vBulletin 3 Public Preview Site

[John]

Discuss away...

[TheComputerGuy]

So does Beta mean its just one step being released instead of Alpha?

[plug]

Im confused.

[JamesUS]

(all will be revealed shortly when the announcement is posted)

[John Round]

Who isn't...

[Freddie Bingham]

The website's url has beta in it but consider the site to be alpha, as the verison number indicates. There will not be a release to download for a bit. What 'bit' means, I don't care to elaborate on and then get lynched when it lapses.

[Freddie Bingham]

Originally posted by John Round
Who isn't... Xiphoid

[Scott MacVicar]

Originally posted by freddie
Xiphoid

lol

[Dotagious]

:D

[JamesUS]

I see c-pr0mpt has also managed to discover the site! Well done Corey ;)

[rockergrrl]

as have I... :)

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by rockergrrl
as have I... :) You had help :p

[rockergrrl]

Who?
Me??
Say Wha??

nah....
*looks around*

[Prince]

What are the differences in vB 3 ?

such as new features, etc?

[Fusion]

Nice timing, lads! See, you waited 'til I was back from the wedding and all. :D

[Floris]

Wee,
it was so cool to browse around the vb3/ dir. All the posts were there, some other stuff *g* and pretty colors. After a few hours things were cleaned up a bit, and then there was the announcement.

It was way cool to be there first. Even before they officially went open. *big grin*

I was (and am) very impressed with their work, and if I wouldn't own vB already, I'd buy it immediatly. Damn!

And then to consider that we will not see the Admin Control Panel for a while :) And many other tweaks and features.

It has paid off to wait, so it will be much more then worth it to wait a bit longer before we can a test/beta on our localhost to learn the future version.

I seriously love to be involved with this by just following and reading up on posts/threads and checking out screens and features and enjoying development.

[hypedave]

Great work, I see new exciting things in it already, totally caught my off guard, and im sure others to

[Chris M]

Whaaaaaa!!!

:D

Satan

[Floris]

Originally posted by hellsatan
Whaaaaaa!!!

:D

Satan
Guess you just have to wait.
At least now you can get used with some updates and features and learn yourself how to browse around the forum. And in a while you will be able to do that all on your own system or web site.

[bigmattyh]

I'm very excited about the new version. I've been building my new site on the vB core engine (somewhat like is done at vB.org), and I was a little concerned that I'd have to re-hack a helluva lot when vB3 comes out, but from the looks of it, the new version will only make my work easier. Wow.

Great work, y'all.

[Kier]

Originally posted by hypedave
Great work, I see new exciting things in it already, totally caught my off guard, and im sure others to ... and you haven't even seen the admin side of things yet :)

[Scott MacVicar]

Originally posted by bigmattyh
I'm very excited about the new version. I've been building my new site on the vB core engine (somewhat like is done at vB.org), and I was a little concerned that I'd have to re-hack a helluva lot when vB3 comes out, but from the looks of it, the new version will only make my work easier. Wow.

Great work, y'all.

Yep using the new admin functions kier added is great, especially the makecells function.

**loves makecells function**

[John Round]

I was actually trying to access the admin login screen but got a forbidden error :mad:

[heretic]

wheeee!!!

[Scott MacVicar]

yep if your accessing it via beta.vbulletin.com you get a forbidden, we all access it from beta.jelsoft.com which it works for but you need to get past the http auth ;)

[Joshua Clinard]

When can we see a preview of the admin cp?

[bpn]

What's the user/pass ?

[Floris]

You can't and you won't for a while.

[ethank]

I can't register there (get a Mysql error) and I can't post this in the VB3 bug report forum... hmmm.

[tubedogg]

Your screen is apparently also not showing forum descriptions...Please use this forum to discuss any bugs/issues in the vBulletin 3. Post new threads in the troubleshooting forum and a moderator will move it to this forum when it is confirmed as a bug.:p

[eva2000]

Originally posted by Kier
... and you haven't even seen the admin side of things yet :) you'll have vB users drooling over their keyboards when they see the admin side :D

[Joshs]

It wont let me register on the preview forums....Says there is a DB error...

[freehtml]

After I log in , I still see the log in box at the index page....

But the "Who's Online" shows that I am already logged in.

[Floris]

Originally posted by eva2000
you'll have vB users drooling over their keyboards when they see the admin side :D I already broke two keyboards yesterday :) When I got in for the first time and saw all those cuties of features and options and colors. And when I replaced the keyboard. And turned on the monitor and saw the site again, and surfed it for an hour or 12

[DirectPixel]

You sure it wasn't you trying to up your pulse by smashing your keyboards?;)

[Joe Gronlund]

I would like to see the moderator dropdown box added to the list of features :)

[Chen]

Originally posted by Asendin
I would like to see the moderator dropdown box added to the list of features :)
Over my dead body...

[Freddie Bingham]

Originally posted by Asendin
I would like to see the moderator dropdown box added to the list of features :) That ugly thing on forumhome? Not going to happen.

[DirectPixel]

Originally posted by freddie
That ugly thing on forumhome? Not going to happen. Use this excuse:

It adds an extra 5 queries per box, times the number of forums you have, multiplied by the number of mods you have.:p;)

[TWTCommish]

Ugly? Compared to a comma-seperated list of links? Bleh. The default "Moderator" column can only be improved, IMO.

[Bad Bunny]

I agree that the layout of the moderator column could use a better presentation, but if it adds more queries as eiSecure suggested, I would hate to see it implimented by default.

[TWTCommish]

I don't see how a dropdown menu would you add more queries...the same data (username, userid) is in use.

[DirectPixel]

Originally posted by Bad Bunny
I agree that the layout of the moderator column could use a better presentation, but if it adds more queries as eiSecure suggested, I would hate to see it implimented by default. lol, I was joking.:p

[Freddie Bingham]

Originally posted by TWTCommish
Ugly? Compared to a comma-seperated list of links? Bleh. The default "Moderator" column can only be improved, IMO. Wouldn't be the first time that we disagreed on something would it?

I don't believe comboboxes should be used to display data. They are for making a choice. You can continue to hack this in if you desire to have it.

[TWTCommish]

Wouldn't be the first time that we disagreed on something would it?
Probably not...though I don't recall many other disagreements offhand.

I don't believe comboboxes should be used to display data. They are for making a choice. You can continue to hack this in if you desire to have it.
I don't desire to have it. However, I don't think the default look is above the "ugly" comment, either. I only dig the drop-downs a tiny bit more. They look, at the very least, more organized.

Personally I'd just zap the column and, perhaps, stick and icon somewhere that would bring up a popup window listing the mods...or something of the sort. A JavaScript alert, perhaps. Just an idea.

[pool]

Where can i find the grand new themes of vbb 3.0

Question about my wishes but how are the facts about the new version?

[DirectPixel]

There are no vB3 styles available. Heck, the product isn't even released yet.

[snyx]

its very pretty boys, but looks more like a well hacked v2 and not the new and long awaited v3 errrr.. guess we will see in time. :p

[Rose]

Very nice. Very very nice. I'm getting lots of runtime errors, but that's okay. Very nice.

*waits anxiously*

I like some of the new features, as well as dislike a few. But all can be customized, right? Definately liking the karma. I'm already in love with the admin cp adn I haven't seen it yet!! 'Cept those few screen shots...... I don't care for the threaded view, but to each his/her own and it's an option. :D

Keep it up, guys, very nice!

[tamarian]

It's really mouth watering with the list of features! I may just add my custom hacks, since the most important hack are now included as features!

But I couldn't see any threaded views? Oops, just founded it as an icon at the bottom of the thread, maybe it should also be added to the top of the thread in thestandard template.....

Well done!!!!!!

[bspiller]

I liek the ablity to be able to set a forum password instead of useing access masks :) I'm gonna lvoe that feature and it will save me a great deal of time!

[Semperfidelis]

From what we can see so far, top effort
Congratulations and thankyou to all the vb devs (and the members) who have contributed.

[MarkB]

I'm very impressed so far, even more so with the list of features John posted today! WOW! Can't wait for more pieces to fall into place over on Jupiter so we can see it more like the finished product will be :)

[JamesUS]

Originally posted by snyx
its very pretty boys, but looks more like a well hacked v2 and not the new and long awaited v3 errrr.. guess we will see in time. :p

At the moment the templates are just that - hacked v2 templates. The v3 templates weren't finished but we wanted to open the beta site as per our timetable so we changed the style and launched anyway. It will look just great with the new templates :)

[snyx]

geez james, I was all back to thinking it would be lacking, but now my curiosity has just increased :p

[indiamike]

Just throwing my two cents in.

I took a look at the board and I liked what I saw, however I noticed that it has a lot more bells and whistles now. It's exciting for me because I am familiar with vbulletin.

However, I would like to remind the creators about the end user, the person visiting a forum for the first time trying to make heads or tails out of how to operate the board and what each button does.

One of the major complaints that I have from people visiting my bulletin board is that it is too difficult to figure out at first.

I would like to see many of the enhancements controllable by the admin, letting him/her decide if the extras are better for their community or not.

Cheers
Mike

[MarkB]

Originally posted by indiamike
I would like to see many of the enhancements controllable by the admin, letting him/her decide if the extras are better for their community or not.


I believe this is already the case, as we'll see when we can get our grubby mitts on our own copies :p

Personally, I'll be throwing all the new features at my users - they like a challenge! :D

[MarkB]

Originally posted by JamesUS


At the moment the templates are just that - hacked v2 templates. The v3 templates weren't finished but we wanted to open the beta site as per our timetable so we changed the style and launched anyway. It will look just great with the new templates :)

Any idea on when the vB3 templates will be public?

[glo]

Can I ask when v3 will be released?

Since i am ready to buy, but dont want to have to do an upgrade from v2!

[JamesUS]

The templates won't be available until (at the earliest) the first public beta that you can download.

I really don't know about a release date for the product. Obviously you can now see that it is well on the way to completion but there is stll lots to do. I would imagine it won't be too long until there is a publicly downloadable beta. However I can't say for the final version.

[glo]

care to give me anyidea of time frame!

I promise i wont hold u to it!

[MarkB]

I'm sure once the new templates are in place, it'll convince anyone remaining who needs convincing that vB3 is a good step forward. Right now it looks like vB 2 with a shedload of hacks, so I'm looking forward to seeing it all in place :cool:

[merk]

well, i could give you a release date they could keep ;)

how about

15January 2005 :p

Just let it run, we are all awaiting it, its a very amazing product, but you just have to wait, i know the feeling of having something almost done (my site took 6 months) with all the users wanting it NOW?!!?!?!

How about all the devs take 2 weeks off and then they will work harder ;p

[slazareth]

how do I view the vB3?

[JamesUS]

http://beta.vbulletin.com/vb3

merk: I hope we'll be able to make a date slightly earlier than that ;)

[merk]

Originally posted by JamesUS
http://beta.vbulletin.com/vb3

merk: I hope we'll be able to make a date slightly earlier than that ;)

At least (hopefully) you wont run past that date! :D

[Steve_S]

Originally posted by glo
care to give me anyidea of time frame!

I promise i wont hold u to it!

Sure :)

About 6 months for the "gold"

Just a guess and that time line is fine with me.

You will probably be able to get your talented fingers on a "RC" a month or two before that.

Like this:

Alpha 1-x
Beta 1-x
RC 1-x
V 3.0 which will probably be followed rather quickly by 3.01

Choose your time line and have fun :)

[Cloughie]

Can we assume karma is available to be turned off in admin?

I seriously think karma is one of the most awfull ideas ever :)

[merk]

Originally posted by Cloughie
Can we assume karma is available to be turned off in admin?

I seriously think karma is one of the most awfull ideas ever :)

This has been confirmed, and from memory it is off by default.

[Cloughie]

wohooo!!! ;)

[Lucrecia]

Will we be able to d/l and use vb3 beta/alpha?

[JamesUS]

You will be able to download the beta version when it is released.

[hacker]

Originally posted by Steve_S


V 3.0 which will probably be followed rather quickly by 3.01


and 3.02, then 3.03 followed by 3.04...... :D

[Reeve of Shinra]

wow, I didn't get to check every thing out but what I've seen so far is pretty damn cool. VB3 has a majority of the features users have requested or have been hacking into thier existing boards. Very nice.

[Arkham]

Originally posted by Cloughie
Can we assume karma is available to be turned off in admin?

I seriously think karma is one of the most awfull ideas ever :)

I don't intend to use it across the board, but I would like to see the option on a by-forum basis.

Unless I'm completely way off base and that could be achieved through template edits...

[SWFans.net]

I am not sure if it has been mentioned or not but after having a look at the beta, I am really liking what I see. Most of the hacks I have implemented appear to have been included by default in the upcoming version, except for one that the nearly 2,000 users at my forums, including me would want in a big way; a database version of “Mark Forum Read” for individual forums.

Keep up the great work team. :)

[Arkham]

Originally posted by SWFans.net
I am not sure if it has been mentioned or not but after having a look at the beta, I am really liking what I see. Most of the hacks I have implemented appear to have been included by default in the upcoming version, except for one that the nearly 2,000 users at my forums, including me would want in a big way; a database version of “Mark Forum Read” for individual forums.

Keep up the great work team. :)

Truly incredible work.

[Yuber]

I like it a lot. I hope we can get our own copies of vb3 alpha very soon

[glo]

can we simply use the beta version and not install the other version???

[Steve Machol]

When beta is released publicly it will be available to all licensed customers. If a new customer wants to start out with a beta version then that is up to him or her.

[Yuber]

By chance will it be possible to upgrade from 2.2.6 or will it have to be a new installation? Either way I'll use vb3 beta/alpha, just wondering.

[Mike Sullivan]

Assuming we have an upgrade script available for the first public release (we should; we had no problem doing this with 2.0), then you'll be able to upgrade from 2.2.x to 3.0. Otherwise, you'd have to do a new installation, but I couldn't see that being the case for long. The upgrade script is pretty important. :)

(Note: all that about not having an upgrade is just "what if". I don't see that being the case at all.)

[Yuber]

I hope we can get a copy of vb3 beta/alpha soon.

[brianoneill]

In the new version is there any plans to support the displaying of flash in posts??

[Ian]

Originally posted by brianoneill
In the new version is there any plans to support the displaying of flash in posts?? Can't vB already do that in version 2.x.x with adding vB code?

[brianoneill]

Originally posted by Ian
Can't vB already do that in version 2.x.x with adding vB code?

NOPE, only images.

[DirectPixel]

You can already add in Flash, if you modify your BBCode.

Anyways, it's not going to be natively supported, as it poses more of a security risk than enabling HTML.

[vadimr]

What's the url to the vb3?
Umm I can't seem to find it.

[MUG]

http://beta.vbulletin.com/vb3/

[Yuber]

Has there been any estimations on when we can have a copy of vb3 beta?

[VAN]

Sheesh. vB3 is will be a nightmare of confusion for my users. I'm upgrading to 2.2.7 asap and staying with that one till v3 improves.

[Floris]

Originally posted by Tony DiMera
Has there been any estimations on when we can have a copy of vb3 beta?
When there is one, it will be in the announcement, currently the announcement says there is no downloadable copy. Since this is an alpha release, expect a public beta within a few months, after that more beta's and release candidates and then the gold (stable) final version. If that will be this year, personally I doubt it, but I do hope it. It is all guessing, ..

For the post above me: Sure stay with 2.2.7, it IS the latest stable release. And it will be a while untill 3.x will be released anyway, as a stable release. Besides that, the alpha public preview site you see is just the vb2 skin with a bunch of features enabled, and they are worked on real time and things WILL improve. Eventually you won't want anything else but vb3.
vB3 can be setup just like your vB2.x site. So it will not be confusing to your users.

[JamesUS]

The copy running on the beta site has every option enabled for testing purposes. Many options will ship as off by default, so it won't be nearly as confusing and complicated for your users. Also, Kier is working on a smart interface/GUI to make it as simple as possible for users, both novice and expert.

[LifeIsEfil]

how do i know what my customer # is cause i wanna download vbulletin but it asks about the customer # and pw.....................i want to know how do i get in?

[MUG]

You have to buy it... http://www.vbulletin.com/order.php

[LifeIsEfil]

some1 said u dont have to buy the v bulletin

[Chen]

some1 was wrong. :)

[Aragon]

or some1 is a vB pirate :eek:

[Arkham]

Originally posted by Aragon
or some1 is a vB pirate :eek:

Damn knuckletypers. ;)

[Chen]

Originally posted by Arkham
Damn knuckletypers. ;)
I thought some1 was a nickname. :eek:

[Arkham]

Originally posted by FireFly
I thought some1 was a nickname. :eek:

I can think of a better one...

[SamRz]

Can we get the beta yet? I'd love to try this, but where do we get it(if licensed owner)?

[Cary]

vB3 is not yet available for download. Keep checking the annoucements forum for updates. :)

[SamRz]

darn I was hoping....thanks for the quick reply

[Roody]

am i missing something, VB3's beta site isnt allowing me to sign in with my username and password, and yes I am entering it correctly.

[Scott MacVicar]

you have to register again.

[Roody]

thanks for the info. I do have another question regarding VB3. Will PM Popups be listed as Yes by default? oh and also, there is a hack that shows the amount of threads and posts since a person's last visit, will this be a part of VB3 also?

[airco]

you have to register on the beta site :)

[ccd1]

Freddie's site just upgraded to Version 3 Alpha 2 if anyone wants to see that.

[Lucas]

It will rule! :D

[DannyITR]

I've been waiting 2 months now. When can we download VB3???

[DirectPixel]

Originally posted by DannyITR
I've been waiting 2 months now. When can we download VB3??? It's not released yet.

[Yuber]

Originally posted by baragon0
Freddie's site just upgraded to Version 3 Alpha 2 if anyone wants to see that.

It is kickass.

[BustaCap]

It looks clutered beyond belief to me. I hope the interace gets an overhaul, my users are already confused with VB2.x

[Freddie Bingham]

Originally posted by BustaCap
It looks clutered beyond belief to me. I hope the interace gets an overhaul, my users are already confused with VB2.x My users are mostly women who don't use computers a lot and they don't have any problems with my vb2 forum and no one has complained about the cobbled together vb3 style that I am currently using.

[Paul]

Freddie,

The link with the referral id in your profile seems to be causing a bit of an error. ;)

Fatal error: Cannot pass parameter 2 by reference in /home/chin/public_html/forums/global.php on line 84

[DannyITR]

Ok, so when is the release date? We're sitting in the dark here!

[Bad Bunny]

There is no release date, or they would give a release date.
Maybe asking "How far along is development?" would be a question more likely to get a resonable answer.

If they had a date set, they would announce it, and then you wouldn't need to ask.;)

[Roody]

I get this "Fatal error: Cannot pass parameter 2 by reference in /home/chin/public_html/forums/global.php on line 84" when I try to access your site Freddie, by clicking on the www, under your name.

[Bad Bunny]

Originally posted by LoveShack
Freddie,

The link with the referral id in your profile seems to be causing a bit of an error. ;) [/QUOTE]
Roody
I get this "Fatal error: Cannot pass parameter 2 by reference in /home/chin/public_html/forums/global.php on line 84" when I try to access your site Freddie, by clicking on the www, under your name.

[Maverick1236]

I see you removed the link to the beta forum from the announcements section...

Is VB3 beta ready to go?:D

[Yuber]

Originally posted by Maverick1236
I see you removed the link to the beta forum from the announcements section...

Is VB3 beta ready to go?:D

I wish it was. The board is it vBulletin 3 Alpha 2

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by Maverick1236
I see you removed the link to the beta forum from the announcements section...We did?

[Steve Machol]

Originally posted by Maverick1236
I see you removed the link to the beta forum from the announcements section... It's where it's always been:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51821

[hypedave]

Originally posted by Maverick1236
I see you removed the link to the beta forum from the announcements section...

Is VB3 beta ready to go?:D


User Control Panel ---> Edit Options ---> Default Thread View:

[CyberMoa]

Nice, very nice .... well that's a few weekends already booked. Waiting patiently for John to put down the wine glass turn off the rugby and get this thing out to public release.

[N9ne]

Originally posted by CyberMoa
Nice, very nice .... well that's a few weekends already booked. Waiting patiently for John to put down the wine glass turn off the rugby and get this thing out to public release. What if he's more of a football person :p

[Locust99]

I must say... i LOVE the new way of posting...

all the WYSIWYG box is the coolest ever.

[Logician]

FYI about the conversion of 2.2.x to 3.x:

Either the conversion script or the new vb3 code is not friendly with Non-English chars. Non-english chars. in my old private messages have been ruined when you upgraded vbulletin.com to vb3. I was able to view them without any problems in vb.2.2.x. This would be a bad sign for upgrading of non-english boards as you might guess so I thought you would want to check it out.

I dont have a subscription in this thread so contact me via email or PM if you need to contact me about the issue. Thx..

Also it would be nice to have a special thread about the upgrade of vbulletin.com to vb3 so that we can post bugs etc. into that thread instead of this one.

Regards,
Logician

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by Logician
Also it would be nice to have a special thread about the upgrade of vbulletin.com to vb3 so that we can post bugs etc. into that thread instead of this one.Bugs should be posted in vB3 Troubleshooting and will be moved to the bugs forum once verified, as with all other versions.

[h88]

There are two things that i would really appreciate if any developer in vBulletin can implement them before releasing the final version:

-Favorite Thread(I used to subscribe to each thread to keep track under my Control Panel, but the no. of email i used to recieve were really huge).

-When i used to subscribe to a specific forum, i would'nt get a mail that someone had created a new thread.

I hope u consider thouse before releasing the final version.

yours,
h88

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by h88
There are two things that i would really appreciate if any developer in vBulletin can implement them before releasing the final version:

-Favorite Thread(I used to subscribe to each thread to keep track under my Control Panel, but the no. of email i used to recieve were really huge).

-When i used to subscribe to a specific forum, i would'nt get a mail that someone had created a new thread.

I hope u consider thouse before releasing the final version.

yours,
h88 1) is already done

2) probably isn't going to be implemented in vB3.0.

[h88]

Originally posted by tubedogg
2) probably isn't going to be implemented in vB3.0.

Actully, this is the most important one. Please Try, and tell me how it goes.

yous,
h88

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by h88
Actully, this is the most important one. Please Try, and tell me how it goes.

yous,
h88 Now that I said, it is actually already implemented too.

[h88]

That is really cool, I'll be buying this package as soon as it would be available! :)

[Floris]

Originally posted by tubedogg
Now that I said, it is actually already implemented too. Wfew!
You got me scared there for a moment.
Heheheheh.

Glad to see it IS implemented :)

[Attrox]

Well, the beta version seems to be up and running now. :) I'm quite impressed...

[Yuber]

Any idea on when you will release this beta version?

[Cary]

Originally posted by Zehlek
Any idea on when you will release this beta version? There isn't a release date. There will probably be a private beta in a couple weeks if I remember correctly.

[Floris]

Originally posted by Cary
There isn't a release date. There will probably be a private beta in a couple weeks if I remember correctly.

To me, a private beta is the version I see here, open to the public, but not av. for download.

To me, the public beta is the version that is av. through the member area for download.

So, what does private beta mean for you?

[Freddie Bingham]

Originally posted by xiphoid
To me, a private beta is the version I see here, open to the public, but not av. for download.

To me, the public beta is the version that is av. through the member area for download.

So, what does private beta mean for you? Private beta means we pick sites to offer the beta to. This does not mean asking us to be a site. We will send all requests directly to /dev/null.

[Floris]

Originally posted by freddie
Private beta means we pick sites to offer the beta to. This does not mean asking us to be a site. We will send all requests directly to /dev/null. Thank you for explaining.

[Erwin]

Originally posted by freddie
Private beta means we pick sites to offer the beta to. This does not mean asking us to be a site. We will send all requests directly to /dev/null. LOL!!! /dev/null??? Not even given the dignity of /temp??? Just in case you change your mind? ;)

[sebe]

Originally posted by freddie
Private beta means we pick sites to offer the beta to. This does not mean asking us to be a site. We will send all requests directly to /dev/null.

so is this random, or you hand select the sites? just curious ..

[DirectPixel]

Originally posted by seby
so is this random, or you hand select the sites? just curious .. *cough*

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/modcp/

[okrogius]

Originally posted by DirectPixel
*cough*

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/modcp/ Stop stealing my ideas/discoveries!

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by seby
so is this random, or you hand select the sites? just curious .. Sites are hand-selected.

[Floris]

Originally posted by Codename49
Stop stealing my ideas/discoveries! If that was your big discovery - then you missed a thread where they mentioned the renaming of the admin/mod dirs :)

[Borsti]

Looks great!!! I think I´ll now wait for v3 before switching my DCForum Forum to vB... would be too much for my people to do two changes in a short time. And this would also help to scatter their concerns on the lack of threaded-(mix)view. Gives me also more time to optimize the layout and import stuff.

Can´t wait to see the announcement :D

Borsti

[Beramode]

Its very good, my only complaint is that it looks very complicated and too difficult to use for normal web users.

[Floris]

I guess that is just because it has a default style and design with certain stuff turned on/off or whatever.

Remember, it is a beta and I bet the final version can be altered to everybody's liking. All features can be turned on and off by the administrator. So to start with, everybody can probably make it look like the old version 2.x

[okrogius]

Originally posted by xiphoid
If that was your big discovery - then you missed a thread where they mentioned the renaming of the admin/mod dirs :) I was actually the one who suggested the exact names of modcp and admincp in that thread. :)

[Maverick1236]

you HAND select them?????????

well excuse me, but we are ALL paying customers here...

so why do certain sites get to test before the rest of us???

do they pay more???


this is NOT fair-we should ALL be given this opportunity at the same time!

.....how unprofessional...if you were gonna do that-than you shouldnt have stated it publicly...sheesh:mad:

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by Maverick1236
you HAND select them?????????

well excuse me, but we are ALL paying customers here...

so why do certain sites get to test before the rest of us???

do they pay more???


this is NOT fair-we should ALL be given this opportunity at the same time!

.....how unprofessional...if you were gonna do that-than you shouldnt have stated it publicly...sheesh:mad: You paid for a stable copy of vBulletin. You did not pay for the ability to use beta software. That is a perk. No one ever promised you could use beta software. It has been stated a number of times that there would be a private beta period where a number of hand-selected sites would have vB3 installed to test it.

Sites are selected based on a number of factors - number of posts, number of members, avg online users - to see how vB3 handles under load. You will be able to try vB3 when it becomes available for public beta.

[Martyjp]

Got no problems with some sites getting vb3 before me. I want a stable version and will not be upgrading to vb3 until it goes gold, even then will probably wait a few weeks. Yes it would be nice to get my hands on the beta version for a devboard, got over 100 styles and 15 templates that will need to be looked at and new buttons created, then there is permissions to look at and deciding what features I want enabled and which ones I wont be using, so yes beta version asap please. But if Jelsoft release a public beta after only testing it on their servers then they are going to be asking for trouble, and going to be swammped with support tickets, best just to let a select few have it get all the bugs out of the way so that when a public beta is released its as bug free as possible.

As for not stating publicly that there would be a private testing phase, makes sense that they do. After all wont be too long before word gets out that someone was running vb3 then people would moan that some sites had it, best to be open from the start :)

[DirectPixel]

Originally posted by Martyjp
Got no problems with some sites getting vb3 before me. I want a stable version and will not be upgrading to vb3 until it goes gold, even then will probably wait a few weeks. Yes it would be nice to get my hands on the beta version for a devboard, got over 100 styles and 15 templates that will need to be looked at and new buttons created, then there is permissions to look at and deciding what features I want enabled and which ones I wont be using, so yes beta version asap please. But if Jelsoft release a public beta after only testing it on their servers then they are going to be asking for trouble, and going to be swammped with support tickets, best just to let a select few have it get all the bugs out of the way so that when a public beta is released its as bug free as possible.

As for not stating publicly that there would be a private testing phase, makes sense that they do. After all wont be too long before word gets out that someone was running vb3 then people would moan that some sites had it, best to be open from the start :) Also, I believe that Kier's forum has already switched to vB3.:)

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by DirectPixel
Also, I believe that Kier's forum has already switched to vB3.:) So has Freddie's. I'm trying to work up the courage to do mine ;) :p

[DirectPixel]

Originally posted by tubedogg
So has Freddie's. I'm trying to work up the courage to do mine ;) :p If you don't have the courage, I can take your place.:)

[Chen]

Originally posted by tubedogg
So has Freddie's. I'm trying to work up the courage to do mine ;) :p You mean you're going to upgrade vB.org? Ohh, that's kind of you!

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by Chen
You mean you're going to upgrade vB.org? Ohh, that's kind of you! Ha. Ha. Ha.


(and 10)

[Chen]

Originally posted by tubedogg
Ha. Ha. Ha.


(and 10) No 10. ;)

[JamesUS]

Originally posted by Chen
You mean you're going to upgrade vB.org? Ohh, that's kind of you! LOL

I have a queue of boards to upgrade when it is released. 5 of my regular clients have already told me they want it done shortly after release ;) Looks like I'll be busy that week. One of them is so heavily hacked it will take me all day.

My boards are really rather small so I haven't bothered to upgrade yet. I might upgrade my smallest one though ;) (see signature).

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by JamesUS
LOL

I have a queue of boards to upgrade when it is released. 5 of my regular clients have already told me they want it done shortly after release ;) Looks like I'll be busy that week. One of them is so heavily hacked it will take me all day.

My boards are really rather small so I haven't bothered to upgrade yet. I might upgrade my smallest one though ;) (see signature). Gee, James, the forum link in the header at SL doesn't go anywhere. ;)

[DirectPixel]

Originally posted by tubedogg
Gee, James, the forum link in the header at SL doesn't go anywhere. ;) http://www.sidelinks.com/forum/

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by DirectPixel
http://www.sidelinks.com/forum/ Yeah I know, I'm just teasing - I work on SL with him. :)

[Borsti]

Originally posted by xiphoid
I guess that is just because it has a default style and design with certain stuff turned on/off or whatever.

Remember, it is a beta and I bet the final version can be altered to everybody's liking. All features can be turned on and off by the administrator. So to start with, everybody can probably make it look like the old version 2.x

That´s also my opinion that this will be done with styles. It looks a bit cut up in the current design with all the buttons on top and the table on top and bottom of a thread (Quick reply, Similar Threads, Email & Print buttons...) Even in 1280x1024 it looks pretty filled up. There could be some optimizations in terms of better "Desktop space usage". I´m sure vB newbies will be a bit shocked with all those buttons and options... (all IMHO)

Lars

[Xenon]

Originally posted by Borsti
That´s also my opinion that this will be done with styles. It looks a bit cut up in the current design with all the buttons on top and the table on top and bottom of a thread (Quick reply, Similar Threads, Email & Print buttons...) Even in 1280x1024 it looks pretty filled up. There could be some optimizations in terms of better "Desktop space usage". I´m sure vB newbies will be a bit shocked with all those buttons and options... (all IMHO)

Lars style not finalstyle not finalstyle not finalstyle not finalstyle not finalstyle not finalstyle not finalstyle not finalstyle not final :D

Recht host! :)
We'll see how it'll look when the new style will be revealed

[Floris]

Bweah! This thread is getting more fun to read each time I check up on new posts :D :D


But seriously. When do people start to understand that there are several type of releases prior to a public one?

And once it goes public, it will be available to you, and you, and you, and everybody else. This will obviously start with the beta that seems to be stable enough for the big audience. From this point on not only the developers get a chance to find out bugs they didn't find yet, but also the members to try it out on their own servers and test upgrading and other enjoyments and see how it performs etc.


Because we pay for this software, doesn't mean we can get 100% access to all the forums on this web site, or the back-end - private laptops with elite Kier-code and access to information or admin control panels or functions / source codes etc. There is totally no use for developers to provide their thousends of members some software that has only proven to be stable on a few servers under certain setups and circomstances (sorry for bad english) and getting a thousend angry members saying the software is crap because they run into error after error because it hasn't been tested properly for functionality or security or whatever else you can come up to.

Ofcourse we would LOVE to get our hands on something that we can't get. This is with everything in life. And as well me as others just have to sit out and have them take their time to finalize their code to release a public beta / etc untill there is a release candidate that can be considered 'seriously' (at least to me) before they hit gold.

There are enough companies in the world that doesn't even release their beta's and RC's ..

Said that
someone hook me up with a copy

[DirectPixel]

Originally posted by xiphoid
Bweah! This thread is getting more fun to read each time I check up on new posts :D :D


But seriously. When do people start to understand that there are several type of releases prior to a public one?

And once it goes public, it will be available to you, and you, and you, and everybody else. This will obviously start with the beta that seems to be stable enough for the big audience. From this point on not only the developers get a chance to find out bugs they didn't find yet, but also the members to try it out on their own servers and test upgrading and other enjoyments and see how it performs etc.


Because we pay for this software, doesn't mean we can get 100% access to all the forums on this web site, or the back-end - private laptops with elite Kier-code and access to information or admin control panels or functions / source codes etc. There is totally no use for developers to provide their thousends of members some software that has only proven to be stable on a few servers under certain setups and circomstances (sorry for bad english) and getting a thousend angry members saying the software is crap because they run into error after error because it hasn't been tested properly for functionality or security or whatever else you can come up to.

Ofcourse we would LOVE to get our hands on something that we can't get. This is with everything in life. And as well me as others just have to sit out and have them take their time to finalize their code to release a public beta / etc untill there is a release candidate that can be considered 'seriously' (at least to me) before they hit gold.

There are enough companies in the world that doesn't even release their beta's and RC's ..

Said that
someone hook me up with a copy Ya know, you would make an awsome humor column writer, xiphoid.:)

Articles like that need to be printed on the last page of ever magazine.

[Floris]

Originally posted by DirectPixel
Ya know, you would make an awsome humor column writer, xiphoid.:)

Articles like that need to be printed on the last page of ever magazine. Just start sending those checks my way and I will start writing.

[Steve_C]

I thought the "Welcome Panel" hack was going to be added to vb3?

[Cary]

Originally posted by SirSteve
I thought the "Welcome Panel" hack was going to be added to vb3? I never heard of such a thing. Where did you hear that?

[Steve_C]

Originally posted by Cary
I never heard of such a thing. Where did you hear that?

I believe it was in the vb3 suggestions somewhere. It's also the #2 most popular hack on vb org so I was hoping it would be standard.

[thewolrab]

Wow, vb3 beta looks cool. Only thing I don't care for is the new postbit layout... (the way everything is centered)..Well I shouldn't say I don't like it, more that I'm just not used to it... Looks good.

[Cary]

Originally posted by MXP-50
Wow, vb3 beta looks cool. Only thing I don't care for is the new postbit layout... (the way everything is centered)..Well I shouldn't say I don't like it, more that I'm just not used to it... Looks good.

As it has been said uncountable times, this is not the final style. You probably won't see it until when the final version is released.

[Wayne Luke]

Originally posted by SirSteve
I believe it was in the vb3 suggestions somewhere. It's also the #2 most popular hack on vb org so I was hoping it would be standard. There is a welcome panel header of sorts on every page in vBulletin 3.0. It isn't the same as the welcome panel hack that you refer to but you can make it fit your needs with template edits.

[TheEDIGuy]

Great job on moving this to 3.0, team! This will give some of us a good chance to evaluate it before it goes live. And I really like the WYSIWYG interface, even on the Quick Reply box.

[tamarian]

Is there a demo of the admin panel?

[Chen]

Originally posted by tamarian
Is there a demo of the admin panel? Not yet.

[Floris]

http://beta.total-anime.com/index.php?s=&styleid=11

[Yuber]

Originally posted by xiphoid
http://beta.total-anime.com/index.php?s=&styleid=11 Who's board is that?

[Floris]

Originally posted by Zehlek
Who's board is that? Scott's

[h88]

Originally posted by xiphoid
Scott's

Ah, ur beta-testing the third version in other websites!

[Yuber]

Originally posted by xiphoid
Scott's Thanks

[Bad Bunny]

Yes, they hand select sites to test it out. No use asking, as this has already been covered.

Just sit tight. Before you know it, vB3 will be out, and you will be waiting anxiously for the next big thing. :)

[vBR]

OK

I don't know if any of this has been asked yet so I'm gonn'a ask anyway.

There are a few things I would like to see in V3
Will there be...

1) Mods suspend/ban groups other then registered?
2) Dif levels of mods suspend/ban groups lower than self?
3) Mods restore users they themselves suspended/banned?
4) Admin#1 set specific admin(s) or mod(s) who can read PMs? (dbmaster can already go through the db but this is too longwinded.)
5) User request forgotten password returns but not resets password?
6) Built-in spell check? (I really need this!!!)
7) Sensor replace words with random characters or random 'Naughty Naughty' taunt?

...and many more I cant think of right now

[Floris]

Originally posted by <v>
OK

I don't know if any of this has been asked yet so I'm gonn'a ask anyway.

There are a few things I would like to see in V3
Will there be...

1) Mods suspend/ban groups other then registered?
2) Dif levels of mods suspend/ban groups lower than self?
3) Mods restore users they themselves suspended/banned?
4) Admin#1 set specific admin(s) or mod(s) who can read PMs? (dbmaster can already go through the db but this is too longwinded.)
5) User request forgotten password returns but not resets password?
6) Built-in spell check? (I really need this!!!)
7) Sensor replace words with random characters or random 'Naughty Naughty' taunt?

...and many more I cant think of right now

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=51821

Second/third post.

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by Bad Bunny
Yes, they hand select sites to test it out. No use asking, as this has already been covered.

Just sit tight. Before you know it, vB3 will be out, and you will be waiting anxiously for the next big thing. :) Actually, we haven't quite reached the hand-select stage yet. It's only on mods/devs sites for now.

[DirectPixel]

Originally posted by tubedogg
Actually, we haven't quite reached the hand-select stage yet. It's only on mods/devs sites for now. Like I said, Kevin, since you're too afraid to test it on your site, let me use it on mine!:p

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by DirectPixel
Like I said, Kevin, since you're too afraid to test it on your site, let me use it on mine!:p LOL nice try. ;)

I may upgrade my site over this long weekend, we'll see.

[[EH]-Hunters]

need help

[Unknown Warrior]

lol@everyone... i just want to know when this will be released. i want it for me site.

[h88]

LOL, i just can't wait for it, i check the boards every 30 min, so i know if there is some new info. Or even release, lol. :D

[tamarian]

Originally posted by Chen
Not yet.

Well, since the beta site has been shutdown, due to vB3 beta 1 becoming the official vBulletin.com software, why not make the old beta site a test/dummy db to preview the admin panel functionality?

[tamarian]

Originally posted by tamarian
Well, since the beta site has been shutdown, due to vB3 beta 1 becoming the official vBulletin.com software, why not make the old beta site a test/dummy db to preview the admin panel functionality?

Just noticed, since I don't have a signature, the postbit bottuns are too close the last line of my messages, with no spacing.

[Steve Machol]

Nice try, but it ain't gonna happen. :)

[Steve_C]

What new banning features have been added? Able to leave notes about banned users? * Timed bans * (oh please say yes to this one)? Banned users don't received subscription e-mails?

[vBR]

Originally posted by <v>
OK

I don't know if any of this has been asked yet so I'm gonn'a ask anyway.

There are a few things I would like to see in V3
Will there be...

1) Mods suspend/ban groups other then registered?
2) Dif levels of mods suspend/ban groups lower than self?
3) Mods restore users they themselves suspended/banned?
4) Admin#1 set specific admin(s) or mod(s) who can read PMs? (dbmaster can already go through the db but this is too longwinded.)
5) User request forgotten password returns but not resets password?
6) Built-in spell check? (I really need this!!!)
7) Sensor replace words with random characters or random 'Naughty Naughty' taunt?

...and many more I cant think of right now
Originally posted by xiphoid
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=51821

Second/third post.

Dang!
I can't see any of those points in that list.
Any Devs care to comment?
Thanks

[Gohan]

3.0 Alpha (beta or not beta, doesnt matter) is just super great!

I can't awaiting :p

[dwh]

MD5 password by javascript before it is sent to the server

What does this mean?

[DirectPixel]

Originally posted by dwh
What does this mean? This means that your passwords are not transmitted from your computer to the server in plaintext.

Instead, they have been hashed so that nobody will see what your real password is.

[Xenon]

Originally posted by DirectPixel
This means that your passwords are not transmitted from your computer to the server in plaintext.

Instead, they have been hashed so that nobody will see what your real password is. hmm, what if s/o have javascript disabled?
can he use vb then anymore???

i think there is to much javascript in new vb... :(

[DirectPixel]

Originally posted by Xenon
hmm, what if s/o have javascript disabled?
can he use vb then anymore???

i think there is to much javascript in new vb... :( If the password sent to it is not hashed, then the script will simply rehash it, like what it does currently in vB 2.2.x.

[Mephisteus]

Originally posted by tamarian
Well, since the beta site has been shutdown, due to vB3 beta 1 becoming the official vBulletin.com software, why not make the old beta site a test/dummy db to preview the admin panel functionality?

This is an idea :), on wich I agree, why not?

[dwh]

Thanks, I see. Happy Thanksgiving!

[PiotrasG]

very nice cant wait

[TetraPack]

I would like a vB :D

Than i buy the vB 3 - if its released.

The Prices will be the same :))

tetra

[JamesUS]

Originally posted by tamarian
Well, since the beta site has been shutdown, due to vB3 beta 1 becoming the official vBulletin.com software, why not make the old beta site a test/dummy db to preview the admin panel functionality? We (staff) are still using the beta site to develop and test on. We can't make live code changes to this board as they need to be tested on the beta forum first. It has simply been closed to the public.

[Omega Prime]

All I know is VB3 is gonna be awesome :cool:. I can wait for the final release, since I'd rather have a stable version of VB3 than a buggy beta anyday :p. Great job guys :D

[snoopy2]

I hope you guys fixed up the timezone problems (timeoffset), this is currently a massive flaw in vbulletin.

[JamesUS]

Originally posted by snoopy2
I hope you guys fixed up the timezone problems (timeoffset), this is currently a massive flaw in vbulletin. What time zone problems? The only thing wrong with the previous system was that it did not cater for Daylight Savings Time, which vB 3 does. However, there was nothing fundamentally 'wrong' with the previous system.

[snoopy2]

Originally posted by JamesUS
What time zone problems? The only thing wrong with the previous system was that it did not cater for Daylight Savings Time, which vB 3 does. However, there was nothing fundamentally 'wrong' with the previous system.

The problem is that the time offset only goes to +12 hrs, so anyone running boards in Australia, New zealand etc using US hosts isn't going to be able to get the time displayed correctly (as they will need +13 +14 or +15 hrs). There has been a few threads about it in the past.

[vBR]

Originally posted by snoopy2
The problem is that the time offset only goes to +12 hrs, so anyone running boards in Australia, New zealand etc using US hosts isn't going to be able to get the time displayed correctly (as they will need +13 +14 or +15 hrs). There has been a few threads about it in the past.

Now I thought that all offsets worked from GMT.
If the server is not in the UK e.g. USA then does the server not need to set it's own offset e.g. -5hrs to compensate for this?

[snoopy2]

Originally posted by <v>
Now I thought that all offsets worked from GMT.
If the server is not in the UK e.g. USA then does the server not need to set it's own offset e.g. -5hrs to compensate for this?

the problem is if you are using shared hosting it isn't possible to do.

[plattopus]

Originally posted by snoopy2
The problem is that the time offset only goes to +12 hrs, so anyone running boards in Australia, New zealand etc using US hosts isn't going to be able to get the time displayed correctly (as they will need +13 +14 or +15 hrs). There has been a few threads about it in the past. The East Coast of Australia is +10...

[Gohan]

Originally posted by snoopy2
The problem is that the time offset only goes to +12 hrs, so anyone running boards in Australia, New zealand etc using US hosts isn't going to be able to get the time displayed correctly (as they will need +13 +14 or +15 hrs). There has been a few threads about it in the past.

+13, +14 and +15 just nonsense...

-12 GMT
-11 GMT
-10 GMT
-9 GMT
-8 GMT = Wester America
-7 GMT
-6 GMT = Middel America
-5 GMT
-4 GMT = Easter America
-3 GMT
-2 GMT
-1 GMT = Iceland
0 GMT = UK London
+1 GMT = Wester European
+2 GMT = Easter European
+3 GMT
+4 GMT
+5 GMT
+6 GMT
+7 GMT
+8 GMT
+9 GMT
+10 GMT = Easter Australia
+11 GMT
+12 GMT

that just correct.. (i don't know exalty timezone each country ;))

[Hyndsy]

I had the same issue....

Originally posted by Roody
am i missing something, VB3's beta site isnt allowing me to sign in with my username and password, and yes I am entering it correctly.

[Steve Machol]

The beta forums are closed.

[Hyndsy]

awwwwwww crap LOL I suck LOL

I saw some of the screenshots and am extremely impressed. Will take a bit getting used to all of the eye candy, but its alright with me :)

Originally posted by Steve Machol
The beta forums are closed.

[Steve Machol]

This site is running the vB3 beta so it's no longer necessary to have a separate site running this.

[snoopy2]

Originally posted by Gohan
+13, +14 and +15 just nonsense...


-4 GMT = Easter America
..............

+10 GMT = Easter Australia


that just correct.. (i don't know exalty timezone each country ;))

like I posted above anyone using server space in the US (which is set to US time) with a board directed for Australian/NZ users is going to need an offset of +13, +14 or +15 to display the correct time is Australia.

eg

-4 to +10 = +14 hours offset
+10 would only work for australian forums if the server was set to GMT time (eg uk based servers)

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by snoopy2
like I posted above anyone using server space in the US (which is set to US time) with a board directed for Australian/NZ users is going to need an offset of +13, +14 or +15 to display the correct time is Australia.

eg

-4 to +10 = +14 hours offset
+10 would only work for australian forums if the server was set to GMT time (eg uk based servers) No...you set the ACP option to -4 and your personal option to +10, and the time shows correctly.

[vBR]

Originally posted by tubedogg
No...you set the ACP option to -4 and your personal option to +10, and the time shows correctly.


That's what I was trying to say.
Each vB's own offset must be set to correct this.
A simple setting for Admins to change.

I really don't see how this has ever been a problem :confused:

[Kapil]

Hello, as anyone ever on the internet I'm a regular vBulletin user and I've made several bulletin boards of my own. This is why I've come here both to praise the team on the current vBulletin build (I really like the wysiwyg editor) and to ask, what structural differences does vb2 have with vb3? Surely, looking at it on the surface, it's virtually the exact same thing with some changes that merit a small version change but not a major number change (2 to 3)... So, is it redesigned to be faster, is it optimized, does it have a different db structure, or is it simply a version change to make it appear new and cool? Cause I think (correct me if I'm wrong - I really don't want to appear rude) that vb3 is vb2 with wysiwyg and nice cell shady things :)

[Wayne Luke]

Maybe this small list of improvements will help you understand what has changed. Mind you it doesn't include everything on it yet.

Originally posted by John
Scott Molinari has very kindly compiled a full features list from our completed todo list. This is by no means exhaustive, and should not be regarded as perfectly accurate: not everything was recorded in the todo and some things were changed too.

Added Features:

--to the user interface

General Quick registration system...username, password, email and any required custom fields and timezone Pop-up auto-refreshing buddylist with ICQ-style alerts when new buddies come online. You'll find a link in the temp buttons top right in the nav bar. Show the title of the last posted to thread for each forum on index.php Subscription to Threads/Forum without receiving e-mails Favorite threads - you don't get email from these either. User rating - Karma User ranking Password break-in watches -- too many failed attempts warning with a preset wait after too many failures. Threaded view Password protected forums Similar threads display Send an email "thanks for registering and welcome to .." on user registration (welcome email) Validity check for homepages Search engine friendly archive of open forums Happy b'day emails Much improved calander system (too many changes to mention) hit counter on announcements Digests: new posts/threads in selected forums daily/weekly/monthly "excerpt of message:" are now in the new reply email notifications 'report post to mod' sends anonymous copy to the original poster of the message Restyled FAQ section now looks similar to a forum
Posting WYSIWYG Editor for major text input fields (IE 5.5+Only) Minimum number of characters in post Insert smilie/vB code where cursor is (IE 5+ Only) Preview on edit Ability to add attachment when editing a post instead of just when creating Reason for editing Reason for deleting(for admins and mods)

User CP - Profile User Pictures - user can upload a personal picture. This picture is shown in the profile of the user. Completely revamped PM system (currently in work) Longer signature field with optional limit
Search Get daily for just one category Search only in subscribed forums A list of ignored words or words used in a search are added to the results page Option to find only started by 'username' Display matching forums in results Support for searching custom profile fields Search for exact username (e.g. turn off wildcards)
Polls Option for users to see who voted for which option (public vote)
<LI>When you vote your name is highlighted when viewing results <LI>Poll results ordered by most to less voted <LI>Ability to post a poll AFTER a thread had started

--to the admin interface

General New admin cp front end Language Manager and vB Language packs (in work) Context sensitive help Improved attachment system. Statistics, Attachment types editing. Ability to delete old attachments. Ability to limit users to X number of bytes in total attachments. Option to "expire" attachments in CP. New FAQ System User ranking and karma admin New settings manager Help topics manager for the context sensitive help vBCode descriptions in the "What are vBCodes" link are now the actual descriptions in the database. No more editing the template. Add options to pick which groups appear on the memberlist, birthdays, etc Categories for Avatars and Smilies Ability to restrict "view new" to certain forums and groups of forums. Admins are exempt from the custom avatar post limit A "forum" can be just a link to something or somewhere else New merge/split/delete posts system A more complete set of subscription options for daily/weekly/on new posts updates, for forum, thread and board.
Utilities Admin can run REPAIR and OPTIMIZE on tables as a group or singularly (using mysql 3.23+) An SQL box in the admin section for executing general queries vBcron system Diagnostic tests for testing system compatibility and settings
User administration Admin editing of User's Avatar is more user friendly. Additional user profile fields - you can now add profile fields which can have either a single line text box, multi line text box, single selection radio buttons, single selection menu, multiple selection menu, or multiple selection checkboxs. Add user option in the admin CP to change the user's referrer Allow users to change usergroups automatically based on postcount Option to merge user accounts Search members based on custom profile field Email members based on custom profile field User notes -- A field for the admin to keep notes on the user Admin can designate moderators who can themselves set forum passwords. Place user under moderation Extended Moderator Activity Logging Add usergroup with permissions initially set as set for another group Improved email address ban Signature length control Resend for registration confirmation emails
Styles Completely revamped Style system You can place $post[postcount] in your postbit template to see each posts position in the thread Conditionals in templates. Also called vB Conditionals, these are "if" "then" "else" statements built directly into the templates. This gives the admin/designer improved flexibility in creating dynamic design

--to the programming

Code Autoselect forumid for search when clicking search button on toplinks from the forum. Todays birthdays to not always refresh the cached template when someone submits a profile. Improved post storage to reduce resource usage when showing threads. Use gmdate() and NOT date() All bbcode/smilies are stripped from posts BEFORE indexpost() Quoted text excluded from search. Associate searchid with userid so people can't insert searchid's and get results they're not supposed to see Who's Online code is moved to a function so that it can be used to figure out a single user's location, to be used in the user's profile and other places if need be Meta tags -- forum descriptions (and keywords?) are added to the Meta tags for each forum page Infinite parenting system for templates/replacements Attachment images (.gif,.jpg,,etc) are no longer in the database. Search system is improved with regards to speed. Even faster now! No more "nosessionhash" setting. No more use cookies setting MD5 password by javascript before it is sent to the server A second phpinclude template to be executed at the same time as dooutput() - to allow manipulation of elements already generated by the page An API for posting functions (newreply, newthread, newpoll, editpost) An option to have thread views updated hourly rather than immediately Improved bbcode parser An option for allowing a regex option to be specified for a custom profile field Moved banned email addresses out of the settings Remove check for attachments from mass-prune
Design Back to Top link at bottom of page "Want to register?" and "Forgotten your password?" before user/pass form fields, for using tab All user info cells are combined into one template
Usability Hitting the back button no longer necessary when you have too many images Option to save cookie *on this computer* when logging in Login/logout ability in all pages, with user/pass form -- single login system

[Bad Bunny]

WOW! This really does sound impressive. I am curious though, I like most everything except the linear option. Is it possible to completely remove this from a forum?

Like...not even allow it to be used?

[Dr Shark]

Originally posted by Bad Bunny
WOW! This really does sound impressive. I am curious though, I like most everything except the linear option. Is it possible to completely remove this from a forum?

Like...not even allow it to be used? why would you want to completely remove it, some people that visit your board might like it more then the others.

[Kapil]

So, basically, it's just cosmetic. Mind you, the whole package is very enticing and nicely put together, but many of those things are achievable in under a month :)

Except for the admin area, which I haven't seen yet in 3.0, it would appear the big version change isn't really merited. I mean, jumping to 3.0 just cause you use gmdate() and have a fancy div instead of using normal textareas? Doesn't seem fair to me...

Oh well, kudos on the whole bulletin then

[Glitch]

Originally posted by Kapil
So, basically, it's just cosmetic. Mind you, the whole package is very enticing and nicely put together, but many of those things are achievable in under a month :)

Except for the admin area, which I haven't seen yet in 3.0, it would appear the big version change isn't really merited. I mean, jumping to 3.0 just cause you use gmdate() and have a fancy div instead of using normal textareas? Doesn't seem fair to me...

Oh well, kudos on the whole bulletin then

I was under the impression that the new 3.0 engine was written to no longer require the register_globals in PHP to be turned on which is a major developement in security...

Glitch

[Yuber]

For the karma is there an option in the cp to turn on or off banning after certain karma bad points?

[NTLDR]

Originally posted by Kapil
it would appear the big version change isn't really merited.

The fact that everything has been re-done and the major changes throught, if it could be done in a month most of us would be running it now.

[Xenon]

what you see are perhaps jsut cosmetic changes (and even these don't you see, because style not finished yet ;))

the better optimized code and so on, you can't see with just looking onto the board as normal user....

[dynamite]

Originally posted by Wayne Luke
Maybe this small list of improvements will help you understand what has changed. Mind you it doesn't include everything on it yet.
Doesn't include everything on it yet!!! You have everything I could ever dream of!

[Bad Bunny]

Originally posted by DS2K2
why would you want to completely remove it, some people that visit your board might like it more then the others. Becuase I do not want that "feature". Being my forum...shouldn't I be able to disable features I did not want?
If I can disable PMs, then why shouldn't I be able to disable threaded/hybrid viewing?

[dwh]

Originally posted by Wayne Luke
Maybe this small list of improvements will help you understand what has changed. Mind you it doesn't include everything on it yet. Thanks wayne...would it be possible to list the changes in the template system..I read somewhere this would be overhauled?

[h88]

Could someone tell me where can i post vBulletin 2 bugs? it seems that i can't create a thread in there! (vBulletin 2 Bugs Forum)

[pollie]

Was just wondering if it isn't possible to insert the smilies in the quickreply box to make it more easy fr dial-up connections?

if I wanna use a smilie now I need to use the normal reply buttonso would be easier if it was implanted in the quickreplybox also:)

Thx for any comment

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by pollie
Was just wondering if it isn't possible to insert the smilies in the quickreply box to make it more easy fr dial-up connections?

if I wanna use a smilie now I need to use the normal reply buttonso would be easier if it was implanted in the quickreplybox also:)

Thx for any comment You can use any smilies you want, such as :) and :( and :rolleyes: from the QR box - anything that the board supports. The Clickable Smilies box won't be added to QR because it is not intended to be a replica of newreply.

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by h88
Could someone tell me where can i post vBulletin 2 bugs? it seems that i can't create a thread in there! (vBulletin 2 Bugs Forum) Only moderators can post in the bugs forum. If you have a suspected bug, post it in troubleshooting and it will be moved once verified.

To post in troubleshooting you'll need to visit this page http://www.vbulletin.com/members/forums.php and enter your username.

[h88]

I posted it here, could u check it out:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=60546

[Kapil]

Originally posted by NTLDR
The fact that everything has been re-done and the major changes throught, if it could be done in a month most of us would be running it now.

Well, 2 months :)


That's why I asked, what kinda changes where there to the actual engine (and don't come with all the wysiwyg bs, it doesn't buy me)? If it doesn't use register_globals() then it must be very cool and all, but then again (not wanting to be rude at all), all I see is vB2 with some extra stuff and some very giddy users...

[Prince]

Why no spell checker added to vB 3?

[cka]

Originally posted by Prince
Why no spell checker added to vB 3? Probably because the spell checker used in previous versions requires a payment now...

[NTLDR]

Originally posted by Kapil
If it doesn't use register_globals() then it must be very cool and all

I'm sure vB2 will work with register globals off, I could be compleatly wrong though ;)

[pollie]

Originally posted by tubedogg
You can use any smilies you want, such as :) and :( and :rolleyes: from the QR box - anything that the board supports. The Clickable Smilies box won't be added to QR because it is not intended to be a replica of newreply.

Ok thx for the response m8

[Prince]

Originally posted by cka
Probably because the spell checker used in previous versions requires a payment now...

Spellchecker.net does, yes, but Aspell libaries can be used for free.

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by Prince
Spellchecker.net does, yes, but Aspell libaries can be used for free. ...but must be installed by the server administrator, which many people that use vBulletin cannot have done.

[vBR]

Originally posted by tubedogg
...but must be installed by the server administrator, which many people that use vBulletin cannot have done.

Can there be an option to use it if the instalation is present else disable it?

[freeurmind]

When can we expect a full release version of vbulletin3? Or can we at least download the beta?

[Xenon]

Originally posted by freeurmind
When can we expect a full release version of vbulletin3? Or can we at least download the beta? as stated hundret times before:
no set date yet, when it's finished.

yes there will be a public beta, also when it's far enough ;)