Vbulletin CMS?

[duxtra]

For the past several months I have been hearing speculation of vbulletin creating a version 3.0 of the software that would include its very own Content Management System. How valid or these claims? How long will it be until this version is available to the public? I believe it would be an extremely useful tool.

[Scott MacVicar]

The development is focusing on getting vB3 finished, once the first stable release is made then work will start on the CMS.

[Raz Meister]

Most people already have a CMS type solution implemented.

Now forums....thats what we rely on Jelsoft for :)

[Wayne Luke]

Originally posted by Razzie
Most people already have a CMS type solution implemented.

Now forums....thats what we rely on Jelsoft for :)

While this is true, I am getting ready to implement a vBIndex based front-end for one of my forums. However it isn't very robust and I will drop it like a lead ballon once vBCMS is released.

[Raz Meister]

So its going to be called vBCMS? Not very imaginative ;)

But personally I wouldn't change to "vBCMS" because we already have a 'custom-fit' CMS type program, and would take forever to convert over even if we wanted to.

Although if I was starting afresh I would seriously consider using it, depending on its performence and features OC.

[Kier]

Actually, I was thinking of calling it vContent, to go with vBulletin...

Of course, there will always be those people who will then refer to it as VCC for the same lunatic reason they talk about VBB :rolleyes:

[Raz Meister]

vContent does sound better than vBCMS! :)


Originally posted by Kier
Of course, there will always be those people who will then refer to it as VCC for the same lunatic reason they talk about VBB :rolleyes: Or even vBCMS ;)

[duxtra]

So from the postings on this topic I would gather that vbulletin does plan on implementing a Content Management System somewhere down the road. Here is my dilemma! I've been using vbulletin for several months now and have found it to be a quality product. With this in mind I will be very eager to see if the CMS is of the same caliber quality. I'm seriously looking for a CMS for one of my sites very soon. Should I go ahead and get a CMS application for my site or should I wait for vbulletin's CMS?

It would probably be a good idea to create my very own CMS, however I do not have the time to do this. If I spend money on a CMS what was your recommendation be? Are there any really good free CMS application's?

I was also looking at the Site Works Pro CMS. Their site can be found here: http://www.siteworkspro.com

Any opinions on the product?

[Raz Meister]

Not the best place to discuss potential competitiors products. ;)

But if you're looking for a CMS solution within the month or so, you will need to look at another product.

[LanciaStratos]

Originally posted by Kier
Actually, I was thinking of calling it vContent, to go with vBulletin...

Of course, there will always be those people who will then refer to it as VCC for the same lunatic reason they talk about VBB :rolleyes: Jelsoft could have a contest with the members of the vBulletin community to see who can come up with the best name - and the winner gets a free copy! :)

[tubedogg]

You might want to take a look at Aroze for the time being - www.aroze.com . Supposedly they are releasing a free version within the next few days/weeks...of course this is after it was supposed to go into beta last October, so who knows...

[Spark]

What I'd like to see is a system that can stand alone from vB though - I have another site that we run that I think could benefit from CMS but doesn't use a forum.

Could anyone point me to a secure, stable, CMS system that I could plug into, say, a ShopSite web store?

Kevin

[ccstephen]

Originally posted by wluke


While this is true, I am getting ready to implement a vBIndex based front-end for one of my forums. However it isn't very robust and I will drop it like a lead ballon once vBCMS is released.

What do you mean by vBIndex?

ccstephen

[Wayne Luke]

Originally posted by ccstephen


What do you mean by vBIndex?

ccstephen

It is a hack over at vBulletin.org. It is more of a repackaging of the frontpage of a forums site than a CMS and since I don't want a portal with all the junk they bring, it seemed like the best option until the CMS is ready.

[Fallout2man]

Well I'm sure the CMS will be great, I just hope it won't be too hard to integrate certain parts with vB3. I plan on eventually creating a totally integrated website/message board, and trying to integrate existing CMS with vB 2.2.x has been a nightmare and was eventually abandoned.

[Wayne Luke]

Originally posted by Fallout2man
Well I'm sure the CMS will be great, I just hope it won't be too hard to integrate certain parts with vB3. I plan on eventually creating a totally integrated website/message board, and trying to integrate existing CMS with vB 2.2.x has been a nightmare and was eventually abandoned.

The one released by Jelsoft will be a drop-in addon to vBulletin. It won't be a standalone product.

[Grover]

The one released by Jelsoft will be a drop-in addon to vBulletin. It won't be a standalone product.

What exactly does the phrase 'drop-in addon' mean?

Grover.

[Kier]

It's a plug-in. It is a complimentary product to vBulletin, and will not work without vBulletin.

[Grover]

Right.

So does this mean -for example- the following:

When someone posts a news-article on the mainpage, people
can write a comment on that. Like:

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NEWS article nummero 1

However, what has always been a focus for Leadtek is producing consumer level graphics cards based on the latest technology available on the market. Which of course brings us the the present day. Leadtek has been an NVIDIA "house" way back throughout their roots. It's no surprise that they were one of the first manufacturers to release a new product based on NVIDIA's new 3D Gaming powerhouse, the GeForce 4 Ti 4600. It's also no surprise that Leadtek took the NVIDIA base design and made it their own.

[12 comments]
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When people click on [12 comments] you will be redirected to the VB Forum where the replies on this news-article are. ---> I would like to know if it works this way. Just like on http://www.macsubculture.com/ for example.

I hope it works like this, because I want to keep ALL my news articles in VB and even more important: I want to keep all the comments there as well, so people can always search for any old news and the comments on that if they want to.

Kier and WLuke did say the following:


Kier
and will you have the option to have a box in the side column, for "receont threads in the forum for this artticle? articles are not contained within forums

WLuke
A CMS is a content management system. This content can be stand-alone articles, product reviews or even scanned documents that provide information to your users. This content is usually kept separate from any discussion forums and independant. If need be it can stand on its own without something like vBulletin.

In my opinion they should be two separate entities and not woven together. vBPortal at phpportals.com is not a CMS and neither really are programs like Php-Nuke, though they are more CMS than true portal software.

I was wondering why Wluke thinks it should be 2 separate products? Do you mean that people therefor can NOT reply on a news-article through the discussion forum, like I mention above?

Just curious,
Grover.

[okrogius]

Originally posted by Grover
Right.

So does this mean -for example- the following:

When someone posts a news-article on the mainpage, people
can write a comment on that. Like:

---------------------------------------------------
NEWS article nummero 1

However, what has always been a focus for Leadtek is producing consumer level graphics cards based on the latest technology available on the market. Which of course brings us the the present day. Leadtek has been an NVIDIA "house" way back throughout their roots. It's no surprise that they were one of the first manufacturers to release a new product based on NVIDIA's new 3D Gaming powerhouse, the GeForce 4 Ti 4600. It's also no surprise that Leadtek took the NVIDIA base design and made it their own.

[12 comments]
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When people click on [12 comments] you will be redirected to the VB Forum where the replies on this news-article are. ---> I would like to know if it works this way. Just like on http://www.macsubculture.com/ for example.

I hope it works like this, because I want to keep ALL my news articles in VB and even more important: I want to keep all the comments there as well, so people can always search for any old news and the comments on that if they want to.

Kier and WLuke did say the following:



I was wondering why Wluke thinks it should be 2 separate products? Do you mean that people therefor can NOT reply on a news-article through the discussion forum, like I mention above?

Just curious,
Grover.

It is two seperate products jus tone will be needed to use the other. vb team is NOT build a portal, look in the defintion of cms and a portal - they're quite different. And they will also eliminate what you suggested (thank god). If you want a poorly coded protal get a vb portal, php nuke, etc.

[Grover]

Hi Codename,

You say:


And they will also eliminate what you suggested (thank god). If you want a poorly coded protal get a vb portal, php nuke, etc.

Why do you say 'thank god'? I am not familiar with portals and all that kind of stuff, so my knowledge is very minimal. Seems like you have more experience on this matter, so can you explain to me why my 'suggestion' is not a good one? It seemed to me that integrating vbulletin with 'posting news-messages on the mainpage' was very handy. I came across http://www.macsubculture.com/ and saw exactly this. Can you explain to me why this isn't a good implementation and how it can be done better?

I am building a non-commercial support-website for patients who suffer from severe hair-diseases. Our support-site covers 4 diseases. It is divided into mainly 4 'tabs' : 4 categories. Our VBulletin webcommunity is already an enormous 'succes' and in 2003 we want to put our time in building the actual website. The website is really going to be FULL of content (...) and I can not really run/update it all by myself in the future. I would like to have the possibility that other people can work on the site too, all apart from eachother. So people can actually add content to the 4 different categories, and they do not have to depend on me (the webmaster) to do it. They should be able to do that on their own computer, decentralized from where I live/my computer.

And when they post an article or whatever on a 'Tab/category', it would be very nice if our members of our VB forum could comment on that and that all these comments are stored for future use, so I thought VB would be ideal for that.

So when I heard and learned a little bit about the CMS overhere at vbulletin.com I was wondering if this was the perfect solution for our website in the future.

Thanx,
Grover.