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DJA
Sun 30th Jun '02, 8:33pm
if someone is using an old version of vBulletin (like 2.0.4), but has changed the footer template to show version 2.2.6 (misleading members into thinking it's an updated version), what are the consequences?
is that illegal? does that violate the license agreement? is it unethical? can anything be done?
is there a way for a non-member to tell what version is being used without access to the admin panel? maybe by looking at the source code?
Cary
Sun 30th Jun '02, 8:40pm
I don't think there are any "consequences"... I don't even see why anybody would want to do this...
nuno
Sun 30th Jun '02, 8:43pm
Originally posted by DJA
......
is that illegal? does that violate the license agreement? is it unethical? can anything be done?
no
Originally posted by DJA
is there a way for a non-member to tell what version is being used without access to the admin panel?
no
DJA
Sun 30th Jun '02, 9:00pm
Originally posted by Cary
I don't think there are any "consequences"... I don't even see why anybody would want to do this...
Well....
I believe the old version is being used so the admin can see passwords. I believe the admin is using passwords to access another vB site that is private - many people use the same usernames and passwords on various sites.
The newer versions of vB encode the passwords in the software so no one can see the passwords - even admin.
When this fact was mentioned, magically, the version number changed at the website in question.
Too bad nothing can be done.
I'd love to know if it's still the old version, though.
The admin is notorious for signing in as users to read PMs. I thought the 'P' in PM was 'private'.
Xanthate™
Sun 30th Jun '02, 9:04pm
Why dont you just go and check the admin panel then? That way you can find out...;)
Xanthate™
Cary
Sun 30th Jun '02, 9:04pm
Well... they always can get hacks like: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32625
Xanthate™
Sun 30th Jun '02, 9:25pm
I dont believe in looking at other peoples PMs... As DJA said the P in PM stands for private and it should stay that way... But I guess this isnt really a debate
DJA
Sun 30th Jun '02, 9:29pm
Right.
Not looking for debate. And the PM thing isn't really the issue in this case. It's using users' passwords to access another, private vB board to rip off information.
Looking for a way to prove that the admin is using the old vB version for these purposes.
Cary
Sun 30th Jun '02, 9:32pm
Go to the forums and type an extra /admin/
I doubt they changed the version number there ;)
i.e. http://www.vbulletin.com/admindemo/admin/
DJA
Sun 30th Jun '02, 9:42pm
thanks.
Gary King
Mon 1st Jul '02, 12:48am
Originally posted by Cary
Go to the forums and type an extra /admin/
I doubt they changed the version number there ;)
i.e. http://www.vbulletin.com/admindemo/admin/
That can still be easily changed, tho :rolleyes:
Cary
Mon 1st Jul '02, 1:03am
Originally posted by Blak n Wite
That can still be easily changed, tho :rolleyes:
But highly doubtful
Gary King
Mon 1st Jul '02, 1:16am
Originally posted by Cary
But highly doubtful
I goto my admin cp quite often, and so I always notice that line, AND if I was thinking of tricking my members into thinking that I was running an upgraded vB, then I'd most definitely change that :p
Cary
Mon 1st Jul '02, 1:31am
Well... a lot of people (including myself) aren't that smart to do that ;) I win. lol j/k :)
Gary King
Mon 1st Jul '02, 1:33am
Originally posted by Cary
Well... a lot of people (including myself) aren't that smart to do that ;) I win. lol j/k :)
hehe lol yea, I guess that is true, as well :rolleyes:
bigmattyh
Mon 1st Jul '02, 4:36am
Not that I would encourage this... *cough cough*... but if they are running an older version, one could try to figure out what that security exploit was. Then one could use it in a non-harmful way -- but in such a manner as to get the admin's attention -- to persuade him that his board is insecure and that he ought to upgrade.
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