vB 2.0 Online Demo - Discuss

[James]

Hello,

Please use this thread to discuss the online demo of vBulletin 2.0.

All the best,

James

[TechTalk]

muhahahahahahahahahah!!!!

[TechTalk]

Well so far a major bug in sessions....it thinks im a totally different user. Check out forum 1 in the test forums...

~Chris

[shashi]

when i go to the v2.0 test forum, it says "Welcome back dcsonic2k" who was the last one to register. so it kind of stores the cookie on the server :) and recognizes everyone as the last registered member!

[chrispadfield]

well it is there :) can't believe you just added it at 4.10 a.m. :) certainly working hard for us!

But loads and loads and loads of problems. I doubt you really want us to submit bugs yet do you?

[dcsonic2k]

I'm so flattered that everybody wants to be me :)

It may be caused by the fact that I got a database error when I posted....

You've got a lot of work to do

[TechTalk]

One thing to keep in mind.....James and John have alot of work to do on this version. They just wanted to keeo their promise and have something for us to play with today. Good work guys.... I look forward to the feature loaded release :)

~Chris

[shashi]

i click on Profile button in teh five links, then click on Edit Profile, do nothing, then go to Edit Options, change teh sig, and "Submit Modifications". It complains that :

"Please make sure that you have completed all the required fields. These include username, password and email. Press the back button, correct the error and try again. "

[TechTalk]

Yea lets lay low on bug reports for now...they know what needs to be done....

~Chris

[chrispadfield]

you are STARS

you have got SUB FORUMS :) not just sub categories!!!

http://www.vbulletin.com/v2demo/forumdisplay.php?forumid=2

you have absolutly NO IDEA how happy i am about this!!!

[dcsonic2k]

I would definetly suggest that you guys get a bug tracking and reporting system.... it would be a lot simpler and much more organized....

The major one is that right now TechTalk is my evil twin....

[TechTalk]

Originally posted by dcsonic2k
I would definetly suggest that you guys get a bug tracking and reporting system.... it would be a lot simpler and much more organized....

The major one is that right now TechTalk is my evil twin....


LOL! I try :D

[Me2Be]

Originally posted by dcsonic2k
The major one is that right now TechTalk is my evil twin....

LOL, maybe it's NOT a bug!!!

[chrispadfield]

hehe i have a twin as well :) yipeee...

[dcsonic2k]

I can see people's IP addresses (or at least the people that think they're that person)...that's not good

[Chris Schreiber]

Humm maybe I'm the only one not having an indenity crisis over there?? :)

Anyway, I absolutely love the new features and many thanks to both John & James for their hard work getting this major update together and for letting us lose on it to play with all the neat new features :)

-Chris

[Me2Be]

Originally posted by Chris Schreiber
Humm maybe I'm the only one not having an indenity crisis over there?? :)
-Chris

Nope, I'm "me" over there too - of course John/James have to have the king/queen of chit chat have their correct identities!

[dcsonic2k]

Invalid SQL: SELECT pollvoteid FROM pollvote WHERE userid= AND pollid=3
mysql error: You have an error in your SQL syntax near 'AND pollid=3' at line 1
mysql error number: 1064

Got that when I open any thread with a poll now

[Me2Be]

Any chance we can get a screenshot of the new admin CP?

[dcsonic2k]

Originally posted by Me2Be
Any chance we can get a screenshot of the new admin CP?

That would be great

[JimF]

Originally posted by Me2Be
Any chance we can get a screenshot of the new admin CP?

Okay, here ya go:



:)

-jim

[Me2Be]

you so silly Jim ;)

[wajones]

I must be banned it won't let me to register at all, says I have an illegal phrase in my profile??

[Shoe]

Originally posted by wajones
I must be banned it won't let me to register at all, says I have an illegal phrase in my profile??

I wish I knew an illegal phrase! Is it legal to scream fire! on a message board?

[Freddie Bingham]

hmm I'm not seeing anything to get excited about yet.

I see three hacks (pms,polls,buddy list) incorporated and a sub-forum system that creates a serious state of confusion upon the user considering some users can't even figure out how to post to begin with.

I want to see attachments on par with the uBB hack.

[Aldreis]

Originally posted by wajones
I must be banned it won't let me to register at all, says I have an illegal phrase in my profile??
Try wajo-n-es... :D

[werehere]

And splitting/merging of threads by the look of it! Also, the ignore member feature (which will be a hit on my forum I am sure!).

This is really exciting to me, and a lot of the errors are template related right now I am guessing. Of course there are tons of bugs to find, but it looks great! Some layout changes for ease of use should be addressed though. :)

[Me2Be]

Originally posted by freddie
I want to see attachments on par with the uBB hack.

Attachments is KEY for my site :) I really hope we see that with this program

[dcsonic2k]

Originally posted by wajones
I must be banned it won't let me to register at all, says I have an illegal phrase in my profile??

Yeah, the word "one" is illegial on the vbulletin demo forums.

[etones]

For some reason it wont allow me to register with the username: etones

I kept getting 'admin has banned some words in your username'

However, changing my U/N to 123 did the trick.

Strange.

[etones]

If you look in the members section.

User posts are not updated,
actually, anything todo with member posts are not updated.

If you look at any thread... Number of posts:

no actual number.

[JamesUS]

Most of the numbers (ie one, two etc) have been censored for some reason...:D
Since your username contains the number one it won't allow you to register.

[eva2000]

darn over slept my nap :( no one woke me up LOL

well i am having serious loading difficulties on both vB forums 1.1.4 and 2 since Australia is pretty much stuffed now when connecting to the US :(

i am trying to register now :)

[eva2000]

is the demo closed or something ? i get wrong password when i log in ?

[Mas*Mind]

When I click on a poll, I get a 'slight error in the database.....' error

Maybe this is because I haven't registered yet?

[Martin]

reading thru, yes there are a lot of issues to be worked out.

the subforums are a tad on the confusing side...

Mas*,
yes, it's because you weren't registered. I got it when I wasn't logged in.

[Sharg]

I tried to view a poll result:

"Slight problem with the database"

When I vote: I leads to a 404 page not found, althought it DOES count my vote.

Oh, and I ask any one to send me private messages over there so I can test it :)


Benj

[Edited by Benj on 11-21-2000 at 06:05 AM]

[Sharg]

It would be an excellent addition if subforums messages would ALSO be displayed in its mother forum.

(in reference to my suggestion in: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=4287 )

Of course, this would not be an obligation, the webmaster would decide of the reciprocity.

Benj

[Edited by Benj on 11-21-2000 at 06:06 AM]

[Sharg]

I shouldn't be able to add myself to my own buddy list....
I know its silly, but you know...... people should get a message like

"You can't add yourself to your own buddi list !"


Benj

[Sharg]

When someone reply to a post, there should be a check box on the reply:

"Send a copy of this reply to the private message box of xxxxxx".

This way, the person can turn email notification OFF and still know if she has reply when she get in.

Benj

[UserName]

Just wanted to say that I'm excited that progress is being made! Because of having to integrate the BB with my site backend I'm not planning to upgrade to 2.0 till early February and I'm sure most all the bugs will be squashed by then.

Thanks John & James, you guys rock!

[Sharg]

Private message:

- I have one private message. I replied it. Now it says I have two private messages. Messages in the sent box, shouldn't be counted as private message

-There should be a mark all read in private messages

-There is something strange with private message title:
I received one with a title, replied to it. In my sent box I saw my reply, but with another title that don't seem to correspond the the message title of the original message. I don't know exactly what is going on with it. It seems the subtitle is displayed in the sent box. Not very clear.

Well I guess this thread is not for bugs report. I'll stop and wait the bug forum to be opened here.

Benj

[Edited by Benj on 11-21-2000 at 07:19 AM]

[nadine]

The added level of forums is sweeeet! It needs a bit of surface restructuring, but it'll make my job so much easier. Added bonus I wasn't expecting.

Probably too early to ask but any estimate as to release? If it's soon, I may postpone taking mine off pilot. Don't mean to be pushy!

[eva2000]

same thing as benj i have 2 pm messages and it says i have 4 now after i did reply to the 2.

Also in here http://www.vbulletin.com/v2demo/showthread.php?sessionhash=05f936833d9c0bc600221b7 c572d55fd&threadid=55

i tried a post a poll and it gave an error


Database error in vBulletin: Invalid SQL: SELECT *,INSTR('4,3,-1',forumid) AS ordercontrol FROM forumpermission WHERE usergroupid= AND (forumid=4 OR forumid=3 OR forumid=-1) ORDER BY ordercontrol
mysql error: You have an error in your SQL syntax near 'AND (forumid=4 OR forumid=3 OR forumid=-1) ORDER BY ordercontrol' at line 1
mysql error number: 1064
Date: Tuesday 21st of November 2000 07:27:41 AM
Script: /v2demo/poll.php?sessionhash=05f936833d9c0bc600221b7c572d5 5fd&threadid=55&polloptions=4
Referer:


also moving the preview and submit thread buttons is confusing



Originally posted by Benj
Private message:

- I have one private message. I replied it. Now it says I have two private messages. Messages in the sent box, shouldn't be counted as private message

-There should be a mark all read in private messages

-There is something strange with private message title:
I received one with a title, replied to it. In my sent box I saw my reply, but with another title that don't seem to correspond the the message title of the original message. I don't know exactly what is going on with it. It seems the subtitle is displayed in the sent box. Not very clear.

Well I guess this thread is not for bugs report. I'll stop and wait the bug forum to be opened here.

Benj

[Edited by Benj on 11-21-2000 at 07:19 AM]

[TechTalk]

Ill have to admit, I wont have any use for a vb 2.0 unless it has attachments. That is the primary feature that I need for another site. If there wont be attachments then ill just stick with the ubb over there.

~Chris

[Sharg]

2.0 is promising. However we realize that there is still lots of work and test to be done.

I must really schedule my work now, and I guess I'm not the only one.

So I would like to know what will happen now. Should we expect day to day corrections of bugs and close work between us and John ?

Or will we see big and spaced updates of the alpha ?

What I will do will depend on this as to know if I wait 2.0 to launch my or do it with 1.4.

Thanks,
Benj

[JamesUS]

Will the online demo get updated with the bugfixes as they are made, so that gradually the online demo becomes more usable?
Or will we have to wait for the beta release in the members area before we get a bug free release?
<edit>
posted similar thing as Benj at the same time :D
</edit>




[Edited by JamesUS on 11-21-2000 at 08:08 AM]

[The_Sisko]

Ok, it's an alpha....but I don't like the view of the sub forums. Looks like the categorie gecame a forum and under that are other forums. so not much change jet?
I think it should be as it is:
Categorie 1
- Forum1
- Forum2
Categorie 2
- Forum3
- Forum4
and only when you go to ForumX you will come to page with shows:
- SubForum1
- SubForum2
and no postings under ForumX when there is a subforum included, think user would be confused by letting them post under forumX and saw then posts and subfourms??

Think this part MUST be improved!!!!!

[chrispadfield]

don't change the category sub forum thing it is brilliant although i am sure you can make it easier in the templates. It is optional of course.

You can do easily

> category 1 > Category 2 > Forum

as well as




> category 1 > category 2 > Forum
> category 1 > category 2 > category 3 > Forum



I don't see what is wrong with that, it is brilliant!

[Chris Schreiber]

Originally posted by Me2Be
Attachments is KEY for my site :)

Same here! I'd love to see this done in a similar fashion to the UBB hack for file attachments :)

-Chris

[The_Sisko]

Originally posted by chrispadfield
I don't see what is wrong with that, it is brilliant!

I only thing when you can't turn off, that user kann even post in category2 an see the forums also it will be confusing.
> category 1 > category 2 > Forum

Also it's a Problem what to show on the main site? for example how many post in the category? Show all subforums or not.
And in the Test forum:
Whats about Forum5? Why don't we see the Forum post and thread nimbers?

These things I think must be worked out or anyway must be able to choose from Admin!

[JimF]

Everyone:

It was said earlier in the thread, but let's not go crazy with the bugs right off the bat. All the ones you have mentioned have been brought up, and are fairly obvious. I'm sure they will be fixed as time progresses.

So just chill out. James promised to have us something this week, and he kept that promise. You can't expect it to be totally bug free within hours of its Alpha release.

So James, what about a "vBulletin 2.0 Online Demo - Bugs" thread? ;)

-jim

[Menno]

Yes, a bug thread could speed up the bugtracking and overal development of 2.0

better make one :)

[Me2Be]

or maybe just take one of the forums on the new board and start a new thread for each bug so we don't have 10 different conversations in the one thread?

Maybe James/John can make a "bug report forum" for us over there

[chrispadfield]

Definitely have a bug report forum with a new thread for each one.

Should be like:

X reports a bug. Others say "yes" i got that problem as well.
John fixes it and uploads new version to test site
James posts that it is fixed
Couple of people post that "yes it is fixed".
James closes thread.

but at the moment we are a bit far away from that, so many bugs and major features missing that i am sure they are busy enough fixing what they know about before we give them more :)

[mferrell]

I have to agree with The_Sisko.



Ok, it's an alpha....but I don't like the view of the sub forums. Looks like the categorie gecame a forum and under that are other forums. so not much change jet?
I think it should be as it is:
Categorie 1
- Forum1
- Forum2
Categorie 2
- Forum3
- Forum4
and only when you go to ForumX you will come to page with shows:
- SubForum1
- SubForum2
and no postings under ForumX when there is a subforum included, think user would be confused by letting them post under forumX and saw then posts and subfourms??

Think this part MUST be improved!!!!!


This is a major usability problem. A great idea, but it needs to be modified so users don't get confused. What The_Sisko suggested sounds like a very good solution, or at least a start.

-M.

[werehere]

Originally posted by TechTalk
Ill have to admit, I wont have any use for a vb 2.0 unless it has attachments. That is the primary feature that I need for another site. If there wont be attachments then ill just stick with the ubb over there.

~Chris

That is fine. I am wondering where you saw that attatchments would be a feature? I never saw any statements saying it would, but may have missed it.

[Martin]

how does the ignore list work?

I added eva2000 to my ignore list, yet I can still see posts. It is only for Private Messages?

eva2k showed up fine on my buddy list.

[Freddie Bingham]

werehere

Attachments -> http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=4192&pagenumber=4

[werehere]

Originally posted by freddie
werehere

Attachments -> http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=4192&pagenumber=4

Thanks for pointing that out! :)

[JWS]

I sent myself a PM and it says that I now have 2 new messages waiting for me. When I go to MyvBHome, it only shows the one that I sent.

[Sharg]

Its because it counts also the sent messages.
I noted this in a previous message.... its not good like this.

Benj

[Martin]

Originally posted by werehere
...Also, the ignore member feature (which will be a hit on my forum I am sure!)...

That seems to be only for priate messages.

I, too, would like to see it incorporated for posts...

[werehere]

Originally posted by Martin

Originally posted by werehere
...Also, the ignore member feature (which will be a hit on my forum I am sure!)...

That seems to be only for priate messages.

I, too, would like to see it incorporated for posts...

Yeah I saw that! It would be better the other way for sure. We will just have to wait and see. :)

[Nicholas Brown]

Originally posted by Me2Be

Originally posted by freddie
I want to see attachments on par with the uBB hack.

Attachments is KEY for my site :) I really hope we see that with this program

Attachements is not good for those of us who's server is running in PHP Safe Mode :(

[SAWolf76]

Ok 2.0 looks grate but its an alpha so there r bugs....

now the 3 bugs I noticed until now are the following (I know that some were mentioned if not all):

1. PM counts sent and reseved messeges as new messeges to read. No problem if I don't keep a copy of the sent messege.

2. In PM kayout it shows the title of the messege as the name of the icon used...

3. An error page is produced when voting even though it works its just fowerding me to an error page.

I'll add more as I try 2.0 more :)

[SAWolf76]

No more error when voting...... :)

Still trying it out.........

[JimF]

So what about the Sig Length Limit hack?

;)

-jim

[Mike Sullivan]

BTW, I actually wrote a version of that sig limit hack that limits it to characters too :) I'm a complete idiot for not realizing how easy it was (substr anyone)

[arvind]

Yes there should be a limit on sig length, and what is with this religious theme anyways? There are quite a few around and it does start to stink pretty soon :)

[JimF]

Sorry, this one is my fault for going off topic...

[Shoe]

someone has my email address so I can't change my profile. I've heard of identity thiefs! I wonder if they're reading my email :)

[JamesUS]

I think this has been asked before, but James, can we see either a demo or screen shot(s) of the vB 2 control panel? I presume it's changed lots as well :)

[Mark Hewitt]

Echo JamesUS.

I think personally I'd like to use the control panel more than the actual forum itself. Even if I can't change any of the options I'd just like to see what options are there, how the templates are constructed etc.

Can't we have an admin demo like that, should be easy just turn off write permissions or something

Thanks.

[CJ]

ok

HUGE bugs, yade yade...

I visited the demo and I was logged in as 'UserName' (which is a member), but I have not registered that username, nor did I try to log into it. I posted somethig, which worked fine. Than suddenly all forums were closed for me and I couldn't reply. It said 'an email was sent to our technical staff...'

Might want to check this out....

[Mark Hewitt]

I think this just means the database is down because they are tinkering with it.

I wouldn't go on about bugs at this point as I am sure they know all about them and are dealing with them.

[ParadajZ]

Why not?! Take a look on phorum, how they make this support!

[UserName]

Originally posted by CJ
ok


I visited the demo and I was logged in as 'UserName' (which is a member), but I have not registered that username, nor did I try to log into it.


We must be sharing a cookie or something equally as strange...

[Mafukie]

Maybe it has something to do with sessions?

[Shoe]

Being able to see which buddies are online is nice!

[Troy Roberts]

Originally posted by The_Sisko
Ok, it's an alpha....but I don't like the view of the sub forums. Looks like the categorie gecame a forum and under that are other forums. so not much change jet?
I think it should be as it is:
Categorie 1
- Forum1
- Forum2
Categorie 2
- Forum3
- Forum4
and only when you go to ForumX you will come to page with shows:
- SubForum1
- SubForum2
and no postings under ForumX when there is a subforum included, think user would be confused by letting them post under forumX and saw then posts and subfourms??

Think this part MUST be improved!!!!!

That confused me also. I wasn't sure if the threads in the first category contained the ones in the sub categories or not. It would be nice to have an option to not allow threads at that level. I would probably just want to have a list of sub-categories.

Unless, of course, the list of threads on the first page was a compilation of the threads in the sub-categories. That might be cool.

[chrispadfield]

Troy it sounds like you think like i do on this, have a look at

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=4829

for what i think on it.

[Shoe]

I think part of the confusion re: forums on the demo is due to the way subforms are named: sub forum, e.g. If real names were used, users would be less confused in navigating the board. So I'm not too concerned about navigation confusion at this point.

[chrispadfield]

possibly, but i still want categories that can't have posts in them not just forums.

[Wayne Luke]

You can make it so your top level forums act like the categories of today by setting "Allow POsts" feature off in the user groups. Then you can restrict the flow of posts to your subforums.

I think the only thing you need to do to make categories and forums work the way you want in the new version is just work with the templates and permission settings. It shouldn't be that difficult.

[Skeptical]

All that really needs fixing "I think" is for there to be some sort of icon, like a custom forum icon next to sub-forums, and folder icons for threads.

[Jisung]

I've tried to search an ID made with Korean charactors.
and I got "Warning: Offset 0 is invalid for MySQL result index 8 in /usr/local/etc/httpd/sites/vbulletin.com/htdocs/v2demo/admin/db_mysql.php on line 108
" with no result.
I don't know whether it is very difficult to implement Unicode but VB can loose all asian market.;)
I asked same Q before and one guy told that there is a way to use unicode but since I'm not famillier with programing thus I decided to wait until VB can handle Unicode. Seems not in VB2.0 :(

[foens]

When beeing in a tread or forum that you subscripe to - it should be possible to se that you supsribe. The subscribe txt could change f.ex.