About removing copyright notice...

[Conscience]

Just a quick question about the copyright notice on the bottom of vbb pages. Are you allowed to remove it? can you get permission to do so?

[tubedogg]

You can get permission to do so by emailing sales@vbulletin.com and it does cost money, above the license fee. Otherwise it must remain in place.

[Conscience]

do you have any idea how much?

[IDN]

i know the price, but i will not say since it looks like they want to keep it to people that want to take it off, a quick email wont hurt :D

[Wolf42]

Whats so bad with the copyright? It doesn't matter how it looks like, it only must be there. Readable ;)

[Fusion]

Some sites look better when they're not "cluttered" with 3rd-party notices, that's just one reason why someone would want to spend that little extra.

[jphilipson]

Some companies do not like other companies logos/copyright on thier site.

[JAB Creations]

This will still display the copyright information, but make it less cluttered. Note, don't change the information as that would violate the terms and etc. But you can change where and how the copyright link is displayed. Setting the link to the same color via css would violate the terms as well, as well as just recoloring the already default copyright info to the bg color, so this is the only real way you can lessen 3rd party clutter to an absolute min.

<script Language="JavaScript">
<!--
function helpBox() {
m1 = "Copyright . . .\n";
m2 = "Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.\n \n";
m3 = "Powered by . . .\n";
m4 = "2000, 2001, vBulletin Version 2.2.5\n";
m5 = "";
//Code Information Here

alert(m1+m2+m3+m4+m5); //code information here
}
//-->
</script>

<p align="center"><a href="JavaScript:helpBox()">Copyright</a></p>

[tubedogg]

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=302464#post302464

[okrogius]

Originally posted by Fusion
Some sites look better when they're not "cluttered" with 3rd-party notices, that's just one reason why someone would want to spend that little extra.

Dunno if you know the price, but as in most programs copyright removal isn't a little fee. Vbulletin isn't an exception to that.

[Floris]

Originally posted by JAB Creations
This will still display the copyright information, but make it less cluttered. Note, don't change the information as that would violate the terms and etc. But you can change where and how the copyright link is displayed. Setting the link to the same color via css would violate the terms as well, as well as just recoloring the already default copyright info to the bg color, so this is the only real way you can lessen 3rd party clutter to an absolute min.

<script Language="JavaScript">
<!--
function helpBox() {
m1 = "Copyright . . .\n";
m2 = "Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.\n \n";
m3 = "Powered by . . .\n";
m4 = "2000, 2001, vBulletin Version 2.2.5\n";
m5 = "";
//Code Information Here

alert(m1+m2+m3+m4+m5); //code information here
}
//-->
</script>

<p align="center"><a href="JavaScript:helpBox()">Copyright</a></p> But as it says in the comment on the footer template "Do not remove it" - You did.
You even made it 'client side' and not 'server side'.

[Fusion]

Originally posted by Codename49
Dunno if you know the price, but as in most programs copyright removal isn't a little fee. Vbulletin isn't an exception to that. I do know the fee, and yes, for companies that would like to do without the notice, the fee is just a little extra, that is, in the grand scheme of things.

Now, Jelsoft would rather not see yet another discussion about this, so I suggest we discontinue it before they close the thread. :)

[klisis]

As someone mentioned, emailing won't hurt. Why not e-mail them? It doesn't cost you any money but some time to get the reply.

As for the price, I believe it is case by case.

Originally posted by Codename49


Dunno if you know the price, but as in most programs copyright removal isn't a little fee. Vbulletin isn't an exception to that.

[irc]

Originally posted by jphilipson
Some companies do not like other companies logos/copyright on thier site. Maybe InfoPop has made the wise decision to use vbulletin on their own site.

[TECK]

i personally want to display the vBulletin link because is a source of income for me. my site is powered entierly by vBulletin.

[lucy]

i know the price, but i will not say since it looks like they want to keep it to people that want to take it off, a quick email wont hurt :D

LMAO

I made that quick email myself, and I was shocked, reason they don't like to say is that it will scare everyone!

LMAO

LMAO

:D:p

[Wayne Luke]

The price quoted is per customer... This means that you pay one price whether you have 1 vBulletin license or you have 10 vBulletin licenses.

Obviously, it is geared towards our more corporate customers though.

[lucy]

Obviously, it is geared towards our more corporate customers though.

It certainly is LOL

I certainly wouldn't pay that amount for having one VB license, I only run a fan site certainly nothing corprate...

Maybe VB should think about the "little people" :(

:rolleyes:

[Icheb]

I wonder why the "little people" have to remove the copyright notice?
Ah right, it could have an impact on your credibility :p .

[CeleronXT]

Some sites look better when they're not "cluttered" with 3rd-party notices, that's just one reason why someone would want to spend that little extra.Yup, those two lines create so much clutter... :(



:D

[t()mbst()ne]

I see no problem with having the little copyright notice at the bottom of the pages, as that is how i found out about the vBulletin forum software in the first place... by seeing it on the bottom of a forum i visited, and then bought a license (owned) for a site i started. I have seen a couple of sites that have had it removed by paying a rather large some of money :D but why bother when you could have bought 10+ owned forum license... silly really, IMO.

[danb00]

cant you changed the price of the ownded licence to the price of the leased licence, then have a cheaper price for the leased licence.

Cos i am 16 and i like vb and have bought a licence, but it seems alot of money just for something so small. So why cant you make something aimed at the little people, cos if you do that then it might boost sales, cos otherwise you can only get so much oout of big companies then thats it.

[lucy]

It always seems that people cannot express what they think without people coming in and saying such remarks as I wonder why the "little people" have to remove the copyright notice?
Ah right, it could have an impact on your credibility

My credibility is just fine, thanks very much, and I personally think that people that are not some corp giants should have the "choice" to remove it if they wish... (lets face it if your not a corp you don't have much choice unless you got money to burn!)

It doesn't look bad, it doesn't take up any room at all really and to be honest I didn't have any intentions on paying to remove it anyway, I was just curious to see how much it was!

I am just sorry that I cannot post that I am shocked at the price without getting cocky remarks!

[Wayne Luke]

We feel that the price is fair and just. It is way below market standards for the class of product that we target as our direct competitors.

We do look at small customers. This is namely why our licensing fees are so low when they could easily be four to five times as much given the stability, quality and strength of our product.

[lucy]

Wayne

I completely understand this but lets face it if VB was 4-6 times more expensive you wouldn't even have half the amount of customers you do today!

:D

It's a wonderful product and I wouldn't want to use anything else but VB but I feel that the price of the copyright removal is very very high...

Again these are all just my opinions which I have the right too have..

Have a great day

[Icheb]

Sorry, but I just don't get it. What could you possibly earn by removing one, maybe two lines? Your site won't get more visitors and you won't make more revenue because of that.
I totally understand why companies want to remove it, but sites from those "little people" who all of us are so eager to talk about and to "help"?
Give me one reason based on real evidence, and not just "because i want it" or "well, because", then I will reconsider.

[lucy]

Sorry, but I just don't get it. What could you possibly earn by removing one, maybe two lines? Your site won't get more visitors and you won't make more revenue because of that.
I totally understand why companies want to remove it, but sites from those "little people" who all of us are so eager to talk about and to "help"?
Give me one reason based on real evidence, and not just "because i want it" or "well, because", then I will reconsider.

Firstly let me get this straight I DID NOT say I wanted to remove it I was just curious why you had to email VB to find out how much it was...

Secondly, why are the little people so different to the corps in the way they manage and run their site???????

If not on most occasions they manage their sites 100 times better than these big wig corps... So we are no different therefore maybe some of us want it removed for those reasons!

I shall not be commenting again as I am tired of this, got better things to do with my time...

[Icheb]

The only reason I can think of why some comanies wish to remove the copyright notice is because they don't want links to third-party sites on their site. It doesn't matter how well they run their site or not.

Oh and btw, I am one of those little people with those little sites and I am extremely curious why one of "us" would want these one / two lines removed.

[Wayne Luke]

I think this has gone on long enough. If you want to know more about the Branding Free License, please contact us at sales@vbulletin.com. We will be more than happy to discuss it with you.