questions - 3.0

[IDN]

are you writing 3.0 all over again or using the same vb2 code?

[hypedave]

I believe they are writing it all over again, because none of the hacks that work for 2.2.X will work for 3.0

[GameCrash]

I think I have read it is based on vB 2.2 but - there will not be much original code left in vB3 ;)

[Kier]

There are parts of vB2 that have undergone only minor rewrites to fit in with vB3, but the underlying code (the core) has been pretty much completely rewritten.

Most hacks won't work, but most will need only minor rewrites to make them work with vB3.

[bigmattyh]

Hmmm... I don't quite believe you, Kier... I think I will require physical evidence to corroborate your claims about vB3...

If you agree that it is in your best interests to send me a copy of the vB3 source, please do so. It will help resolve the mystery surrounding vB3 and only enhance your credibility...

:smilie with raised eyebrow:


MWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

[IDN]

alot of the vb2 hacks wont be needed since most features will alreayd be in vb3 :)

[hypedave]

Originally posted by IDN
alot of the vb2 hacks wont be needed since most features will alreayd be in vb3 :)


we really dont know that for sure, although its been said :cool:

[Wayne Luke]

Originally posted by IDN
alot of the vb2 hacks wont be needed since most features will alreayd be in vb3 :)

Out of 600+ hacks available for VB2, it is doubtful that a majority of them will become standard features.

[hypedave]

Originally posted by wluke


Out of 600+ hacks available for VB2, it is doubtful that a majority of them will become standard features.


thankyou I couldnt have said it more perfectly

[IDN]

Originally posted by wluke
Out of 600+ hacks available for VB2, it is doubtful that a majority of them will become standard features.

only the good ones

[DirectPixel]

Originally posted by IDN


only the good ones "Good" is a relative term, taking into account need, interest, and situations.

[HenryG2]

Since most hacks available at vbulletin.org aren't for everyone, that doesn't leave a big selection of hacks that will be useful and needed by everyone.

That's probably why they won't make a lot of them standard features.

[Martin CX]

Is the beta going to be upgradable to the full release version? My bosses are getting very impatient with vB and I want to implement the vB3 changes ASAP.

How is the beta coming along BTW?

[Kier]

Originally posted by Martin CX
Is the beta going to be upgradable to the full release version? My bosses are getting very impatient with vB and I want to implement the vB3 changes ASAP.

How is the beta coming along BTW? It's getting there... and yes, it will be upgradeable to the final release.

[CeleronXT]

J'ai une question aussi. :D

Will the admincenter be totally remade over? If so, give it a cool look... :) No more purple.... Lol.

Btw, will the vbStats option be available in vB3?
Also, that proxy detector from vb.org is a must.... Very useful.

[DirectPixel]

Et puis, j'ai votre reponse.:D

The scheme, I think, might be blue.

[XiXora]

as long as its not a dark theme its ok :) dark themes seem to gimme a bad feeling about something.

[CeleronXT]

Bleu? C'est vraiment? C'est chouette ça! :D

[DirectPixel]

Alors, on parle en francais ici?:p

J'aime le bleu aussi, mais il semblait que toute la monde utilise le blue. vBulletin doit etre quelque chose unique, mais pour moi, le bleu est bon, car mon site est en bleu!:D

[bigmattyh]

Pourquoi est-ce que vBulletin doit n'utiliser pas la bleu pour ses colours? J'avais vu l'avatar de freddie, et la bleu la' est tres belle.

Et pardonne ma francais s'elle est mal... il y avais sept ou huit ans depuis j'avais assiste' une classe de francais.

[hypedave]

Originally posted by eiSecure
Alors, on parle en francais ici?:p

J'aime le bleu aussi, mais il semblait que toute la monde utilise le blue. vBulletin doit etre quelque chose unique, mais pour moi, le bleu est bon, car mon site est en bleu!:D


tu ta pelle comment ?

[CeleronXT]

Oui, mon site est bleu aussi. C'est un bleu-foncé, mais il sembler immobile bon. J'espère... :)

[heretic]

back on topic-

Am I correct to assume that we'd have to re-do all our templates?

[Wayne Luke]

Originally posted by heretic
back on topic-

Am I correct to assume that we'd have to re-do all our templates?

Most likely.

[Freddie Bingham]

Originally posted by heretic
back on topic-

Am I correct to assume that we'd have to re-do all our templates? Yes.

[heretic]

will template format and vars be at least similar? in terms of a defined postbit, inside of a showthread? because I'm making an extremely customized threadview :)

[XiXora]

i've halted my clan site cos i dont know the varibles to integrate all my things together

[HenryG2]

Ok, I've been trying to get this one hack done for....well, since I can't remember.

To the developers: Have you ever taken a look at "SnowBoards". It's mainly a BBS for very busy corporations. Examples of these forums are GameShark Boards (http://boards.gameshark.com/) and the IGN Message Boards (http://boards.ign.com/)

If you delve a bit further into the system, you'll notice that the moderators, vips, and admins/managers have colored user names (globally, if I might add). This means, in private messages, threads, forum views, and everything else. They can change their colors through an option in their control panels instantly, given that they are in a required position.

...Can we please have this in vB3??!! :)

[DirectPixel]

Originally posted by HenryG2
Ok, I've been trying to get this one hack done for....well, since I can't remember.

To the developers: Have you ever taken a look at "SnowBoards". It's mainly a BBS for very busy corporations. Examples of these forums are GameShark Boards (http://boards.gameshark.com/) and the IGN Message Boards (http://boards.ign.com/)

If you delve a bit further into the system, you'll notice that the moderators, vips, and admins/managers have colored user names (globally, if I might add). This means, in private messages, threads, forum views, and everything else. They can change their colors through an option in their control panels instantly, given that they are in a required position.

...Can we please have this in vB3??!! :) Maybe you'll get better luck in the suggestions forum?:confused:

(Nice idea, by the way.:))

[HenryG2]

Isn't this the suggestion forum? If there's one for vB 3, please point me to it. ;)

[DirectPixel]

Oop! Didn't notice that!:D

[Freddie Bingham]

Originally posted by HenryG2
Ok, I've been trying to get this one hack done for....well, since I can't remember.

To the developers: Have you ever taken a look at "SnowBoards". It's mainly a BBS for very busy corporations. Examples of these forums are GameShark Boards (http://boards.gameshark.com/) and the IGN Message Boards (http://boards.ign.com/)

If you delve a bit further into the system, you'll notice that the moderators, vips, and admins/managers have colored user names (globally, if I might add). This means, in private messages, threads, forum views, and everything else. They can change their colors through an option in their control panels instantly, given that they are in a required position.

...Can we please have this in vB3??!! :) In vb3 you can set the style, per usergroup, for which usernames show up as by using html.

[HenryG2]

Is that true throughout the entire board?


...That still isn't what I want, but a nice step forward...

[Chen]

Originally posted by HenryG2
Is that true throughout the entire board?


...That still isn't what I want, but a nice step forward...
Yes it works for the whole board, but you can only set it from the Admin CP (at least that's how it works now).

[CeleronXT]

Will vB3 be able to successfully nest 3 quote tags?

[tubedogg]

Quote tags *could* be successfully nested now, but that ability was disabled for sanity & server load purposes.

[XiXora]

whats the point in that now we have threaded views....

[DirectPixel]

Originally posted by XiXora
whats the point in that now we have threaded views.... Because there's still the choice to have it as it is now.

[CeleronXT]

Are threaded views the same thing as the look of like a bravenet board? If so, it's ugly. :) Anyway, I wish they'd enable nesting.... It's so annoying in PM's where the reply sticks quotes in and if you constantly pm back and forth then the tags get messed up constantly and you gotta delete them.

[Mike Sullivan]

Originally posted by CeleronXT
It's so annoying in PM's where the reply sticks quotes in and if you constantly pm back and forth then the tags get messed up constantly and you gotta delete them. That's already changed for 3.0 anyway.

But in regards to nesting tags, recursive regular expressions have been extremely problematic everytime I've tried to use them.

[HenryG2]

How about having the Star Wars theme from Episode I (Duel of the Fates) play in the background in the Admin CP?


Now that would be a feature that would sell the product.


:p

[DirectPixel]

Having been nice enough to NOT include the song would sell the product even more.;):D

[SteppenWolf]

Arretez de vous moquer des français :D :D :D


>> Will vB3 have prefix in table names ?
Ex: vBulletin_user

I think that vB3 will need some tables changes so it would be interesting prefixing the tables names to clarify the database.

I don't really need it personnaly but i heard it have been requested.


Bonne journée à tous ! :)

[JamesUS]

We have discussed table prefixes but have not decided whether to include them yet or not.

[DirectPixel]

I agree, they could come in handy for people running more than one board off of one database. However, it would promote people running more than one copy of the script.

But...it would open the door to hacks similar to the style drop-down, except the user switches content instead.:D;)

[XiXora]

make it a fixed prefix then. i hate installing another script but i cant because it usuaully uses the same tbale ( user :p )
this encouraged me to make my own scripts :p
but i would have prefixes if they were changeable or not

[SteppenWolf]

Originally posted by eiSecure
But...it would open the door to hacks similar to the style drop-down, except the user switches content instead.:D;)

What would be different than by now ?

Personnaly, don't need it, i run my own dedicated server, but a lot of users had shared hosting and it would be more clear ...


So, wait & see :p

[CeleronXT]

Hmmm.... During installation or in config file, you should be able to chose the prefix. That way you could install more than one thing in database or another vB itself.

[bigmattyh]

The prefixing feature would require a lot of work and testing, I would assume. I think most of the people who would really need it are those whose sites are hosted on a shared platform and are limited to only one MySQL database. And a few who just want to keep all their data in one database.

So the question is: Is there a large enough segment of the vB population who would need this feature to justify the coding and testing time to implement it?

[CeleronXT]

Originally posted by bigmattyh
So the question is: Is there a large enough segment of the vB population who would need this feature to justify the coding and testing time to implement it? There's an obvious answer to that question and everyone knows it.... That answer is:

maybe. :D

[heretic]

I would like to have the ability to modify template sets at the same time, beings I have 3 seperate ones

[Kier]

Originally posted by heretic
I would like to have the ability to modify template sets at the same time, beings I have 3 seperate ones Then I think you will like vB3 a lot... although the way it works is much more powerful that I think you are wishing here ;)

[Andy Z]

Originally posted by Kier
Then I think you will like vB3 a lot... although the way it works is much more powerful that I think you are wishing here ;)
You just love ot tease us, don't you. :)

[hypedave]

yo andy, you avatar and sig rocks hard man :)

[Andy Z]

I had to do something during my break on Monday night. I'm glad you like it. Only took about 15 minutes. It works for me. :D

[hypedave]

Originally posted by andypotter
I had to do something during my break on Monday night. I'm glad you like it. Only took about 15 minutes. It works for me. :D

when I first looked all I saw was this huge 3, lol then I saw coming soon, and was like sweet the Dev's are advertising now, then I looked at the username, lol

that would make a great flash intro, lol
add a little animation to it

[Andy Z]

Originally posted by hypedave when I first looked all I saw was this huge 3, lol then I saw coming soon, and was like sweet the Dev's are advertising now, then I looked at the username, lol

that would make a great flash intro, lol
add a little animation to it

Was actually starting out with that but ran out of time. Ooo and look I'm on another break. *opens Flash*

[dslteam]

Very important question: at the moment i use the "Avatar Link" hack, which makes possible that the avatars are on remote servers of users.

question: will be this feature in the vb3 ??

if yes, will it be possible to export all the "avatarlinks" mysql table to the new vb3 feature?

thanks!

[XiXora]

hacks are not supported by the vB dev team

maybe a hacker can export it :P ( if this kind of feature is included )

[dslteam]

sure, but my question is: if vB3 will support such feature like remote avatar ?

[Steve Machol]

I just checked the beta and it does not support this.

[JamesUS]

There are currently no plans to support remotely stored avatars, as this often results in broken links and can be a bandwith drain on other hosting companies/servers. I know a lot of users on forums that offer this host their avatar on f2s or similar and have had accounts terminated with the free hosts as a result.

[HenryG2]

I wish that colored user names feature would be included.. :(

[Wayne Luke]

Originally posted by HenryG2
I wish that colored user names feature would be included.. :(

It has already been stated that it is...

[HenryG2]

Not like I wanted it, or suggested it to be...