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  • Mr. X
    Senior Member
    • May 2001
    • 1112
    • 2.3.0

    w3.org thinks I suck and I agree.



    The last 2 designs which were boring as hell got old. I got this really cool template from oswd.org and played around with it. I am horribly inept in all things HTML, CSS you name it. But Im learning.

    I added a CSS navbar that I created from guistuff.com. Im reading more about CSS and trying to understand it some more, and hopefully I'll be able to do stuff myself soon. Im still playing around with layout and looks so as boring as it is keep in mind im still working on it. I would just like to fix errors before I go ahead and work on it further.

    In IE6.0 the page looks nice, I dont see any glaring errors minus stupid grammatical and spelling flops. But like I always goto w3.org's HTML validator to see what coding errors are there:

    W3 validator results

    As I said before, Im a total moron with HTML, so the things it tells me might as well be in swahili because I dont understand any of it. Im not really sure as to what to do. I will try to fix it to the best of my knowledge and it comes out worse than before.

    Can anyone here who knows HTML a hell of alot better than I do assist me in repairing this errors or give some advice?

    Also, can those with other browsers than IE6 take a look at the page and see if they find anything out of place? I'd be especially interested in those running Linux with browsers like Konqerour, K-Melon, Galleon etc.
    Last edited by Mr. X; Thu 6 Dec '01, 6:57pm.
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  • Sinecure
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2001
    • 1519

    #2
    bullocks to HTML!
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    • Joe Gronlund
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2001
      • 5789
      • 3.8.x

      #3
      i dont like the menu scroll..
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      • The Prohacker
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2001
        • 1212
        • 3.8.x

        #4
        1) background="tile1.gif" - The background tag isn't offically supported in HTML.

        2) <style type="text/css"> - Basicly to be all perfect your supposed to call your styles from a .css file...

        3) <script language = "javascript"> -
        I think it was wanting something like: <script language="JavaScript1.2"> not sure..

        4) <div align="justify"> - Yet another rule people never followed but is still in the standard but works no matter what.. Atleast in IE...

        My theory in life, standards are made to be broken, if it works in the browsers you see know/care about your users using.. Then don't screw with it....

        In standards: If it ain't broke, your not trying..

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        • Prolex
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2001
          • 231

          #5
          hehe I smell dreamweaver

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          • Jake Bunce
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2000
            • 46598
            • 3.6.x

            #6
            *me steels menu rollover color thingy*

            *me runs away chunkling*

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            • tubedogg
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2001
              • 13602

              #7
              Unless I am seriously blind you are missing opening <html> and <head> tags...That's probably why it doesn't like the <style> tag where it is.

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              • Tolitz
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2000
                • 1371
                • 2.3.0

                #8
                I'm just wondering ... if any of the highly-paid, super webmasters for all these e-commerce sites we are seeing .... or those who do kickass layouts and artistic websites .... ever give a damn about what W3C thinks

                Coz I'm sure I don't ... then again, that's just me ...
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                • tubedogg
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 13602

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jakeman
                  *me steels menu rollover color thingy*

                  *me runs away chunkling*
                  Chunkling? LOL

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                  • Mr. X
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2001
                    • 1112
                    • 2.3.0

                    #10
                    dont like the menu scroll..
                    The navbar or do you mean the scrollbar?

                    2) <style type="text/css"> - Basicly to be all perfect your supposed to call your styles from a .css file...
                    Would that be easier/better to do than as is?

                    *me steels menu rollover color thingy*

                    *me runs away chunkling*
                    as with most of Jakeman's posts: huh?

                    I'm just wondering ... if any of the highly-paid, super webmasters for all these e-commerce sites we are seeing .... or those who do kickass layouts and artistic websites .... ever give a damn about what W3C thinks

                    Coz I'm sure I don't ... then again, that's just me ...
                    heh. I like putting in sites that look professionally done etc just to see what w3 says and I always get a boatload of errors, but the sites seem fine to me. Personally I dont really care if it moans about something here and there unless I specifically see things out of place or butchered, specially in other browsers. Plus evertime I say something about my site theres always a few ppl who point out the errors in w3.org to me, so I wonder if I can at least fix it for once.
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                    • tubedogg
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2001
                      • 13602

                      #11
                      As I mentioned a few posts up you can probably get away with the style tag if you put in <html> and <head> tags.

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                      • Mr. X
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2001
                        • 1112
                        • 2.3.0

                        #12
                        w3 now validates it as valid HTML?

                        well I saw something called Tidy, a free program that supposedly cleans up the HTML code and makes it valid. I ran it, and w3 now validates it.

                        BUT, I have no idea which its valid for. HTML 4.01 transitional, strict, frameset etc? If I choose Transitional the page comes up with craploads of errors, but if I just paste in the URl and press validate, it says its valid. Hmm.

                        Also the CSS validator shows
                        these results

                        should I bother fixing it?
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                        • tubedogg
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 13602

                          #13
                          You probably chose 'XHTML 1.0 Transitional' instead of 'HTML 4.01 Transitional'. Using HTML 4.1 Transitional you get no errors either (the reason you get no errors either with this or not specifying a type is that you have a DOCTYPE specified in your document to use HTML 4.01).

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                          • Mr. X
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2001
                            • 1112
                            • 2.3.0

                            #14
                            I went to w3.org, pasted in the file, manually chose XHTML 1.0 Transitional and I get this result

                            Manually selecting the HTML 4.1 Transitional I get these results

                            do I need to repair the doctype? Or is my page still not valid, but that doctype is making it think valid or what? Im very confused here..
                            Last edited by Mr. X; Thu 6 Dec '01, 10:14pm.
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                            forums: pcfx.cc
                            gallery: here

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                            • Jake Bunce
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2000
                              • 46598
                              • 3.6.x

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tubedogg
                              Chunkling? LOL
                              \

                              i did a dumb! i meant chuckling.

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