vBulletin 2.2.0 Released - discuss

[John]

Chit chat away...

Please put individual support issues and questions in the relevant forums!

John

[JohnBradshaw]

Looks amazing!

[Jake Bunce]

new gobutton template for easy global customization of [Go] buttons on popup menus


for me? :D

was that you kier? :p

[Syphin]

wheeeee!! Good job... ^^


P.S: Im still waiting for my email!! grrr...
lol


-Syphin

[eva2000]

enjoy :D

REMEMBER:
BACKUP YOUR FORUMS ALWAYS BEFORE UPGRADING

[Raz Meister]

Upgrading as I type! :D

[Midgie]

John, I paid to have the original bulletin board installed on my site. How difficult will it be for me to do the upgrade?

Thanks, Midgie

[Bender]

<< downloading happily ;)

[Chris Schreiber]

Originally posted by eva2000
REMEMBER:
BACKUP YOUR FORUMS ALWAYS BEFORE UPGRADING

Very wise words :)

2.2.0 is a great release though, I've had no problems with it and the new features are just wonderful!

[Dalius]

<< ditto:D

[eva2000]

Originally posted by Midgie
John, I paid to have the original bulletin board installed on my site. How difficult will it be for me to do the upgrade?

Thanks, Midgie follow and read the instructions here and you should be fine http://vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31953

[Hooper]

Nice.... Very Nice............<<<<<Zoom>>>>>>

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by Midgie
John, I paid to have the original bulletin board installed on my site. How difficult will it be for me to do the upgrade?

Thanks, Midgie If you can upload files and point and click, you can upgrade. :) Seriously, just upload all of the files, overwriting your older files, and then in a browser go to
yoursite.com/yourforum/admin/upgradeXX.php
where XX is one of the following:
If upgrading from 2.0.3, XX is 13
If upgrading from 2.0.2, XX is 12, then run 13
If upgrading from 2.0.1, XX is 11, then run 12 and then run 13
If upgrading from 2.0.0, XX is 10, then run 11 and then run 12 and then run 13.

[Kaizen]

oh damn

now i have to reprogram my hacks !

[ethank]

OK...reintegrating markread hack as we type.......

New instructions up after I test everything :) Looks like some good stuff!

Etah

[Jon P]

Upgrading from 2.0.0 calls for upgrade10.php to be ran after all the files are uploaded. Only problem is that upgrade10.php isn't included in the zip (least it wasn't in the one I downloaded). Awaiting a new zip to finish my install...

EDIT: Looks like the ZIP has been updated. Thanks! :)

[damicatz]

I installed it but the who's online doesn't work,
http://vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=31956

[WildWayz]

Updated successfully from 2.0.3 to 2.2.0!

http://www.moose-shack.com/forums/index.php

--James

[Midgie]

That's easy for you to say, Eva. :confused:

"Upload all the files but install.php, then run the upgrade11.php script in the admin area. Then run upgrade12.php. When you are done, be sure to delete all the upgradex.php scripts. "

It's a foreign language to me. Anyone here doing upgrades?

Thanks, Midgie

[WildWayz]

Bug found already

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=31961

--James

[JamesUS]

Midgie:
Upload all the files except install.php, then enter the following URL into your browser:
http://www.yoursite.com/forums/admin/upgrade13.php
(assuming you're currently running 2.0.3).

Then follow the instructions :)


If you want to, you can pay us to do the upgrade for you; the cost is the same as an install.

[Prince]

Okay, I have never upgrded VB.

I have a question: Will the upgrade change my "default" templates?

I have changed things, such as I moved the PM info to the top of the main page. Will that get changed?

[bcstaat]

I am running 2.0.0 and the instructions on the announcement page show to run upgrade10.php and do not upload upgrade.php. I dont have either of them in my files to be uploaded.

Brad

[Midgie]

James, what was the cost for the install?

I've not even gotten around to using the board yet, but I plan on it.

When you say upload the files, I don't even know where to upload them to??? :(

Thanks

[floleb7]

i don't see a huge change between 2.0.3 and 2.2.0 but still happy when upgrade comes :D

[bcstaat]

redownloaded the upgrade and its there now

[Midgie]

James, can I just import the files to Front Page and upload them automatically from there?

Front Page does everything for me, so I've never uploaded to the server myself.

Thanks again

[Hooper]

Originally posted by Midgie
James, can I just import the files to Front Page and upload them automatically from there?

Front Page does everything for me, so I've never uploaded to the server myself.

Thanks again

NO! :o. You do not want to use FrontPage for this. If all possible use FTP or something of that nature. If you cannot do the upgrade yourself at this point, I would leave my forums alone for the moment. I would wait until things calm down around here and see if you can get some installation help. It's pretty busy in here right now, so please be patient. It's worth the wait. :D

[Prince]

Originally posted by Midgie
James, can I just import the files to Front Page and upload them automatically from there?

Front Page does everything for me, so I've never uploaded to the server myself.

Thanks again

using a ftp program is much easier! :)

[Prince]

Okay, I have never upgrded VB.

I have a question: Will the upgrade change my "default" templates?

I have changed things, such as I moved the PM info to the top of the main page. Will that get changed?

[floleb7]

all modify templates will stay the same only default template will be upgrade


however you will have to revert few templates for use new fonction

[Midgie]

Thanks guys. I suppose there's no better time than now than figure this out. I just have to figure out what url I'm uploading to.

[Hooper]

Originally posted by Prince
Okay, I have never upgrded VB.

I have a question: Will the upgrade change my "default" templates?

I have changed things, such as I moved the PM info to the top of the main page. Will that get changed?

Yes. Backup all your changed templates to .txt files. Then revert your templates to original after installation of 2.2.0.

BACKUP YOUR WORK BEFORE INSTALLATIONS! This can never be stressed enough.

[Prince]

Originally posted by Hooper

Yes. Backup all your changed templates to .txt files. Then revert your templates to original after installation of 2.2.0.


How do you back-up your templates to .txt files, and what do you do with these .txt files?

[eva2000]

Originally posted by Prince


How do you back-up your templates to .txt files, and what do you do with these .txt files? good old.. copy and paste ;)

[Prince]

Originally posted by eva2000
good old.. copy and paste ;)

okay, then after the upgrade I have to go back and copy & paste them to get my templates back to how I changed them before the upgrade?

[Hooper]

Originally posted by eva2000
good old.. copy and paste ;)

Absolutely.....


Go to the template.. Copy the code into notepad... Copy the name of the template right out the top of the CP into the notepad name. Save it. It will save YOU! :D

[Hooper]

Originally posted by Prince


okay, then after the upgrade I have to go back and copy & paste them to get my templates back to how I changed them before the upgrade?

NO! Then you will have restored your altered template. The backup text file is for seeing what the differences are within the templates. John announces the changed templates upon release of a new version. You will then find the changes and restore your forum site via the differences in templates.

[surfdude]

Upgraded without any problems. Let's play...

[indiamike]

Okay basic question on the upgrade. Since I modified all my images I know not to upload the images. I assume this is true is the style sheets page also. Since I don't wan't to revert back to the old style.
Question is, what other parts should I not upload (install.php of course).

Mike

[Midgie]

I have 2.0.1 so do I download php(default) extensions or php3?

Thanks

[Prince]

So, if I do not have any templates modified that are in "the changed templates list", I do not have anything to worry about?

[Brian Cruz]

The instructions say to upload all files... does this include the images?

[Hooper]

Originally posted by Midgie
I have 2.0.1 so do I download php(default) extensions or php3?

Thanks


Midgie,

Again, everyone is quite busy right now with the new release just being put out. If your server uses .php3 extensions you will download that file. If your server uses .php you will download that file.

It does require a basic knowledge of server administration to perform an upgrade. We are all here to help you, but this needs to be taken to the appropriate installation and help forum.

Installation Help (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=39)

Best Wishes.

[scotty]

Originally posted by Midgie
I have 2.0.1 so do I download php(default) extensions or php3?
Thanks

that depends on your server/host...

...wether the extension for PHP is *.php or php3.

that has nothing to do with the version of your vB

[neogeniseva]

PRAISE THE LORD:D

[N.B.]

Downloaded, Updated ..
No problem apeard !

v.2.2.0 is working very fine ! :)
thx for another great release ...

[Hooper]

Originally posted by Brian Cruz
The instructions say to upload all files... does this include the images?

You are welcome to upload the images if you have none that are altered on your server. Use Binary (not .txt /ascii/etc/) for transmission. The images will overwrite those you have on your server.

[Prince]

How can everyone be upgrading?

Don't you have active users on your boards?

It's almost 4pm here, and I would have to cut off 18 people to upgrade.

[Hooper]

Originally posted by Prince
How can everyone be upgrading?

Don't you have active users on your boards?

It's almost 4pm here, and I would have to cut off 18 people to upgrade.


Go to your Admin Panel under Open or Shutdown board. Under general I believe. Make the message read somthing on the order of Updating "yoursite" please come back in an hour, a few minutes or what have you. This will allow you the time you need.

[Prince]

Originally posted by Hooper

Go to your Admin Panel under Open or Shutdown board. Under general I believe. Make the message read somthing on the order of Updating "yoursite" please come back in an hour, a few minutes or what have you. This will allow you the time you need.

I know I can shut it down, but my point was why cut everyone off?

I would rather wait until later tonight when there are only a couple of users on.

[Hooper]

Originally posted by Prince


I know I can shut it down, but my point was why cut everyone off?

I would rather wait until later tonight when there are only a couple of users on.

Sounds good to me. ;)

[Steve_S]

Hi Prince


Many folks just have your board loaded and aren't using it.

Most upgrades take less than 5 minutes if you just want to use your current templates which are not overwritten or changed.

1) Back up your db and styles FIRST

2) Close the BB

3) Upgrade as per the instructions

4) Take a quick spin through your board as admin and make a test post

5) Open the BB and have fun

Some of your members won't even notice. Note: this procedure does NOT include editing your templates and or applying hacks.

Good luck :)

[Mika]

Can someone explain these:
- getnew/getdaily per forum
- In-reply rating
- Who voted
What and where?

[Hooper]

Originally posted by Steve_S
Some of your members won't even notice. Note: this procedure does NOT include editing your templates and or applying hacks.

Good luck :)

Exactly,

With 87 changed templates, a hack or so, custom integrated news scripting, and so on..... The installation can take 5 minutes for a standard installation to maybe hours or so in my case.

I rather dread the upgrade although I appreciate it being here. :D

[Glitch]

Anyone click on forum leaders link on main page yet...?



Warning: Undefined variable: REQUEST_URI in D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\bb\global.php on line 60

Warning: Undefined variable: PATH_INFO in D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\bb\global.php on line 62

Warning: Undefined index: HTTP_POST_VARS in D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\bb\global.php on line 85

Warning: Undefined index: action in D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\bb\global.php on line 85

Warning: Undefined index: action in D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\bb\global.php on line 88



:(

Glitch

[etones]

Glitch, forum leaders is working fine for me.

[Hooper]

Originally posted by Glitch
Anyone click on forum leaders link on main page yet...?
:(

Glitch
A small secret..... That's why I wait 2 or 3 hours before I upgrade.

BUGS!:D

Let someone else find them. :D

I don't think this is a bug though. You are running a local server. Probably something wrong with the path somewhere.

[cihangir]

forumdisplay - link for 'mark forum as read' and 'search this forum' section

mark forum as read is not displayed by me, can it be that another template must be reverted to orginal,too?

http://www.zoque.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=13

"Sýk kullananlara ekle" means add to bookmarks.

// update: forumdisplay_newthreadlink template must be reverted to original for "mark this thread" :rolleyes:

[Steve_S]

Originally posted by Hooper


Exactly,

With 87 changed templates, a hack or so, custom integrated news scripting, and so on..... The installation can take 5 minutes for a standard installation to maybe hours or so in my case.

I rather dread the upgrade although I appreciate it being here. :D

amen :)

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by Hooper
With 87 changed templates, a hack or so, custom integrated news scripting, and so on..... The installation can take 5 minutes for a standard installation to maybe hours or so in my case.~325 custom templates, about 40 complete hacks (some of which I haven't even documented :eek: )...It's gonna take me a week.

[Mac Write]

Anyone who wants help to upgrade there board, or install it fresh, PM me.

All I ask, is if you found my service helpful, you decide what I am worth and can pay me via paypal if you choose to pay me. paying me to help you is not required.

[Hooper]

Originally posted by tubedogg
~325 custom templates, about 40 complete hacks (some of which I haven't even documented :eek: )...It's gonna take me a week.


Ha, Lol. A week for an upgrade. Poor Tube. :D
All I can say is you should have documented those hacks!

[Hooper]

Originally posted by cihangir


mark forum as read is not displayed by me, can it be that another template must be reverted to orginal,too?

http://www.zoque.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=13

"Sýk kullananlara ekle" means add to bookmarks.

// update: forumdisplay_newthreadlink template must be reverted to original for "mark this thread" :rolleyes:

THis may be a browser problem. Try clearing you history and cookie cache. Reboot and try again.

[klisis]

Smooth upgrade. I will have to revert a few templates to see some changes though. Now I see there is password encrypt feature, I hope this feature will calm down some people concerning secrity.

[Syphin]

Installed great... ^^ Got most hacks back up and running, All i need is that damn avatar catagory hack made compatible for 2.2.0... >_<

But ya, works great... ^^

-Syphin

[dscollon]

No problems here. Took all of about 10 minutes (feeling pretty slow tonight) and all I've had to do is fix the bug mentioned earlier in online.php

[Devices]

Did not go so well for me :(

It installed ok but after it did the pages took ages to load.
Even with the board closed and no one on there it took some 30 - 40 seconds or more before any page was displayed.

I had to go back to my 2.03 backup and now its flying again.

Very strange.
:mad:

[tril0Byte]

Just installed 2.2 - absolutely no problems at all. One question though, I tried out the default style that comes with it - utagrey - but don't have the graphics, where can I find them?

Cheers :)

Great software BTW :)

EDIT:
Scratch that - I screwed up with a 3rd party style set I downloaded - doof, newbies huh :D

[Hooper]

MY VOICE WAS HEARD! MY VOICE WAS HEARD! :D MY VOICE WAS HEARD!

My Voice (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31178)

Thanks Team!

[FWC]

Beyond Compare rules! I downoaded my hacked PHP files, figured out what was changed and hacked the 2.2 files before uploading. That took a little time. But, it made the uipgrade go like I was using an unmodified board. i still have a few templates to remod, but the upgrade took me about 5 minutes worth of my board being down. :D

[freehtml]

damn I am still waiting for Digibuy to email me my license numbers and password......can't wait any longer:mad:

[mrlister]

2 words: THANK YOU! now i can finally upgrade to it

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by FWC
Beyond Compare rules! I downoaded my hacked PHP files, figured out what was changed and hacked the 2.2 files before uploading. That took a little time. But, it made the uipgrade go like I was using an unmodified board. i still have a few templates to remod, but the upgrade took me about 5 minutes worth of my board being down. :D You know what rules even more? Araxis Merge. :D Its $$ but it's definitely worth it. http://www.araxis.com/

[NYI Fan]

I am totally psyched about the upgrade, but I am also nervous about applying it...

I have no trouble uploading everything or invokng the upgrade
script, I' mjust apprehensive about reapplying all my hacks etc... Plus, I am admittedly a php/mysql doofus, so I am hoping there will be no need to do anyting with the backup I'll create before starting (I can make a back up, but, well, um, reverting to it??? Let's just hope for the best ;) )

I think I'm gonna wait for Saturday night - late - so I can close the boards as long as I need to (its a recipe board, i have very little traffic in the late hours)

Plus, that will give you all time to find the "quirks" :D Sounds like you did a terrific job - I can't wait to play 1st hand!

[jucs]

Disappointing. Lots of great hacks out there that could have been incorporated fairly easily as features I would suspect.

And, the top of the admin panel frame wording is even covered up. I am using IE 5.5.

[Hooper]

Originally posted by jucs
Disappointing. Lots of great hacks out there that could have been incorporated fairly easily as features I would suspect.

And, the top of the admin panel frame wording is even covered up. I am using IE 5.5.

I see where you are coming from, but I must mention a word of caution to you on adding to many hacks to vBulletin. There is a fine line to be walked in terms of functionality and wishes and usually ends up being based on code bloat. Fact is, if all the hacks everyone wanted were added, we would see vBulletin slow down to a bloatfull crawl. I am just happy to see small administration hacks that add functionality without bloating the software. :D


Code gets bloated easily. Add this, add that, before too long functionality becomes second to frills. I like the decisions being made as to what functions are added. Smart on the part of the Dev team.

[FWC]

Originally posted by tubedogg
You know what rules even more? Araxis Merge. :D Its $$ but it's definitely worth it. http://www.araxis.com/ LOL! I looked at it, but I just dropped $$ for XP Professional. I'll look at Merge again in a while. :)

[dvdtalk]

Posted the Upgrade on our forum: http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum

Went off without a hitch. I did do a database repair after the upgrade which seemed to speed things up. Upgrading is always a good excuse to do Database maintanence.

[fury]

The Who's online page shows everyone as being in an unknown location now. I'm pretty certain I uploaded all the files correctly.

[SteppenWolf]

In global.php

// version numbers:
$codeversionnumber="2.0.4";

:D :D :D

[DarkReaper]

Ugh...I've dreaded the release of this, even though its sweet...

How should I go about re-hacking my forums? I've got about 20 hacks installed...should I "hack" the files to make them have the 2.2.0 code? Or should I overwrite everything and re-hack it all?

[Hooper]

Originally posted by DarkReaper
Ugh...I've dreaded the release of this, even though its sweet...

How should I go about re-hacking my forums? I've got about 20 hacks installed...should I "hack" the files to make them have the 2.2.0 code? Or should I overwrite everything and re-hack it all?
Hi Reaper,

1) Backup db and template changes
2) Install new ver.
3) revert necessary templates
4) rehack.

There isn't a better way. ;)

[Hooper]

Originally posted by SteppenWolf
In global.php

// version numbers:
$codeversionnumber="2.0.4";

:D :D :D

Lol...OOPS! :D

[ethank]

Finished my upgrade, but I was mildly peeved to see that postbit was not included in the changed template listing. Are there any others missing?

[Hooper]

Originally posted by ethank
Finished my upgrade, but I was mildly peeved to see that postbit was not included in the changed template listing. Are there any others missing?

Uh, not good. What was changed in postbit?

I'm right in the middle of redoing all of my templates now. This would be a real good time to find out if there are any missing on John's list.

[ethank]

Originally posted by Hooper


Uh, not good. What was changed in postbit?

Just where the online indicator is, not much, but I'm not happy about it being forgotten.

Ethan

[Hooper]

Maybe someone will respond to this. If it's just the PostBit template missing, they can add it to the list later. But I use John's list to redo my templates. So if anything is missing it could pose a small problem.

[Nmare]

upgraded to 2.2.0 with no problem, woohoo!

[ethank]

Originally posted by Hooper
Maybe someone will respond to this. If it's just the PostBit template missing, they can add it to the list later. But I use John's list to redo my templates. So if anything is missing it could pose a small problem.

Yuppers, thats my concern.

Ethan

[c0bra]

Originally posted by Hooper
Maybe someone will respond to this. If it's just the PostBit template missing, they can add it to the list later. But I use John's list to redo my templates. So if anything is missing it could pose a small problem.

Same here! :(

Anyway thank's for pointing that out guys, hopefully no other template changes are missing... update went swimmingly.

[Hooper]

Searchresults and searchresults_threadonly has been changed also.

[ethank]

Originally posted by Hooper
Searchresults and searchresults_threadonly has been changed also.

That they were. I just diffed them. This is getting troublesome. I hadn't changed these two templates, but if its now up to 3 that were not documented as being changed......

Guess I'm not uploading tonight :)

Ethan

[Hooper]

Originally posted by ethank


That they were. I just diffed them. This is getting troublesome. I hadn't changed these two templates, but if its now up to 3 that were not documented as being changed......

Guess I'm not uploading tonight :)

Ethan

I think there are some more undocumented changes. I have templates linked to different $commands and some I haven't been able to get to work yet. For sure there are 3 now. I hope John realizes how important it is for his list to be accurate. ;)

[FWC]

Originally posted by Hooper
Searchresults and searchresults_threadonly has been changed also. Those have been on the list of changed templates since the beginning.

[Hooper]

Oh I see,

They were not inline to go downward but went across. Missed that. My mistake on that one. Thanks for pointing that out. Back to 1.

Which template holds the code for the new Admin/moderator bold italic changes? Am I missing this too? I may just be going cross eyed.

Enhancement..

Ability to enable highlighting of Admin/Moderator names on the Logged in Users and Who's Online.

But I need the font changed.

[FWC]

Originally posted by Hooper
Oh I see,

They were not inline to go downward but went across. Missed that. My mistake on that one. Thanks for pointing that out. Back to 1. LOL! You had me worried. I remembered seeing those when I was reading the announcement. Then I thought I must be imagining things. I had to go back and check. :)

[Freddie Bingham]

Originally posted by Hooper
Oh I see,

They were not inline to go downward but went across. Missed that. My mistake on that one. Thanks for pointing that out. Back to 1.

Which template holds the code for the new Admin/moderator bold italic changes? Am I missing this too? I may just be going cross eyed.

Enhancement..

Ability to enable highlighting of Admin/Moderator names on the Logged in Users and Who's Online.

But I need the font changed. You have to modify online.php and index.php or disable it and it reverts to what it looked like in 2.0.3. In v3.0 I will make it something you can specify per usergroup but for now that is the way it is :)

[Hooper]

Originally posted by freddie
You have to modify online.php and index.php or disable it and it reverts to what it looked like in 2.0.3. In v3.0 I will make it something you can specify per usergroup but for now that is the way it is :)


Ah I see, Thanks Freddie. I went ahead and disabled it. I like it but I really need to change the font, etc.. for it to look good on my board. That will be a nice enhancement when it gets a mod or so done to it.

Thanks for replying.

[boatdesign]

What happens if you update vBulletin to the most recent version but do not go though and revert and then reupdate your templates one by one? Which templates are optional to add new features and which are mandatory (templates that will break or will break something when the version is updated if you don't revert to default -> reapply all formatting which I see is pretty time consuming)?

Thanks.

[Hooper]

Originally posted by boatdesign
What happens if you update vBulletin to the most recent version but do not go though and revert and then reupdate your templates one by one? Which templates are optional to add new features and which are mandatory (templates that will break or will break something when the version is updated if you don't revert to default -> reapply all formatting which I see is pretty time consuming)?

Thanks.

Template Changes (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31953)

No easy way. If you don't revert the templates, you may be missing some features and often tables don't seem to align. The only templates you worry about are those that you have altered. It is time consuming, but I have tried to take the easy way out with past upgrades and found that I ended up having to revert them anyhow.

I have 87 changed templates. So I just start off reverting them to default after upgrade. Upon reverting, I simply check the differences in code and apply the changes to my backed up templates. This is why I find it very nice to save all modified templates to both .txt and now a private forum with step by step instructions I write for myself to assure that I end up not missing anything. Super for hack instructions as well. I forget who told me about the later, but it is a super idea.

If there is a better way to re-establish a newly updated community, someone please post it. But from day one, I was given the instructions to revert modified templates to original when I had an error or problem and it always seemed to correct the problem. So anymore, I just start off by doing the reverting. At this point I am hours into it an on (around) template 36. So you can see this will take me some time to get it the way I like. Kevin (TubeDogg) mentioned earlier that he had over 2 hundred changed templates. He said it would take a week to fully update his site. I believe it. Welp... Back to it. It's an all nighter! :D

My next idea for an improvement......

The all in wonder "Template Sipher". It looks at the old, compares it with the new, you copy your old into the CP window by clicking the "add old template code here button" and presto.... It fused the templates and changes into one cool error free template.

Now I know I'm delerious. Lol....

[Jake Bunce]

new usergroup permission: can download attachment


excellent. this can be a means to control people using post attachments for external linking.

[boatdesign]

No easy way. If you don't revert the templates, you may be missing some features and often tables don't seem to align. The only templates you worry about are those that you have altered. It is time consuming, but I have tried to take the easy way out with past upgrades and found that I ended up having to revert them anyhow.

Yikes! I've spent a lot of time tweaking and simplfying the templates and I don't mind not having the new features. But I would like the security updates and any bug fixes.

Can you explain a bit further when you say "often tables don't seem to align"? How do the templates relate to the upgraded script in a way which would make (html?) tables not seem to align?

I'm not as well versed in the vBulletin template structure as probably everyone else here, so little changes seem to take me a while. But I do think that it would be very helpful to:

1.) Separate feature additions from security and bug fixes, so you can apply security and bug fixes without having to completely redo all your templates.

2.) Note which features require which templates to be changed, and which templates must be changed to prevent formatting problems/functional bugs with the upgrade. I can't imagine that all those templtates in John's list must be changed (to not have problems) - some of those must be just to add the option of using the new features, but would still work (without any added features, but with just the old functionallity) if not reverted, right?

[Hooper]

Originally posted by boatdesign


Yikes! I've spent a lot of time tweaking and simplfying the templates and I don't mind not having the new features. But I would like the security updates and any bug fixes.

Can you explain a bit further when you say "often tables don't seem to align"? How do the templates relate to the upgraded script in a way which would make (html?) tables not seem to align?

I'm not as well versed in the vBulletin template structure as probably everyone else here, so little changes seem to take me a while. But I do think that it would be very helpful to:

1.) Separate feature additions from security and bug fixes, so you can apply security and bug fixes without having to completely redo all your templates.

2.) Note which features require which templates to be changed, and which templates must be changed to prevent formatting problems/functional bugs with the upgrade. I can't imagine that all those templtates in John's list must be changed (to not have problems) - some of those must be just to add the option of using the new features, but would still work (without any added features, but with just the old functionallity) if not reverted, right?


You are asking for quit abit. I'll help with what I can.

The tables I am talking about not aligning sometimes are that of the html tables. Click on forum and the tables being a bit lower or higher than the previous or next pages. Go into the thread and they are back up or lower than previously. You have to remember that I am comparing altered html tables to the default.

1) Security and bug fixes are not as much associated with template changes as the php code itself. The two are pretty much seperated by this fact. You most likely will not open up a bunch of security holes by not reverting templates. Possible but not real likely. Most security holes are situated within the code. Say the showthread.php for example not that that file has or had any security problems.

2) Well, you can familiarize yourself with new features by reading the above link. For example the new "Forum Leaders" code. The templates are new so there are no worries. However, If you don't revert some of the templates that are affected by this new code, then the showgroups link will not obviously be there. Will this create a security hole? Well no. But the new functionality will not be there either.

Obviously Jelsoft will not write a long essay on the security holes if one arises nor are they going to publish what the hole may be here at vBulletin. So seperating what fixes what security issue is not the way to go about it. They simply fix the code and you upload it.

I do everything by viewing it. If I am on the forum home and click to a forum in a subcatagory and have more space before the footer than the forumhome, most likely I hadn't reverted a template. Revert it and it took a long forgotton <br> I must have installed a while back to get some look I wanted.

As I say, If you have a certain look and feel you work hard at getting, you can plan on working at it when you upgrade your software. The best way to have an idea of what to change and what not to change is to thoroughly review John's release post. I base most of what I change and not change off of this. If something is still wrong after doing the work, I then post on it as I did with the above thread on the changes to the new bold and italic admin/mod links. Freddie responded quickly.

Try not to get template changes and program code confused.
The way I always think about this topic is to say that just because I do a fine job with graphics and html doesn't make me a programmer. HA .....:D

Well that's all I can think of to share with you.

Best Wishes,

[boatdesign]

The tables I am talking about not aligning sometimes are that of the html tables. Click on forum and the tables being a bit lower or higher than the previous or next pages. Go into the thread and they are back up or lower than previously. You have to remember that I am comparing altered html tables to the default.

OK thanks. So it sounds like if I apply the upgrade but do not revert any templates there will only be very minor aesthetic glitches which most people wouldn't even notice. at least nothing will "fall apart" html or function wise if I don't revert the templates.

Re: #1, right, but if they were seperate you could apply the security / bug fix without spending any time changing any templates. Then when you had lots of free time you could apply the feature update and revert/update the templates to corresond.

Re #2 I still don't understand exactly why html/layout glitches would occur and it would be helpful to document exactly which templates will be functionally altered by the upgrade (like links to features no longer available, or html code which will no longer be parsed correctly by the program) and which may be altered at my convenience to take advantage of new functionallity.

To just go and revert and reapply all my changes to all those templates seems like quite a bit of work for a small upgrade (from my perspective, since I don't need any of the new features yet).

But if I update the program and don't revert and reapply all my template changes I'm afraid that I won't catch potential bugs which my users will then encounter....

[Syphin]

hasnt even been 12 hours, and ive found pirated versions posted on msg boards... >_< jeez... lol

Anyways... Im happy with this release.. ^^ Ive got all my hacks working again... ^^
Had to manualy change some.. but there working... ^^



-Syphin

[boatdesign]

Try not to get template changes and program code confused.
The way I always think about this topic is to say that just because I do a fine job with graphics and html doesn't make me a programmer.

I guess that's exactly my problem. I'm mainly involved with graphics/layout and just a little with scripting. I'm comfortable with perl where the program is one file which then parses a template text file and inserts bits of output or gathers bits of input from a few key fields. I have not yet gotten myself up to speed with PHP which intermingles code and templates to a far greater degree it would seem, and vBulletin is complex enough that I'm still not sure exactly what's where.

-When an update occurs is all the "functional code" in the php files which reside in the /forums directory? Or are there dependencies on some of the code in the template files which are stored in the mySQL database? (rather than just "links" to routines in the /forums/php files which if not updated will not allow users to see those functions?)

-and are there ever changes which might make some major things show up as missing or misformatted if you update without reverting the templates, or ... ? An example might be if currently the showthreaded.php script (or another) calles template-a and template-b but with the update everything is in template-a, so if I update the scripts and don't update all the templates I might be misssing half of the 'template information' from some area which might not be immediately noticable.

--thinking out loud...

[Hooper]

Originally posted by boatdesign


OK thanks. So it sounds like if I apply the upgrade but do not revert any templates there will only be very minor aesthetic glitches which most people wouldn't even notice. at least nothing will "fall apart" html or function wise if I don't revert the templates.

Re: #1, right, but if they were seperate you could apply the security / bug fix without spending any time changing any templates. Then when you had lots of free time you could apply the feature update and revert/update the templates to corresond.

Re #2 I still don't understand exactly why html/layout glitches would occur and it would be helpful to document exactly which templates will be functionally altered by the upgrade (like links to features no longer available, or html code which will no longer be parsed correctly by the program) and which may be altered at my convenience to take advantage of new functionallity.

To just go and revert and reapply all my changes to all those templates seems like quite a bit of work for a small upgrade (from my perspective, since I don't need any of the new features yet).

But if I update the program and don't revert and reapply all my template changes I'm afraid that I won't catch potential bugs which my users will then encounter....


"OK thanks. So it sounds like if I apply the upgrade but do not revert any templates there will only be very minor aesthetic glitches which most people wouldn't even notice. at least nothing will "fall apart" html or function wise if I don't revert the templates."

Answer: I didn't say that. You may have more than aesthetic problems depending upon the changes you made to the previous default template. Nothing will fall apart, a link to a function may not be there in which of course the new function would be useless as given in the example above.

"Re #2 I still don't understand exactly why html/layout glitches would occur and it would be helpful to document exactly which templates will be functionally altered by the upgrade (like links to features no longer available, or html code which will no longer be parsed correctly by the program) and which may be altered at my convenience to take advantage of new functionallity."

Answer: Again, the documented changes would be made on your end and originates from the templates you have changed previously. For example, If you altered the forumdisplay and added a <br> right after the $header, you would then want to add the <br> back to the default template. Correct? We are not comparing previous default template to the current default template. We are comparing altered templates to the "new" default template.

Again, just not reverting templates can pose problems based upon what the upgrade consists of along with the changes you had already made to the default template.

Another hint of wisdom. Don't worry. Just click on sh*t till it breaks. If you see something here at vBulletin in a week that you don't have on your site, odds are you would if you reverted the appropriate templates. Easy enough.

Cheers! ;)

[Marc Smith]

Originally posted by damicatz
I installed it but the who's online doesn't work,
http://vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=31956 I did the install and this is now happening:

In my 'Online Users' display, I'm now seeing this:

Marc Unknown Location: /Forums/forumdisplay.php?&forumid=23

for each user instead of it resolving like this:

Marc The Cayman Cove Forums Main Index

Any ideas where I've gone wrong? The upgrade appeared to go smooth - 2.0.3 to 2.2.0. No errors at all.

In addition, it would have been nice to have some warning about the templates issue. The instructions said:

> Changed Templates
>
> Note: Upgrading will not overwrite any of your custom
> templates.

This wording leads one to believe one will not have to go back and revert each and every 'customized' template and re-do each one.

I also didn't see this:

> server load and number of online users appear in the admin
> CP
and a couple otherf new features. I guess it's the templates issue.

Oh, well...

[Hooper]

Originally posted by Marc Smith
I did the install and this is now happening:

In my 'Online Users' display, I'm now seeing this:

Marc Unknown Location: /Forums/forumdisplay.php?&forumid=23

for each user instead of it resolving like this:

Marc The Cayman Cove Forums Main Index

Any ideas where I've gone wrong? The upgrade appeared to go smooth - 2.0.3 to 2.2.0. No errors at all.


Hi Marc,

I seen a thread on this. Not sure what it was. Sit tight, hopefully someone will respond to this.

For the life of me I can't remember what they said caused this. Sorry.

[Marc Smith]

I have to hit the bed. Gotta see a client tomorrow. The bsics appear to be working OK. We'll see what happens in the mean time. I figured I should have waited a few days to see what problems people were having before upgrading. I goofed.

[certify]

I'll upgrade tomorrow..

[Pilot]

When you say "upload all files" - do you mean the PHP files only?

Is there any reason to re-upload the GIFs and other files?

Also - do you FTP the PHP files as ASCII or BINARY?

These are important details. I think you should spell them out.

[Hooper]

Originally posted by boatdesign


I guess that's exactly my problem. I'm mainly involved with graphics/layout and just a little with scripting. I'm comfortable with perl where the program is one file which then parses a template text file and inserts bits of output or gathers bits of input from a few key fields. I have not yet gotten myself up to speed with PHP which intermingles code and templates to a far greater degree it would seem, and vBulletin is complex enough that I'm still not sure exactly what's where.

-When an update occurs is all the "functional code" in the php files which reside in the /forums directory? Or are there dependencies on some of the code in the template files which are stored in the mySQL database? (rather than just "links" to routines in the /forums/php files which if not updated will not allow users to see those functions?)

-and are there ever changes which might make some major things show up as missing or misformatted if you update without reverting the templates, or ... ? An example might be if currently the showthreaded.php script (or another) calles template-a and template-b but with the update everything is in template-a, so if I update the scripts and don't update all the templates I might be misssing half of the 'template information' from some area which might not be immediately noticable.

--thinking out loud...

1) Functional code is stored within the php files. Structure (tables) for the most part is stored within the database along with post, template etc... information and the like. The links within the stored templates call data from the db by way of the php program files.

Don't nail me to this but this is the way I understand it.

2) This will most likely never happen unless the vBull dev team decides to change the default templates altogether. You alter the templates for the most part. The alterations vs. updated $commands are the items to look for. From what I gather reading your question you are wondering if a big chunk of html would be missing with a larger updated default template. Well no, you will see what you had on your altered template just as you did before.

I guess that made sense. Now I'm getting confused. :rolleyes: :)

[Hooper]

Originally posted by Pilot
When you say "upload all files" - do you mean the PHP files only?

Is there any reason to re-upload the GIFs and other files?

Also - do you FTP the PHP files as ASCII or BINARY?

These are important details. I think you should spell them out.

Many argue that uploading php files in binary is an alright practice. I am from the old school. .Txt type files (including PHP) go in ascii and pictures and archives (zips for example) go in binary. That's how I do it anyhow.
No real reason to upload new images unless you want to overwrite the existing ones. I didn't. I had too many altered images. I would however upload "ALL" php files including the (mod) directory and the like.

[ethank]

Is Jelsoft going to address any missing template changes in the changelog?

EThan

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by FWC
Those have been on the list of changed templates since the beginning.

[Hooper]

Originally posted by ethank
Is Jelsoft going to address any missing template changes in the changelog?

EThan

The only missing template change is the one mentioned. PostBit. The two I thought were missing were listed horizontally not vertically.

[ethank]

I missed the search one :o

I just want to make sure I'm deploying with all template changes implemented. Since postbit was missed (and it was obvious enough to catch, so I don't see why they didn't put it in the change log), I want assurance that all the other changes are accounted for,

EThan

[Hooper]

Originally posted by ethank
I missed the search one :o

I just want to make sure I'm deploying with all template changes implemented. Since postbit was missed (and it was obvious enough to catch, so I don't see why they didn't put it in the change log), I want assurance that all the other changes are accounted for,

EThan


I haven't found any others up to this point anyhow. :cool:

[cdcopyworld]

i upgraded and it all went well!

the forums even seem faster loading!:)

[Alkaren Hyralt]

Awsome, very awsome. :)

[tubedogg]

I'm not convinced that was moved intentionally.

[Hooper]

Originally posted by tubedogg
I'm not convinced that was moved intentionally.

:confused:

[tubedogg]

I meant $onlinestatus in postbit. That's probably why it didn't make the list was it was inadvertantly moved.

[Hooper]

Ah ok. I thought you were tired and talking to yourself. :D

[tubedogg]

Yes, well, that's probably correct too, but in this case...;)

[Hooper]

Originally posted by tubedogg
Yes, well, that's probably correct too, but in this case...;)

We need a smiley with blood shot eyes for us late nighters. Then maybe no one would take these posts seriously at all. They would know we were delerious. In fact, the name of the smiley would be delerious.


Oh god here I go again. Lol.

[Martz]

Ummmm, is it just me.. but where is there "Users current browsing this forum.." thing? I reventered by templates, but no joy. I added a brand new style set, and ti still doesn't appear. Has this actually been fully released in 2.2.0?? :confused:

[Hooper]

Originally posted by Martz
Ummmm, is it just me.. but where is there "Users current browsing this forum.." thing? I reventered by templates, but no joy. I added a brand new style set, and ti still doesn't appear. Has this actually been fully released in 2.2.0?? :confused:

I just figured this out. It is a cookie thangy. Set in the forum for a sec and refresh the page. It will then show up. We most likely don't have something set right. At this point I don't doubt it.

[Martz]

hrmm, I looked at: if ($browsers) {
if (!$moderatedby) {
$onlineusers = "<br>";
}
eval("\$onlineusers .= \"".gettemplate('forumdisplay_loggedinusers')."\";");
} in forumdisplay.php

If I (an admin, but technically a moderator) was viewing this on my own without any other people present - it would result in just a <BR> - yes?

Which is why I dont see myself? :confused:

[Hooper]

Originally posted by Martz
hrmm, I looked at: if ($browsers) {
if (!$moderatedby) {
$onlineusers = "<br>";
}
eval("\$onlineusers .= \"".gettemplate('forumdisplay_loggedinusers')."\";");
} in forumdisplay.php

If I (an admin, but technically a moderator) was viewing this on my own without any other people present - it would result in just a <BR> - yes?

Which is why I dont see myself? :confused:

Did you try the above? I'm having to refresh the page to show up. Much like the Who's online.

[Martz]

I'll only know when I open the forums up :)

[jucs]

I have about 4 I changed. I see nowhere in the instructions that says I have to revert and then make changes again?!

Did I miss something in the instructions for upgrade?

[Hooper]

Originally posted by jucs
I have about 4 I changed. I see nowhere in the instructions that says I have to revert and then make changes again?!

Did I miss something in the instructions for upgrade?

You may not have to. It's your call. Just check your altered templates against John's list to see if there are any changes that would require a revert of templates. A template that has been changed that has a new command "$" or call to the db for something. You most likely won't have to revert any templates that don't have any new information to pull from the db if you don't want to. If there are new "$" and you don't fix your templates to show them, you just won't have the new function.

For more information. Go back a page or two and read some of my bloated posts that make no sense. ;)

I'm going to bed.

[Martz]

Ahhh, seems to work with 2 invisible administrators browsing. But doesn't show anything if its only me.

[Hooper]

Why is it set to invisibility? As I say, I show up but not as invisible and only if I refresh the page. Going one page to the next shows nothing until I refresh. I think both of our problems may be our userCP settings.

[Hooper]

It's not the auto logon setting or the browse the board with cookie setting either. I still have to refresh the page for it to show that I am browsing within a forum.

I'm way to tired to spend another moment on this. I'm going to bed. We'll get it worked out. ;)

[Martz]

Hrmm, i'll test it some more and a few tweaks.

Another thing, if you do a search in the templates Admin CP for a keyword, like $online or something similar, the results used to show a list of the respective templates and sub templates that match.

Now I just get a list of which template set they are in - which isn't much use at all.

[Martz]

Originally posted by Hooper
I'm going to bed. We'll get it worked out. ;)

Good night :)

[orca]

I installed it today and there were no problems yet. Even with using vbPortal :). Great work again :)

[Marc Smith]

Is your online users display working OK?

In my 'Online Usaers' display, I'm now seeing this:

Marc Unknown Location: /Forums/forumdisplay.php?&forumid=23

Instead of it resolving like this:

Marc The Cayman Cove Forums Main Index

Any ideas where I've gone wrong? The upgrade appeared to go smooth. No errors at all.

I posted this in another forum: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=32062

I got one response to that post saying there's a bug there that they're working on. Other than that, everything seems to work OK. I'll be looking at templates tonight. Gotta meet a client.

[TommyBALL]

Thanks again for a great release guys!

:D
- Tommy

[Black Tiger]

Thanks, great release!

Just pity with such a major release update you still did not implement Tubedog's starhack though.
Hope that one really get's in the next time.

[RCK]

Originally posted by Mika
Can someone explain these:
- getnew/getdaily per forum
- In-reply rating
- Who voted
What and where?

I'm also interesting into the getnew/getdaily per forum ...
I can't see any link ! How it works ?

[tril0Byte]

Anyone else seen this.

After installing 2.2, cant close a thread. The thread displays the closed button, but clicking on it takes you to the normal post reply screen, which gets submitted and added to the thread in the normal way. In this (http://www.synobyte.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31) thread, the last 4 posts were made AFTER the thread was closed. Although - the poats were made by 2 ppl both with admin level access. Is this a feature or a bug? Anyone else seen it?

[wacnstac]

Has this been fixed in 2.2.0 and if not.... why?

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=197683#post197683

[Kier]

Quite often we make little changes to templates, such as cleaning up the HTML code or tidying up a bit of layout. However, if the change we make does not affect functionality at all, as is the case with the 2.2.0 postbit change, we may not include it in the changelog, as it's entirely optional for anyone to revert their templates for the change.

[JasonDesRoches]

I noticed that the email notification bug hasn't been fixed in this release. Are there any plans to release a patch before vb3?

[ethank]

Originally posted by Kier
Quite often we make little changes to templates, such as cleaning up the HTML code or tidying up a bit of layout. However, if the change we make does not affect functionality at all, as is the case with the 2.2.0 postbit change, we may not include it in the changelog, as it's entirely optional for anyone to revert their templates for the change.

But, in terms of keeping consistent version wise, I'd really like it if even cosmetic changes were fully documented. Its not a problem for me to go through and diff template against each other. I'm a proponent of more documentation, not less.

Even if you broke it out seperately and put a heading "Cosmetic Changes Only, Reversion Optional" or something and listed which templates had cosmetic changes, I'd be happy.

Right now I have this lingering feeling that there's something that was missing from the changelog that'll bite me in the ass down the line.

In summation: more, not less.

Ethan

[Alien]

Successful upgrade, good work guys! :D

Thanks for all the long hours you all put in!

[NAS]

Originally posted by RCK


I'm also interesting into the getnew/getdaily per forum ...
I can't see any link ! How it works ?
use
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/search.php?s=&action=getnew&forumid=32

[Hooper]

Instead of having the on/off. gif next to the names under the Forum Leaders, I replaced it with Currently Online- Currently Not Online text. Pretty neat.

[Mike Gaidin]

Installed and it works like a charm. Thanks!

[surfdude]

I tried a clean install of vB 2.2.0 but received an error message in step 4:

"Creating table access

There seems to have been a slight problem with the database.
Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser.

An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, who you can also contact if the problem persists.

We apologise for any inconvenience."

I get same message if i try to erase all the contents in the database.

What does 'slight problem with the database' mean?

[Cyrus]

i dont think its such a massive change so im gonna stick with 2.0.3 for now, as i dont wanna re-program my hack !! :)

[Fred]

Upgrade is done and working fine.

Just some minor template problems I need sorted in the How Do I forum.

[Blue2000]

well done dudes on yet another great update!!!

it all went great with my board :D

[Bobbi]

Originally posted by Alien
Successful upgrade, good work guys! :D

Thanks for all the long hours you all put in!


Same here (succesful upgrade), and I second that - good work, everybody! The new version is very nice. :)

[smackafiyah]

Upgraded succesfully with a slight few problems...

My clickable smilies and vbcode buttons dissappeared, and note that I did check the newthread and newreply templates, and checked my "edit options" and the quick links option is pointed to "yes", but still nothing showing up.

Don't know if its a javascript problem or what, its just bugging me to death.

[Jake Bunce]

successly upgrade here. i only have it installed in a test directory so i can customize my .style b4 upgrading my public board. see it here: www.mac-gamer.com/dev/

i'm still working on the nav column angle... gonna do some graphical table backgrounds and such as soon as i install photoshop again (had to reformat recently :( )

[Jake Bunce]

comment / sug

why use font size=2 for the currentpage thing in the page nav numbers for long threads? i forget the template off hand... but i just changed it to normalfont... it looks better and keeps the font size global.

[freaky]

Upgrade went fine. I was gettin nervous at the part where it was encrypting the passwords since I have 25k members, but all went fine :)

A VERY good job :)

[iwbyte]

The annoucements post said that an email went out to all registered users about this recommended upgrade - has anyone gotten their email yet? I haven't here - granted, its only 2 days later, but if they send it went out, i'm concerned i'm not on The list

Sounds like cool things in the upgrade, and this board is pretty slick and easy to use for a non PHP guy. i'll have to learn how to do the mysqldump for backing up, tho...

Thanx,
Matt

[WildWayz]

I got the email a few hours before it was released the other day.

--James

[Smoothie]

Never received the email, but the upgrade was as smooth as silk. :D

Smoothie

[dscollon]

Yeah, got the email a few hours ahead of the release.

[aldamon]

Nice try guys with the Avatar-at-registration section but who is going to scroll one by one through a drop-down list to select an avatar? Especially if you have 360 avatars with undescriptive names to choose from! This is what my new users will have to do to see what avatar they are choosing.

Why not make a popup window that looks just like the avatar change section in the user cp? That way users are exposed to a full page of avatars and can see what they're choosing without scrolling!

.....aldamon leaves to rename 360 gifs....grrrr

[treszoks]

I didn't receive any email. How do we get on the list?

[eurosale]

Works like a charm :cool:

[Littlebit]

Just upgraded and so far so good. I love the enhancements!
:)

[ArabicFox]

still there are bug which is still not resolved>>>>



when i rate this thread ,this message commen:

ATTENTION ADMINISTRATOR: You MUST revert your showthread_threadrate template!




nothing improve!!!!!!

[koen.smallzine]

Just another one: Upgrade works fine.

One little note: backup or download your config.php file (in /admin) because it was gone after my upgrade :confused: Don't know why ... upload your config.php after the final steps... and it works fine.

Koen

[Hamma]

Success, nice upgrade :) Had some small issues but nothing that kept us from using them :)

[Paul J]

Didn't backup my templates before upgrading.

Am I missing a ton of features?

[Thomas P]

Am upgrading right now... and I have to say the list of changed templates is far from being complete :o :( :eek: :confused:
This has to become better imho.
-Tom

[tubedogg]

There's three missing, all with strictly comestic changes...

[ethank]

Originally posted by tubedogg
There's three missing, all with strictly comestic changes...

Still, its a matter of precident. There shouldn't be any missing. Its not that huge a deal since they are cosmetic, but saying "they are only cosmetic, it doesn't make any different" sets a bad precident for future releases.

Ethan

[Hooper]

Originally posted by tubedogg
There's three missing, all with strictly comestic changes...

It's not whether it's cosmetic or not, it's that it is missing from the list. Just like the $onlinestatus not being hooked up to the functions and announcement bits.

We need to know what works and what doesn't. <erased the smiley>. If anyone knows how hard it is to do an upgrade and not know why something isn't working or doesn't look right after making a bunch of changes it would be you Kevin. Then you don't know if something you were working on caused the problem or not. It really sucks.

[Hooper]

I am still looking for this answer.

After a new release has hit and the bugs start coming in, are the files updated regularly as the fixes are being made? I mean, I have the original files that came out the day of release. If there are fixes for some of the bugs found and the files reupped, then it would be good to redownload the files for a week or so until whatever problems are worked out with the new releases.

Any Ideas?

[tubedogg]

Files are not updated to fix bugs unless there is a major show-stopping type bug, and usually this only happens within the first couple hours after a release.

As for missing templates, I think it is whether it's cosmetic or not. Cosmetic changes do not cause things to stop working. Functional changes do, and that's what is listed in the changed templates announcement.

[ethank]

Originally posted by tubedogg
Files are not updated to fix bugs unless there is a major show-stopping type bug, and usually this only happens within the first couple hours after a release.

As for missing templates, I think it is whether it's cosmetic or not. Cosmetic changes do not cause things to stop working. Functional changes do, and that's what is listed in the changed templates announcement.

I hate to beat a dead horse, but its precident about template changes not being documented, even if they are cosmetic. A professional product that encourages template mofications should document each and every modification.

The thing about what you are saying is its inconsistent, because cosmetic changes were fully documented with 2.0.2 and 2.0.3 and partially in 2.2.0

Ethan

[FWC]

Originally posted by tubedogg
There's three missing, all with strictly comestic changes... Three? I thought postibit was the only one. What are the other two. There was a rumor of two others, but they were on the list. Some people just missed it.

[Hooper]

Originally posted by tubedogg
Files are not updated to fix bugs unless there is a major show-stopping type bug, and usually this only happens within the first couple hours after a release.

As for missing templates, I think it is whether it's cosmetic or not. Cosmetic changes do not cause things to stop working. Functional changes do, and that's what is listed in the changed templates announcement.

Well, I guess we will just disagree agreeably. All I know is my first thought when something isn't working or I can't figure out why something isn't looking correctly is "What or how did I mess up here." I use (and from the look of it many do) John's list of templates to make my decision on how I want to go about the upgrade and reverts etc. As far as the bug question I had, what happens when I go through the bug forum and see [Fixed] next to all of them and am having the same problems also? Why not update the fixed files and put them on the server? Do we have to wait until the next version to get the fixes for the previous?

[Thomas P]

Hi,
I really recommend Fryzid's "Save template to textfile hack" (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15693&highlight=template+save) and BeyondCompare.
So no matter what is right or wrong in the announcement, you'll get all the real changes between two versions or the original and your customized templates.
Good luck with upgrading, took me ~5 hours.
cu,
-Tom

[Hooper]

Originally posted by Thomas P
Hi,
I really recommend Fryzid's "Save template to textfile hack" (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15693&highlight=template+save) and BeyondCompare.
So no matter what is right or wrong in the announcement, you'll get all the real changes between two versions or the original and your customized templates.
Good luck with upgrading, took me ~5 hours.
cu,
-Tom

I backup to .txt and use a compare proggie. Still need to adust according to the list. Just my opinion.

[JamesUS]

We try to mention every template change - however occasionally some get overlooked. If you let us know exactly what was missed, we'll make sure the lists are updated immediately.

[psionvereniging]

I just trying to upgrade from 2.0.3 to 2.20 but I get aan error:
Database error in vBulletin :

Invalid SQL: ALTER TABLE poll ADD voters SMALLINT UNSIGNED DEFAULT '0' not null
mysql error: Duplicate column name 'voters'

mysql error number: 1060

Date: Saturday 03rd of November 2001 09:18:58 PM
Script: /forum/admin/upgrade13.php?step=2

Arrg,, nobody can logon, even I can not logon.. There are no passwords any more..

Help!! How can I fix this??

I put the backup back and thats lucky works.. But no-update for me..

[Steve_S]

Very nice work :) Congrats and best wishes to the developemnt and testing teams.

A few minor cosmetic things as I begin to revert/edit but no biggie.

[thewitt]

Two successful installs.

Seamless.

No problems.

vB been very good to me.

Great work gentlemen.

-t

[tubedogg]

Originally posted by Hooper
Why not update the fixed files and put them on the server? Do we have to wait until the next version to get the fixes for the previous?Because then we'd be InfoPop. :D No but seriously, the path from, for example, 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 would look something like this:
2.0.1
2.0.1a
2.0.1b
2.0.1c
2.0.1d
2.0.1e
2.0.1f
2.0.1g
2.0.1h
2.0.1i
2.0.1j
2.0.1k
etc. To offer support for 80 different versions of 2.0.1 would be a nightmare. Keeping everyone on the same general page (or at least within 3 or so 'major' versions) makes getting support faster and easier.

[Hooper]

Originally posted by tubedogg
Because then we'd be InfoPop. :D No but seriously, the path from, for example, 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 would look something like this:
2.0.1
2.0.1a
2.0.1b
2.0.1c
2.0.1d
2.0.1e
2.0.1f
2.0.1g
2.0.1h
2.0.1i
2.0.1j
2.0.1k
etc. To offer support for 80 different versions of 2.0.1 would be a nightmare. Keeping everyone on the same general page (or at least within 3 or so 'major' versions) makes getting support faster and easier.

Ah... Ok. Nice explaination. All you had to do was mention Infopop. Now I'm all happy again. :D

[tubedogg]

LOL :)

[Steve Machol]

Just upgraded! Everything went very smoothly and the entire upgrade plus reinstalling my hacks and the custom templates for 12 style sets took a total of 23 minutes.

And yes, I know I'm a Mod and should have upgraded sooner. However I have a good excuse. I was on a business trip (Halloween on Bourbon Street! :D) and didn't get back home til last night. So there! :p

[Thomas P]

You're so funny... and forget all the people out there who run vb in other languages than english :rolleyes:
Literally nobody on earth can upgrade a localized vb in 23 mins. e.g.
-Tom

[Fusion]

Thomas, let's bribe somebody to add to John's list that all the language specific texts should be moved to an external module. ;) I'll be happy to do the Norwegian translation and any other I know.

Seriously, if this happened, vB would REALLY blow any competition to bits.

[Silviu]

I tried to upgrade, and i got some errors when the upgrade13.php script tried to update that multiple choice vote thing. I had the hack installed, so the upgrade13.php couldnt do all the job :) There is no way that the upgrade13.php script could check for installed hacks and if they are already installed not to try to install them again, or at least if must be clean installed, at least rm the old ones or something.

[YourHostSucks]

Althou it messed up a few of my "extra" features...
I like some of the new ones.. :)

Silviu,
You are responsible for hacks you install, if they tried to make the upgrade compatible with every hack out there.. we would never see a upgrade... :)

[Silviu]

I agree with that :) Will remove the hack before install.

[Longbow]

Originally posted by Fusion
Thomas, let's bribe somebody to add to John's list that all the language specific texts should be moved to an external module. ;) I'll be happy to do the Norwegian translation and any other I know.

Seriously, if this happened, vB would REALLY blow any competition to bits.
yeah........ i'd like to help with the Chinese version... :D

[Longbow]

smoothly upgraded from 2.0.3 to 2.2.0. thanks for the great work. just one thing - i havn't got my notification email. :(

[LoB]

eek i just upgraded, now noone can modify anything in their profile, neither can the admins modify other peoples profile data... any ideas? thanks

[Bootre]

Still waiting...

Any idea when we might see this?

I really want to get switched over.

Thanks,

Bootre...

TNT!forum old (http://bootre.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi)

TNT!forum - NEW vBulletin Powered (http://bootre.com/tntvb)

[Zorg]

I took me a while, but a perfect update. A+ ;)

[eva2000]

Originally posted by Zorg
I took me a while, but a perfect update. A+ ;) :D :cool: :)

[almighty one]

i been realbusy dont got time to read 14 pages of stuff but is there any templates i will need to revert to get things to work for new features thanx for answering in advance

[Zorg]

Originally posted by eva2000
:D :cool: :)
Eva, I saw your post in my forum and I knew it was time to take my finger out and update vB. :cool:

[eva2000]

Originally posted by Zorg

Eva, I saw your post in my forum and I knew it was time to take my finger out and update vB. :cool: the friendly nudge to upgrade :D

[JamesUS]

Originally posted by almighty one
i been realbusy dont got time to read 14 pages of stuff but is there any templates i will need to revert to get things to work for new features thanx for answering in advance

The list is in John's thread in the announcements forum, where it always is :)

[psionvereniging]

Originally posted by psionvereniging
I just trying to upgrade from 2.0.3 to 2.20 but I get aan error:
Database error in vBulletin :

Invalid SQL: ALTER TABLE poll ADD voters SMALLINT UNSIGNED DEFAULT '0' not null
mysql error: Duplicate column name 'voters'

mysql error number: 1060

Date: Saturday 03rd of November 2001 09:18:58 PM
Script: /forum/admin/upgrade13.php?step=2

Arrg,, nobody can logon, even I can not logon.. There are no passwords any more..

Help!! How can I fix this??

I put the backup back and thats lucky works.. But no-update for me..

After deleting tabels and column names and tweaking ugrade13.php I could get the forum to update to 2.20 ! Pfff..

But why is standing twice this in vBulletin Options ???:

Highlight Admin
Enabling this will show Admin names in Bold and Italics and Moderators' names in Bold on the logged in users and Who's Online.
Yes No
Highlight Admin
Enabling this will show Admin names in Bold and Italics and Moderators' names in Bold on the logged in users and Who's Online.
Yes No


Error in our forum, or have more forum owners this?? :confused:

[Thomas P]

Originally posted by psionvereniging
But why is standing twice this in vBulletin Options ???:

Highlight Admin
Enabling this will show Admin names in Bold and Italics and Moderators' names in Bold on the logged in users and Who's Online.
Yes No
Highlight Admin
Enabling this will show Admin names in Bold and Italics and Moderators' names in Bold on the logged in users and Who's Online.
Yes No


Error in our forum, or have more forum owners this?? :confused:

Hmmm, I have it only once in my options,
-Tom

[pgowder]

This is my first upgrade of vB.

I have a number of hacks installed including:

Last Post Title
Picture in Profile
Community Bulletin


As well as many adjustments to templates and styles.

What gets changed on the upload?

Do I have reinstall all the hacks?

[Steve Machol]

Most likely you'll have to reinstall all your hacks. Look here for a list of templates that changed:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31953

Also many PHP files changed as well.

[Boris]

Hello, I upgraded to this latest version and everything seems to be working fine, except when I click on the "Forum Leaders" link... this is what I get when I click on that:


Database error in vBulletin 2.2.0:

Invalid SQL:
SELECT
userfield.field2, usergroup.title, user.username, user.userid, user.invisible, user.receivepm,
user.usergroupid, user.lastactivity
FROM usergroup
LEFT JOIN user ON (usergroup.usergroupid = user.usergroupid)
LEFT JOIN userfield ON (userfield.userid = user.userid)
WHERE usergroup.showgroup = 1

mysql error: Unknown column 'userfield.field2' in 'field list'

mysql error number: 1054

Date: Wednesday 07th of November 2001 05:20:18 PM
Script: http://www.clannight.com/clangay/forum/clangay/forum/showgroups.php?s=
Referer: http://www.clannight.com/clangay/forum/


I dont have any Moderators defined because I created a special user group that each member in that group is a SuperModerator.

Any idea what might be causing this?

I upgraded from 2.0.3 to 2.2.0 using the upgrade13.php

Thank you for any info.

Boris

[stipey]

Originally posted by Boris
Hello, I upgraded to this latest version and everything seems to be working fine, except when I click on the "Forum Leaders" link... this is what I get when I click on that:

Any idea what might be causing this?

I upgraded from 2.0.3 to 2.2.0 using the upgrade13.php

Thank you for any info.

Boris

Boris,

Did you perhaps delete the user profile field for "Location"? The table column in "userfield" named "field2" seems to be expected as existing for that query. If you deleted the original "Location" field with the admin control panel, that would be the problem. (I reproduced this error doing the same)

If you have phpMyAdmin on your server, use it to add a column called "field2" to the "userfield" table . Type: "Char" Length: "1" This should fix your problem without having to change any code.

[Boris]

Yes Sir, that's the problem... I didn't need a "Location" in my user records and since Control Pannel allowed me to delete it, I did.

Perhaps they should not let ppl. delete it if this is required.

Thank you,

Boris

[Hooper]

Just wanted to say thanks again for including the search in the CP for individual templates like I polled on. I am enjoying having it there and it does indeed make a task easier.


Thanks Again for listening.

[rcooper]

HAs Anyone hada problem upgrading while running VB Portal?

ryan:confused:

[Hooper]

Originally posted by rcooper
HAs Anyone hada problem upgrading while running VB Portal?

ryan:confused:

You'll find that 95percent do not use vBportal. Your best bet would be to ask Mr. portal hacker about this. :(

[mjames]

Upgraded www.SportsCentralBoards.com - very smooth! Just got done reverting the templates, relieved I got this done. Nice job, vB.

[cdaniel]

Does this new version fix the problem of losing a thread when you accidentally try to merge a thread with itself?

[BaD-b0y]

Hi everybody,

Im a new users of Vbulletin and i see that the new version 2.2.0 is now here. I want to know how to upgrade and where can i can download the files to upgrapde, i use version 2.0.0

Thx in advance!!!

BaD-b0y

[Steve Machol]

Go to the Member Area to download the latest version:

http://www.vbulletin.com/members/

[BaD-b0y]

But what username and password do i enter ???

Thx in advance

BaD-b0y

[Hooper]

Originally posted by BaD-b0y
But what username and password do i enter ???

Thx in advance

BaD-b0y

Are you a registered owner of the vBulletin program? If so, you will have this information. It was given to you at the time of the intial purchase.

[Steve Machol]

BaD-b0y,

What's the URL to your forums?

[BaD-b0y]

Here is the url of my board:

http://www.multimania.com/stgabriel4/
Why do you want it ?

Thx in advance

BaD-b0y

[Oystein]

My board is 100% translated into norwegian.

The info on what templates have changed, and new ones are highly important for me.

also I need info on what changes are done in the files?

The job of converting templates and such is rather large, and it could be nice to know changes in files too...


any chance of getting that info?

[Fusion]

Oystein,
Please do a diff between the original 2.0.3 files and the ones you use now, that way it can be saved for whenever vB finally becomes multilingual. It's only a matter of time (and user-pressure). ;)

[Oystein]

I did last time too... but it still takes quite a lot of time to check all the files and such

but it would save me a lot of time if they also could mention file-changes together with changes of templates. Both the files and the changes in them (lines and such)

I guess they know what changes are done in the files too ...

[mjames]

Originally posted by BaD-b0y
Here is the url of my board:

http://www.multimania.com/stgabriel4/
Why do you want it ?

Thx in advance

BaD-b0y
Why on earth are you running a board that outdated? That is a half a dozen releases ago... *cough* pirate *cough*

[cdaniel]

How do I stop receiving email notifications of posts to this thread?

By the way, I know the "pirate" thing wasn't addressed to me (I paid), but personally, I'm afraid to update cause I'm afraid if something goofed up I wouldn't be able to restore the backup. Too complicated for me and my isp doesn't give me a lot of reassurance.

I'm technically knowledgeable in some areas, but not the technology used for this forum software. Some things are really not very user friendly for someone not knowledgeable in this type of platform.

I really wish the restore would be made easier.

[Fusion]

Originally posted by cdaniel
How do I stop receiving email notifications of posts to this thread?

If you've already subscribed to the thread (by way of posting or subscribing manually) with email notification, I suppose you'll have to unsubscribe, then re-subscribe while making sure the email notification check-box is unchecked. Ä bit tedious, perhaps.

[Smoothie]

I have email notification for this thread, and when the last guy made a post, I got 122 emails about the same post. What's up with that???:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Smoothie

[YourHostSucks]

lol i got 20 of
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fusion has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - vBulletin 2.2.0 Released - discuss - in the Announcements Discussions forum of vBulletin Community Forum.

[c-prompt]

Originally posted by BaD-b0y
But what username and password do i enter ???


That is like trying to walk into an employee only entrance and asking others what the code is......

If you were a paying member you would know. :rolleyes:

[Fusion]

Smoothie, you don't enjoy getting mail? ;)

[Tolitz]

Originally posted by BaD-b0y
Here is the url of my board:

http://www.multimania.com/stgabriel4/
Why do you want it ?Boom, gotya ;)

[cdaniel]

Originally posted by Fusion


If you've already subscribed to the thread (by way of posting or subscribing manually) with email notification, I suppose you'll have to unsubscribe, then re-subscribe while making sure the email notification check-box is unchecked. Ä bit tedious, perhaps.

Right, my question was how to unsubscribe to this thread.

[John]

There are instructions on how to unsubscribe at the bottom of the email that you receive.

John

[Oystein]

Originally posted by Oystein
My board is 100% translated into norwegian.

The info on what templates have changed, and new ones are highly important for me.

also I need info on what changes are done in the files?

The job of converting templates and such is rather large, and it could be nice to know changes in files too...


any chance of getting that info?


I'm still waiting for a reply from moderators on what files that are changed and what the changes are...

I bet you have a change-log for the files... please make it public

[DarkReaper]

Originally posted by Oystein



I'm still waiting for a reply from moderators on what files that are changed and what the changes are...

I bet you have a change-log for the files... please make it public

I doubt they'll do that, as it would allow non-vB license holders:

A) Quite a bit of source code
B) Potential information on the security holes in pre-2.2.0 versions.

Just use BeyondCompare on the files, and don't post the full results :)

[DarkReaper]

Originally posted by Smoothie
I have email notification for this thread, and when the last guy made a post, I got 122 emails about the same post. What's up with that???:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Smoothie

I got about 200 emails all at once...after not getting any for a few days. Glitch in the Jelsoft mail server maybe? The same thing happened for vB.org.

Everything's back to normal now, btw.

[mADmAX`]

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