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kentaurus
Tue 21st Oct '08, 1:52pm
Well, in my forum they are actually named "profile messages", y didn't really liked the "visitor" term :) Anyway.

It has been several days after I setup 3.7 and activated visitor messages. Since some users are used to a "wall" in their facebook, it wasn't really a shock. For others, it was really fun signing others' profiles, lilke a classic "guestbook" (are there guestbooks anymore on the Internet?)

What was really hard for my users was that concept of "answer in the other member profile", "that way you can use the 'view conversation' link". Even I had trouble with it. I just kept answering on my own profile... after everybody got used to answering in the target profile (with the following reasoning: 'that way, the user gets a notification, instead of having to read all profiles in which he has left a message', everything made sense).

The shock for my database was also considerable. With 1000+ vm a day (and growing), they are by far a popular option. I have seen a single member with 10,000 visitor messages and vBulletin handles them really well. I'm starting to think that sooner or later I'll have to recycle them and delete the old ones.

Nowadays, the visitor messages are used as a substitute for private messages. I don't know why, or if people just like to show off, it's common to enter a profile and view a conversation between the member and someone else, that spans several messages.... they don't care that everybody can see it. Some members post in my profile for support on the forum, and I keep directing them to my private message inbox so I can keep organised.

If 3 years ago, I said that all the "private messages" were going to be 'public' and the conversations between 2 person that nobody else cares about (besides maybe for gossip) would be completely visible, I would have been labeled as crazy! :)

glennybee
Tue 21st Oct '08, 2:13pm
I see this as a flaw for your community. If these people started a topic instead of posting a visitor message, your board would be bigger.

Maybe you could open a section called 'One2One' or something similar, for people to have conversations in.

Ryan Ashbrook
Tue 21st Oct '08, 3:03pm
I see this as a flaw for your community. If these people started a topic instead of posting a visitor message, your board would be bigger.

Maybe you could open a section called 'One2One' or something similar, for people to have conversations in.
On the contrary, my forum is like kentaurus'.

People will use the VM's for one on one conversations and usually the discussions that take place there do not pertain to any section on the forums and are usually full of one line responses.

My users will use the forums to have full discussions as well, the activity there has not dropped one single bit, even with the addition of VM's, Picture Comments, and Blogs.

If anything, the activity on the forums themselves has grown now that there are more user to user interactions.

kentaurus
Tue 21st Oct '08, 5:49pm
Most of those conversations are not appropriate for a forum thread, it is a personal conversation between the users with no opportunity to give an opinion, with messages like "I loved the sweater you were wearing today" - "I can tell you where I bought it", surely that doesn't belong to a thread :) The users just keep with that conversation for several messages.

Deriel
Wed 22nd Oct '08, 12:41pm
I saw a small decrease in posts in my forum with the adoption of visitor messages, albums comments, communities and blogs but that's ok... the posts not being made weren't that good, mostly friends talk.

All in all, my users are happy, the use of the new functions are rising a lot and the discussions thread are a little cleaner.:)

xjuliox
Wed 22nd Oct '08, 4:37pm
I have visitor messages turned off for now until my board gets bigger than i will enable it back again.