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PeopleCore
Fri 23rd May '08, 6:12pm
I'm looking for feeback on Future Hosting from Vbulletin users. Is Future Hosting any good for VPS managed servers?

What should I use, cPanel or Plesk? I was using Godaddy shared server and it was awful. I have since pulled my Vbulletin site down and will be recreating it soon. I'm definately a noobie with Vbulletin. I will also be hosting several other of my domains that are not forum related.

Any feedback is appreciated. Future Hosting has a data center in my backyard which is a major plus. They also have free ram upgrades and a 15% lifetime discount on their services. No contracts.

PeopleCore
Mon 26th May '08, 5:25am
If nobody has any comment about Future Hosting, at least tell me which is better, cPanel or Plesk?

royo
Mon 26th May '08, 6:15am
cPanel will be easier for you to use. FutureHosting should be good.

PeopleCore
Mon 26th May '08, 8:56am
Cpanel it is. How about the location of the datacenter? Is it best to have a server close (Seattle) to my home? Does nearness of the datacenter get affected by latency if the datacenter is (New York to Seattle) far away?

eUKhost.com
Mon 26th May '08, 10:14am
If nobody has any comment about Future Hosting, at least tell me which is better, cPanel or Plesk?

cPanel is the most user friendly control panel with VPS. It has lot of features which will be much easier to manage your VPS.

PeopleCore
Tue 27th May '08, 6:57am
Thank you for the advice.;)

yogesh
Fri 30th May '08, 2:30pm
Is your forum city specific?

If yes then try and get hosting in the same city, else check tracert results for all their DC's and also get it checked by your friend/family (preferably in different cities) to judge which one is better.

Also check out webhostingtalk for their reviews and check their support forum for threads related to outages in various DCs.

PeopleCore
Tue 3rd Jun '08, 7:46pm
Yes, my forum is city specific or region specific. Future hosting has a datacenter in Issaquah which is 20 miles from Seattle and 15 miles from my home in Kirkland. Microsoft is 3 miles away from Kirkland. Their backbone is at the Westin in downtown Seattle 10 miles from my house.

I went to webhostfourm and they had good things to say about future hosting. No setup costs and month to month billing.

They are offering either a 15% lifetime discount or 128mb of ram for free which would make the managed gold VPS with cPanel $40 with 512mb of ram instead of 384mb. Every 128mb of additional ram is $10. Which makes the additional ram a better value. My Vbulletin site will be a fresh start so I'm planning for the future and parking 20 other domains I have.



Microsoft has 2 million sq ft of office space occupied or under construction in downtown Bellevue. Future Hosting is Located up in the right corner of the picture to the right of Lake Sammamish.

R1lover
Tue 3rd Jun '08, 8:48pm
you will need at least 512 to run cpanel... anything less and it won't even install on a vps. Remember a vps doesn't have swap memory to use in most cases.

yogesh
Wed 4th Jun '08, 5:11am
you will need at least 512 to run cpanel... anything less and it won't even install on a vps. Remember a vps doesn't have swap memory to use in most cases.
Really? Then I better uninstall it from my 384MB VPS which right now hosts a dozen dynamic websites and has ~200MB free RAM :p

PeopleCore
Wed 4th Jun '08, 6:13am
Really? Then I better uninstall it from my 384MB VPS which right now hosts a dozen dynamic websites and has ~200MB free RAM :p

I was scratching my head when I read that previous post. Thanks for putting thing in perspective yogesh.

teenhut
Thu 5th Jun '08, 2:13am
you will need at least 512 to run cpanel... anything less and it won't even install on a vps. Remember a vps doesn't have swap memory to use in most cases.

LOL what?

I have run a vps of 256mb ram with cpanel :rolleyes:

R1lover
Thu 5th Jun '08, 2:48pm
There is a difference in running it and running it properly.... lol

Of course you can run it with less.........

yogesh
Fri 6th Jun '08, 2:53am
Do you mind listing out a few things which are run properly on a 512MB Cpanel VPS which can't be done on a 256MB one?

R1lover
Fri 6th Jun '08, 4:09am
Do you mind listing out a few things which are run properly on a 512MB Cpanel VPS which can't be done on a 256MB one?

Speaking from my own personal experience only.... cPanel is very memory hungry, I installed it on a couple 512mb VPS machines within the last year, each time I had issues with the install due to lack of enough memory when I was trying to install and run the install script. I'm sure there are some VPS providers out there that run a modified or slimmed down version of CP on these lower end VPS's though.
While I was able to teak it to run ok with a few sites on this VPS, all in all I like to have enough power to do what I need too and being that CP was using the majority of the server resources, there was little left for the sites.

So yes it can be done..... is it the best system or control panel out there to run with minimal ram? Not hardly.... There are a few others that run lighty and/or and can run on only 100mb of ram just fine with all the features as well.

I run lxadmin now on both my dedicated machines and also my VPS's machines. While there is a little learning curve with it... it's very stable and very nice for both full dedicated and also VPS's.

J2jcs
Fri 6th Jun '08, 2:03pm
My vB runs off a 512mb ram "Gold" package Future hosting VPS. Although I am not the account owner there, my collegue and myself have had great support there, even though we are unmanaged etc.

My forum community isn't that large, so I couldn't tell you how well it copes under immense traffic, although I presume it is good! Hope this helps. We use cPanel by the way.

alemcherry
Sat 7th Jun '08, 8:53am
LOL what?

I have run a vps of 256mb ram with cpanel :rolleyes:

256 mb ram is supposed to be the minimum for running cpanel. Never attempted to run it on a lower configuration, though.

Generally plesk is supposed to be lighter and better for VPS with lower configuration.

PeopleCore
Thu 12th Jun '08, 8:28pm
I finally pulled the trigger and went with Future Hosting. I purchased the cPanel gold package with the 512mb of ram. in Seattle datacenter. The package is $39.95. They wouldn't tell me what kind of processors they were using. When I signed up, I found out. They are not using the cheap stuff. They're using 2.5Ghz Quad Core Xeon 45nm processors.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117169

I will keep everyone updated after I'm up and running.:)

yogesh
Fri 13th Jun '08, 1:31am
Congrats, if you haven't trasnfered any sites yet, then can you please run the top or free command and post the results here?

PeopleCore
Fri 13th Jun '08, 5:59pm
I will do that. Just give a a week to get everything up and running.:)

yogesh
Sat 14th Jun '08, 12:26pm
Will wait, just do it before you move any of your sites over to it. Just want to see how much their base install with CPanel consumes.

PeopleCore
Sat 14th Jun '08, 7:22pm
I have 20GB of storage and 3GB was used after FutureHosting loaded all the software.

Memory usage was as low as 84mb and right now sits at 112.3MB of 512MB available.