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Will78
Sat 16th Feb '08, 2:48pm
Firefox 3 Beta 3 Release Notes
Released: February 12, 2008

Firefox 3 Beta 3 is a developer preview release of Mozilla's next generation Firefox browser and is being made available for testing purposes only.

These beta releases are targeted to Web developers and our testing community to gain feedback before advancing to the next stage in the release process. The final version of Firefox 3 will be released when we qualify the product as fully ready for our users. Users of the latest released version of Firefox (http://www.getfirefox.com/) should not expect their add-ons to work properly with this beta.

This beta will give you a taste of what's coming in Firefox 3, but there's still more to come, and much of what you'll see may still be a bit rough around the edges.

Please see below for an extensive list of features and enhancements (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b3/releasenotes/#whatsnew) found in Firefox 3 Beta 3, as well as known issues (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b3/releasenotes/#issues) and frequently asked questions (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b3/releasenotes/#FAQ).

As always, we appreciate your feedback either through this feedback form (http://feedback.mozilla.org/) or by filing a bug in Bugzilla (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/).

What's New in Firefox 3 Firefox 3 is based on the new Gecko 1.9 Web rendering platform, which has been under development for the past 30 months and includes nearly 2 million lines of code changes, fixing more than 12,000 issues. Gecko 1.9 includes some major re-architecting for performance (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b3/releasenotes/#performance), stability, correctness, and code simplification and sustainability. Firefox 3 has been built on top of this new platform resulting in a more secure (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b3/releasenotes/#secure), easier to use (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b3/releasenotes/#easy), more personal (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b3/releasenotes/#personal) product with a lot under the hood (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b3/releasenotes/#engine) to offer website and Firefox add-on developers.

Firefox 3 Beta 3 includes approximately 1300 individual changes from the previous beta, including fixes for stability, performance, memory usage, platform enhancements and user interface improvements. Many of these improvements were based on community feedback from the previous beta.

More Secure
[Improved in Beta 3!] One-click site info: Click the site favicon in the location bar to see who owns the site and to check if your connection is protected from eavesdropping. Identity verification is prominently displayed and easier to understand. When a site uses Extended Validation (EV) SSL certificates, the site favicon button will turn green and show the name of the company you're connected to. (Try it here! (https://www.britishairways.com/))
[Improved in Beta 3!] Malware Protection: malware protection warns users when they arrive at sites which are known to install viruses, spyware, trojans or other malware. (Try it here! (http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/its-an-attack.html))
New Web Forgery Protection page: the content of pages suspected as web forgeries is no longer shown. (Try it here! (http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/its-a-trap.html))
New SSL error pages: clearer and stricter error pages are used when Firefox encounters an invalid SSL certificate. (Try it here! (https://mozilla.com/))
Add-ons and Plugin version check: Firefox now automatically checks add-on and plugin versions and will disable older, insecure versions.
Secure add-on updates: to improve add-on update security, add-ons that provide updates in an insecure manner will be disabled.
Anti-virus integration: Firefox will inform anti-virus software when downloading executables.
Vista Parental Controls: Firefox now respects the Vista system-wide parental control setting for disabling file downloads.
Effective top-level domain (eTLD) service better restricts cookies and other restricted content to a single domain.
Better protection against cross-site JSON data leaks (http://ejohn.org/blog/re-securing-json/).
Easier to Use
Easier password management: an information bar replaces the old password dialog so you can now save passwords after a successful login.
Simplified add-on installation: the add-ons whitelist has been removed making it possible to install extensions from third-party sites in fewer clicks.
[Improved in Beta 3!] New Download Manager: the revised download manager makes it much easier to locate downloaded files, and you can see and search on the name of the website where a file came from. Your active downloads and time remaining are always shown in the status bar as your files download.
Resumable downloading: users can now resume downloads after restarting the browser or resetting your network connection.
Full page zoom: from the View menu and via keyboard shortcuts, the new zooming feature lets you zoom in and out of entire pages, scaling the layout, text and images.
[Improved in Beta 3!] Podcasts and Videocasts can be associated with your media playback tools.
Tab scrolling and quickmenu: tabs are easier to locate with the new tab scrolling and tab quickmenu.
Save what you were doing: Firefox will prompt users to save tabs on exit.
Optimized Open in Tabs behavior: opening a folder of bookmarks in tabs now appends the new tabs rather than overwriting.
Location and Search bar size can now be customized with a simple resizer item.
Text selection improvements: multiple text selections can be made with Ctrl/Cmd; double-click drag selects in "word-by-word" mode; triple-clicking selects a paragraph.
Find toolbar: the Find toolbar now opens with the current selection.
Plugin management: users can disable individual plugins in the Add-on Manager.
Integration with Vista: Firefox's menus now display using Vista's native theme.
[Improved in Beta 3!] Integration with the Mac: the new Firefox theme makes toolbars, icons, and other user interface elements look like a native OS X application. Firefox also uses OS X widgets and spell-checker in web forms and supports Growl for notifications of completed downloads and available updates.
[Improved in Beta 3!] Integration with Linux: Firefox's default icons, buttons, and menu styles now use the native GTK theme.
More Personal
[Improved in Beta 3!] Star button: quickly add bookmarks from the location bar with a single click; a second click lets you file and tag them.
Tags: associate keywords with your bookmarks to sort them by topic.
[Improved in Beta 3!] Location bar & auto-complete: type in all or part of the title, tag or address of a page to see a list of matches from your history and bookmarks; a new display makes it easier to scan through the matching results and find that page you're looking for. New in Beta 3 is an improved search algorithm which calculates the [i]recency and frequency of a visit to come up with a frecency score that is used to determine the most relevant results.
Smart Bookmarks Folder: quickly access your recently bookmarked and tagged pages, as well as your more frequently visited pages with the new smart bookmarks folder on your bookmark toolbar.
Places Organizer: view, organize and search through all of your bookmarks, tags, and browsing history with multiple views and smart folders to store your frequent searches.
Web-based protocol handlers: web applications, such as your favorite webmail provider, can now be used instead of desktop applications for handling mailto: links from other sites. Similar support is available for other protocols (Web applications will have to first enable this by registering as handlers with Firefox).
Download & Install Add-ons: the Add-ons Manager (Tools > Add-ons) can now be used to download and install a Firefox customization from the thousands of Add-ons available from our community add-ons website (https://addons.mozilla.org/). When you first open the Add-ons Manager, a list of recommended Add-ons is shown.
Easy to use Download Actions: a new Applications preferences pane provides a better UI for configuring handlers for various file types and protocol schemes.
Improved Platform for Developers
New graphics and font handling: new graphics and text rendering architectures in Gecko 1.9 provides rendering improvements in CSS, SVG as well as improved display of fonts with ligatures and complex scripts.
Color management: (set gfx.color_management.enabled on in about:config and restart the browser to enable.) Firefox can now adjust images with embedded color profiles.
Offline support: enables web applications to provide offline functionality (website authors must add support for offline browsing to their site for this feature to be available to users).
A more complete overview of Firefox 3 for developers (http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Firefox_3_for_developers) is available for website and add-on developers.
Improved Performance
Reliability: A user's bookmarks, history, cookies, and preferences are now stored in a transactionally secure database format which will prevent data loss even if their system crashes.
[Improved in Beta 3!] Speed: Major architectural changes (such as the move to Cairo and a rewrite to how reflowing a page layout works) put foundations in place for major performance tuning which have resulted in speed increases that continue to increase page drawing speed in Beta 3. This release also features over 90 changes that improve performance over the previous beta.
[Improved in Beta 3!] Memory usage: Over 350 individual memory leaks have been plugged, and a new XPCOM cycle collector (http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Interfacing_with_the_XPCOM_cycle_collector) completely eliminates many more. Developers are continuing to work on optimizing memory use (by releasing cached objects more quickly) and reducing fragmentation. Beta 3 includes more than 50 improvements to memory use over the previous beta.
Downloading and Installing &System Requirements Before installing, make sure your computer meets the system requirements (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/system-requirements-v3.html).

Downloading Firefox 3 Beta 3 Mozilla provides Firefox 3 Beta 3 for Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X in a variety of languages. You can get the latest version of Firefox 3 Beta 3 here (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html). For builds for other systems and languages not provided by Mozilla.org, see the Contributed Builds section at the end of this document.

Installing Firefox 3 Beta 3 Please note that installing Firefox 3 Beta 3 [i]will overwrite your existing installation of Firefox on Mac OS X and Linux. On Windows, Firefox 3 Beta 3 installs in a new folder. For all systems, you won't lose any of your bookmarks or browsing history, but some of your extensions and other add-ons might not work until updates for them are made available.

Removing Firefox 3 Beta 3 You can remove Firefox 3 Beta 3 through the Control Panel in the Start Menu on Windows, by removing the Firefox application on OS X, or by removing the firefox folder on Linux.

Removing Firefox 3 Beta 3 won't remove your bookmarks, web browsing history, extensions or other add-ons. This data is stored in your profile folder, which is located in one of the following locations depending on your operating system:

Windows Vista Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox Windows 2000, XP, Server 2003 Documents and Settings\<UserName>\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox Mac OS X ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox Linux and Unix systems ~/.mozilla/firefox Any version of Firefox that you install after removing Firefox 3 Beta 3 will continue to use the data from this profile folder.

Extensions and Themes Extensions installed under previous versions of Firefox may be incompatible and/or require updates to work with Firefox 3 Beta 3. Please report any issues to the maintainer of the extension.

When you install Firefox 3 Beta 3 all of your Extensions and Themes will be disabled until Firefox 3 Beta 3 determines that either a) they are compatible with the Firefox 3 Beta 3 release or B) there are newer versions available that are compatible.

Known Issues This list covers some of the known problems with Firefox 3 Beta 3. Please read this before reporting any new bugs.

All Systems
Windows Live Mail will not work; users must use Hotmail Classic Mail (bug 396259 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396259))
GMail (new version) conversation labels appear on their own row in the message list, and names don't show in the contacts manager (bug 415252 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415252))
Yahoo! Mail (new version) is being updated, and may not work for all users right away. Until it does, users can use Yahoo! Classic Mail (bug 398381 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=398381))
Cannot drag and drop folders in the Places Organizer. For now, users must use cut and paste (bug 405198 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=405198))
MathML does not render properly in Firefox 3 Beta 3 (bug 324857 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324857) and bug 363240 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=363240))
The new Location Bar, Add Bookmark dialog, and Download Manager information popup behave inconsistently with Window-Eyes. JAWS 8.0 or better is recommended for this beta. (bug 393398 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393398))
Resuming downloads can result in an error message if the server doesn't allow a reconnection (bug 401846 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=401846))
Web feeds served as text/html won't load properly (bug 381357 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381357))
After installing some add-ons, the "Restart" button will not appear (bug 414936 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414936))
In some cases add-ons will be loaded after they've been blocked or disabled (bug 406118 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406118))
Using the Internet Download Manager add-on will cause Firefox to crash; it should be disabled or uninstalled (bug 382356 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382356))
Privacy > History > Remember visited pages to "0" has no effect (bug 366075 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366075))
Microsoft Windows
A Windows Media Player (WMP) plugin is not provided with Windows Vista and some other versions of Windows. To view Windows Media content, you must install this plugin by following these instructions (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Windows_Media_Player#Missing_plugin). After installing you may need to check for Windows Updates before the plugin will show content properly.
Folders on the Bookmark Toolbar don't open when an object is dragged over them (bug 337761 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337761))
Downloading multiple files at the same time on a system running the AVG Virus Scanner can cause Firefox to crash (bug 412565 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412565))
Mac OS X
Firefox will frequently stop responding to keystrokes when using Google Documents, Spreadsheets, and Presentations (bug 413882 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413882))
The drop-down menus on the Back and Forward buttons do not work properly (bug 415444 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415444))
Several problems exist when drawing content using Flash Player r60 or higher (bug 395983 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395983))
When creating a new profile, migrating data from Internet Explorer is an option. After migrating data from Safari, bookmarks are stored in an "Imported IE Favorites" folder (bug 413021 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413021))
The Applications folder icon is missing from the DMG of all non en-US builds (bug 416055 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=416055))
Linux and Unix
Printing is broken on many distributions for many websites (bug 414314 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414314))
Users running older distributions will need to update their certificates in order to submit crash reports (see instructions in bug 407748 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=407748#c4))
Browsing SMB shares using older versions of Gnome VFS won't list files with non-ASCII names (bug 255949 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=255949))
The AT-SPI event is not fired when focus is returned to Firefox, which will affect screen readers (bug 415919 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415919))
Troubleshooting
Poorly designed or incompatible extensions can cause problems with your browser, including make it crash, slow down page display, etc. If you encounter strange problems relating to parts of the browser no longer working, the browser not starting, windows with strange or distorted appearance, degraded performance, etc, you may be suffering from Extension or Theme trouble. Restart the browser in Safe Mode. On Windows, start using the "Safe Mode" shortcut created in your Start menu or by running firefox.exe -safe-mode. On Linux, start with ./firefox -safe-mode and on Mac OS X, run: cd /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/
./firefox-bin -safe-mode

When started in Safe Mode all extensions are disabled and the Default theme is used. Disable the Extension/Theme that is causing trouble and then start normally.
If you uninstall an extension that is installed with your user profile (i.e. you installed it from a Web page) and then wish to install it for all user profiles using the -install-global-extension command line flag, you must restart the browser once to cleanse the profile extensions datasource of traces of that extension before installing with the switch. If you do not do this you may end up with a jammed entry in the Extensions list and will be unable to install the extension globally.
If you encounter strange problems relating to bookmarks, downloads, window placement, toolbars, history, or other settings, it is recommended that you try creating a new profile and attempting to reproduce the problem before filing bugs. Create a new profile by running Firefox with the -P command line argument, choose the "Manage Profiles" button and then choose "Create Profile...". Migrate your settings files (Bookmarks, Saved Passwords, etc) over one by one, checking each time to see if the problems resurface. If you do find a particular profile data file is causing a problem, file a bug and attach the file.
Frequently Asked Questions
What can I do to help? We need help from developers and the testing community to provide as much feedback as possible to make Firefox even better. Please read these notes and the bug filing instructions (http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/bugs) before reporting any bugs to Bugzilla (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/). You can also give us your feedback through this feedback form (http://feedback.mozilla.org/).

If you're interested in helping us test pre-release builds, you might want to join our beta test mailing list (http://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Community/Betatesters_Mailing_List).
Why haven't you responded to the mail I sent you? Use the forums (http://forums.mozillazine.org/index.php?c=4). The Firefox team reads them regularly. We all get a lot of email, and your email may get lost.
Where can I get extensions and themes (add-ons)? Extensions (https://en-us.add-ons.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/extensions/) and Themes (https://en-us.add-ons.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/themes/) can be downloaded from Firefox Add-ons (https://en-us.add-ons.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/).
Who makes Firefox 3 Beta 3? Lots of people. See Help->About Mozilla Firefox, Credits for a list of some of the people who have contributed to Firefox 3 Beta 3.
Where's the Firefox 3 Beta 3 source code? A tarball of the Firefox 3 Beta 3 source code is available for download (http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0b3/source/). The latest development code can be obtained by cvs (http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mozilla_Source_Code_Via_CVS). Firefox-specific source is in "mozilla/browser", "mozilla/toolkit", and "mozilla/chrome". Please follow the build instructions (http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Build_Documentation).
Where is the mail client? Firefox 3 Beta 3 works with whatever mail client is the default on your system. However, we recommend Mozilla Thunderbird (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/), our next-generation email client and the perfect complement to Firefox.
Contributed Builds Many localized builds are now produced and distributed by Mozilla.org on behalf of their authors (http://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Localization_Teams). These are available on the Firefox 3 Beta 3 download page (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html).

Builds that have not yet been certified as official Firefox 3 Beta 3 localizations are available by browsing the FTP site (http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0b3/contrib-localized/).

These are unofficial builds and may be configured differently than the official Mozilla.org builds. They may also be optimized and/or tested for specific platforms.

Other Resources and Links The following resources contain useful information about Firefox 3 Beta 3:


MozillaLinks Overview of Firefox 3 Beta 3 (http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/02/a-deep-look-to-firefox-3-beta-3/)
Firefox 3 Project Page (http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3)
MozillaZine's Knowledge Base (http://kb.mozillazine.org/)
Developer Information (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/)
SafeBrowsing Service Privacy Policy (http://code.google.com/apis/safebrowsing/firefox3_privacy.html) (for anti-phishing/anti-malware feature)

Quillz
Sat 16th Feb '08, 3:32pm
I like that Firefox 3 finally appears native on all the major platforms it runs on. Looks especially nice on Ubuntu and Mac OS X.

---MAD---
Sat 16th Feb '08, 4:31pm
Looking good. Any signs on IE8 I wonder?

simsim
Sat 16th Feb '08, 4:39pm
Looking good. Any signs on IE8 I wonder?
Wonder what new features it's gonna have. I had had a big laugh out loud when I saw "Welcome to Tabbed Browsing" first time in IE7.

Floris
Sat 16th Feb '08, 7:00pm
Beta3 runs really like an RC1 on my system, I am quite happy with it. Just a handful of irritating bugs left for me that I run into. (but no showstoppers).

Shining Arcanine
Sat 16th Feb '08, 7:48pm
Wonder what new features it's gonna have. I had had a big laugh out loud when I saw "Welcome to Tabbed Browsing" first time in IE7.

Acid 2 support would be great.

Dream
Sat 16th Feb '08, 9:58pm
Installed Beta 3 and it stole the cookies from the version 2 installation :( had to retype a bunch of passwords.

---MAD---
Sun 17th Feb '08, 7:00am
Installed beta 3 with no problems on windows xp - runs fine.

Chousho
Sun 17th Feb '08, 8:01pm
Acid 2 support would be great.
I thought it did?
http://www.google.com/search?q=firefox+3+acid2+test

Milado
Tue 19th Feb '08, 6:41pm
what is Acid 2?

simsim
Tue 19th Feb '08, 7:39pm
what is Acid 2?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_2_test

rellek
Wed 20th Feb '08, 1:33pm
I thought it did?
http://www.google.com/search?q=firefox+3+acid2+test
I think Shining Arcanine meant IE 8.

Wayne Luke
Wed 20th Feb '08, 1:48pm
I think Shining Arcanine meant IE 8.
According to the IEBlog, IE8 passes Acid 2.

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/12/19/internet-explorer-8-and-acid2-a-milestone.aspx

ManagerJosh
Wed 20th Feb '08, 2:05pm
A part of me wonders whether this version of firefox finally fixed those memory leaks. The last set of memory leaks were getting atrocious and vicious. I've had only the download manager open and it was using 1GB of memory (yes 1Gigabyte).

simsim
Wed 20th Feb '08, 2:14pm
According to the IEBlog, IE8 passes Acid 2.

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/12/19/internet-explorer-8-and-acid2-a-milestone.aspx
There have been very heated discussions over this, but IE8 does not support Acid2 until you insert a proprietary code as an attribute value in a <meta> tag declaration inside a page's markup:

<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=8" />For some hardcore Standard-Compliance frontiers, this meta declaration is not supported by any Standards specification so in their eyes IE8 did not pass Acid2 test. However, it has been widely accepted at the least risk-free opt-in method to pass Acid2 in IE8 without breaking millions of pages that rely on IE's previous buggy rendering engine when users upgrade their old IE to IE8.

Wayne Luke
Wed 20th Feb '08, 2:30pm
That code is what puts IE-8 into standards mode as opposed to Quirks mode because Doctype definitions are failing. Many developers simply added a doctype to their pages and said it was compliant even though specification rules weren't met as laid out. This caused a lot of pages to fail under IE7 with its stricter adherence to CSS rules.

Since you can't trust the Doctype anymore, Microsoft is going a new route. There is a lot of discussion for it but it appears that the meta tag is the favored route at this time. Though you can send a server header to IE as well and forego the meta tag in your actual pages.

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/beyonddoctype
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fromswitchestotargets
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/minorthreat
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/theyshootbrowsers

simsim
Wed 20th Feb '08, 3:34pm
That code is what puts IE-8 into standards mode as opposed to Quirks mode because Doctype definitions are failing. Many developers simply added a doctype to their pages and said it was compliant even though specification rules weren't met as laid out. This caused a lot of pages to fail under IE7 with its stricter adherence to CSS rules.

Since you can't trust the Doctype anymore, Microsoft is going a new route. There is a lot of discussion for it but it appears that the meta tag is the favored route at this time. Though you can send a server header to IE as well and forego the meta tag in your actual pages.
These were my points exactly, however, Standards mode & Quirks mode are Microsoft inventions that are neither required by any Standards specification nor implemented by any other browser vendor. Contrary to Firefox 3 & Opera 9, IE8 passes Acid2 only in its Standards-Mode, which is triggered by adding that meta element. And since Acid2 test doesn't request this, IE8 doesn't really pass that test.

Anyway, I agree with you that it's the best route to go, and many industry leaders have already expressed this as in the links you've provided. Microsoft has to ensure backward compatibility with older versions or their ~80% market share of browser users will migrate to other competitors' products.

simsim
Thu 21st Feb '08, 8:02pm
Well, check the video in this link, Wayne:
http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=367207

It's an interview with Chris Wilson and other primary IE developers. On half of the video, a developer called Alex pointed to a broken image of the Acid2's yellow face image and said that this is IE8 and that it would look exactly like this "when we ship IE8".

Very interesting video, anyway. I downloaded the high quality version (+500MB).

JakeS
Fri 22nd Feb '08, 2:45pm
Guys, FF3B3 passes the a2 test.

simsim
Fri 22nd Feb '08, 3:30pm
That's true. We were talking about IE8 though, which doesn't unless you instruct it to do so by inserting a proprietary declaration in a page's markup.

Chousho
Fri 22nd Feb '08, 3:57pm
Guys, FF3B3 passes the a2 test.
I hope it can pass the Acid 3 test before RC1.

So far Fx 3b hasn't been as stable as I'd like, but hey, it's still a beta. Hopefully beta 4 or what comes next will fix whatever issues are popping up.

Also, the new icons for navigation are different, but pretty cool. I can't wait to get Fx3 on Linux to see how Tango turns out :D

Wayne Luke
Fri 22nd Feb '08, 4:04pm
These were my points exactly, however, Standards mode & Quirks mode are Microsoft inventions that are neither required by any Standards specification nor implemented by any other browser vendor.

Actually Firefox 2 has a standards and quirks mode as well, triggered by doctype. From my understanding most browsers have actually adopted this because without a doctype, you don't even know what standard to try and apply.

rellek
Fri 22nd Feb '08, 5:22pm
I hope it can pass the Acid 3 test before RC1.
Actually they are discussing which bugs are said to be fixed in order to pass acid 3 test.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=410460


Look at how old some of these bugs are :eek:


If you are using Windows, I can recommend "Minefield". It is the trunk-version being updated daily and working pretty well. You may even "watch" the progress in passing acid 3 test. You can find it under mozilla's ftp-server -> latest-trunk.

jobbe
Tue 18th Mar '08, 12:53pm
Beta 4 is out: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html

MrNase
Tue 18th Mar '08, 4:12pm
More than a week ago, yes. ;)

Milado
Tue 18th Mar '08, 7:41pm
I'm using it right now. I'm happy with it, but there is no appropriate versions for plug-ins I'd like to use.

MrNase
Thu 3rd Apr '08, 6:53pm
Beta 5 is out. :)

Floris
Thu 3rd Apr '08, 7:55pm
Upgrade on 10.5.2 went flawless.

foxcompany
Thu 3rd Apr '08, 9:05pm
still too many glitches on firefox beta 3 but its a good browser no doubt.

Floris
Fri 4th Apr '08, 1:43am
So far I've noticed beta5 has issues with flash players on some browsers.

Jerz
Fri 4th Apr '08, 1:48am
I take it you mean beta5 has issues with flash players on some sites??

I personally haven't noticed this. Flash seems fine for me on Leopard 10.5.2 with b5, the latest flash player, and the proto theme.

Floris
Fri 4th Apr '08, 3:10am
On justin.tv for example the player flashes between black in the control and the video sometimes flashes between black. bit strange. some channels it's fine, some it isn't. started happening when i upgraded

Jerz
Fri 4th Apr '08, 10:14am
Ahh, I can see what you're saying now.

Wayne Luke
Fri 4th Apr '08, 11:14am
Latest versions of the Flash player have been wonky no matter what browser/OS you are running. Lots of problems lately with it.

hornstar6969
Fri 4th Apr '08, 8:58pm
I like FF so much already, not sure if im ready for a change lol but it sounds great, ill wait til it goes stable tho.

simsim
Sat 5th Apr '08, 5:59pm
I've just installed it. Looks terrific. Some of the most severe and annoying bugs in rendering RTL pages had finally been fixed.

Quillz
Sun 6th Apr '08, 3:14am
Just installed Beta 5 onto my Vista virtual machine. Looks great. It's also very speedy, I think even faster than the latest nightly WebKit build.