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LGNetw0rk
Tue 27th Nov '07, 4:44pm
I just got the strange idea of having "sticky" public messages. It would be set by the administrator if it is allowed or not.

When in use, the user would have the option to enable one public message on their own profile that does not get bumped down from other people commenting. It could be used for things like quick notices, status (vacation, work, etc.), mood, welcome messages/bigger biography, and other not-so-permanent things, all in one. :)

Shanj
Tue 27th Nov '07, 4:46pm
I just got the strange idea of having "sticky" public messages. It would be set by the administrator if it is allowed or not.

When in use, the user would have the option to enable one public message on their own profile that does not get bumped down from other people commenting. It could be used for things like quick notices, status (vacation, work, etc.), mood, welcome messages/bigger biography, and other not-so-permanent things, all in one. :)

YES! I already found the need of this on this demo today.

cemartin
Tue 27th Nov '07, 4:46pm
That is actually quite a good idea! :) +1 for it.

Lizard King
Tue 27th Nov '07, 4:47pm
I think it is not needed in any case.

Wayne Luke
Tue 27th Nov '07, 4:48pm
YES! I already found the need of this on this demo today.

This is not a demo.. It is a live working site.

cemartin
Tue 27th Nov '07, 4:58pm
I think it is not needed in any case.

May I ask as to why you feel that this feature is, "not needed"? :)

Chris

Lizard King
Tue 27th Nov '07, 4:59pm
Because that is not a forumdisplay page or something similar. You can already have all the information you want within your profile. Why repeat it again within your comments.

Wayne Luke
Tue 27th Nov '07, 5:00pm
What would really be the purpose? It is more like a shoutbox type functionality than anything permanent.

LGNetw0rk
Tue 27th Nov '07, 5:00pm
Because that is not a forumdisplay page or something similar. You can already have all the information you want within your profile. Why repeat it again within your comments.
I do believe the only thing that would optionally be repeated is the extra biography bit.

Remember, my suggestion was the part about having one of your comments pinned to the top, what you do with it is totally up to you.

cemartin
Tue 27th Nov '07, 5:02pm
Well, it would just be a nice "additional" feature to have, for those who wish to use it. Obviously, the public messaging system should not be used and/or viewed as an actual forum, per say, but a sticky feature is something that would be fun, and maybe even useful to some (IMO, of course). :)

Chris

ManagerJosh
Tue 27th Nov '07, 5:03pm
I really don't see myself making a public message requiring a sticky for either myself OR a group.

I do however seeing maybe a small little group news section though that could be frequently updated with latest news of a group.

LGNetw0rk
Tue 27th Nov '07, 5:04pm
What would really be the purpose? It is more like a shoutbox type functionality than anything permanent.
Like I said above, you can do anything with it. I don't see how this could be a bad thing. It is basically the same exact thing as a public message, but with the ability to keep it at the top of your profile for however long you want.

"I'll be on vacation this week, guys! See you when I return!"

"I have launched and new website recently, feedback is welcome!"

"Welcome to my profile! I do this and this and have that and use this..."

"Wow, all I have to say is "Live Free or Die Hard" is amazing!"

Also, think forums with specific niches. Like the last quote, on a TV forum...

Lizard King
Tue 27th Nov '07, 5:04pm
I really don't see myself making a public message requiring a sticky for either myself OR a group.

I do however seeing maybe a small little group news section though that could be frequently updated with latest news of a group.
Which can be groups own blog ;)

LGNetw0rk
Tue 27th Nov '07, 5:05pm
Seems none of you like my suggestion, but the other hundred that have been made are fine, interesting.

Maybe I forgot to mention that you don't have to use it...

Lizard King
Tue 27th Nov '07, 5:06pm
Maybe you forget that Jelsoft don't have to code it for you ;)

LGNetw0rk
Tue 27th Nov '07, 5:10pm
Nor did Jelsoft "code an independent tag system"... :(

Shanj
Tue 27th Nov '07, 10:39pm
Lizard go lie under a sun lamp and soothe your aches and pains!

This idea could be very useful. It's much better than having the info in a blog or in your profile data BECAUSE it's on central display! The Messages are about the strongest area of the page apart from pics.
So an announcement there is going to get noticed.

For example I put a message saying "Hey visitors be polite and say hello!"
But it's disappearing because they ARE saying hello.

It's just like the announcement feature at top of a forum. It would be there for if you want to be sure this item of text is noticed. That could be loads of things. Or for yopu personally, not.

And by the way Jelsoft DO have to code the way we want, within reason. Otherwise we don't buy. Tough but true. I've been running a business for 30 years and thats the bottom line. I don't always agree with what my clients want but boy do I have to respect it and build it in just as far as I can. If you're running your site as a free hobby thats different. But money talks a different language.
But to be fair I generally get the feeling that Jelsoft listens for rather more than money reasons.

LGNetw0rk
Tue 27th Nov '07, 10:43pm
It's alright, he is the first I've ever used the ignore system for. :p

It could be used for anything; endless uses, really. I mean, a lot of things suggested in this forum could be used with this - all at once. And Lizard mentioned using the blog... well, most forums do not have the blog installed, so I don't know how that would work. You also do not need to use this, obviously, so I don't see what the big deal would be if it were there and you didn't need it.

Lizard King
Wed 28th Nov '07, 5:38am
Lizard go lie under a sun lamp and soothe your aches and pains!

This idea could be very useful. It's much better than having the info in a blog or in your profile data BECAUSE it's on central display! The Messages are about the strongest area of the page apart from pics.
So an announcement there is going to get noticed.

For example I put a message saying "Hey visitors be polite and say hello!"
But it's disappearing because they ARE saying hello.

It's just like the announcement feature at top of a forum. It would be there for if you want to be sure this item of text is noticed. That could be loads of things. Or for yopu personally, not.

And by the way Jelsoft DO have to code the way we want, within reason. Otherwise we don't buy. Tough but true. I've been running a business for 30 years and thats the bottom line. I don't always agree with what my clients want but boy do I have to respect it and build it in just as far as I can. If you're running your site as a free hobby thats different. But money talks a different language.
But to be fair I generally get the feeling that Jelsoft listens for rather more than money reasons.
Everyone has different thoughts. You may find this usefull i don't . I put my point on the table. You shall respect it or not.

---MAD---
Wed 28th Nov '07, 6:15am
I don't really see the need for this myself as any mood sort of thing should go in your profile "About me" area. Infact if you were to edit the template you could probably set it so that you have a profile field called "mood" or whatever and displayed on the front page of all profiles (for example).

Floris
Wed 28th Nov '07, 6:25am
I don't really see the need for this myself as any mood sort of thing should go in your profile "About me" area. Infact if you were to edit the template you could probably set it so that you have a profile field called "mood" or whatever and displayed on the front page of all profiles (for example).
I agree, a custom profile field for 'gender', and 'mood', and 'my favorite band', etc .. could be added to be optional and shown in the public profile. 3.7 will include custom profile field-categories (as was given away in the 3.6 profile field manager)

Grover
Wed 28th Nov '07, 7:54am
3.7 will include bbcode-categories (as was given away in the 3.6 bbcode manager)

Brilliant! (assuming that what you have stated here is the thing I wished for...): I was waiting (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1091702&postcount=4) for this. :cool:

Mike Sullivan
Wed 28th Nov '07, 8:05am
Don't know why he said BB code. He meant "profile field [categories]".

Floris
Wed 28th Nov '07, 8:06am
Brilliant! (assuming that what you have stated here is the thing I wished for...): I was waiting (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1091702&postcount=4) for this. :cool:
We were talking custom profile fields, I mixed it up (up too long).

Grover
Wed 28th Nov '07, 8:17am
We were talking custom profile fields, I mixed it up (up too long).

Haha. No problem. I am too excited about all the great new vB 3.7 features that hearing that bbcode categories isn't in doesn't make me sleep any less. ;) Those new vB SN-features are far more important than some BBCode categories...

Anthony89
Wed 28th Nov '07, 10:51am
Because that is not a forumdisplay page or something similar. You can already have all the information you want within your profile. Why repeat it again within your comments.
I agree with him.

Shanj
Wed 28th Nov '07, 11:35am
Originally Posted by Lizard King http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1455291#post1455291)
Because that is not a forumdisplay page or something similar. You can already have all the information you want within your profile. Why repeat it again within your comments.
Anthony: I agree with him.

Not good enuff. Stuff hidden under tabs isn't OBVIOUS. Whole point of sticky and openly displayed messages is OBVIOUSITY (!)

Lizard King
Wed 28th Nov '07, 12:14pm
As i stated earlier . This may be something you need. You can code it yourself , request it from vbulletin.org . Look at any social site they don't have anything similar. Why ? Because it is not a good or top needed feature. It is useless as hell.

Analogpoint
Wed 28th Nov '07, 12:17pm
OBVIOUSITY (!)

Sweet :D

Shanj
Wed 28th Nov '07, 1:41pm
It is useless as hell.

Lizard mind your manners. Everyone else is managing to be polite so you can too.
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A sticky message is not only fun. It acts as a Notice to visitors. Like a news item on a forum.
EXAMPLES

I'm away til 5th August.
I'll be in the chatroom as usual Weds but not Friday.
My business forum is www.mybusiness.com (http://www.mybusiness.com) Its services are xyz.
Current discount offer is xxxxxxxxx.
Please contact DavidR about XYZ. I'm dealing with the ABC aspect.
Please do not ask about XYZ this is not my concern.
Please do not ask about XYZ that's not my Group. You can find that one HERE.
My latest book is xxxxx/ My latest film is xxxx My latest CD is xxxxx
My vbulletin installs are www. www. www. and www.
My preferred VB mods are xxxx xxxx xxxx and xxxx.
Have a look at my new Group XYZ it's getting lively! (see bottom right)
My latest blog is about xyz.
Please check THIS THREAD for xyz issue that concerns me. + Details.
Sorry I am not accepting new Friends at the moment.
Visitors -welcome! please leave a hello message.

Just a quick few without really thinking hard.

Lizard King
Wed 28th Nov '07, 1:52pm
You can have all that information within your profile. No need for another mod but yet again if you need such feature you can hire someone to do it for you. As you i am also a customer and i dont want the product i am using fulled with useless things.

EnIgMa79
Wed 28th Nov '07, 2:02pm
Yea its not really needed. A news modifcation can easily made by editing the memberinfo template. Request it on vbulletin.org and someone may make it. I am thinking about making it but we'll see :D.

Onimua
Wed 28th Nov '07, 2:43pm
I don't know... instead of using the public messages and sticking one to display notices or miscellaneous shout outs or other information, I think it would be better to perhaps use something like the new navbar notices feature: As in, in our User CP, we could have a text box that would allow us to make our own little message, and it would display in only our profile (perhaps above the tabs). That way it's above all the public messages, editable by us, and we could put whatever additional information we want there for others to see (from saying I'm going on vacation to a quote of the day I found interesting).

I think that's more efficient than posting a public message to myself and then sticking it to the top of all the others.

LGNetw0rk
Wed 28th Nov '07, 2:55pm
I don't know... instead of using the public messages and sticking one to display notices or miscellaneous shout outs or other information, I think it would be better to perhaps use something like the new navbar notices feature: As in, in our User CP, we could have a text box that would allow us to make our own little message, and it would display in only our profile (perhaps above the tabs). That way it's above all the public messages, editable by us, and we could put whatever additional information we want there for others to see (from saying I'm going on vacation to a quote of the day I found interesting).

I think that's more efficient than posting a public message to myself and then sticking it to the top of all the others.
Actually, yes, I like this idea much better than my original version. This would make it stand out from normal profile comments and it would also "match", if you will, the rest of vBulletin (assuming your forum uses the new notice feature somewhere else.) Great idea. :)

Lizard King
Wed 28th Nov '07, 3:28pm
I don't know... instead of using the public messages and sticking one to display notices or miscellaneous shout outs or other information, I think it would be better to perhaps use something like the new navbar notices feature: As in, in our User CP, we could have a text box that would allow us to make our own little message, and it would display in only our profile (perhaps above the tabs). That way it's above all the public messages, editable by us, and we could put whatever additional information we want there for others to see (from saying I'm going on vacation to a quote of the day I found interesting).

I think that's more efficient than posting a public message to myself and then sticking it to the top of all the others.
That is why we have custom profile fields.

Onimua
Wed 28th Nov '07, 3:32pm
I'm aware, but it's a suggestion for something to be default. :)