vBulletin 3.7 First Look Discussion

[RvG]

There are many features by IPB (http://www.invisionpower.com).
IPB use these features since the months!

have a look here... www.big-boards.com (http://www.big-boards.com)

http://rankings.big-boards.com/?filter=Invision,all&p=13 - IPB 246 only??? :rolleyes:

http://rankings.big-boards.com/?filter=vBulletin,all&p=60 - vB 1184 ;) cool!

If admins have all the features they wanted to... why vB is dominating the big boards market?

Now let's see where IPB will stand after vB release our 3.7. :cool:

[lucky51]

Thank For the release can't wait to get it :D

[Floris]

Actually .. http://www.big-boards.com/statistics/

Top 10 biggest boards reported/listed on big-boards.com : 778
266 + 237 + 104 + 42 + 40 + 37 + 17 + 16 + 12 + 7 = 778

With vBulletin as #1 = 1216

So, all top 10 boards together(!) are not even close to vb's first position according to that list.

[PixelFX]

Hey Floris,
long time no chat, whats it take to become a private tester? :D

Rob

[Floris]

Hey Floris,
long time no chat, whats it take to become a private tester? :D

Rob
See post 500

[Mr_Bob]

Wow, simply just plain WOW! This is certainly looking to be one of the best releases yet, if not the best. Just an add-in, give us the ability to combine verification methods such as requiring both reCAPTCHA and questions, etc. Why, some of us are just that crazy :D. I'm renewing my download access the moment 3.7 hits beta.

[Floris]

Wow, simply just plain WOW! This is certainly looking to be one of the best releases yet, if not the best. Just an add-in, give us the ability to combine verification methods such as requiring both reCAPTCHA and questions, etc. Why, some of us are just that crazy :D. I'm renewing my download access the moment 3.7 hits beta.
And then to imagine the screenshots only give away a little bit of the full feature. Using it live will disclose more permissions, options, and perhaps more features. You will all see on Monday :) In my timezone it's already Sunday, maybe I should take a sleeping pill and wake up Monday to 3.7 on vBcom :D

[Freesteyelz]

And then to imagine the screenshots only give away a little bit of the full feature. Using it live will disclose more permissions, options, and perhaps more features.


Teaser. :D

[Redseal]

Looks fantastic, can't wait to run it.

[tawnygirl]

I agree, especially for newcomers it is nicer to have a few features built-in then telling them to go look at an unofficial mod. But don't get me wrong. It is great that there's a resource community for those who wish to get more out of their forum. I am not trying to dish anybody here.

Absolutely! :D I didn't mean to disrespect the authors of the mods either, I'm so very thankful for all they contribute! I hope to someday be able to give back to this community, to maybe compensate for all it's given me. :)


Each upgrade so far in history has not been a problem .. for example, the FAQ or Calendar does not stop working when you go from 3.5 to 3.6..

Good to know, thanks! To me this means that the more features they add, the less work I'll have to do at update time! Less work = good ;)


And then to imagine the screenshots only give away a little bit of the full feature. Using it live will disclose more permissions, options, and perhaps more features. You will all see on Monday :) In my timezone it's already Sunday, maybe I should take a sleeping pill and wake up Monday to 3.7 on vBcom :D


LOL! The more I read about it, the harder I work to make sure I'm ready to update this puppy! I'm especially happy about:
Custom icons per forum (YAY!)
Advertisement locations defined in templates
Picture gallery?!?!?!
Hooks to allow attachments to be passed through a virus scanner
Social bookmarking (YAY!)Ok, n/m... it's ALL great. Here's to a speedy release now that we're all drooling! LOL

[Analogpoint]

thanks for reply
I was asking about 2 thing
1- is public massege as guestbook?
2-most of social network have chat is there any plane to add it as a plug in?
thanks
1. As Floris already said, the public messaging can be thought of as a guestbook or public comments on each user's profile page.
2. No idea. :)


Why? What does that gain?
Well, which is it? Do you want to use mod_deflate or not? Anyway, my response, while mildly sarcastic WAS an answer. Told you what to do and it would not only take care of your issue, but make things a heck of a lot better. Don't dismiss the answer because it was something different than what you were wanting to get. When I installed mod_deflate on my company's web server, things went down far more than I anticipated. [concerning packing & compressing javascript files.] I definitely think that javascript should be (1) 'minified' (stripping comments, unneeded whitespace, and shortening variable names) and (2) compressed (gzip or deflate). Not so much to save bandwidth, but to speed up page load times. Return visitors will have many files in their browser's cache, but a good portion of visitors are first/one-time visitors.


Don't make that standard. I have several places on my main website tied into the forums- and if you take away the existing functionality, it will break a lot of my website.
I rather like the way URL's are now, anyway.
[concerning human-readable URLs] I think vB should have built-in options for how URLs are generated, and allow the admin to pick one style.

/showthread.php?t=999
/thread/2007/11/999
/thread/999
/thread/999-the-threads-title.html

The administrator can use the default URLs with variables, or create their own URL structure using predefined variables such as {year} {month} {day} {forumid} {forumslug} {threadtitle} {threadid}

Then have a .htaccess file pass the entire request uri to vBulletin, and based on the structure, it deciphers what thread/page to display. Should work like a charm.

That's so good, I'm going to copy it to the suggestions forum (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1452200#post1452200) :)

[jw0ollard]

Why? What does that gain?

What do you mean what does this gain? Do you not know the basics of compressing JavaScript? It works a lot better than using mod_gzip (or any other gzip method) or mod_deflate can achieve alone, and if you would have followed the link, you'd see there is a significant gain in using compressed JS + mod_(insert compressor of choice here).



Well, which is it? Do you want to use mod_deflate or not? Anyway, my response, while mildly sarcastic WAS an answer. Told you what to do and it would not only take care of your issue, but make things a heck of a lot better. Don't dismiss the answer because it was something different than what you were wanting to get. When I installed mod_deflate on my company's web server, things went down far more than I anticipated.

Seriously now? I said multiple times I can't USE mod_deflate. So #1, please tell me where I say I want to use it--your "Well, which is it?" was rude and unnecessary. And #2, how is telling someone to use mod_deflate when they're specifically asking about offering PACKED js files an answer? Mod_deflate is not a solution for packing JS files last I checked.

I'm dismissing the answer based on the fact that what I asked required a fairly straightforward "YES OR NO" answer, not for me to use an Apache module that will just increase server load and do only half the job that simply packing the JS in the first place would.

I'm sorry if you don't get this, but be forewarned I'm not going to respond to this again. This isn't a suggestions thread and I'm sorry that I've had to continually explain myself repeatedly just to get the point across that I'm not talking about mod_(random Apache compressor).

And I really hope the next answer is NOT "packed JS hinders performance". Follow the link I posted, read up a little bit on the YUI Compressor and realize that it does quite a good job at cutting filesize roughly in half while still skipping the packing of a few select functions to keep performance up to par with uncompressed JS source.

Oh, forgot to mention that I'm also dismissing your answer based on the fact that you're not a developer, and last time I checked you don't have access to 3.7, the new YUI JS, and the 3.7 clientscript folder... so I'm fairly certain you can't tell me whether anything has been done to streamline the JS. THANK YOU.

[Dream]

Seems this new release is getting a lot of attention, and most people seem to like it.

Adding more features to vBulletin should be a Jelsoft priority.

[Wayne Luke]

Oh, forgot to mention that I'm also dismissing your answer based on the fact that you're not a developer, and last time I checked you don't have access to 3.7, the new YUI JS, and the 3.7 clientscript folder... so I'm fairly certain you can't tell me whether anything has been done to streamline the JS. THANK YOU.

As far as I am aware, we have no plans to compress the javascript at this time. You can make such a suggestion in the suggestion forums for the developers to look at. I am not sure it is feasible since the files are basically created when the ZIP file is requested for download.

[jw0ollard]

As far as I am aware, we have no plans to compress the javascript at this time. You can make such a suggestion in the suggestion forums for the developers to look at. I am not sure it is feasible since the files are basically created when the ZIP file is requested for download.

Thank you. I wasn't sure how you guys handle that sort of thing. I had talked about at least offering the JS source in its "packed" versions, then if someone would want to implement it, it would just require doing some search/replace to add the ".packed" to the filename.

But, if it can't be implemented into the download, I guess I won't bother suggesting it. :)

[Analogpoint]

As far as I am aware, we have no plans to compress the javascript at this time. You can make such a suggestion in the suggestion forums for the developers to look at. I am not sure it is feasible since the files are basically created when the ZIP file is requested for download.


Thank you. I wasn't sure how you guys handle that sort of thing. I had talked about at least offering the JS source in its "packed" versions, then if someone would want to implement it, it would just require doing some search/replace to add the ".packed" to the filename.

But, if it can't be implemented into the download, I guess I won't bother suggesting it. :)

It *can* be implemented into the download process even if the zip is being created on the fly, and even thought I personally don't know how the download process works internally. :)

Here's a good read and a good option: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/compressor/

[Dave Hawley]

What would be reasonable time frame to upgrade to 3.7? That is, I want to ensure all bugs are security risks are fixed and don't want to be installing patches each week.

[jw0ollard]

It *can* be implemented into the download process even if the zip is being created on the fly, and even thought I personally don't know how the download process works internally. :)

Here's a good read and a good option: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/compressor/

Somebody level headed! :)

I've already mentioned the YUI compressor about 4-5x now and no one seemed to care. =p

[Analogpoint]

What would be reasonable time frame to upgrade to 3.7? That is, I want to ensure all bugs are security risks are fixed and don't want to be installing patches each week.

That's for you to decide. You might want to give it 2 or 3 weeks. I personally will install beta (at least on a test board) within hours of release :cool:

[Alien]

Hey, this sounds great you guys.. I like the majority of changes here..

I do have a question on thread prefixes.. Will we have the option of using images instead of using text? We were about to move to prefix images on one of my sites and would love to do it using core code instead...

[Freesteyelz]

What would be reasonable time frame to upgrade to 3.7? That is, I want to ensure all bugs are security risks are fixed and don't want to be installing patches each week.


Waiting for the gold release will be your best bet but even then there may be occasional bug and security patches. Yet, I'm with Analogpoint and will play with the beta version as soon as it becomes available. :)

[جوجو عسول]

chat box ?? for the Members ??

[Dave Hawley]

That's for you to decide. You might want to give it 2 or 3 weeks. I personally will install beta (at least on a test board) within hours of release :cool:That's what I'm trying to do (decide) by asking here!

[Dave Hawley]

Waiting for the gold release will be your best bet but even then there may be occasional bug and security patches. Yet, I'm with Analogpoint and will play with the beta version as soon as it becomes available. :)Thanks!

[RvG]

is there upcoming version of vBulletin Blog complimented to work with vB 3.7 :)

of corz what I mean here if blogs will show up in the new profiles etc etc.

[-=Moosa=-]

Cant Wait!
vBulletin rocks

[vissa]

Wow, everything I've been looking for! It really is the Christmas Season!!!!

-vissa

[RvG]

Offtopic :) : how many hours left as of this post?

[---MAD---]

is there upcoming version of vBulletin Blog complimented to work with vB 3.7 :)

of corz what I mean here if blogs will show up in the new profiles etc etc.
I believe the next feature version for the blog will be released a few weeks after 3.7 is released as stable (gold) :).

There will off course be a blog/project tools version released for 3.7.x to make use of new features etc - according to the devs :).

[edenx]

I believe the next feature version for the blog will be released a few weeks after 3.7 is released as stable (gold) :).

There will off course be a blog/project tools version released for 3.7.x to make use of new features etc - according to the devs :).

I wish a better style exists

[edenx]

It is comparable to the welcome header mod yes, but it is much more. It has proper conditionals, and just like you said, it can be used for a lot more such as announcements.

Make this conditionals work for emailing members! :D

[iCafe]

so good it's cool.

[Easyskillz]

Hey guys, will we be able to TAG A person on a picture ?

[jigger]

Release date? No one knows, but this might give you a rough estimate:

The blog addon was installed on July 5th 2007. The beta was available for download on August 29th, but it was already a stable version.

The first beta of version 3.6 was available for download 7 days after it has been installed on vb.com (May 31st 2006 installation, June 7th download).

Version 3.5 was installed on May 22nd 2005. The beta was available on June 9th.

Version 3.0 was installed on June 13th 2003. It was available for download on June 13th.



The public release will be as soon as its stable, we don't have deadlines that sacrifice stability for customers. Though I fully expect it to be well before April which is spring.


I wish to get it by Christmas! But please do not postpone the release just to have a Christmas present for us. We will be grateful to get it earlier. You could release the stable version on Christmas day instead. Moreover there are quite a few European customers here. What about a present for Saint Nicholas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas) day (December 6th)? :D

[ragtek]

Hey guys, will we be able to TAG A person on a picture ?
yea
that would be cool
like on www.studivz.net

[assassin85]

that's all cool but we still hope the vbulletin style turn into web 2.0

[Zachery]

that's all cool but we still hope the vbulletin style turn into web 2.0
There will be no major style changes untill vBulletin 4.0. Stop asking ;)

[sensimilla]

Amazing, everything that a social networking site should have!
You should release it ASAP before competition implement it.

BTW most of hacks were previously released bycoders, will they b payed for ideas? :rolleyes:

[Spinball]

Some really awesome changes - I'm really excited about the new version.
Good also to see the vB team giving us some official anti-spam tools.
It was me who requested & specified (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=76363) the first one-click anti spam hack at vB.org and badgered a coder to write and release it (Spam Killer 3000 hack by zsdave), updated as Spam Decimator Version 1.0.5 by RaidenDAWG2 and then most recently One-touch Spam Ban and Cleanup (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=156444&highlight=one+touch) by Mark Fyvie.
It is useful to be able to move all the spam to a holding 'Spam Pit' forum rather than delete it.
It would also be useful to be able to see a list of other users who have used the IP addresses to see if they have been banned.
Basically if the IP address used here has only been used by spammers, we ban it. An option to quickly do this would be cool, too.

[bboy]

Color me amazed! I will have to renewing some licenses soon! ;) Thread prefixes, no spam Q&A...awesome! The only thing I'm not seeing on the list is SEF URL's. Any chance of this showing up?

This is looking fantastic and can only lead to a great 4.0! Keep up the great work guys.

[bryan0070]

are you guys gonna put this site down for upgrade changes soon

[---MAD---]

are you guys gonna put this site down for upgrade changes soon
Thats tomorrow ;). I doubt it takes long anyway since this forum uses default files etc.

[sabret00the]

A LOT of hacks got swallowed up with this one. nice work guys.

[Marcos2]

I am so damn impressed by what you all have done! I love the new features and can't wait to see them all. I hope we can move around the profile field boxes so that, for example, we can put the "Useful Information" box at the top above photo albums, etc.

http://files.vbulletin.com/3.7/new-memberinfo-b.png

[swissbob]

Given that vB is now offering social networking as an integral part, is there any chance of an optional alternative front page that concentrates on the social aspects, rather than the forum?

[AH Modding]

Obviously I am not allowed to advertise, but I think it would be cool if vB in 4.0 had drag and drop widgets in profiles, and ability to add widgets. I developed this for IPB ages ago, would be cool for vbulletin aswell!

Have to admit, updates look really cool!

[bboy]

Given that vB is now offering social networking as an integral part, is there any chance of an optional alternative front page that concentrates on the social aspects, rather than the forum?

I am in agreement here....since vBulletin is getting a breath of fresh air with v3.7 it would be cool to something more brought to the front page instead of just the option for showing the forums.

If not, perhaps this is a cue for vbadvanced to get working in a new release. ;)

[LSIntegra94]

This is certainly another reason to look forward to v 4.0. I hope that there's a visual change as well. The current style is a bit too "hard" in my opinion.



There will be no major style changes untill vBulletin 4.0. Stop asking ;)

[bmn]

Nice stuff. Now it's time to report bugs and go to new release after people stops reporting bugs. :)
It is same for other software. Wait for vista, wait for updates and fixes and go. :)

It is really different from 3.6, that's nice.
Looking forward to see in development.

vBulletin gives what we want, so we want more. :)

[Drakah]

Wow, I must say you really put a lot of nice new things in, cant wait to try it out :)

Btw, is there a way, or will there be a way, of changing the original thread date "on the fly"? I have several sticky threads that I append and update but I would like to change the original 2004 date to current :)

[Wayne Luke]

Somebody level headed! :)

I've already mentioned the YUI compressor about 4-5x now and no one seemed to care. =p

I saw what you mentioned. However we don't have JAVA installed on our servers. I don't know if it is possible to install JAVA on our servers without causing problems with other running applications. And what I said is "I don't think it is possible at this time" and to make the suggestion. If you don't make the suggestion then the developers won't evaluate whether changing the server architecture is worth the overall benefits.

What I suggested (e.g. using mod_deflate, though mod_gzip would work as well) was an immediate bandwidth reduction that can be implemented as a workaround, without waiting for vBulletin. You can take it or leave it, as I was only trying to help.

[corman420]

Can anyone join the beta program? I would definatley love to test these awesome new features...

[Wayne Luke]

What would be reasonable time frame to upgrade to 3.7? That is, I want to ensure all bugs are security risks are fixed and don't want to be installing patches each week.

Depends on your needs. I have a forum in development and will be upgrading as soon as the beta hits the streets.

[Wayne Luke]

BTW most of hacks were previously released bycoders, will they b payed for ideas? :rolleyes:

We don't reuse hacks. Most of the ideas came from Social Networking sites like Facebook.com.

[AH Modding]

If its anything like other company betas, you will need to sign a NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) which is like a contract saying that if you mention anything you learn whilst in the beta program that the public doesn't know about, you will get in heaps of trouble :)

[Wayne Luke]

If its anything like other company betas, you will need to sign a NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) which is like a contract saying that if you mention anything you learn whilst in the beta program that the public doesn't know about, you will get in heaps of trouble :)
For vBulletin, we usually have an open beta for all customers to participate in. We only have closed betas for major releases to remove major kinks or new products. Even then we encourage our beta tests to at least use it in a semi-live environment at some point.

[gizmos]

This looks so cool, but i have 2 questions " I know you might not be able to say"

1, Will an automated backup of the database function be included??
2, will you be able to automatically create threads in a given forum with a given heading??

Can not wait to play with it

[Wayne Luke]

This looks so cool, but i have 2 questions " I know you might not be able to say"

1, Will an automated backup of the database function be included??
2, will you be able to automatically create threads in a given forum with a given heading??

Can not wait to play with it
1) We have included a shell script since before vBulletin 3.0 was released that can be setup as a cronjob for automatic backups of your database. We do not recommend automatic unattended backups via PHP or the Admin CP.

2) I don't know what you mean by automatically. Aside from the RSS Poster Bot, there is no way to automatically create threads in vBulletin.

[Kevlar]

I've never really been one to jump into the beta program because of the size of our forum ( being a big board it tends to expose problems rather quickly ) ... but the features included in 3.7 are very tempting and almost worth the risk.

Decisions decisions...

[rellek]

I've got a little question.

I'm using the prefix-hack by Mystics (click me (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=123033&highlight=prefix)). Would you think it's possible to give the installer the possibility to import existing prefixes (for forums and threads) while upgrading? Would be very handy! :)

[AWS]

I was part of the 3.0 beta test group and ran every beta released on a big board. To double my pleasure I also run Windows and IIS. Problems and bugs were minimal at best and the ones found were fixed rather quickly by the devs once you posted them in the private beta forum.

[jw0ollard]

I saw what you mentioned. However we don't have JAVA installed on our servers. I don't know if it is possible to install JAVA on our servers without causing problems with other running applications. And what I said is "I don't think it is possible at this time" and to make the suggestion. If you don't make the suggestion then the developers won't evaluate whether changing the server architecture is worth the overall benefits.

My comments were not directed toward you. However, nobody actually did directly reply to my YUI Compressor comments until Analogpoint replied, hence my comment "...and nobody seemed to care.". My other comment was directed toward.. well, directed toward somebody else who was being rude to me for asking a straightforward question. :) I appreciate that you offered alternatives, and I appreciate that you didn't jump down my throat when I tried to clarify my actual question (unlike the other person.) :D

And like I said before I'll think about making the suggestion over in the appropriate forum, but I honestly don't want to waste my time if it would take such significant changes to your servers (aka it would never happen in a million years. =p)

In all honesty, I guess I'll just have to take the time to go through the files and at least remove all the whitespace and comments, and maybe at least pack any files which don't rely on functions or variables inside of other files (if there even are any). I guess also putting all the JS into one large file, then packing it may keep the functions/variables consistent throughout each file, then I could split them back into their separate files. HAHA too much work. :eek:

[SoberNClean]

For vBulletin, we usually have an open beta for all customers to participate in. We only have closed betas for major releases to remove major kinks or new products. Even then we encourage our beta tests to at least use it in a semi-live environment at some point.

Well than how would we go about this? I have a really small board that only has 11 members right not and this might be a good place to test all of the things that need testing and my other board has a little over 100 members so that might be useful also.

[Gladius]

If the first question hasn't been stipulated in the announcement, then this has been done on purpose, I am not at liberty to say. Maybe you get lucky and a dev replies yes or no.

And yes, you can change the description of an album image in the form of a title basically, which as per the screenshot in the announcement shows in italic below the image.

Thanks, that's all I urgently needed to know. :D I've seen that italic text on the pic, but it looked more like some auto-generated code than a proper title, so I wasn't sure. Thanks for confirming it.

[Shanj]

Re a forum for a Group:

An admin could easily set up a forum that won't show in the forum list, but is still open if you know the url. And then go to the group and as description set ' discussions go here, post your comments below ', and your group has become a discussion forum for that group. The group itself will post the last discussion at the top of the list. It will not host multiple discussions such as threads. Because if you want threads about a topic, ... you start a forum for it.

Sorry Floris that is REALLY clunky.
Why can't a new group automatically get a new forum whose members are the members of the group?
The forum appears at bottom of forum stack for easy location OR optionally in admin set container forum perhaps called Special Groups/ tagline "These forums are for private groups which you can join [like this]."
Call for a mod here I think.

[Shanj]

I want to set up another VB on another site. Would be happy to try out the beta for this to learn it.
Do I wait trill the beta is available then buy a second licence then download off a beta link?

[noppid]

Very good announcement. There are many welcome features coming and not a moment too soon. I needed to see this materialize myself, the wait was getting where it seemed the timelyness would be too little too late. Seeing an actual date of the showing was a welcome change in policy as well.

I look forward to seeing and trying implementation.

Congrats.

[jw0ollard]

Has the "Separate sticky and normal threads" been re-implemented into vBulletin perchance? :) You've added things similar to the Recaptcha and "NoSpam" mods which have far less installs than the separate stickies mod, if this were based on popularity. ;)

If I'm not mistaken this WAS a feature of 2.x and then was taken out? I could be wrong.. my friend's forum is still on 2.3.x and the stickies are separated, it could be a mod but I've seen the ACP and didn't think there were that many edited templates.

Regardless, it'd be nice to have one less Product in my ACP! :cool:

[Ba$im]

I hope there are plane for advert plug in:(

[RvG]

Has the "Separate sticky and normal threads" been re-implemented into vBulletin perchance? :) You've added things similar to the Recaptcha and "NoSpam" mods which have far less installs than the separate stickies mod, if this were based on popularity. ;)

If I'm not mistaken this WAS a feature of 2.x and then was taken out? I could be wrong.. my friend's forum is still on 2.3.x and the stickies are separated, it could be a mod but I've seen the ACP and didn't think there were that many edited templates.

Regardless, it'd be nice to have one less Product in my ACP! :cool:

maybe it's included already in 3.7 :rolleyes: ... we'll see then. If fact, this has to be installed by default.

[AT Hikers Online]

This is cool stuff, I just got a Vb license a few days ago. I was having a hard time deciding between Vb or Invision, now I know I made the right choice. Can't wait to try out the beta in a few days.

[Anthony89]

I am quite happy that the social networking was included with 3.7 not as an add-on. I am looking forward to the beta. :)

[telc]

http://www.imagetr.org/out.php/i9212_threadprefixes.gif


Will we be able to prune bases on thread prefixes?

For example say I have have threads prefixed with "How To", can I prune all posts in a forum and ignore "How To" threads from the prune? This would be a great feature.

[ThreeD]

Great job, I love it :)

Three questions though,

1) What about search engine friendly URL's?

2) Is the code base in 3.7 a lot different from the one in 3.6.8? The reason I'm asking is because we use a lot of small code snippets that depend on default vbulletin code, ie "Total time spent on board", "Total # of threads started" etc. When we upgrade, we don't want to loose this kind of member info in the member profiles.

3) If we have the thread prefix addon installed found at vbulletin.org, are we advised to uninstall this and remove all template code before upgrading?

thanks guys, keep up the great job!

[---MAD---]

Great job, I love it :)

Three questions though,

1) What about search engine friendly URL's?

2) Is the code base in 3.7 a lot different from the one in 3.6.8? The reason I'm asking is because we use a lot of small code snippets that depend on default vbulletin code, ie "Total time spent on board", "Total # of threads started" etc. When we upgrade, we don't want to loose this kind of member info in the member profiles.

3) If we have the thread prefix addon installed found at vbulletin.org, are we advised to uninstall this and remove all template code before upgrading?

thanks guys, keep up the great job!
According to kier's post earlier on in the thread, the architect of vBulletin remains the same :).

[Bounce]

Is this coming out at midnight GMT? :D

[Onimua]

Release date? No one knows, but this might give you a rough estimate:

The blog addon was installed on July 5th 2007. The beta was available for download on August 29th, but it was already a stable version.

The first beta of version 3.6 was available for download 7 days after it has been installed on vb.com (May 31st 2006 installation, June 7th download).

Version 3.5 was installed on May 22nd 2005. The beta was available on June 9th.

Version 3.0 was installed on June 13th 2003. It was available for download on June 13th.



I wish to get it by Christmas! But please do not postpone the release just to have a Christmas present for us. We will be grateful to get it earlier. You could release the stable version on Christmas day instead. Moreover there are quite a few European customers here. What about a present for Saint Nicholas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas) day (December 6th)? :D

Someone certainly did a run through the announcement forum, eh? :p

[Zate]

i for one cannot wait.. this new release finally puts a whole bunch of things in the vanilla release that we had previously coded ourselves..it will be a welcome change to use a more supportable vbulletin .. its alot of work to maintain such a hacked codebase. Good job team, I cant wait to install this. Finally I can remove all the profile/friends/groups/blogs stuff we have on TampaForums.com, it seems you added all of it. YaY ! :thumbsup:

[GearTripper]

Unless I'm mistaken, there's still no way to mass move/edit users to/from Secondary Usergroups. What will it take to get this implemented?

[TheExpatDirector]

This looks fantastic but seems to be similar to my current verion with mods. Hope this wont cause issues when I upgrade. If it does, I'll live with it:D.

Seems like a good solution for non programmers.:cool:

[Jikdor]

As Bounce asked, when is it comeing out on this board? Midnight GMT? Would be nice to se it ASAP :D

[Bounce]

As Bounce asked, when is it comeing out on this board? Midnight GMT? Would be nice to se it ASAP :D

Guess we will know when we cannae post LOL :D and we get a vbulletin message ..

My test forum is awaiting the files lol :D

Theres no devs online so maybe there doing it elsewhere lol

[AlexanderT]

Great stuff!!!! And such a tease.....! :p

Now, for 4.0, let's get rid of the ugly table layout, and then there won't be anything left to improve :D

[جوجو عسول]

are support php4 ?? :)

[Hayk]

Really good job, but I'm so sad cause I won't sleep this night:D;)

[azn_romeo_4u]

looks awesome

[Andy Huang]

As Bounce asked, when is it comeing out on this board? Midnight GMT? Would be nice to se it ASAP :D

Monday; as to when, it is likely going to be some time during the work day for the devvies ;)

[kafi]

If you would like import script from zoints tags, please support the request here:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1452523

[jdelasko]

I guess I'm the only one here that finds it hard to get excited. Why tout an enhanced user profile system that falls so short of anything like a 'myspace' type system. Why so slowly give us tiny bits and pieces of such a system? Give me a profile/personal pages system with all the bells and whistles and I'll get excited. Give me integrated webmail for shared servers and I'll get excited.

Another feature that never gets mentioned is the fact that users cannot reply to specific users within a thread. Anyone that has ever posted a message on an mlb message board knows what I'm talking about. Sometimes it would be nice to be able to post in a thread and intend that post for a specific user and not the entire world.

Integrate great mods like 'Anymedia' and I'll get excited. Or how about capabilities of banning users by country code using a GeoIP database? IP address banning and email address banning are totally useless.

Don't get me wrong. I'm NOT complaining about the new features. However, until there are some groundbreaking new features like the ones I mentioned, most Vbulletin sites will simply be "just another bulletin board'

There will, without a doubt, be replies to this post of mine with parts of it in quotes, but I will not know about them unless I scrutinze every message in this thread. If you could post a reply intended for me, I could simply log in and use the filter 'Unread to me' to display all posts directed at me.

[Floris]

Another feature that never gets mentioned is the fact that users cannot reply to specific users within a thread. Anyone that has ever posted a message on an mlb message board knows what I'm talking about. Sometimes it would be nice to be able to post in a thread and intend that post for a specific user and not the entire world.

You can quote publicly, or click on the username and leave a personal message to that user. But yes, PM don't appear in public threads.

[Bounce]

Monday; as to when, it is likely going to be some time during the work day for the devvies ;)

Sound , cheers for that I can goto bed now and sleep :D

[DjLuv]

yo, keep it up mates, can't wait to get myself verified and download Vbulletin 3.7

[Shanj]

When is the devs workday? Am I going to wake up 8am GMT and see 3.7?
Or is it by Monday midnight GMT?
Or is it by EST or something American?

[Floris]

The majority of the devs work in the Jelsoft offices, UK business hours. But a release like this might mean they're all not going home for dinner

[MidnightPyro]

are support php4 ?? :)

According to the front page, the minimum requirement is PHP 4.3.3. Recommended is 4.4.2 or 5.1.2 or later. Assuming you meet at least the minimum requirement, there wasn't anything in the release announcement that would indicate PHP 4 isn't supported anymore ;)

[be cool]

It looks great. Those new features are very handy and cool. This was one of the reasons that I decided to purchase vb instead of ipb. My congratulations to the devs :)

[Floris]

According to the front page, the minimum requirement is PHP 4.3.3. Recommended is 4.4.2 or 5.1.2 or later. Assuming you meet at least the minimum requirement, there wasn't anything in the release announcement that would indicate PHP 4 isn't supported anymore ;)
I think 3.7 will still support PHP4. But since PHP4 is at EOL, it might disappear in the future.

[biggazillakilla]

Any chance of adding a function to allow people to close their own accounts? With social sites, people often reveal more information than they should and sometimes suffer poster's remorse after a couple of years.

[jdelasko]

You can quote publicly, or click on the username and leave a personal message to that user. But yes, PM don't appear in public threads.

I'm not talking about PMs. My point is that quotes aren't much good unless the user that is being quoted is aware of it. At present, quotes are the only method provided for users to respond directly to another users post and keep that response public. I'm just saying that it would be a better system if users Knew that someone has responded to one of their specific posts. Personal Messages have their place but using them to reply to another users specific post in not that place. I would venture to say that there are millions of vBulletin users out there that are completely unaware that some of their posts have been 'Quoted'. Adding an option to the forum search feature to do this would be nice.

[Floris]

If you quote someone you can do
their msg Or just check the checkbox from quick reply, or click the quote button from the post. Or when no quote is used switch to hybrid or threaded view.

[Greek76]

Just when I was done getting the forum exactly the way I wanted here comes a new release. Sounds real good but you could of done more for the profiles but whatever. Im just wondering about all my template edits and mods.

[wii]

I guess there will be tons of template change to the new release, I already have a modified theme, would it be a good idea to go back to default, get the 3.7 and then modify the theme again ?

[Joshyyy]

Great work guys, this will be a BIG improvement to my forums community <3

[Scott MacVicar]

We have one known bug that I think needs to be addressed before we can install it here, we performed a test upgrade on Friday which took a little over 5 minutes to do, that's with all the huge table alters.

I never got around to re-building the avatars due to the aforementioned bug, needs more investigation but I hope that the avatar rebuild wouldn't take that long. It's not needed to open the board again, but should be done as soon as you can after the upgrade.

[Onimua]

Thanks for the update. :)

[|Norman|]

Adding an option to the forum search feature to do this would be nice.

I think the best would be a popup message (when browsing the site) like on Netlog.com.

[Kevlar]

Are there going to be provisions in the install for large boards that will possibly timeout during alter database commands?

[Steve Machol]

See post #604. Our database is pretty big. :)

[Chazel]

So... will it still be installed tomorrow?

[Steve Machol]

Yes, the plan is to install it here tomorrow.

[LGNetw0rk]

I'll be on tomorrow, probably, at 5:00 AM Eastern. I hope I have a surprise waiting. :p

[alfalogic]

I like the new version.

[Benj]

its tomorrow in 10 minutes.......!!!!


only joking looking forward to it tho :D

[telc]

See post #604. Our database is pretty big. :)

What about larger forums 10x the size as vbulletin.com.

[glorify]

With all the worries that I have to redo this hack and that hack, the one thing I can say is constant--VB always makes an excellent, fully developed, near flawless product.

Thanks for the updates and keep 'em coming.

[Steve Machol]

What about larger forums 10x the size as vbulletin.com.
I don't know. A lot depends on the server itself or course. I suspect the database alterations to existing tables and fields will be less dramatic than 3.0-to-3.5 and probably even 3.5-to-3.6.

[telc]

I don't know. A lot depends on the server itself or course. I suspect the database alterations to existing tables and fields will be less dramatic than 3.0-to-3.5 and probably even 3.5-to-3.6.

Sounds good, I never had a problem any vbulletin upgrade, I have been upgrading since 2001. 3.0 to 3.5 I think was the upgrade that had the longest wait in the browser, but I was happy when it succeeded. At the time is was probably 3million posts in the db.

Are we going to be able to prune based on thread prefixes? or ignore threads with certain prefixes during a prune?

[bchertov]

Looks Great!

One question or request: Will a user be able to reference the images in the albums in their posts? So for instance, could a user upload an image once to their gallery and then include that image the paper clip tool's list of available images to insert? It would be real handy for things like logos...

And what is the fundamental difference for 4.0? Different internal architecture, reworked interface, etc?

[.::Gsmdenis::.]

Monday (November 26th) was coming , let 's waiting the highlights show...

BR.,

Denis

[SoberNClean]

My question is simple if you are testing it here now? When will it be available for release to the rest of us and another thing I was wondering since Vbulletin is so widely used ;) is there going to be a hard time when everyone starts to download it with the server or do we not need to worry about all of that.

I am young LOL at least with vbulletin

[Floris]

My question is simple if you are testing it here now? When will it be available for release to the rest of us and another thing I was wondering since Vbulletin is so widely used ;) is there going to be a hard time when everyone starts to download it with the server or do we not need to worry about all of that.

I am young LOL at least with vbulletin
Read the announcement, and check the version on this forum. Obviously it says Monday .. and right now the footer says 3.6.8. So no, we're not yet testing it here on vBcom now. Plus, you can tell since it doesn't have any of the features from the announcement.

Yes, we're testing it obviously in a development environment. Internal testing is different from running it on vBcom as a live site.

[jdelasko]

I think the best would be a popup message (when browsing the site) like on Netlog.com.

Any kind of notification that someone has replied to something you posted would be an improvement. The MLB message boards also alow you to receive an email notification of new messages to you. It doesn't look like this will be incorporated into VB so someone will have to hack it.

[Zachery]

Any kind of notification that someone has replied to something you posted would be an improvement. The MLB message boards also alow you to receive an email notification of new messages to you. It doesn't look like this will be incorporated into VB so someone will have to hack it.
What? Does instant email notification to subscribed topics not work for you? It sends you at least 1 update that there was a post in a thread you are subscribed too, if you don't go back it does not notify you again, untill you have visisted.

[jdelasko]

What? Does instant email notification to subscribed topics not work for you? It sends you at least 1 update that there was a post in a thread you are subscribed too, if you don't go back it does not notify you again, untill you have visisted.

No. It's not the same. All the thread subscription does is let you know that someone posted something to a thread. It doesn't tell you that a post was directed to you in response to something you said.

Suppose I asked a question in a mod thread and subscribed to the thread. I would then go visit the thread every time someone added a post to see if it was an answer to my question. I could spend a week getting email notifications and visiting the thread and perhaps never have a response to my question in the thread. This is where the capability of a user being able to post a reply to a specific user within a thread would be useful. I could then elect to receive a notification that a thread reply is meant specifically for me while others still have the benefit of seeing the answer to my question. Sure you can quote people, but it still doesn't mean that your reply is intended for the person being quoted. Sure you can PM, but in the case of suppport threads and many other threads, it is desirable to keep all posts public. What I'm asking for, is right next to the 'Quote' button, I'd like to see a 'Reply To' button and the ability to intend posts for specific people while keeping the posts public. Visit this mlb message board and look at some of the threads. You'll see right away how popular this feature would be.

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?folderId=1&listMode=13&nav=messages&webtag=ml-astros

[Ba$im]

I would if in new realase
support advert and think about layout of home page as a social network

[Steve Machol]

Are we going to be able to prune based on thread prefixes? or ignore threads with certain prefixes during a prune?
I just checked. Prune - yes. As for ignore, you can set the prune for 'any prefix', 'no prefix' or a specific prefix.

[cpvr]

Great job, I love it :)

Three questions though,

1) What about search engine friendly URL's?

2) Is the code base in 3.7 a lot different from the one in 3.6.8? The reason I'm asking is because we use a lot of small code snippets that depend on default vbulletin code, ie "Total time spent on board", "Total # of threads started" etc. When we upgrade, we don't want to loose this kind of member info in the member profiles.

3) If we have the thread prefix addon installed found at vbulletin.org, are we advised to uninstall this and remove all template code before upgrading?

thanks guys, keep up the great job!
1)vBulletin doesn't need search engine friendly URL's. Stop reading about vbSEO's nonsense. It's not worth it.

[Freesteyelz]

I just checked. Prune - yes. As for ignore, you can set the prune for 'any prefix', 'no prefix' or a specific prefix.


Can I safely assume you can mass move threads with a specified prefix? If so, will these functions be available in Forum Tools or in Admin CP?

[Floris]

Inline Moderation won't have a mass select option to select threads with prefix X. And at this point it seems mass move threads from the admincp does include the option to select a prefix.

[Freesteyelz]

An Admin CP option suits me fine. Thanks again. :)

[COBRAws]

I really and desperate need that someone makes an import utility for the new hacks that were added (or at least taken into consideration to create new vb functions) to the vbulletin core such as zoint tags, thread prefixes, etc.

It would be a shame loosing all my prefixed threads, which are close to 40.000 on some of my forums.

[adnan2007]

Monday the 26th is here.

Looking forward to seeing the new toys in play.


:)

[RvG]

it is monday now here 7:35 reading :)

[Chazel]

I think it's... 4:37AM where Floris and Steve are...

[Comtech]

It's 10:43 PM on sunday where I am.

[MsJacquiiC]

Haha! Who's excited?
It's midnite here but I'm anxious and excited to see the new features in action too :)

Jacquii.

[Comtech]

Haha! Who's excited?
It's midnite here but I'm anxious and excited to see the new features in action too :)

Jacquii.

I really wouldn't expect vBulletin 3.7.0 to be online for atleast another 6-8 hours from now...maybe 10 hours & that is only if they are able to fix the problem they encountered previously.

[Michael Biddle]

I would say at least 12 more ;)

[Chazel]

It's already 5:30AM in England, and my guess is that work starts at 8. I'd say three hours - maybe four.

[bryan0070]

when will i be able to download this new version of vbulletin on my site

[Floris]

when will i be able to download this new version of vbulletin on my site
Please read the announcement.

[jadmperry]

I feel like a kid the night before Christmas....please let morning get here and have a bright shiny new release under the tree!


Jason

[Chazel]

I know, I should be sleeping because I have to wake up in five and a half hours for school, but I choose to be nerdy and wait for the new release...

[RvG]

keep watching here while in office! :)

[joelcont]

mmmmmmmm waitin!! 1:33 am monday in miami

[vBskinpixel]

7:33 am monday in Stockholm

[YuSuF ErGiN]

08:43 am in Turkey
:D:D
still the same old 3.6.8 :P

[Chazel]

12:48 in Houston, TX

[Diver]

15:49 in Tokyo :)

really looking forward to see the new version in action

[Mazinger]

Good morning everybody!

Waiting for the upgrade. :D

btw, will we the board closed while it's being upgraded?

[Icy]

Waiting sux

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2360/angerhq1.png

[RvG]

i think they will create a "forum2" folders which copied already the whole database/files on it. it can be done after renaming this folder to "forum" based v3.7.0 within seconds so no downtime. :)

[Floris]

Good morning everybody!

Waiting for the upgrade. :D

btw, will we the board closed while it's being upgraded?
Sure.

[sinucello]

Hi,


http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?folderId=1&listMode=13&nav=messages&webtag=ml-astros

I just had a look at the homepage of the community-software company and I was really happy to see that they understand the importance of a seamless login if you include a community on your site:
http://www.prospero.com/platform_seamless_authenication.asp

Well, nice pictures still doesn`t mean their software is better than vB but marketing-wise it`s great and sounds really tempting and promising.

all the best,
Sacha

[Ksb2050]

Well its 02:04 AM Monday over here in Pennsylvania (USA). Who's time zone we going by XD

Waiting bites, but im here :D

[Floris]

It is still quite early in the UK, the majority of the staff isn't online yet. If anybody need to take a shower or buy a bagel, go ahead.. :)

[Chazel]

We're going by England's. It's 7:06AM there..

[joelcont]

It is still quite early in the UK, the majority of the staff isn't online yet. If anybody need to take a shower or buy a bagel, go ahead.. :)
:D im thiking on going to sleep ...its 2:11am lol ima look at it again till 8am b4 going to work:cool:

[ShadowWeaver]

damn, another fine reason to update my licence. ;)

Thanks for the great feature list presented. Lets hope the beta will be short and painless and we all get a nice christmas present. :D

[Mazinger]

Kier usually comes afternoon, may it will be installed by 3:00 PM (England time).

[Ksb2050]

It is still quite early in the UK, the majority of the staff isn't online yet. If anybody need to take a shower or buy a bagel, go ahead.. :)

And miss all this waiting??!?!?? :D

Haha I don't care that much, I just happened to be up anyways. But now I think sleep is good for the upcoming work shift ;)

[Floris]

And miss all this waiting??!?!?? :D

Haha I don't care that much, I just happened to be up anyways. But now I think sleep is good for the upcoming work shift ;)
Or maybe I am just trying you to let your guard down ;p

[eth0]

Kier usually comes afternoon, may it will be installed by 3:00 PM (England time).
which means around 10PM at my side. alright gonna wait for this

[Chazel]

It's almost 8AM in England. :)

[hcmagix]

nice infos :)

I have a question to User Picture Galleries

Can a user make different albums in his gallerie?
I mean its better to sort my own pictures.

[Bilal]

Holly cows, I am waiting since morning and now it's 12:45pm here (I am on GMT+5 zone ;)) can't wait to download vb 3.7 :D it's a major breakthrough..

Kepp up the good works guys..

[Onimua]

It is still quite early in the UK, the majority of the staff isn't online yet. If anybody need to take a shower or buy a bagel, go ahead.. :)

Can we just skip the shower? :p

I hope that Scott and the other developers traced that bug and fixed it. It'd be a shame if it gets held back a day or so... may not be much, but it's so close I can taste it! *licks screen* :p

[Floris]

nice infos :)

I have a question to User Picture Galleries

Can a user make different albums in his gallerie?
I mean its better to sort my own pictures.
I believe you can make multiple albums.

[Chazel]

... and now we wait. :p

Does work start at 8, Floris - or later?

[seangworld]

im a bit excited.

[Floris]

... and now we wait. :p

Does work start at 8, Floris - or later?
I do tech support from home, I don't work in the office, so I don't know exactly what time. I can imagine it will be UK business hours.

[ChatBum]

can't wait. !!!

[Freesteyelz]

I do tech support from home


I'd like to have that luxury, Floris. I worked at home in the past but no longer. Sigh... :) At least I have the luxury of creating my own hours. :D

Moving on to 3.7...

[pipedreams]

I feel like child on the morning of Christmas :p

I'm based in Ireland so am in the same time zone as England, but I feel it will be after lunch before we see anything...

[lifanovsky]

GMT+3 - 11.20 here now. Can''t wait to see, but I guess its still too early in UK. But I''m sure its worth waiting! 8)

[Mez]

Don't expect it too soon - I as one of the devs have to keep office hours, and I've just woken up, read the insane amount of replies @ Home... It'll be at least a couple of hours till we're all in the office, then test runs have to be done, and everything has to be finalised. Plus there's that big bug. Be patient guys, Good things come to those who wait.

[seangworld]

what big bug?

[cpvr]

It's only 7:23 am in the UK. I'm sure they'll upgrade it soon.

[Chazel]

It's 8:23 in the UK. :)

[seangworld]

it's still 10:25pm here in hawaii. :)

[Chazel]

In Houston it's 2AM, all I know is that the UK is 6 hours ahead from CST.

[TomJames]

Can't wait to see this when I get home..

[Mez]

what big bug?

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1452675#post1452675


It's 8:23 in the UK. :)

correct - well 08:32 now

[Floris]

I'd like to have that luxury, Floris. I worked at home in the past but no longer. Sigh... :) At least I have the luxury of creating my own hours. :D

Moving on to 3.7...
Personal reasons make it a necessity, I'd love to move to the UK and work business hours in the office.

[Samy]

Hi
GMT+1 - 9:30AM in Spain :D

[jakWEB]

Ok, after all posted there time... :rolleyes:

06:42pm here in Brisbane Australia!

[Mansour_Q]

I Got Rest Day To Day Just For Test The New Things .. :)

Almost 12pm In Qatar ..

[hcmagix]

I believe you can make multiple albums.

thx 4 info

[ChatBum]

are they going to wait till the last min of the day?

[Chazel]

Martin said this earlier:


Don't expect it too soon - I as one of the devs have to keep office hours, and I've just woken up, read the insane amount of replies @ Home... It'll be at least a couple of hours till we're all in the office, then test runs have to be done, and everything has to be finalised. Plus there's that big bug. Be patient guys, Good things come to those who wait.

[Nikke]

The day has just started, and even if, there will always be a new day :)

[Njm-Alryiadh]

in saudia arabia 12:4 pm

still waiting :)

[bryan0070]

I am still waiting also, and i have question are we still going to be able to download old versions of vbulletin after the upgrade

[adnan2007]

I'm starting to get excited.

I wonder how long they're gonna wait until they release the beta.

Here's my suggestion 15 mins sounds appropriate.


:)

[jadmperry]

4:14 am EST...I guess I will give in and sleep. I didn't get bagel or shower :mad: ....but I have something to look forward to tomorrow!!!:D

[Shanj]

Sending the devs lots of love and best wishes. Don't worry if it's a bit late because of the bug. Better to get it right than get it rushed. So take it steady and we'll all give you three cheers when it appears.

Me UK finish my main work today at 2pm/ 14.00 and would be great to see it then. But also nice in the quiet hours of evening when I can play ... and I've only one apointment tomorrow!

So go steady guys switch off as much of the pressure as you can, so you can enjoy this too.

[Fusion]

Man, you're a bunch of bored critters. Get a life! (or job, as the case may be for those in the EU zone of the globe) :p

[Scott MacVicar]

The time will be UK time during the work day, so say any time in the next 8 hours or so. We're not going to do anything until we're comfortable with it, so posting the time in your current area isn't going to make anything appear quicker.

[Ian99]

Why do we get so much dross on these threads?

Sorry, but I do not need to know the current time in 10,000 locations.

Strewth....

It makes this entire thread almost worthless....

:(

[bryan0070]

I have question are we still going to be able to download old versions of vbulletin after this upgrade

[jadmperry]

Scott,

That's what you want us to think...:p

You guys should be happy everyone is excited...it's like fans camping out three days in line to get first tix to Star Wars...hopefully this will be better than iPhone launch!!!

I can't wait...4:24 am (sorry scott, couldn't resist). Okay, I give up for now, this time, I really am off for some shut eye.

Cheers,

Jason

[Freesteyelz]

Personal reasons make it a necessity, I'd love to move to the UK and work business hours in the office.


I respect that. :)

Anyway, I'm off to bed. Hopefully when I come home tomorrow 3.7 will be installed. :)

[seangworld]

Why do we get so much dross on these threads?

Sorry, but I do not need to know the current time in 10,000 locations.

Strewth....

It makes this entire thread almost worthless....

:(


lmfao!

[adnan2007]

The time will be UK time during the work day, so say any time in the next 8 hours or so. We're not going to do anything until we're comfortable with it, so posting the time in your current area isn't going to make anything appear quicker.

Agreed,

But it'll sure kill some time away :D

[hissatsu]

By far the most amazing feature based cosmetic update to vbulletin EVER. I can't wait to get this installed. Congrats to the vbulletin team for getting done. Now i cant wait for the upgrade and a new core vB 4.0

[ChatBum]

im off, hopefully when i wake up in 5 hours it might be out.

[Fusion]

I have question are we still going to be able to download old versions of vbulletin after this upgrade
Yes, the 3.6.x and 3.5 branches will still be available.

[Floris]

I am still waiting also, and i have question are we still going to be able to download old versions of vbulletin after the upgrade
The announcement says that 3.7 will be here, used, on vBcom. But that does not mean it will be downloadable. So .. 3.6.8pl2 will still be the latest version. And once 3.7 is out, it will be the same in the download area for your license as it is right now with the download list. 3.6 will also be in that list.

[Mr-Mo3ath]

when well be 3.7
add in vBulletin.com
im waiting :)

[Ranger375]

I look forward to rereading the same post (over and over again) after you guys make 3.7 live: "how can I download 3.7?" :D

[Nikke]

Yeah, everyone should remember that when it's out today, you only see how it works here. You can't download it and install it.

[seangworld]

lol

i really really want the hack that makes my vb/vbadvanced look like myspace or a variation thereof....

[loaf]

The time will be UK time during the work day, so say any time in the next 8 hours or so. We're not going to do anything until we're comfortable with it, so posting the time in your current area isn't going to make anything appear quicker.


I look forward to rereading the same post (over and over again) after you guys make 3.7 live: "how can I download 3.7?" :D

I don't look forward to that... I came to the thread to find out if my two PhotoPlog licenses are going to be useless with the photo album in the vB core. If any more info on the "other features" would come out. And whether any of it looked like it was going to keep vB.com from crashing IE on the POS Windows emulator on my work machine. Instead, there were pages and pages of the same fanboy fluff to wade through. I'm as happy as the next guy that an update is coming out but I'd rather have facts over fanatics.

[Kier]

I've posted answers to a few queries and some clarifications at the end of the announcement thread:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1450781#post1450781

[Mazinger]

Thanks Kier, but the url links to the post before the one you might intended. ;)

[loaf]

I've posted answers to a few queries and some clarifications at the end of the announcement thread:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1450781#post1450781

Thanks, Kier!

[DjLuv]

WHEN Can we actually download 3.7 from member's area ? WHEN

IS IT TODAY, or sometime later

[Shanj]

Pooh to old grumpysocks incapable of sharing the fun!
Comparing timezones is fun.
Waiting together is fun!

As for the clot who says get a job, young pipsqueak I'll have you know I work a 12 hour day standard. A quick peep in here is my way of resting my brain from intensive work handling 5 conversations at once involving sensitive people who need a lot of care and diplomacy at every second. Try working a long hour day seven day week sometime and see how you like it.

And now back to the sacred vigil. Light a candle anyone?
Reminds me of waiting all night on the street to buy Dylan tickets in the 70s.

[Floris]

WHEN Can we actually download 3.7 from member's area ? WHEN

IS IT TODAY, or sometime later
Obviously not today. Please read the announcement.

[Shanj]

DJLuv it
ll be today all going well.
If there's an unexpected problem it might be LATE today like 18.00 or later GMT
Any human plan is vulnerable to crashing when it contacts reality. But the plan is to see 3.7 in action here later today.
Then a release shortly after when it proves comfortable to use.

[DjLuv]

Thanx, i think it will all go well today, and i expect to start using it on my forum before this weekend.

[sinucello]

ah sorry, I should relax before I post.

[Helmut71]

according to the annoucment - the new VB 3.7 should be available in a few days...
I am really looking forward testing it here and using it on my site.

[MrNase]

Hey guys, it's Monday. :)

[MommiesUnitedAdm]

7:10 am in MA...still waiting :)

[pipin]

I've posted answers to a few queries and some clarifications at the end of the announcement thread:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1450781#post1450781

thx.

One further question about Social Group Public Messaging

I don't know if I understand the made statement, will there be an option to do private message to all members of the group, which will sent to the users pm inbox?

[ReQueM]

GMT+2 TR
Mon 26th, 14:12pm :D

[ragtek]

thx.

One further question about Social Group Public Messaging

I don't know if I understand the made statement, will there be an option to do private message to all members of the group, which will sent to the users pm inbox?

no
there is a own "message area" for them
like a own forum for them

[Darat]

Hey guys, it's Monday. :)


And Monday in each time zone (unless of course the timezone is going through an adjustment for something like "daylight saving") consists of 24 hours....

[Barakat]

still waitting >>>

[Ranger375]

Do you people think that you are going to make it arrive any faster? You're just acting like a bunch of kids, not to mention annoying the heck out of everyone else. :rolleyes:

[An-Dr]

We are waiting :D

[Sychev_S]

I still think developers should re-think profile ratings. Reputation can be used to rate forum posters and profile ratigns (out of 5 or 10) can be used to rate profiles. Who's with me?

[DjLuv]

I still think developers should re-think profile ratings. Reputation can be used to rate forum posters and profile ratigns (out of 5 or 10) can be used to rate profiles. Who's with me?

i am with you, but i don't want any DELAY in this matter, if they are not able to put profile rating this time, release in next update :p

[bryan0070]

is the vbulletin admin demo board going to be updated to this new version 3.7 soon

[jw0ollard]

I've posted answers to a few queries and some clarifications at the end of the announcement thread:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1450781#post1450781

Kier!! You've made my day! I was just hoping and praying that this would be done in 3.7 or 4.0.

And I hope I wasn't one of the ones who made you feel the need to clarify what exactly you were using YUI for. I was never under the impression that you had actually replaced all of the vB JS with YUI, but I guess I did ask to what extent you'd replaced things. (And if I remember correctly, the answer was some AJAX things had been replaced and nothing else).

Now I have one more thing to look forward to playing around with! (The YUI Compressor + the vB JS.) :D;)

----

Oh, and take that, whoever was being really rude to me for asking about the YUI compressor. (Not any of the staff... :p)

Can't wait!

P.S. - Scott, I don't think people are posting their local time to say "I'm waiting, darn it".. I see this all the time on fan sites for TV shows and what not. It's just your average ---> Caffeine + General excitement = A countdown... haha. If this was against the forum rules, then OK, but I think you'd want people to be excited for the public unveiling? :p

[Shanj]

Do you people think that you are going to make it arrive any faster? You're just acting like a bunch of kids, not to mention annoying the heck out of everyone else. :rolleyes:

Time is very subjective Ranger so yes if we have fun while waiting it'll feel a lot quicker.

What on EARTH is wrong with acting like kids?
I LIKE kids (mostly). I feel sorry for anyone who CAN'T act like a kid. If you can't be childlike you can't innovate, create, or HAVE FUN.

your argumentum ad hominem not justified. The silliness might be annoying some people but you have no evidence it's annoying all or even a majority. All you have is your own personal annoyance. Which DOES matter, not petty. But still you, not a crowd. Sorry your grownup side is so crushing that a little fun irritates you such a lot.
However a really positive point here is your annoyance is a feeling and THAT arises from the childish side of you. So thank goodness your childish side IS alive and well.

:)

[EnIgMa79]

WHEN Can we actually download 3.7 from member's area ? WHEN

IS IT TODAY, or sometime later
They'll probably release once they feel it stable enough :D
Have everyone test it first and see how it fares on a live board as big as this.

[Ranger375]

Time is very subjective Ranger so yes if we have fun while waiting it'll feel a lot quicker.

What on EARTH is wrong with acting like kids?
I LIKE kids (mostly). I feel sorry for anyone who CAN'T act like a kid. If you can't be childlike you can't innovate, create, or HAVE FUN.

your argumentum ad hominem not justified. The silliness might be annoying some people but you have no evidence it's annoying all or even a majority. All you have is your own personal annoyance. Which DOES matter, not petty. But still you, not a crowd. Sorry your grownup side is so crushing that a little fun irritates you such a lot.
However a really positive point here is your annoyance is a feeling and THAT arises from the childish side of you. So thank goodness your childish side IS alive and well.

:)

You realize that all the "its 5:00 here...we're stilllll waiiiiiitinggggg" posts (and yes, this post) just defeats the purpose of this thread, ultimately leading to:

"when does 3.7 come out"
"when will it be released"
"when can we download 3.7"
"will 3.7 have a spaceship plugin that can take me back to my home planet?"

Mainly due to the fact that noone wants to cycle through 15 pages when they can just ask the same question over and over.

my dos centavos

[optrex]

However a really positive point here is your annoyance is a feeling and THAT arises from the childish side of you. So thank goodness your childish side IS alive and well.

:)

I love this thread, its one of the funniest ones on the forum. Anyway, I'd like to give my thanks to everyone behind the scenes at vB who is working hard to get this version out today on vb.com

I'm looking forward to seeing the results over the next 5 or 6 hours and hope that non of you have to put in the dreaded overtime to get it out.

[MommiesUnitedAdm]

Sorry our childish excitment is getting to you Ranger375 I hope your inner child escapes soon so you too can feel the anticipation and excitment of waiting for something this kewl.


BTW 8am in MA and yeah, I'm still waiting :P

[Mazinger]

I still think developers should re-think profile ratings. Reputation can be used to rate forum posters and profile ratigns (out of 5 or 10) can be used to rate profiles. Who's with me?
Profile rating seems to be a terrible idea for me.

Think about it, how many times you can rate a profile? One? What If you want to change your vote? What if they allowed changing votes? Wouldn't that be abit of mess?

Reputation is the best feature I've seen yet that do the job.

[dkon26]

If this thread annoys you, dont keep reading it.. Go somewhere else! Your pretty much only annoying yourself!

[Ranger375]

lol alright kids, drive on with your bad selves:rolleyes:.

[Shanj]

Mainly due to the fact that noone wants to cycle through 15 pages when they can just ask the same question over and over.


Yes I understand that. I also find it mildly annoying when questions are repeatedly asking when things are due when Kier's first post tells us. But then compassion counsels peiople are either excited or tired (so many are these days of long hours culture <sigh>)

It's not hard to skim through in a few seconds.
You'll see soon enough when the hard data comes through.

[Shanj]

lol alright kids, drive on with your bad selves:rolleyes:.

Hey Ranger's cool! Kisses big guy!

[RvG]

I will wait here till 11:59 PM :)

now it's 4:10 PM ;)

[dkon26]

Would you all prefer bugs or to wait for them to finish up? Id rather see it worked out even if it meant going live tomorrow instead of today. Either way, good job VB. Now you can sink the competition!

[jluerken]

Hi, I have a question to the Navbar Notices Feature.

Are those rules combined with an AND or with an OR?

Example from your Screenshot.

First Mark "User belongs to group" Registered User
Second Mark "User does not belong to group" Administrator

Both ticket and combined with an AND means:
Show this to all users in group Registered users but not when they're in the Administrator group.

Both ticket and combined with an OR mean:
Show this to all users if they belong to the group Registered users or Admins only.

So how is this exactly working?

[Razasharp]

Floris don't you sleep? I thought I was bad - but it looks like you been up all night!!