vBulletin Blog 1.0.1 Release Discussion

[Freddie Bingham]

This thread is for discussing the release of vBulletin Blog 1.0.1.

Please use this thread to talk about things you like or installation experiences etc., but please do not use this thread to post troubleshooting queries or bug reports. These threads tend to grow very large and bug reports etc. tend to become lost and will not get attention from the support or development teams.

Click here if you would like to report a bug in vBulletin Blog 1.0.1! (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/project.php?do=issuelist&projectid=3&issuetypeid=bug)

[Mazinger]

Thanks for the fast update! The blog is getting more and more stable now. :)

[ThorstenA]

Thanks for releasing :D

[Reeve of Shinra]

Great to see the quick turn around on the fixes.

[Stilgar]

Thanks for the continued work on this.

[---MAD---]

Good stuff - will upgrade tomorrow :).

[thanhdat]

ok thanks, i'll upgrade as soon as possible :D

[Electronic Punk]

class_paid_subscription.php does not seem to be in the package

[Stilgar]

class_paid_subscription.php does not seem to be in the package

You're right.. it's not there. Hmm. :D

[Fusion]

I really thought staff here were above silently deleting posts by long-standing members and paying customers, however short and to the point it is. It seems I was wrong. So let me repeat my original post

Yawn...

and explain why I made such an outrageous statement to warrant its deletion.

Bug-fixes are all good and well, but seriously, Jelsoft, you have drifted off course.
As I stated in another thread, you are way overdue with attention to your socalled "flagship product". It's been over 15 months since v3.6 was unveiled and since then we've patiently awaited addons, v4.0, now v3.7; I guess you aim to buy yourselves another year's worth of development with that - and watched a buyout with fancy words promising new resources.

Fact of the matter is, those were just fancy words. No more resources is forthcoming, and your staff, while excellent, has shown it cannot develop addons while granting the attention your "flagship product" deserves at the same time.
So yes, I yawn at this release, and I think many who have purchased one or both addons would agree, because they too are users of the "flagship product".

For deleting my post, shame on you, and please, get your act together.

[Makc666]

The only thing I hate in vBulletin blog is that we can QUOTE/Post Comments to other comments.
In other words there is no any Threaded/Hybrid Mode in Blog like in vBulletin Forum.

[Wayne Luke]

Fact of the matter is, those were just fancy words. No more resources is forthcoming, and your staff, while excellent, has shown it cannot develop addons while granting the attention your "flagship product" deserves at the same time.
So yes, I yawn at this release, and I think many who have purchased one or both addons would agree, because they too are users of the "flagship product".
We have three developers working on vBulletin 3.7 at this time. I see 40 new accepted features, of which 8 are either completed or in progress currently. There are also numerous bug fixes that have been worked on since 3.6.8 was released.

For deleting my post, shame on you, and please, get your act together.
Your one word post violated the forum rules.

Please refrain from posting meaningless threads, one word (or short) non-sense posts, or the such.

[Wayne Luke]

class_paid_subscription.php does not seem to be in the package

This is a vBulletin file, not a vB Blog file.

[Stilgar]

Hello Wayne,

class_paid_subscriptions.php may be a vbulletin file, but it is listed as a changed file in vBulletin Blog 1.0.1


Files Changed from vBulletin Blog 1.0.0 to 1.0.1

/
blog.php
blog_attachment.php
blog_post.php
blog_subscription.php
blog_usercp.php
admincp/
blog_admin.php
blog_attachment.php
includes/
blog_functions.php
blog_functions_shared.php
blog_init.php
blog_plugin_usermerge.php - new!
class_blog_entry.php
class_blog_response.php
class_dm_blog.php
class_dm_blog_category.php
class_dm_blog_user.php
class_paid_subscription.php
xml/
bitfield_vbblog.xml
hooks_vbblog.xml
product-vbblog.xml

[PJAmerica]

I just want to say thank you for the update and commitment being made by all staff, devs and contributors of this fine community. I look forward to 3.7 vb and the future of vBlog.

[Onimua]

Thanks for this update. :) Glad to see this is a little more bug free. :D

[Fusion]

We have three developers working on vBulletin 3.7 at this time. I see 40 new accepted features, of which 8 are either completed or in progress currently. There are also numerous bug fixes that have been worked on since 3.6.8 was released.
Exactly. While I may seem ungrateful, this sort of confirms my point. 3.7 is still weeks if not months away, bringing it close to 2 years in the making. Historically, 4.0 is at least a year away after 3.7 is finally released, and that not only because the technical advances and such is lacking or that there's nothing new to add, it is also because your attention is elsewhere.

On the upside, my little tantrum got a progress report, of sorts, out of you, and we thank you for that.

[ehsan]

Thanks for the release.
does it support having multiple authors for one weblog? it'll be great.

[Colin F]

This release contains mainly bugfixes, no new features.

[Kohhal]

Thanks for update, very quick. Awaiting new features (and especially vb3.7 :))

[Floris]

The upgrades on my sites went quick and smooth.

[lifanovsky]

In other words there is no any Threaded/Hybrid Mode in Blog like in vBulletin Forum.I would even say, that threaded comments should be the main way of comment system in blogs. While in forum mode most of users use quotes, in blogs threads could be much more useful since they could make a much more meaningful discussion.

[Lizard King]

Exactly. While I may seem ungrateful, this sort of confirms my point. 3.7 is still weeks if not months away, bringing it close to 2 years in the making. Historically, 4.0 is at least a year away after 3.7 is finally released, and that not only because the technical advances and such is lacking or that there's nothing new to add, it is also because your attention is elsewhere.

On the upside, my little tantrum got a progress report, of sorts, out of you, and we thank you for that.
Do you know the time difference between vB 2.x and vB 3.x ?

As far as i see Jelsoft is upgrading their products on a very efficient way. Yes new developers can joişn the team to speed up the process and they already advertised for this and from my point of view all your comments are meaningless.

Thanks for the quick update for vB Blog will upgrade now.

[Fusion]

Do you know the time difference between vB 2.x and vB 3.x ?
Yes, I am well aware of the time difference, however, the staff has increased substantially since then, so a certain increase in effectiveness is to be expected.

[nymyth]

cheers......lets test it out

[Electronic Punk]

This is a vBulletin file, not a vB Blog file.

No, thank you for your help!

[Ranger375]

looks great thanks

[lifanovsky]

Yes, I am well aware of the time difference, however, the staff has increased substantially since then, so a certain increase in effectiveness is to be expected.
All is fine, but I just can''t quite figure out what is the purpose of releasing the 3.7 ASAP? I mean, what is it that makes you unhappy with the current version? Are there some features that your users do miss or what? Honestly, my guys are not able to use everything that vB already has to offer. I wouldn''t mind for the social network thing (whatever they mean by that) but except for this and with blogs up and running - personally I just don''t know what to ask for right now...

[Wayne Luke]

He is awaiting Social Networking which was moved to 3.7 as a free feature instead of being part of the blog addon.

[lifanovsky]

He is awaiting Social Networking which was moved to 3.7 as a free feature instead of being part of the blog addon.I see. Well, they say "if you want it well-done you can''t get it fast". Or something like that. I hope developers will take their time and will release the product when its totally done to minimize the technical updates. And, using this occasion - thank you very much for you work!

[Fusion]

He is awaiting Social Networking which was moved to 3.7 as a free feature instead of being part of the blog addon.
Actually, there are several things I'm waiting for in addition to the SN component, just take a gander at the various v4 request threads.

Yes, the 3.6 branch is great, no one is denying that, but there is room for great advancements, some of which has been requested for years. So yes, some of us old-timers are growing a tad impatient.

[Freddie Bingham]

There has only been one person working on the 1.0.1 release of the blog, me, so you should not assume that development of everything else stopped.

[Fusion]

Thanks for that, Freddie. I'm a little more at ease.

[Grover]

Thanks for this quick bugfix release.

[Ascor]

There has only been one person working on the 1.0.1 release of the blog, me, so you should not assume that development of everything else stopped.

Glad to read that, thank you.

[ang2el]

There has only been one person working on the 1.0.1 release of the blog, me, so you should not assume that development of everything else stopped.

Congrat Freddie.

[sensimilla]

Great job, the update went smooth, thanks.

[blur]

The only problem was the quick reply box. It was 350px witdh.
(Probably some template problem.)

Thank you and now we are waiting for the another new version which will contains some new features...

[Lizard King]

The only problem was the quick reply box. It was 350px witdh.
(Probably some template problem.)

Thank you and now we are waiting for the another new version which will contains some new features...
There is a new setting at style variables for that

[ThreeD]

Great job Freddie :) I love this blog feature! Upgrade went smooth.

/* rant on */

Hey Fusion, I don't want to bash your comments or put this all on you based on your comments made in this thread, but cut the jelsoft staff some slack. PLEASE stop complaining and let Jelsoft do their job at their own pace. If you're so unhappy with the progress, make your own add-ons. Based on your post count you've been around long enough to know how you go about doing that. Sure, 2 years is a long time, and great additional features are always a bonus, just like this blog. You'll get your SN, your 3.7 or 4.0 soon enough, patience is a virtue :)

The best example of what happens when you rush software onto the market is Microsoft. Look at all the security holes they have in their Windows/Office series when they initially release it. It's a mess! Do you want the same problems with vbulletin or do you want a solid, fully functional and SAFE product?

/*rant off */

[Ohiosweetheart]

I see. Well, they say "if you want it well-done you can''t get it fast". Or something like that. I hope developers will take their time and will release the product when its totally done to minimize the technical updates. And, using this occasion - thank you very much for you work!I quite agree with you. While I may be salivating and over-anxious for the Social Networking aspect of 3.7 (and I am doing both please believe me!) I would rather them take a while and make sure it's right, and contains what we have been asking for, than to release it lacking and have to work on upgrades because people gripe that it doesn't have what we wanted - and we all know that happens.

You're doing a great job dev team - take your time, we'll be here :D

Kudos to you too, ThreeD, I agree.

[Fusion]

Actually, I don't mind being the bad guy here, in fact I won't even get into your Microsoft analogy, it's like beating a dead horse. I'll just say this;
We can have it both ways, with more frequent updates.
They don't have to make quantum leaps each time they do a major upgrade.

[ThreeD]

Actually, I don't mind being the bad guy here, in fact I won't even get into your Microsoft analogy, it's like beating a dead horse. I'll just say this;
We can have it both ways, with more frequent updates.
They don't have to make quantum leaps each time they do a major upgrade.

Well the Microsoft analogy may have been a little off, but you get my point. You don't think the blog feature is a major forum upgrade? It adds a whole new dimension to the community.

[Fusion]

Well the Microsoft analogy may have been a little off, but you get my point. You don't think the blog feature is a major forum upgrade? It adds a whole new dimension to the community.
The Blog is an addon, just like the Project Tools.
What I'm on about is their self-titled "flagship product" ie. vBulletin, and upgrades to it. It's why we're all here in the first place.

I've nothing against either addon or users of them, I just feel they've left the chart slightly with regards to their main focus.

[ThreeD]

Priorities may have shifted for a while, but after the Blog addon release their focus has probably been returned towards their "flagship", the vbulletin forum software. I don't know, but that's what my common sense tells me :)

According to Freddie himself he has been the only staff member working on the current vbulletin blog update. I am pretty sure the rest of the Jelsoft team isn't just sitting around playing minesweeper.

3.6.8 was just released in july/august wasn't it? No major updates but a lot of bug fixes and tweaks in that release. I'd much rather want an update without major additions but a lot of security and bug fixes, than vice versa. After all, security and stability is our prime concern right? Even if the major updates are far in between, go easy on the crew, I'm sure they've got it all well mapped out :)

[Fusion]

Oh, to be young and blue-eyed again..

[Ohiosweetheart]

haha just think of all the people who moan and groan everytime there is a vB version upgrade. We don't have to read that for a little while.

Works for me...

[Fusion]

Heh... I skip those.

[hornstar6969]

Okay looks good that it is becoming more stable, now I just await for more features, then will consider switching to this. thanks.

[ThreeD]

Oh, to be young and blue-eyed again..

Lets put it this way: Less useless complaining from members = less explaining & "defending of their product timeline" needed by the jelsoft staff = the jelsoft staff gets more work done.

[Fusion]

That's why there's developers and then there's support (forum) staff. It is possible to handle both. Please stop living in denial.

[ThreeD]

That's why there's developers and then there's support (forum) staff. It is possible to handle both. Please stop living in denial.

Denial? If you haven't noticed yet, a lot of the jelsoft developers hang out here and answer questions the same way the support staff does. The last thing they need is people complaining about the time schedule and lack of updates. That is the bottom line really.

If you're not happy with the progress or current product you have three options.

Stop the complaining and look elsewhere.
Modify the board yourself.
Wait patiently for new updates.I rest my case your honor!

[Fusion]

Yes, they do hang out here, but they don't need to, as they have support staff to handle our gripes. That is the bottom line, my friend.

Now, since they do hang out here, I'm just using my right as a paying customer to give feedback, good and bad, on whatever's happening with the products I'm invested in. If I were out of line doing so, I'm sure the staff would tell me so.

The fact that they don't should teach you something.

[---MAD---]

Yes, they do hang out here, but they don't need to, as they have support staff to handle our gripes. That is the bottom line, my friend.

Now, since they do hang out here, I'm just using my right as a paying customer to give feedback, good and bad, on whatever's happening with the products I'm invested in. If I were out of line doing so, I'm sure the staff would tell me so.

The fact that they don't should teach you something.
I understand where you are coming from however doing this here wont help. Make a thread in the feedback forum is best so the thread doesnt get locked when a new version comes out :).

[Fusion]

I understand where you are coming from however doing this here wont help. Make a thread in the feedback forum is best so the thread doesnt get locked when a new version comes out :).
Heh, have you looked in the Feedback forum? It's riddled with these already.
Besides, when this one's locked and if there's cause, I'll continue in the next one, rest assured. :)

[Lizard King]

The fact that you are a customer but beside you Jelsoft have tons of more customer like us and trust me your posts disturb me and other customers. You shall also think about that. Dont forget you are not center of the world.

[Fusion]

Good. Just maybe I disturb you enough for you to take an interest as well, and not just sit idly by, like some seems to think I should do.

And no, I'm not the center of the world. Everyone knows that's Hell. ;)

[ThreeD]

Good. Just maybe I disturb you enough for you to take an interest as well

To be honest it's rather annoying and you clutter various threads with useless complaining. Your cry for "attention" doesn't seem to bother the Jelsoft staff now does it?

[Fusion]

My aim isn't to bother them, as such. Change is often slow, but it takes persistence.

[Gladius]

Actually, the posts that complain about Fusion's posts endlessly are far more annoying than his own. He just makes a point (or three), but a bunch of other people posting here seem to think that they need to respond to his every post. How about ignoring him instead if what he writes doesn't interest you? It'd save all of us the time reading through dozens of pointless back-and-forths.

[hornstar6969]

Actually, the posts that complain about Fusion's posts endlessly are far more annoying than his own. He just makes a point (or three), but a bunch of other people posting here seem to think that they need to respond to his every post. How about ignoring him instead if what he writes doesn't interest you? It'd save all of us the time reading through dozens of pointless back-and-forths.

I second that :o I'm surprised others have not. anyway, lets get back on topic. hopefully vb will delete all the off topic talk soon.

[ThreeD]

Actually, the posts that complain about Fusion's posts endlessly are far more annoying than his own. He just makes a point (or three), but a bunch of other people posting here seem to think that they need to respond to his every post. How about ignoring him instead if what he writes doesn't interest you? It'd save all of us the time reading through dozens of pointless back-and-forths.

I probably shouldn't waste my time on your reply (because it's a pointless back and forth right?), but to make it short and simple: Fusion's "points" and posts aren't really of any value to this thread in the first place! If he wants to complain about the progress of the vbulletin forum, he should start his OWN thread in the appropriate part of the forum and KEEP IT there.

Bashing other threads with the same "stuff" won't do anyone any good.

[Fusion]

Excuse me, but I wouldn't call valid feedback on this particular release 'junk'... But I forget my place, there's people who's been around here a little over a year who knows better than me.

[Wayne Luke]

Please get back on topic in discussing this release and not the merits of it, any merits you want to discuss about our development policies, or arguing amongst yourselves.

[ThreeD]

Sorry Fusion, I didn't really mean to call your general feedback "junk" in that sense. I was talking about your "complaints" regarding the lack of updates to the vbulletin forum software.

And this is definitely not a matter of knowing anything "better" than you Fusion. It's more a matter of letting Jelsoft do their job at their own pace.

Anyways, I'm done with this discussion.

[Darklen12]

the link to download VBulletin 3.6.8

[Fusion]

It can be found here (http://www.vbulletin.com/members/). Hurry, before they close the loophole!

[Dream]

Updated and all seems to be fine, thanks.

[falconking]

How do I do this?

In the usergroup manager, and when I assigned them to the forums, I disabled super moderators from viewing IPs, but this seems not to work in the BLOG. :(

Any ideas please ASAP.

[Dilly]

Yeah, wrong place to post it - and you cross posted anyway.

[Sternenlaura]

Hi Everyone!

I've installed it and it works well. :)

But I miss the possibility of making selected entries privately or only viewable for the buddies.

At the moment it's only possible to change the settings for the whole blog.

Would be great if you enable that.

Greetings from Germany!

Laura

[Kohhal]

Ditto, waiting on this before announcing the forums to my members

[BBF]

it's true that have 1.2 beta?

[Wayne Luke]

it's true that have 1.2 beta?
No.

[scootman]

Great Install It,,

[AndreaFahy]

So, do I just put the files and folders straight into my "forum" folder? Won't that override my images, and other folders that vbulletin needs?

[Sychev_S]

It will only add files.

[AndreaFahy]

thanks, It's installed now - so easy!

[KoC]

So, do I just put the files and folders straight into my "forum" folder? Won't that override my images, and other folders that vbulletin needs?


Read the readme file carefully inside the package.

[Nokturno]

thanks, It's installed now - so easy!