vBulletin Blog on vB.com Discussion Thread

[Onimua]

Kier said:



What does he mean with 'social networking part' ? Does this mean there will be some kind of myspace clone for members that replaces the profile.php page and has full myspace functionality like profiles pics, video's etc?
Yes, there will be a profile page revamp. :)

[ricerice]

Yes, there will be a profile page revamp. :)

thanks for all your updates...i appreciate it.

rice

[criscokid]

What does he mean with 'social networking part' ? Does this mean there will be some kind of myspace clone for members that replaces the profile.php page and has full myspace functionality like profiles pics, video's etc?
My site's user profile page is heavily modified... I'm planning on upgrading from vB3.5 to vB3.6 and would find it very useful of some idea of what the 'new profile' page is going to look like when the 'social networking part' is activated. An idea of time frame would be VERY useful... doesn't need to be anything specific, something along the lines of saying whether it'll be released in August, September...

I'm sure many other people who are contemplating upgrading will find a timeframe very useful.

I'd also love the ability for users to have a profile URL along the lines of domainname.com/username if the forums are installed at domainname.com/forum - domainname.com/username looks a lot more attractive and memorable than domainname.com/forums/username

[ricerice]

My site's user profile page is heavily modified... I'm planning on upgrading from vB3.5 to vB3.6 and would find it very useful of some idea of what the 'new profile' page is going to look like when the 'social networking part' is activated. An idea of time frame would be VERY useful... doesn't need to be anything specific, something along the lines of saying whether it'll be released in August, September...

I'm sure many other people who are contemplating upgrading will find a timeframe very useful.

I'd also love the ability for users to have a profile URL along the lines of domainname.com/username if the forums are installed at domainname.com/forum - domainname.com/username looks a lot more attractive and memorable than domainname.com/forums/username

i echo this 500%...
very much the boat i am in.
this is on my mind at least every other day.

[ericgtr]

I think the blog needs another privacy setting:

Currently you can allow buddies to view the blog, or everyone.

But what If a user wants to allow every registered user to view the blog, but not unregistered guests?

There should be a 4th option:

All registered Members may...
View my blog Leave comments on my blog entries

Best regards

StarBuG
Just a guess but it's probably a usergroup setting in the admincp.

[Marcos2]

My site's user profile page is heavily modified... I'm planning on upgrading from vB3.5 to vB3.6 and would find it very useful of some idea of what the 'new profile' page is going to look like when the 'social networking part' is activated. An idea of time frame would be VERY useful... doesn't need to be anything specific, something along the lines of saying whether it'll be released in August, September...

I'm sure many other people who are contemplating upgrading will find a timeframe very useful.

I'd also love the ability for users to have a profile URL along the lines of domainname.com/username if the forums are installed at domainname.com/forum - domainname.com/username looks a lot more attractive and memorable than domainname.com/forums/username


Agreed. One thing I would like to know is if the social-networking part is going to be an "add-on" in the traditional sense such as the blog or is it going to directly affect/alter the profile template (which in turn would mean another upgrade).

Marcos

[stryka]

I think we can start to get impatient now... the original mention of the BLOG indicated that because of demand they were making some changes... and in MAY (23rd) they mentioned all the kewl social networking features in their announcement... 3.6.8 has been released which probably indicates that the BLOG component is near final... but we still can't see ANY screenshots? The features are listed below? Is the social networking component more complex than the blog itself? I am just struggling to understand the delay on this.... and i hope i can just have the social networking component in the profile and not the BLOG feature... which i see as two seperate products...

Anyone have any input on this?



Additionally, vBulletin Blog adds social networking functionality to your vBulletin installation, which will allow your users to quickly and safely make connections and form relationships. Member profile pages are extended to include an enhanced buddy system, visitor tracking, blog integration and a comment system, all housed within a new and improved profile page template together with improved delivery of existing profile information.

[Onimua]

I think we can start to get impatient now... the original mention of the BLOG indicated that because of demand they were making some changes... and in MAY (23rd) they mentioned all the kewl social networking features in their announcement... 3.6.8 has been released which probably indicates that the BLOG component is near final... but we still can't see ANY screenshots? The features are listed below? Is the social networking component more complex than the blog itself? I am just struggling to understand the delay on this.... and i hope i can just have the social networking component in the profile and not the BLOG feature... which i see as two seperate products...

Anyone have any input on this?
It's in beta testing right now. There will probably be more information on it later, but right now the social networking portion is still being worked on. Even we as testers don't have that part of the blog yet.

[john2k]

An idea of time frame would be VERY useful...

I agree it would be useful, but I doubt that is going to happen. Jelsoft did surprise me, though, with the relatively quick release of project tools after it was announced.


3.6.8 has been released which probably indicates that the BLOG component is near final... but we still can't see ANY screenshots?

Screenshots of the SNS component? The blogs are already being used here on this site.

[DannyITR]

My site's user profile page is heavily modified... I'm planning on upgrading from vB3.5 to vB3.6 and would find it very useful of some idea of what the 'new profile' page is going to look like when the 'social networking part' is activated. An idea of time frame would be VERY useful... doesn't need to be anything specific, something along the lines of saying whether it'll be released in August, September...

I'm sure many other people who are contemplating upgrading will find a timeframe very useful.

I'd also love the ability for users to have a profile URL along the lines of domainname.com/username if the forums are installed at domainname.com/forum - domainname.com/username looks a lot more attractive and memorable than domainname.com/forums/username

I echo this 500% as well. Are we even looking at 2007 for a beta version? We need some idea of the time frame. They gave us a rough idea for the blog test release which was very helpful especially for us who make their living off their sites as businesses. We need to plan things out.

[MRGTB]

Well I've seen that many threads since the blog was announced, with people asking for this and that. I wouldn't be that surprised if the Blog timescale has been put way-back now from the original timescale they might have had in mind.

If they have taken some of these many suggestions on-board and decided to implement them. I really wouldn't be that surprised now if were talking a few months down the line added onto the timescale.

[Wayne Luke]

I echo this 500% as well. Are we even looking at 2007 for a beta version? We need some idea of the time frame. They gave us a rough idea for the blog test release which was very helpful especially for us who make their living off their sites as businesses. We need to plan things out.

We're on beta 3 of the blog already. There most likely will not be a public beta test as it is designed as an addon product. It is in private beta currently. Bugfixes and functionality changes have probably pushed back the SNS portion but the developers working on the blog/SNS are moving ahead according to schedule.

[bjornstrom]

I'd like to restrict blogging to certain usergroups - this is supported, right?

[Wayne Luke]

I'd like to restrict blogging to certain usergroups - this is supported, right?
Yes.

[---MAD---]

I hope we get to hear more on the development progress being made after the blog is released, like the one we got a while back telling us the dev team is working on project tools and the blog and when they think it will be ready for private beta etc :). That was very useful indeed.

[Sarthek]

Any vB team stuff mate know when (non-vBulletin) blogs were become public available?

It's been about, ehmmm, years. Now we wait this release, or at least aprox date, when IPB (btw I dont like it), had this long time ago.

[Wayne Luke]

Any vB team stuff mate know when (non-vBulletin) blogs were become public available?

No.. There hasn't been a public date announced. When it is announced, you will know. This date will be determined based on the ongoing private beta test and the issues found.

It hasn't been years as we only started working on the project several months ago.

[---MAD---]

No.. There hasn't been a public date announced. When it is announced, you will know. This date will be determined based on the ongoing private beta test and the issues found.

It hasn't been years as we only started working on the project several months ago.
Will the SNS part be put on vBulletin.com before release or is there no news on that?

[Ranger375]

The vb staff is way too patient with these people. I would have half this board banned by now :D

[ThorstenA]

Suggestion: Make it easier to publish drafts. I had to click on an sub-option Miscellaneous Options to really publish my draft, the Post Entry Button did not work at all. Instead it just saves the post as a draft.

[MRGTB]

Suggestion: Make it easier to publish drafts. I had to click on an sub-option Miscellaneous Options to really publish my draft, the Post Entry Button did not work at all. Instead it just saves the post as a draft.

I must admit, when I made my first Blog post here, it look me like 15 minutes to figure out how to publish is live. :p

[topperge]

I think one of the major features I see missing in the blog integrations is the ability to include your own personal feed. I visit many tech sites but already maintain my own blog on my personal site. It would be nice to be able to put in my RSS or Atom feed URL and just have the blog software aggregate from my site so I don't have to post the same article in 2 or 3 different places. This is becoming one of the great plug-ins on facebook lately.

[TTG]

I must admit, when I made my first Blog post here, it look me like 15 minutes to figure out how to publish is live. :p

Still trying to do that .. care to share :o

[Wayne Luke]

Its simple. On the options make sure it is set to "Publish Now" instead of "Save Draft".

[ThorstenA]

Its simple. On the options make sure it is set to "Publish Now" instead of "Save Draft".
I used to go back and forth more than ten times. Actually I thought my draft was published last week anyway as I then clicked on Post it. It'll be a big hassle assisting my users with drafts. I'd like to have an option to turn off drafts at all as it's absolutely not possible for my forum users to handle them.

[ThorstenA]

Still trying to do that .. care to share :o
That's a big point. And we all are administrators, at least capable of connecting via ftp and changing text configuration files, administer the basic things ... Think of our average forum users handling it ... :D

[raiderlax]

That's a big point. And we all are administrators, at least capable of connecting via ftp and changing text configuration files, administer the basic things ... Think of our average forum users handling it ... :D

Thizz what I talking bout!

[Alastor]

Just an aside...

You said it's an "Add-on." Does it come included with our current license, or will it require an additional license?

IE: What's it cost?

[Onimua]

Just an aside...

You said it's an "Add-on." Does it come included with our current license, or will it require an additional license?

IE: What's it cost?
It has its own license, and it's attached to the vBulletin license you want when you purchase it.

There's no information on how much it will cost. ;)

[TTG]

That's a big point. And we all are administrators, at least capable of connecting via ftp and changing text configuration files, administer the basic things ... Think of our average forum users handling it ... :D

I had assumed they were being moderated before posting, but 6 days later I'm still waiting for it to appear :cool:

[ThorstenA]

I had assumed they were being moderated before posting, but 6 days later I'm still waiting for it to appear :cool:
Despite we are all admins, I do think there's some potential in making the draft -> post process easier.

[Kohhal]

I must admit, when I made my first Blog post here, it look me like 15 minutes to figure out how to publish is live. :p


Despite we are all admins, I do think there's some potential in making the draft -> post process easier.

Same here, it's very confusing!

[Alastor]

Wait, it's not published live just by posting?

I thought mine was.

Oh, it is. Sweet.

[Onimua]

Wait, it's not published live just by posting?

I thought mine was.
It is.

I think they're talking about when you make it a draft instead, and then want to publish it later.

[ThorstenA]

It is.

I think they're talking about when you make it a draft instead, and then want to publish it later.
Exactly. Then it is not post if you click on "Post it". You have to click on post it and the same time edit some configuration ;)

[Marcos2]

We're on beta 3 of the blog already. There most likely will not be a public beta test as it is designed as an addon product. It is in private beta currently. Bugfixes and functionality changes have probably pushed back the SNS portion but the developers working on the blog/SNS are moving ahead according to schedule.

Hey Wayne,

Will the SNS act as an add-on like the blog or is it going to require a complete change in this template so that any modifications we have made to our template will have to go?

Thanks,

Marcos

[Wayne Luke]

It will most likely be a series of plugins, as it is part of the Blog Addon Product. It will not be sold as a separate product as far as I am aware.

[Kevin M Smith]

Ok, maybe I don't get it, I just don't see the point of having a blog alongside a forum. Isn't a blog just a slightly different way of doing the same thing? Why would I install a blog system that would just take away from people posting on the forums? I'm sure there's a good reason you all are excited about this, so please educate me.

[MRGTB]

Ok, maybe I don't get it, I just don't see the point of having a blog alongside a forum. Isn't a blog just a slightly different way of doing the same thing? Why would I install a blog system that would just take away from people posting on the forums? I'm sure there's a good reason you all are excited about this, so please educate me.

I see where your coming from and don't disagree with you, but I think you have to look at the Blog as giving your members some personal space of their own to post stuff.

But I do see your point though. Thats why I would have much sooner have seen a stand alone version, especially with Social Networking tied in.

[RYoBiOS]

How to do for I use your blog?

[Marcos2]

I see where your coming from and don't disagree with you, but I think you have to look at the Blog as giving your members some personal space of their own to post stuff.

But I do see your point though. Thats why I would have much sooner have seen a stand alone version, especially with Social Networking tied in.

I do see how it can give members personal space and how it can keep users on your site instead of going to start a blog with other programs, however I see no logical reason to link the blog and social networking add ons together. They have two different purposes and some people will want a blog only, some will want the SNS only, and some will want both--so why not just provide them as separate add ons instead of combining them and then everyone will be happy? In fact, vBulletin would probably be able to charge more for each individually than together.

In any case, I just think it is bad for us as consumers to have to products tied together that should be sold separately so we don't have to buy something we will never use (I know I will never use the blog component on my site).

[ThorstenA]

I do see how it can give members personal space and how it can keep users on your site instead of going to start a blog with other programs, however I see no logical reason to link the blog and social networking add ons together. They have two different purposes and some people will want a blog only, some will want the SNS only, and some will want both--so why not just provide them as separate add ons instead of combining them and then everyone will be happy? In fact, vBulletin would probably be able to charge more for each individually than together.

In any case, I just think it is bad for us as consumers to have to products tied together that should be sold separately so we don't have to buy something we will never use (I know I will never use the blog component on my site).
Couldn't agree more and I will buy both products anyway.

I am interested in a strong blog and a strong SNS part. I think, it's more likely to achieve that if both products are sold seperately.

[chetcarson]

Ok, maybe I don't get it, I just don't see the point of having a blog alongside a forum. Isn't a blog just a slightly different way of doing the same thing? Why would I install a blog system that would just take away from people posting on the forums? I'm sure there's a good reason you all are excited about this, so please educate me.

Here's why I'm excited about the blogging addon:

The goal of my project is to build a community/network of photographers and subjects. Our photogs do the shooting and the writting, and the subjects are invited to look at thier pix and discuss.

There will be three types of postings on our site:

1. Featured photo essays and articles
2. Community discussion and photo sharing
3. Photographer blogs

Our photographers will use the blogging tool to establish thier persona. Subjects will be interested in learning more about thier photographer and as a result will visit his profile and read his blog. Currently, without the blog, our profiles are lifeless and do little to inform the curious. With the blog, we will be able to create a more illustrative bio and chronicle our activities from which we will link out to related essays, articles, and discussion.

I see the blogs as yet another way to entice viewers into participating with thier commentary and a way to feed them to threads related to the photographer.

[PcosKat]

In a day and age when our members have the choice of a billion different blogging platforms, I just can't see me purchasing this one especially when the blogging platforms being put out by vbadvanced.com and vblogetin.com are far superior at present.
vbAdvanced has blogs?!?! Heading over to check this out.

[PcosKat]

Ok, maybe I don't get it, I just don't see the point of having a blog alongside a forum. Isn't a blog just a slightly different way of doing the same thing? Why would I install a blog system that would just take away from people posting on the forums? I'm sure there's a good reason you all are excited about this, so please educate me.
Much of the 'need' and 'want' will be based on the type of forum you run, and the subject matter...

In my case, I know my members won't want individual blogs, but they'd be all over group blogs...

[MRGTB]

I do see how it can give members personal space and how it can keep users on your site instead of going to start a blog with other programs, however I see no logical reason to link the blog and social networking add ons together. They have two different purposes and some people will want a blog only, some will want the SNS only, and some will want both--so why not just provide them as separate add ons instead of combining them and then everyone will be happy? In fact, vBulletin would probably be able to charge more for each individually than together.

Thing is though, when the Blog was first announced. Just about everybody here was asking for "Social Networking" features to be added to it. That's probably why vBulletin decided to add these features now, instead of a basic Blog without them. Also, when you say people will look at the Blog and go get their own. They can do that regarding the forum also. They could quite easy make a few posts and think - off I go to buy vBulletin or use a free board like phpBB.


In any case, I just think it is bad for us as consumers to have to products tied together that should be sold separately so we don't have to buy something we will never use (I know I will never use the blog component on my site).

Maybe that might have been a better solution, but again I think vBulletin have taken on-board what the masses wanted. Read the announcement feedback on the Blog from start to finish and see how many people are asking for Social Network features to be added.

So blame the masses! :p

Like I said before, I'm like you in that I really am not that bothered about SNS intergrated into the Blog. But what can you do when everybody else wants it?

[MJM]

If the user's profile page had been improved first one of the things that we would have expected is a better ability for the user to present the 'Blogs' already posted at the forums.
This blogs addon has been in my opinion a "reinventing a wheel" that already exists.
The new components in the blog should have been incorporated as enhanced functionalities with the forum structure, in which they could be viewed in a different light when visiting the users profile.
The key issue here is that the fundamental principles behind this software is that built by a community.
Additionally each individual within the community is given due credit for their contributions to the site, with permissions and privileges usergroup based.

Why not offer a more userfriendly way that a reader can view a users Thread based blogs in a forum?
Right now it takes 2 clicks to even view a users threads posted in all forums.

Anyway, I hope that this blog and sns thing gets better.

I rarely visit the blogs here as I find it too time consuming complex compared to the forums.

[ang2el]

So far I would have to agree. Even the early versions of Vblogetin are far more powerful than what vBulletin Blog is showing at present. If the developers add a lot of features to bring this up to the standard that vBlogetin is currently at, then I would be interested.

Obviously, an official VB product has some key advantages. But, only IF the product is actually superior, and I haven't seen enough to convince me that it is even in the same league at the moment.

I agree.

[ang2el]

In a day and age when our members have the choice of a billion different blogging platforms, I just can't see me purchasing this one especially when the blogging platforms being put out by vbadvanced.com and vblogetin.com are far superior at present.


Hope VB's blog would be superior when it comes out.

Its not very good at present though.

[raiderlax]

I see vBulletin has the domain vbulletinblog.com :)

[PcosKat]

I see the blogs have individual feeds. Do the feeds include a node for the first image (if any) that appears in a blog post? (I'm looking through some, but can't find any posts, with images, so i can check the feed.)

ETA
I did the 'heavy lifting' and posted a blog entry with an image, and then checked the feed. The feed contains CONTENT, as well as, CONTENT:ENCODED, so it 'will' include the image. (I'm starting to like this blog thing...)

*pcoskat goes off to think, now that images in feeds are confirmed*

[georgec]

What's the word on global categories, so instead of letting each blogger create their own categories, they are forced to choose from a list of predefined ones by the admin when categorizing their posts?

[Onimua]

What's the word on global categories, so instead of letting each blogger create their own categories, they are forced to choose from a list of predefined ones by the admin when categorizing their posts?
There's no option for this at the moment.

[OS,]

having HTML enabled on the forum isnt safe ofcourse. But can we have HTML enabled and made safe for the blogging area? Myspace and Hi5 do this also.

Any Possibilities?

[Wayne Luke]

having HTML enabled on the forum isnt safe ofcourse. But can we have HTML enabled and made safe for the blogging area? Myspace and Hi5 do this also.

Any Possibilities?

As far as I am aware neither MySpace or Hi5 support BBCode which is a safer alternative to HTML.

[Sephiroth]

Does the blog send pingbacks out to other external blogging systems, like WordPress and the like?

[---MAD---]

I noticed the rating thing in the top right corner. I was thinking, maybe its better to change it from a drop down box to choose your rating and instead have it so all 5 stars show up but fill the stars to show the rating of the thread ie if its a 3 star blog, only 3 stars are filled, the rest are "empty" per say.

[Yours Truly]

I noticed the rating thing in the top right corner. I was thinking, maybe its better to change it from a drop down box to choose your rating and instead have it so all 5 stars show up but fill the stars to show the rating of the thread ie if its a 3 star blog, only 3 stars are filled, the rest are "empty" per say.
That would be a matter of just changing the images :)

[Dream]

Yeah, they stink on ice!

I dunno, I feel that people can come to my site and do whatever makes them happy. Some of them never leave the arcade. Not that there's an official vB arcade or anything ;p

If people come to the site and enjoy it, I'm happy.
amem

The save draft option is confusing, I agree with the other posters.

I would like to see the blogs out fast though and be improved on later, they are good enough for me.

I'm not terribly in need of a SNS solution, but an improved profile page is always welcome, I just hope it doesn't take 3 more months to develop it. That's too much time for little.

Also I would like you to consider using the Blog icons throughout the rest of the forum. The default vBulletin icons aren't bad, but the Blog's are better.

[ericgtr]

amem

The save draft option is confusing, I agree with the other posters.

I would like to see the blogs out fast though and be improved on later, they are good enough for me.

I'm not terribly in need of a SNS solution, but an improved profile page is always welcome, I just hope it doesn't take 3 more months to develop it. That's too much time for little.

Also I would like you to consider using the Blog icons throughout the rest of the forum. The default vBulletin icons aren't bad, but the Blog's are better.
Agreed, at this point it seems like it will be in private beta for a long time. Not sure if it's a matter of integrating SN or not but it would be nice to hear a progress report of some kind. :)

[---MAD---]

Agreed, at this point it seems like it will be in private beta for a long time. Not sure if it's a matter of integrating SN or not but it would be nice to hear a progress report of some kind. :)
They are on beta 4 now. I am guessing they are nearly done with the beta stages (thats if they have been beta testing blog and the SN bit.

@Your truly - No I think you have mis-understood me :). I am sure the devs will understand.

[Onimua]

They are on beta 4 now. I am guessing they are nearly done with the beta stages (thats if they have been beta testing blog and the SN bit.

@Your truly - No I think you have mis-understood me :). I am sure the devs will understand.
Actually, we're on Beta 3 right now. :p

[Ranger375]

How many betas are there?:D

[PitchouneN64ngc]

Beta 1, 2 and 3 for private beta testers. Devs are working about Beta 4 (and I think - i can be wrong - the SN part will be available) :)

[PcosKat]

I'm not terribly in need of a SNS solution, but an improved profile page is always welcome, I just hope it doesn't take 3 more months to develop it.
for real.

[OS,]

Beta 1, 2 and 3 for private beta testers. Devs are working about Beta 4 (and I think - i can be wrong - the SN part will be available) :)

We havent even seen screenshots of SN yet, i highly doubt SN will even be out this year. But the blog will most certainly be out before next year.

[DannyITR]

We havent even seen screenshots of SN yet, i highly doubt SN will even be out this year. But the blog will most certainly be out before next year.

Any comment on this from VB?

[Sychev_S]

We havent even seen screenshots of SN yet, i highly doubt SN will even be out this year. But the blog will most certainly be out before next year.
Next year? lol
The blog is almost ready (just look in the blogs section and projects section). The SN part shouldn't take more than a month. Just my educated guess.

[OS,]

Next year? lol
The blog is almost ready (just look in the blogs section and projects section). The SN part shouldn't take more than a month. Just my educated guess.

lol i did say the blog will be released before 2008, i read that we yet have alpha 4 testing to come out who the beta testers will be testing.

SN is a bigger project than the blog i believe, like we have seen screenshots for the blog, we havent seen any screenshots for SN yet, just that its in progress. Well thats my educated guess also, :)

[Sychev_S]

beta testers are already testing Beta 3 and developers will soon release Beta 4 for them which pretty much means the blog should be done in a couple of weeks, if even that. Just because nobody posted the screenshots of the sn part doesnt mean the developers aren't working on it. =) I remmember seeing the new profile in its initial stages of development about 2 months ago when the developers forgot to revert the memberinfo template. It was nothin special, just a template, but again it was 2 months ago and it means that somebody is working on it =)

[OS,]

beta testers are already testing Beta 3 and developers will soon release Beta 4 for them which pretty much means the blog should be done in a couple of weeks, if even that. Just because nobody posted the screenshots of the sn part doesnt mean the developers aren't working on it. =) I remmember seeing the new profile in its initial stages of development about 2 months ago when the developers forgot to revert the memberinfo template. It was nothin special, just a template, but again it was 2 months ago and it means that somebody is working on it =)

lol i never said their not working on it. They are working on it and it was mentioned several times. But can you see how long the blog is taking even after the screenshots were released? What makes you think SN will be released before 2008? "I" like you am making an educated guess. Blog before 2007 and SN after 2007.

They yet have to release screenshots (not that they have to), but im sure they need to acquire testers, if not the current testers. It has to go through the testing phase still, and we havent heard much about SN other than that they are working on it.

[Ranger375]

Didnt they say the blog, SN, and enhanced profiles would be released as one package? If so, I doubt they would release them separately.

[aberg]

Hope VB's blog would be superior when it comes out.

Its not very good at present though.
Agreed with that, there are better blogs than what I have see so far.
If I take a look at http://www.madebymary.com/demoarea/vbclubs.php I think this is what make a blog special between the other blogs.
The Vbulletin blog make no impression on me this moment

[Michael2]

To me what I'm paying for is support, something I know will always be compatible with vBulletin. I'm willing to pay more for an "inferior" product if it offers seamless integration and support. And I don't expect a perfect product at release but from my experience with vBulletin I have no doubt they'll continue to improve upon it.

[---MAD---]

Agreed with that, there are better blogs than what I have see so far.
If I take a look at http://www.madebymary.com/demoarea/vbclubs.php I think this is what make a blog special between the other blogs.
The Vbulletin blog make no impression on me this moment
I don't like that blog on that like at all, looks very bad.

Didnt they say the blog, SN, and enhanced profiles would be released as one package? If so, I doubt they would release them separately.
Exactly. They said its 1 addon :).

[Michael2]

One thing you can do to monitor the progress is check the projects portion for confirmed bugs. There were 22 a few days ago, now there are 11. There are 4 rated a "highest" priority. I would assume those numbers will go down before we see anything.

[MRGTB]

Didnt they say the blog, SN, and enhanced profiles would be released as one package? If so, I doubt they would release them separately.

Yes, it has been said that Blog has been set-back because of the SN intergration being added.

[Lpspider]

Agreed with that, there are better blogs than what I have see so far.
If I take a look at http://www.madebymary.com/demoarea/vbclubs.php I think this is what make a blog special between the other blogs.
The Vbulletin blog make no impression on me this moment

It looks ugly but has a lot of features that would be awesome.

Personally, I'd still love to have a users picture gallery built in.

[Onimua]

We havent even seen screenshots of SN yet, i highly doubt SN will even be out this year. But the blog will most certainly be out before next year.

It's all part of the same product. ;)

[Dilly]

Agreed with that, there are better blogs than what I have see so far.
If I take a look at http://www.madebymary.com/demoarea/vbclubs.php I think this is what make a blog special between the other blogs.
The Vbulletin blog make no impression on me this moment
That's so badly done its barely usable.

[Ranger375]

That's so badly done its barely usable.


x2!!!!!!!!!

[Ohiosweetheart]

Agreed with that, there are better blogs than what I have see so far.
If I take a look at http://www.madebymary.com/demoarea/vbclubs.php I think this is what make a blog special between the other blogs.
The Vbulletin blog make no impression on me this moment


That's so badly done its barely usable.

oh gawd, I'll agree with that, for sure.

[Alfa1]

An update on the status of the Social Networking / Profile enhancement part of the Jelsoft add-on would be awesome.

[aberg]

That's so badly done its barely usable.


oh gawd, I'll agree with that, for sure.
What I want to say is that this blog software has a lot of features.
So it is new and with some help and time it can be a good blog.
What I so far have see from vblog isn't new and gives no new features.
Take a look of http://www.vbadvanced.com/products.php?do=productinfo&p=7
Tell me what is the differents between Vblog and this.
Or take a look on vbloggie.
As I say, I think that is maybe better to stay in core business and development Vbulletin forum software.
There are a lot of wishes for Vbulletin version 4.
Let other compagny's make the blogs,they have already the blogs relaised

[jeffinj]

Ok, maybe I don't get it, I just don't see the point of having a blog alongside a forum. Isn't a blog just a slightly different way of doing the same thing? Why would I install a blog system that would just take away from people posting on the forums? I'm sure there's a good reason you all are excited about this, so please educate me.

Actually, you are bound to get more visitors those that bloggers invite. Unlike a chat system, with a blog system you don't lose any data and its searchable. If you still don't like the blog feature, just don't buy it. I have it on my forum and my members only appreciated it. Seriously, participation on my forums have only gone up. :)

[Sychev_S]

What I want to say is that this blog software has a lot of features.
So it is new and with some help and time it can be a good blog.
What I so far have see from vblog isn't new and gives no new features.
Take a look of http://www.vbadvanced.com/products.php?do=productinfo&p=7
Tell me what is the differents between Vblog and this.
Or take a look on vbloggie.
As I say, I think that is maybe better to stay in core business and development Vbulletin forum software.
There are a lot of wishes for Vbulletin version 4.
Let other compagny's make the blogs,they have already the blogs relaised
Other companies keep shutting down, closing their developments, freezing their projects. That's what happens especially when there is only a few people involved in the project. After a certain period of time hey get worn out and shut everything down leaving customers with unsupported and outdated proucts.

Jelsoft on the other hand will always be there, supporting their products and their customers, keeping it up to date. The do not encode their products, they do not bail on their customers. They are working on the add on for THEIR VERY OWN platform. The platform that they know inside out. I would trust them a lot more than any of the "competitors".

Just my .02 cents.

[Marcos2]

Any way we could get a screen shot of the SNS soon? :)

[MRGTB]

Other companies keep shutting down, closing their developments, freezing their projects. That's what happens especially when there is only a few people involved in the project. After a certain period of time hey get worn out and shut everything down leaving customers with unsupported and outdated proucts.

Jelsoft on the other hand will always be there, supporting their products and their customers, keeping it up to date. The do not encode their products, they do not bail on their customers. They are working on the add on for THEIR VERY OWN platform. The platform that they know inside out. I would trust them a lot more than any of the "competitors".

Just my .02 cents.

Never say never, I learned that the hard way once after saying that myself about another thing.

[---MAD---]

What I want to say is that this blog software has a lot of features.
So it is new and with some help and time it can be a good blog.
What I so far have see from vblog isn't new and gives no new features.
Take a look of http://www.vbadvanced.com/products.php?do=productinfo&p=7
Tell me what is the differents between Vblog and this.
Or take a look on vbloggie.
As I say, I think that is maybe better to stay in core business and development Vbulletin forum software.
There are a lot of wishes for Vbulletin version 4.
Let other compagny's make the blogs,they have already the blogs relaised
Reason is because Jelsoft provides the best support and stable+secure products. If theres a security hole, they patch it within 24 hours which is what we all need.

Some prefer high tech features instead of security and stability UNTIL that developer gives up and moves on to something new where he/she can make more money in less time or finds a new hobby.

Reason I think people use other products is because they are developed faster and progress is made much faster than a company product from Jelsoft because over here the developers have to focus on 3 products now and fix/develop all 3 whilst there they may focus on that product for a long time. Many already are worried how developers at vb will cope with the extra work load because even without addons, progress with vbulletin itself was very slow which many complained about (just search for it).

[aranthorn]

Also, that add-on is not 100% integrated. It's nice, but have a look through the demo. There's no userCP integration, etc.

echo the others on vB's support :)

[Xil Ze]

Reason I think people use other products is because they are developed faster and progress is made much faster than a company product from Jelsoft because over here the developers have to focus on 3 products now and fix/develop all 3 whilst there they may focus on that product for a long time. Many already are worried how developers at vb will cope with the extra work load because even without addons, progress with vbulletin itself was very slow which many complained about (just search for it).


not to mention that vbulletin is primarily a forum product. the only way that the vbulletin product will become fully integrated is if jelsoft heads full tilt into what people have come to expect of web 2.0.

and in vba's defense, they're a well established unit with fine products.

[MRGTB]

Well the only gripe I would have about vBa is the fact in the past when I used to use vBa. People would report problems and bugs. Brian would then post fixes.

But then in the next update release. You would find them same problems still there and not fixed. I could never really undertand the mentallity of that. plus he would never update the download with the new fixes, as and when found. I mean he's a nice guy and I don't mean it in a bad way. But that just put me of using it if he wasn't going to update the download when bugs were found and fixes posted (usually always by him).

[---MAD---]

Not sure if I am blind or it simply doesnt show but where is the blog version shown (other than admincp obviously)?

[Onimua]

It isn't shown anywhere else on the front-end as far as I have seen. It's the same for Project Tools.

[MJM]

It isn't shown anywhere else on the front-end as far as I have seen. It's the same for Project Tools.

Good. That means we should not have to pay for an extra copyright removal if we use it. :)

[we_are_borg]

not to mention that vbulletin is primarily a forum product. the only way that the vbulletin product will become fully integrated is if jelsoft heads full tilt into what people have come to expect of web 2.0.

and in vba's defense, they're a well established unit with fine products.

What i expect from web 2.0 is that every product can be intergrated in one product just like Jelsoft is doing now. But that also means that the product needs to be good and stabel. I'm waiting for the blog but would like to see a demo of the admin panel.

[Sarthek]

I ve becomed very frustrated as blog development is on status quo, withouth any release date (or aprox time). I expected blogs would be released till 15.of jul 07, but this seems endless road to go.

Time, however, goes by fast and others who choosed different software have this solution (and other) available long time.

Don't get me wrong, I choosed vB and I am more than satisfied with it, but waiting for this addon seems neverending story.

And you ppl just don't do anything to make us updated.

[Onimua]

I ve becomed very frustrated as blog development is on status quo, withouth any release date (or aprox time). I expected blogs would be released till 15.of jul 07, but this seems endless road to go.

Time, however, goes by fast and others who choosed different software have this solution (and other) available long time.

Don't get me wrong, I choosed vB and I am more than satisfied with it, but waiting for this addon seems neverending story.

And you ppl just don't do anything to make us updated.
Why did you expect them to be released on the 15th of July? There wasn't any indication of any release date of the blog for that day.

[PitchouneN64ngc]

If users have any approximative release date and the product didn't come around this date, users won't be happy because the date will be past and nothing came.

If users haven't any approximative release date, users won't be happy and they will post a lot of time "have you a release date? I'm fed up to wait for this".

So.. stop to post these type of questions, vB devs don't have any date about the release of the add-on and the date will be known when the product will be released (never before).

In my propre opinion, I expect (just expect, please don't start to follow this) a release in some months. Why?

For some reasons:

The "Social Network" part is not ready (beta testers don't have this part and if it will be ready to test, it will be activated here as blog feature) and can't be dissociable (i think a lot of users don't know what means "dissociable" as i can see in some posts...).
We are in Beta 3 for beta testers. A Beta 4 is in preparation (and won't be available for them sine some days, i think it's for integrate the SN part). For a product is released, it must to be declared before as "Release Candidate". Until this step is not reached, you can't expect a release for soon.
As the SN part is not in debug test by beta testers, the Beta period steps can't be reduced. Some bugs will be found during the Beta process of the SN part, this can add the Beta process until version Beta 6 or more (rmember about vB 3.0.x, there was 7 betas before the first release candidate version).I hope only one thing: my post is comprehensible in the way vB Staff won't announce any release date for any past, present and future product (vBulletin or add-on).

PS: for those who remember when vB Staff has announced some years ago a release date of vB3, can know between the expected date and the real release date, there was 2 years between them.

Do not wait any release date for now.

*I hope I won't be rejected by anybody :D*

[MRGTB]

I agree, I think people just have to be patient. It no use keep moaning about the release date. It will get released when it's ready. And only then!

[Michael2]

I wouldn't expect them to announce a release date but an update would be nice. What they've done and what they have yet to do.

[PitchouneN64ngc]

I know you are impatient to use this cool addon and you would like to know what is done for now ;), but as long as i'm here, i know vB Staff won't post anything until it's finished (until beta testers can debug it).

[Onimua]

I know you are impatient to use this cool addon and you would like to know what is done for now ;), but as long as i'm here, i know vB Staff won't post anything until it's finished (until beta testers can debug it).
It's true, some of us beta testers are giving a bit of information/insight, so even if Jelsoft isn't saying anything official we kind of are mentioning some things. :p

[we_are_borg]

I wish Jelsoft would sell the beta to us users just like some other developers do. We get a discount (50% or so) when we buy the beta and when its gold then the one year updates will begin. Then users can get the software and help debugging and they can start to play with it.

[---MAD---]

I wouldn't expect them to announce a release date but an update would be nice. What they've done and what they have yet to do.
I agree, we havent heard anything on development updates (for blog and whatever is next - ie vb 4.0) for a few months now.

[MRGTB]

yeah, I guess it would be nice to hear what been added now, or where things are up to etc. Just some more information

[MaxisSpieler]

hello
how does one write contributions in blog?

[we_are_borg]

hello
how does one write contributions in blog?

In the navbar you see Blogs press it, then on your left side you will see Go to my Blog (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/blog.php?u=53234) Post to my Blog (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/blog_post.php?do=newblog). The rest is simple experimenting.

[Steve Machol]

Those options are only available to licensed customers.

[Mbx]

I wish Jelsoft would sell the beta to us users just like some other developers do. We get a discount (50% or so) when we buy the beta and when its gold then the one year updates will begin. Then users can get the software and help debugging and they can start to play with it.

I fully agree to that. It was done for VB 3 too.. so why not ?

[dkg]

We're needing to upgrade vB (can you believe our current version is 2.2.8??). We've been customers for probably 6 years if not longer and hacked the last version we upgraded so much we've stalled and stalled in spite of all the advancements you've made. Now you've given us the best reason to take the leap: adding both blogging and social networking. I know the blog is in beta. And I realize you can't put anything into stone, but can you advise about how much longer before we might have a final version of social networking to integrate with vB? When we upgrade to the newest version we'll immediately have to begin adding a few hacks and it makes sense (to me at least) to get the version with social networking and blogging out of beta before we start our own hacking job.

Any clues? Even a rough time frame would be greatly appreciated. End of summer? End of fall? Something maybe?? I swear I'll not hold you to it.

Also, maybe you can advise if upgrading to the latest version and then hacking portions BEFORE we get the latest non-beta version with blogging and social networking would be a nightmarish mistake? Maybe the way you're going to integrate those features will be more like plug-ins and easier to add than I imagine?

Keith

[Onimua]

We're needing to upgrade vB (can you believe our current version is 2.2.8??). We've been customers for probably 6 years if not longer and hacked the last version we upgraded so much we've stalled and stalled in spite of all the advancements you've made. Now you've given us the best reason to take the leap: adding both blogging and social networking. I know the blog is in beta. And I realize you can't put anything into stone, but can you advise about how much longer before we might have a final version of social networking to integrate with vB? When we upgrade to the newest version we'll immediately have to begin adding a few hacks and it makes sense (to me at least) to get the version with social networking and blogging out of beta before we start our own hacking job.

Any clues? Even a rough time frame would be greatly appreciated. End of summer? End of fall? Something maybe?? I swear I'll not hold you to it.

Also, maybe you can advise if upgrading to the latest version and then hacking portions BEFORE we get the latest non-beta version with blogging and social networking would be a nightmarish mistake? Maybe the way you're going to integrate those features will be more like plug-ins and easier to add than I imagine?

Keith

I doubt they'd ever give some sort of general release date.

I would say upgrade regardless. Might take some time, especially if your board has been modified a bit, so before anything else is added it might be best to take some time in advancing your board. Plus, with the new advanced in vBulletin, you could probably turn most of the modifications you made into plugins so make upgrading a ton easier in the future.

Really, with the Plugin/Hooks system, there should be very little to no modifying the vBulletin files any more.

[Kihon Kata]

My users are driving me crazy over the vB blogs. They don't wanna wait anymore, when will this blog be made available to us?
All good things to those who wait.

[Onimua]

My users are driving me crazy over the vB blogs. They don't wanna wait anymore, when will this blog be made available to us?
There's no release information right now. It's in beta testing right now.

[Michael2]

Down to 3 bugs, that's got to be a good sign. :)

[hornstar6969]

I just really really want to see some of the social networking side of things (profile enhancements) and more integration.

Any info, screen shots, demos, etc. would be great to keep me smiling lol

[PitchouneN64ngc]

We are in Beta 4 for now, and we have no more information from vB Staff.

[PcosKat]

I just really really want to see some of the social networking side of things (profile enhancements) and more integration.

Any info, screen shots, demos, etc. would be great to keep me smiling lol
Same here...starting to give up hope...

[AVC]

How are you going to give up hope on a new product that has never been released yet ??? :eek:

[Sychev_S]

Seriously, what's with all the whining? Clearly, the developers are working on the product, clearly it is being tested by the beta testers. I would rather have them take their time and come up with something that's good, has a lot of features and has as little bugs as possible.
"Give up hope"...Give me a break. lol :)

[jeffinj]

I just really really want to see some of the social networking side of things (profile enhancements) and more integration.

Any info, screen shots, demos, etc. would be great to keep me smiling lol

A sneak peak would make my week. :p

[Stilgar]

A sneak peak would make my week. :p

"peek" "weak"? :D

Sneak peek us! :eek:

[Eagle Eyes]

Same here...starting to give up hope...

I know how you feel. Its frustrating. :mad:

[jeffinj]

Excitingly frustrating. :D

[Cyber Smoke]

"peek" "weak"? :D

Sneak peek us! :eek:

Pickwick (http://www.pickwicktea.com/intl/home) ftw! Gives you strength for a worth wait. :p

[Michael2]

Down to 1 confirmed bug in the projects section. :)

One thing I haven't seen that seems like it would be a nice (and simple) addition is views for individual blog entries, I would think it could work the same as thread views.

[FBJunkie]

Sounds like we're getting closer. I have been watching the Blog Project and it looks like a lot of fixes have been made to where the Blog is becoming more stable. And correct me if I am wrong, but it appears that the beta testing has moved to testing a release candidate?

[Onimua]

Sounds like we're getting closer. I have been watching the Blog Project and it looks like a lot of fixes have been made to where the Blog is becoming more stable. And correct me if I am wrong, but it appears that the beta testing has moved to testing a release candidate?
No, we're still on beta 4. :)

[FBJunkie]

I am not trying to start any rumors or heighten anticipation for release; I just saw in the "affected version" drop down box 1.2 of the blog project tools, but perhaps that's there for future use.

[---MAD---]

I am not trying to start any rumors or heighten anticipation for release; I just saw in the "affected version" drop down box 1.2 of the blog project tools, but perhaps that's there for future use.
Thats been there for a while, probably since the start.

Regarding the edit by bit mentioned here http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/blog.php?b=788:

What about having a small image appear next to the report comment / blog when the blog / comment is edit, and when you hover over you can see the details? If you click it you can see even more details (not even necessary to be clickable).

[Wayne Luke]

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1407301&postcount=4

[Ranger375]

Since the social networking portion is being released with 3.7, where does the enhanced profile feature stand (or is that part of the social network?)

[rellek]

Please God, make the Prefix-Hack being a default feature for vB 3.7 ;)

[Wayne Luke]

Since the social networking portion is being released with 3.7, where does the enhanced profile feature stand (or is that part of the social network?)
The enhanced profile is part of Social Networking.

[Ranger375]

The enhanced profile is part of Social Networking.

\
ahh thanks Wayne

[jeffinj]

Yooohoooo. So it comes free right? :D Or do we need to pay to unlock this feature?

[ThorstenA]

Very great news, although I am that excited about the SN part I'd pay for it :D

[ThorstenA]

Or do we need to pay to unlock this feature?
You'll get it for free as mentioned in announcement post.

[---MAD---]

Sounds great!

[jeffinj]

You'll get it for free as mentioned in announcement post.

Cool. :D

[|Norman|]

We look forward to bringing you both vBulletin Blog and the vBulletin 3.7, which will contain the social networking component and a few other new features.

Great! I can't wait. :)

[doshomik]

Both in response to feedback from customers, to allow easier development, and in order to bring the Blog to market more quickly, it has been decided that the social networking component that had been originally intended to be released as part of the vBulletin Blog product will now instead be released with vBulletin 3.7.0.

This means that all existing vBulletin customers will gain the social networking component (although they can of course disable it through the control panel should they decide to do so) when they upgrade to the version of vBulletin that contains it, rather than having to purchase additional products.

We look forward to bringing you both vBulletin Blog and the vBulletin 3.7, which will contain the social networking component and a few other new features.

this is indeed the gr8 & big news for us :D

/me waiting for vBulletin 3.7.0

[r007]

Pardon my stupidity, but what exactly is the social networking part?

[MaxisSpieler]

I find it good, and hopefully that comes prefix chops purely

[raiderlax]

Pardon my stupidity, but what exactly is the social networking part?

yes good question, I would also like to know. Like what new features, etc...

[jeffinj]

Pardon my stupidity, but what exactly is the social networking part?

Probably a myspace or facebook like page with more user details. ;)

[simsim]

This is really great news. The profile system was always there, it just needed a hard refresh. :)

[ManagerJosh]

okay, now it begs the question...

HOW LONG TILL vBULLETIN 3.7?? :D :D :D

One Year? :D Two Years? A few months? :D

[Reeve of Shinra]

So the blogs wont be released until vb 3.7 ... any chance we can get it in beta prior to the official release of vb3.7? The current version of the blog appears to be pretty stable.

[PitchouneN64ngc]

vBulletin Blog will be available for vB 3.6.8 minimum, this feature is unchanged.

[---MAD---]

So the blogs wont be released until vb 3.7 ... any chance we can get it in beta prior to the official release of vb3.7? The current version of the blog appears to be pretty stable.
No no no, blog will be released much before then. Thats why they split the blog and social networking side from the blog add on, to reduce the addons time to be completed and released ;).

[Reeve of Shinra]

Thats what I'm hoping for!

[MrNase]

vB 3.7.0? Sounds great! :)

[Razasharp]

vBulletin Blog: Slight Change of Plans

Both in response to feedback from customers, to allow easier development, and in order to bring the Blog to market more quickly, it has been decided that the social networking component that had been originally intended to be released as part of the vBulletin Blog product will now instead be released with vBulletin 3.7.0.

This means that all existing vBulletin customers will gain the social networking component (although they can of course disable it through the control panel should they decide to do so) when they upgrade to the version of vBulletin that contains it, rather than having to purchase additional products.

We look forward to bringing you both vBulletin Blog and the vBulletin 3.7, which will contain the social networking component and a few other new features.

Sounds great :)

I hope the wait is not going to be long - we really need those SN profiles...

[0ptima]

I wished that the SN part was an addon and not part of the core as I doubt that I will use it. Being part of the core, will probably mean more frequent updates as the vb core is bigger and there is more chances of finding bugs and exploits.

[Onimua]

I wished that the SN part was an addon and not part of the core as I doubt that I will use it. Being part of the core, will probably mean more frequent updates as the vb core is bigger and there is more chances of finding bugs and exploits.
It's already been stated that it's optional to have it on or off. ;)

[0ptima]

It's already been stated that it's optional to have it on or off. ;)

But the code will still exist, which means it there will be more code that could be buggy or exploitable.

[Alfa1]

Based upon the past experience with Jelsoft, I think that would be highly unlikely.

[Onimua]

You're being a bit paranoid, don't you think?

It's not like there hasn't been new code introduced before that was completely bug free. Look at what happened with vBulletin 3.6.8. ;) It's 3.7.0; a new semi-major release, so I'm sure there will probably be general bugs all over and not just for the new SN portion.

As for exploits, I don't know why that's also an issue for you. If there's a problem, it'll be fixed. This is the vBulletin team we're dealing with, not a group of part-time developers. What is so different that you're worried about bugs or exploits now?

[0ptima]

What is so different that you're worried about bugs or exploits now?


I just dont like to upgrade my hacked forum.

[Kaelon]

Both in response to feedback from customers, to allow easier development, and in order to bring the Blog to market more quickly, it has been decided that the social networking component that had been originally intended to be released as part of the vBulletin Blog product will now instead be released with vBulletin 3.7.0.

This means that all existing vBulletin customers will gain the social networking component (although they can of course disable it through the control panel should they decide to do so) when they upgrade to the version of vBulletin that contains it, rather than having to purchase additional products.

We look forward to bringing you both vBulletin Blog and the vBulletin 3.7, which will contain the social networking component and a few other new features.

Personally, I'm thrilled about this. I just want to get my hands on the vBulletin Blog, which hands down beats the competition (vBlogetin, vBadvanced Dynamics, etc.) in every single way imaginable.

[Itworx4me]

Very disappointed in the Announcement for the blogs and social network. Its always a wait and see deal with vbulletin. Might see the blogs in a month or so but probably won't see the social network til next year. Very disappointed for those who were counting on getting this feature soon. :(

[Ranger375]

I just dont like to upgrade my hacked forum.


So your forum is already hacked? :D

[MJM]

I hope that 3.7 will also include other enhancments to the user profile interface, giving users ...

- ability to create a better "about me" page

- ability to better present their "blog threads" already posted at the forums.

- ability to include links in their profile

- the option to choose who (members/unregistered) can see their profile

... and other numerous User Profile enhancement requests.


We look forward to bringing you both vBulletin Blog and the vBulletin 3.7, which will contain the social networking component and a few other new features.

Ditto > Looking forward :)

[Razasharp]

But the code will still exist, which means it there will be more code that could be buggy or exploitable.

I second the guy below...


Based upon the past experience with Jelsoft, I think that would be highly unlikely.

[Dream]

Great news, can't wait for the blogs :)

I think this was a good decision, cheers.

[AVC]

Some of you people are worry warts, if you need a social network script that bad they are already on the market, buy one and set up your social network separate from your forums.

[Reeve of Shinra]

The same hold true for CMS's and blogs but at that point, I would be migrating off of vbulletin to make integrating the rest of my site easier. We <3 vbulletin and are begging for the tools we need to continue using this system.

[Kihon Kata]

Uhm, no


Some of you people are worry warts, if you need a social network script that bad they are already on the market, buy one and set up your social network separate from your forums.

[stryka]

this is almost comical... the decision to seperate the two is the right one... so they shut alot of ppl up who were waiting on both SN and BLOG ... but now we must wait even longer for the SN piece cuz VB gave themselves more time to code it with that announcement... LOL... everyone will now be waiting for 3.7... and still no timeframe given...

[Onimua]

Everyone will always be waiting for the next version, even with a timeframe. :p

[hornstar6969]

I think it is great news really. Think about it.

Not everyone wanted the social networking component. Some only wanted the blog. This now means the blog can come out much sooner!

Some people only wanted the social networking component and not the blog. This is great! we now will be getting it for free! and the wait for the social networking component is not really going to be any different being apart of 3.7 or with the blog, because IMO it was holding the blog back.

This is really good news! thanks.

[K4L]

So your forum is already hacked? :D

he means 'modified'. you probably knew that.
SN sounds good but hopefully i wont have to do changes to my theme...

[---MAD---]

Very disappointed in the Announcement for the blogs and social network. Its always a wait and see deal with vbulletin. Might see the blogs in a month or so but probably won't see the social network til next year. Very disappointed for those who were counting on getting this feature soon. :(
I think this is a good move actually. It will allow them to do much more and also allow everyone to have the SN part included out of the default package.

[DannyITR]

Sounds great :)

I hope the wait is not going to be long - we really need those SN profiles...


Very disappointed in the Announcement for the blogs and social network. Its always a wait and see deal with vbulletin. Might see the blogs in a month or so but probably won't see the social network til next year. Very disappointed for those who were counting on getting this feature soon. :(

grrrr I second both of these quotes.

[AVC]

This is good if the modules are separated, in addition I think the developers at vBulletin know what they are doing, all scripts need tested before they can be sold and backed up properly.

I really don't think a ton of forums will add either of these new features anyway, most of the modules and plug ins available for vBulletin are not used by most forums.

The major advantage of this development is not having to update outside scripts when you update your forums or having to deal with conflicting code and bugs in non-vB scripts.

CMPS is nice, but how many users really stop and use it before hitting the forums?

Not many, so until users really want this stuff and will use it, I think a lot of people are barking up a big tree at this point.

[Dream]

I think this is a good move actually. It will allow them to do much more and also allow everyone to have the SN part included out of the default package.
How will it allow them to do much more than they could do before?

[---MAD---]

How will it allow them to do much more than they could do before?
Because they can modify more now without people saying it has too many edits etc. Since its a major version, you can expect loads of changes to templates, files etc :). They also have more time on their hands now since the pressure of releasing it with the blog is no longer there :).

[john2k]

Quick, somebody check the code and find two vulnerabilities in vB. Tell Jelsoft about one of them as soon as you find it, that should take care of version 3.6.9. Then a day or two after that version is available, tell them about the other vulnerability and then we will have our long awaited 3.7.0!!!! ;) :D Social Networking will be in version 3.7, right? ;)

All joking aside, I'm very glad to be seeing consistent progress with the new products.

[PitchouneN64ngc]

If vB 3.6.9 is released and need any type of update, it will not be 3.7.0 but 3.6.10 (like in vB 3.0.x branch: 3.0.17) ;)

[---MAD---]

If vB 3.6.9 is released and need any type of update, it will not be 3.7.0 but 3.6.10 (like in vB 3.0.x branch: 3.0.17) ;)
Actually it would be 3.6.8 PL1, PL2 etc if its a security bug :p.

[PitchouneN64ngc]

I mean for maintenance releases ;)

[Lethe]

We look forward to bringing you both vBulletin Blog and the vBulletin 3.7, which will contain the social networking component and a few other new features.
i hope one of the new features will be human readable urls..(with switch on/off)

I love vbulletin (: http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2577/heartqc0.gif

[Mixtoon]

Ok, I'm new here !

Should I wait for 3.7.0? or start with 3.6.8?

[PitchouneN64ngc]

vB 3.7 isn't for today or for the upcoming days, you can start with vB 3.6.8 now ;)

[Mixtoon]

vB 3.7 isn't for today or for the upcoming days, you can start with vB 3.6.8 now ;)

Thanks alot PitchouneN64ngc ;)

[---MAD---]

Ok, I'm new here !

Should I wait for 3.7.0? or start with 3.6.8?
If you are willing to wait as long as a piece of string, then wait for 3.7. If you want to get started now or whenever you feel like it, go for 3.6.8 ;). You can always upgrade to 3.7 when its released very easily (unless you hack your board to the extreme).

[subnet_rx]

I've had complaints about the blog product, but I want to say thanks to vB for making the social networking component a part of 3.7. I think social networking is integral to have a real community, so it should be a part of a forum product.

[jeffinj]

I really wanted the SN part and not the blogs. This announcement made me happy. :D

[subnet_rx]

Yeah, I am not sure that blogs couldn't have been accomplished using the forum format. It'd be a different take on blogs, but with all the blog services out there, I'm not sure any of my members will be blogging on my site anytime soon.

[Flexo]

Yeah, I am not sure that blogs couldn't have been accomplished using the forum format. It'd be a different take on blogs, but with all the blog services out there, I'm not sure any of my members will be blogging on my site anytime soon.Then rejoice, you'll save money when not buying the blog upgrade ;)

My users have been asking for ages, so I really hope it'll be available soon.

[Wayne Luke]

I wished that the SN part was an addon and not part of the core as I doubt that I will use it. Being part of the core, will probably mean more frequent updates as the vb core is bigger and there is more chances of finding bugs and exploits.

Actually because it is becoming part of vBulletin, the testing should be more rigorous. The beta test pool for a new version of vBulletin is everyone who has an active license. That is thousands of testers. Where the private testing pool for the blog addon is much much smaller.

[Ohiosweetheart]

I'm trying not to get too excited about this announcement yet, since we still don't know all that the SN feature will entail. Is it going to be like MySpace but not part of MySpace?Is it going to link us up to MySpace? (Personally, I hope not)I'm still holding my breath on this... :rolleyes:

[Dream]

Actually because it is becoming part of vBulletin, the testing should be more rigorous. The beta test pool for a new version of vBulletin is everyone who has an active license. That is thousands of testers. Where the private testing pool for the blog addon is much much smaller.
Does this means everyone with a license will be able to test 3.7? I don't remember any 3.x public beta testing other than 3.0.

[Wayne Luke]

Is it going to link us up to MySpace?


Definately isn't linking you up to MySpace. They don't even provide that functionality. Its enhanced user profiles where people can communicate via profiles. The closest example would be something like MySpace or Facebook. Social Networking is more of a way of doing things though than how it is done. Technically if you have a vBulletin forum, your site is already involved in social networking. Most people consider it to be more with friend lists, comments in profiles, customizable profiles and things such as that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_networking

[Wayne Luke]

Does this means everyone with a license will be able to test 3.7? I don't remember any 3.x public beta testing other than 3.0.


3.6 Beta 1 Release Announcement:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187654

3.5 Beta 1 Release Announcement:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142024

There was no 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, or 3.4 release.

[Dream]

Oh thanks for clarifying, I didn't remember that.

[Bahrain]

I dont know if this been mentioned before but i am just asking about the way of managing\moderating the blog or the social network, how it will be, i mean can we assign one moderator for the blogs? to edit or delete or it will be managed by the administrator ? if i turn the blog on , it will be available for all users or we can delegated by groups? also can we moderate the blog before its been posted ? alot of qustions about the way blog will be behaive?

[poolking]

My users are driving me crazy over the vB blogs. They don't wanna wait anymore, when will this blog be made available to us?

Are they going crazy because you promised them a release date?

[Fusion]

I dont know if this been mentioned before but i am just asking about the way of managing\moderating the blog or the social network, how it will be, i mean can we assign one moderator for the blogs? to edit or delete or it will be managed by the administrator ? if i turn the blog on , it will be available for all users or we can delegated by groups? also can we moderate the blog before its been posted ? alot of qustions about the way blog will be behaive?
Nothing is really known yet, but if I were to hazard a guess I'd say that the blog will also include a full set of permissions, much like vBulletin itself does, ie. you'll be able to assign who can use it, moderate it etc.
Just wait and see.

[---MAD---]

My users are driving me crazy over the vB blogs. They don't wanna wait anymore, when will this blog be made available to us?
When its ready. Theres no release date. There never will be until the product is released.

I had a look on your forum and didn't notice any hype over a blog addon so I guess when you say "users" you mean "me" or "admins" ;).

[Ohiosweetheart]

Definately isn't linking you up to MySpace. They don't even provide that functionality. Its enhanced user profiles where people can communicate via profiles. The closest example would be something like MySpace or Facebook. Social Networking is more of a way of doing things though than how it is done. Technically if you have a vBulletin forum, your site is already involved in social networking. Most people consider it to be more with friend lists, comments in profiles, customizable profiles and things such as that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_networking

Excellent! Thank you Wayne.

[seangworld]

ok, since nobody gives out release dates, how about APPROXIMATELY WHEN?

AND I WANT TO BE A BETA TESTER, HOW DO I BECOME ONE?

[PitchouneN64ngc]

There is no approximative date, this can be tomorrow or in 3 years, nobody can tell you any date. It comes when it comes.

The beta testers selection is over since end of May ;)

[seangworld]

but im a senior member and have been a paying member since jan. 2002! :P

[Onimua]

but im a senior member and have been a paying member since jan. 2002! :P
You still needed to submit an application way back when they were asking for them. :)

Plus at this point I'd assume that testing is almost over too.

[Jose Amaral Rego]

When does Category 'Uncategorized' show, it is when a member enters some predetermined entries or does it show if you create your own or after someone else make a comment to your entry?.

[Michael2]

Looks like there may be a beta 5...

http://www.vbulletin-fans.com/blog.php?b=18

[Onimua]

Looks like there may be a beta 5...

http://www.vbulletin-fans.com/blog.php?b=18
No, he was talking about upgrading vBFans to beta 5; we've already had beta 5 for a few days now. :)

[raiderlax]

Hey Onimua how do you know this stuff?

are you one of the testers?

[Onimua]

Hey Onimua how do you know this stuff?

are you one of the testers?
Crystal ball. :p

Yes, I'm one of the testers. :)

[john2k]

There is no approximative date, this can be tomorrow or in 3 years, nobody can tell you any date. It comes when it comes.

My guess is that Jelsoft worries a bit about being trumped by their competitors prior to or on the release date. That's probably a big part of the reason for not having any sort of time-lines for us. Jelsoft could give us "no later than" dates instead of ETAs, but even that would be useful to their competition.

As long as Jelsoft doesn't take too long, all will be fine. But, they do need to also consider that some customers are only willing to wait so long before looking elsewhere.

Sooner or later some other company may enter the forum software market and revolutionize the industry again. Let's not forget, UBB was the original king of this type of linear forum design and was dethroned by vB...

[Michael2]

No, he was talking about upgrading vBFans to beta 5; we've already had beta 5 for a few days now. :)

Not everyone here knows that, that's why I posted it.

[seangworld]

vBulletin doesn't have any competition. Everything else out there is a piece of crap. Literally.

[summsel]

HELP!!!

I want to post a Blog, but i can´t find a button "create new blog".

Where can i find it?

Thanks for hints... :)
summsel

[Mixtoon]

HELP!!!

I want to post a Blog, but i can´t find a button "create new blog".

Where can i find it?

Thanks for hints... :)
summsel

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/blog_post.php?do=newblog


there is no "create new blog"

you only have to start blogging and writing!


you can see your blog by hitting this url:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/blog.php?u=23371


I hope this is useful!




~ mixtoon,

[Flexo]

Jelsoft could give us "no later than" dates instead of ETAs... which would be exactly the same thing.

[Michael2]

HELP!!!

I want to post a Blog, but i can´t find a button "create new blog".

Where can i find it?

Thanks for hints... :)
summsel

Are you a licensed registered member? I believe it's only available to those who are right now.

[Ba$im]

I would if they send to me it :D
I can be helpfull :p

[raiderlax]

We should all give vBulletin time with this addon product so that it is as good as vBulletin itself :)

[FBJunkie]

When 3.6.8 was released it was stated in the release notes that this version would be needed to be able to install the Blog. Is this still the case, or will there be more updates and bug fixes, perhaps version 3.6.9, that will need to first be upgraded to prior to installing the blog software? I ask because when 3.6.8 came out, rather than do all of the template and file edits, I went ahead and installed a fresh copy of 3.6.8 and reloaded all of my MODs. I hope that I don't have to do this again with a vBulletin upgrade release to coincide with the release of the Blog software.

[raiderlax]

When 3.6.8 was released it was stated in the release notes that this version would be needed to be able to install the Blog. Is this still the case, or will there be more updates and bug fixes, perhaps version 3.6.9, that will need to first be upgraded to prior to installing the blog software? I ask because when 3.6.8 came out, rather than do all of the template and file edits, I went ahead and installed a fresh copy of 3.6.8 and reloaded all of my MODs. I hope that I don't have to do this again with a vBulletin upgrade release to coincide with the release of the Blog software.


May I ask, when you did a fresh install, how did you go about re-storing your database? to keep all the post, etc...?

[FBJunkie]

My board is still in test mode; it's not public yet so everything was deleted before reinstalling the software.

[raiderlax]

So you did a full re-install with a new database?

[FBJunkie]

Yes.

[PitchouneN64ngc]

When 3.6.8 was released it was stated in the release notes that this version would be needed to be able to install the Blog. Is this still the case, or will there be more updates and bug fixes, perhaps version 3.6.9, that will need to first be upgraded to prior to installing the blog software? I ask because when 3.6.8 came out, rather than do all of the template and file edits, I went ahead and installed a fresh copy of 3.6.8 and reloaded all of my MODs. I hope that I don't have to do this again with a vBulletin upgrade release to coincide with the release of the Blog software.vB 3.6.8 will stay the minimum version required for Blog 1.0.x. This is necessary for adding hooks which are useful for the Blog (or a lot of parts won't work).

[beishe8]

I had a look on your forum and didn't notice any hype...
Register,then possibly you can see all threads.

[raiderlax]

vB 3.6.8 will stay the minimum version required for Blog 1.0.x. This is necessary for adding hooks which are useful for the Blog (or a lot of parts won't work).

So does this mean it's coming out soon, you must be one of the tester?

[PitchouneN64ngc]

I'm one of the testers, yes ;)

[---MAD---]

So does this mean it's coming out soon, you must be one of the tester?
Blog is on beta 5 atm, I am guessing RC is the next stage :).

[PitchouneN64ngc]

Blog is on beta 5 atm, I am guessing RC is the next stage :).Maybe yes, maybe not, if a lot of bugs are found, devs can release a Beta 6 ;)

[---MAD---]

Maybe yes, maybe not, if a lot of bugs are found, devs can release a Beta 6 ;)
Indeed :).

[john2k]

... which would be exactly the same thing.

Well, not quite exactly. For example, it could be that the release date may be no sooner than October 10th and no later than January 15th, with the actual ETA falling somewhere in between.

Simply knowing whether or not it will be available in 2007 at all would be helpful. Or even by mid-2008.


vBulletin doesn't have any competition. Everything else out there is a piece of crap. Literally.

I agree with you, although I am a bit biased as most of my experience is with vBulletin and I have a bunch of vB licenses.

vB wasn't always the top dog. The previous/original top dog (UBB) left open a window of opportunity to competitors when they failed to give what their customers needed in a reasonable amount of time. UBB did eventually release a version with a MySQL database backend, but by then it was too late. All the largest customers who had waited... and waited... and waited... eventually got tired of all the waiting and jumped ship to vB when it became available.

I suppose all that I'm really pointing out is that there is a big window of opportunity currently in the forum/community software market. I hope that vB fills the role of leader in the changing market as well, but if not - then all the riches go to the victor...

[Sychev_S]

Down to 2 confirmed bugs. Hoooray.
To beta testers: please stop posting bugs, I am tired of waiting :) lol j/k

[Michael2]

Well, not quite exactly. For example, it could be that the release date may be no sooner than October 10th and no later than January 15th, with the actual ETA falling somewhere in between.

Simply knowing whether or not it will be available in 2007 at all would be helpful. Or even by mid-2008.


Yeah, it is the same thing. What happens when January 15th rolls around and it's still not out? People would start in with the "You promised us it would be out by now."

Don't get me wrong, I do wish there were better communication. I think that would help eliminate a lot of the frustration people have with waiting.

There are 2 confirmed bugs left and it's in its 5th beta. Common sense says it's not going to be much longer, certainly not until mid-2008.

[Gladius]

FFS... ETA: WHEN IT'S DONE! Jelsoft should pin that in a visible place so that all this whining and posts upon posts with "is it out yet?", "when will it be out?", "is there a date?", "why don't you give us a date", "I like bananas" can stop already. Geez.

[PitchouneN64ngc]

For those who waiting for a long time, vBulletin Blog is in RC1 stage for now, it will come soon, just be patient ;)

[seangworld]

does anyone else click on the links in other people's sigs here? that's the most interesting part of this entire thread. :/

[jeffinj]

For those who waiting for a long time, vBulletin Blog is in RC1 stage for now, it will come soon, just be patient ;)

:D:D:D

[---MAD---]

For those who waiting for a long time, vBulletin Blog is in RC1 stage for now, it will come soon, just be patient ;)
Thats great to hear its in RC now :).

[Dream]

Is RC "Ready for Customers"?

:D

j/k don't kill me

[Mazinger]

Is RC "Ready for Customers"?

:D

j/k don't kill me
No, it's "Release Cancelled". :p

[Ranger375]

No, it's "Release Cancelled". :p

LMAO, you're going to make them riot :D

[coloradok5]

Not sure if this has been covered, will there be categories on the main blog page? If my site has lets say 10 topics and I have to search 50,000 blogs in one category that would relly suck. :eek::D

[PitchouneN64ngc]

Not sure if this has been covered, will there be categories on the main blog page? If my site has lets say 10 topics and I have to search 50,000 blogs in one category that would relly suck. :eek::D
You can create categories for your own blog, and you can post in one or more categories at the same time ;)

[RetroDreams]

FFS... ETA: WHEN IT'S DONE! Jelsoft should pin that in a visible place so that all this whining and posts upon posts with "is it out yet?", "when will it be out?", "is there a date?", "why don't you give us a date", "I like bananas" can stop already. Geez.
Trust me, I'm sure the vB folks would much rather prefer folks doing that to not hearing anything but... *crickets*

Tells them they're developing another product that folks are dying to get their hands on. The day people stop talking about your product and begging for new ones is the day they've moved onto another application or platform.

[ang2el]

I don't mind Jelfost taking time but the product must must must be superior than available commercially, I would like to see vblog similar to wordpress, blogpost

[Ranger375]

have you seen v.1 of wordpress by chance? This is only the first release.

[Flexo]

Yeah well, but this first release has to compete with what is out there right now.

[Sychev_S]

Yeah well, but this first release has to compete with what is out there right now.
Please keep in mind that vblogs is an add on to vbulletin and not a stand alone product.