View Full Version : vBulletin Project Tools Release Discussion
Mike Sullivan
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 10:53am
This thread is for discussing the release of vBulletin Project Tools.
Please use this thread to talk about things you like or installation experiences etc., but please do not use this thread to post troubleshooting queries or bug reports. These threads tend to grow very large and bug reports etc. tend to become lost and will not get attention from the support or development teams.
Report any bugs you find here (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/project.php?projectid=1).
Floris
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 10:56am
And thank you to all the beta testers!
Onimua
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 10:57am
Very nice! Glad to see the price is very well rounded. :D
Downloading and upgrading now. :)
Andy Huang
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 11:08am
Congrats on release, thanks to all beta testers for helping on sorting out the issues :)
Joe Gronlund
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 11:10am
Congrats on the release, very reasonable pricing too.. :)
Mazinger
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 11:12am
Great news! The price is very good too. :D
Well, done vBulletin...
* Going to play with it somewhere :cool:
PitchouneN64ngc
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 11:24am
Thanks for update, downloaded and update a little later ;)
King Kovifor
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 11:34am
Nice. Now to finish my software to buy. :D LOL. Just wish it had the regular read marking.
Floris
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 11:36am
I am curious how the Project Tools looks on your site, so when you got your copy and got it running feel free to let me know :)
I run it my copy on talkbanners.com/project.php and vbulletin-fans.com/project.php
Reeve of Shinra
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 11:39am
i can't wait to get home and try this out :)
I have a question about the new user agreement, specifically:
Project Tools is licensed to you solely for use in connection with vBulletin, and may not be integrated into any third party software application.
I know this is the 'letter' of the rule but can you clarify the intent?
Like I would assume that its a no-no to buy project tools and integrate it with PHPBB.
What if it were integrated in some fashion with a portal that our vbulletin forum is already integrated with? Or if modifications were done to help integrate it with a members area script we are running?
Does integrate it with third party software cover commerical applications or does it extend to the modifications released on vbulletin.org?
Thanks,
- John
Mazinger
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 11:40am
I don't know much about the last beta testing.
I think beta testers downloaded/installed it on their websites.
Now, do they have to buy a license or remove it?
Floris
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 11:45am
I know this is the 'letter' of the rule but can you clarify the intent? It means it's an addon only for vBulletin forum software, not for third party software. You can't use it to integrate with something else and then distribute or sell or share it.
I know this is the 'letter' of the rule but can you clarify the intent? You're free to do this on your own web site yes. Just like it is ok to use the button from the vbulletin forum also on your main site to get a more unified look and feel. In other words, customization for personal use.
I don't know much about the last beta testing.
I think beta testers downloaded/installed it on their websites.
Now, do they have to buy a license or remove it?
The beta testers got a license to beta test with, this license expires 12 months later.
|Norman|
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 11:53am
Nice!
Mazinger
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 12:09pm
sorry.. please delete ... wrong message :o
chris1979
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 12:28pm
Just to check - this isn't the enhanced member profiles / blogs stuff that you mentioned before is it? Is that separate?
Onimua
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 12:29pm
No, this is a separate product. You're talking about the Blog add-on. :)
Reeve of Shinra
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 12:30pm
Yes the blog / social networking is another product which will be released shortly tot the merriment of all man kind.
chris1979
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 12:33pm
Oh, good. That's the one I was looking out for.
Do you know when that one will be?
Reeve of Shinra
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 12:34pm
No, but I will consult a psychic later for omens that we should be watching out for.
chris1979
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 12:38pm
Psychics or people who work for vBulletin. Either is good.
King Kovifor
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 12:44pm
I am curious how the Project Tools looks on your site, so when you got your copy and got it running feel free to let me know :)
I run it my copy on talkbanners.com/project.php and vbulletin-fans.com/project.php
Who were you talking to?
Floris
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 12:45pm
You = everybody who buys a license and installs it on a public site and doesn't mind sharing their project.php url
simsim
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 12:50pm
50$? Are Jelsoft people socialists? :D
Thank you so much for your great efforts! I'm definitely a buyer somewhere in the near future.
Long live vBulletin!
King Kovifor
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 12:53pm
You = everybody who buys a license and installs it on a public site and doesn't mind sharing their project.php url
LOL. Got it. Right now I need to finish the Mac OS X software, build the site, integrate vBulletin (while buying it), and the PT. So it'll be forever. Especially since I suck at designing web sites.
Mazinger
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 1:26pm
Why was this thread called 'vBulletin Project Tools Release Discussion' instead of 'vBulletin Project Tools 1.0.0 Release Discussion'?
Wayne Luke
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 1:31pm
Why was this thread called 'vBulletin Project Tools Release Discussion' instead of 'vBulletin Project Tools 1.0.0 Release Discussion'?
We had to give you something to comment about.
Mazinger
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 1:34pm
We had to give you something to comment about.
haha, they are alot now. ;)
DelphiVillage
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 1:58pm
hi folks,
Nice and verry reasonable price to but what about importing from other systems ? i have another bugtracker but i do prefer software from the original creators of vBulletin after all they know there own products the best.I thought asking first before buying a licence and move all my stuff over so is there something like "ImPeX" but for the project tools ? if yes you got my $50 coming your way :D
Mr_Bob
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 1:59pm
Great to see Project Tools released, this will come in very handy in monitoring what my staff is doing in terms of the information they are supposedly writing as well as a great feedback system, among many other things. I'm holding off my purchase until my download access expires as to keep my renewal dates the same.
My only comment would be, for visitors looking to purchase Vbulletin, Project Tools is rather hidden. If I were not a member of this community, I would not even know such an add-on existed unless I were to click the features link and see a link to Vbulletin Project Tools and wonder. I would suggest altering the Vbulletin website a bit, even if it is as simple as adding a section titled "add-on products". Would be much more user-friendly, and generate more sales ;).
Edit: Saw the link on the main page, hehe. Of course, it's rather random to see, I still like my idea :).
Floris
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 2:00pm
hi folks,
Nice and verry reasonable price to but what about importing from other systems ? i have another bugtracker but i do prefer software from the original creators of vBulletin after all they know there own products the best.I thought asking first before buying a licence and move all my stuff over so is there something like "ImPeX" but for the project tools ? if yes you got my $50 coming your way :D
I have no official information at this point about the impex software supporting third party data. I will ask our dev-staff although I think version 1.82 currently does not support third party software yet for the project tools.
Great to see Project Tools released, this will come in very handy in monitoring what my staff is doing in terms of the information they are supposedly writing as well as a great feedback system, among many other things. I'm holding off my purchase until my download access expires as to keep my renewal dates the same.
My only comment would be, for visitors looking to purchase Vbulletin, Project Tools is rather hidden. If I were not a member of this community, I would not even know such an add-on existed unless I were to click the features link and see a link to Vbulletin Project Tools and wonder. I would suggest altering the Vbulletin website a bit, even if it is as simple as adding a section titled "add-on products". Would be much more user-friendly, and generate more sales ;).
Edit: Saw the link on the main page, hehe. Of course, it's rather random to see, I still like my idea :).
As with every other service the additional product is listed on the second page as it is tied to a license and requires a license. I will escalate your feedback and that from others to our developers for review and see if we can improve the ease-of-use element for the future.
the geek
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 2:17pm
Congrats Mike, the vB team and the testers. Its a great product at a very reasonable price :)
Princeton
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 2:19pm
Congrats to everyone - A Job Well Done!
kuyenmotdivad
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 2:32pm
Now the Project Tool is out how long do you think it will be till the Blog is finished?
simsim
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 2:40pm
Someone should have asked: when the next 1.x.y release is coming out? :rolleyes:
TECK
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 2:41pm
Do you guys plan to offer a bundle price for blog and project tools?
Ohiosweetheart
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 2:46pm
*eagerly awaiting blog release*
Fusion
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 3:09pm
Great news, people. :)
MRGTB
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 3:35pm
Ha,ha, been lookng all over my Members Area and cannot find this anywhere for sale.
It's not the 1st April is it?
Onimua
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 3:38pm
Ha,ha, been lookng all over my Members Area and cannot find this anywhere for sale.
It's not the 1st April is it?
When you go the the Member's Area, next to the license you want to attach Project Tools to, and then click Upgrade/Renew. You'll see it at the bottom of the list on the next page.
MRGTB
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 3:45pm
thanks, done
ayoko555
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 3:46pm
Is there a demo??
Onimua
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 3:48pm
Is there a demo??
You can test stuff here: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/project.php?projectid=2
Front page of it: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/project.php
I don't know if it's on the Admin Demo yet though...
Reeve of Shinra
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 4:03pm
So... is the project tools an 'owned license' with a yearly renewal fee for members area updates?
So like what happens id you have a leased license and buy project tools. The leased license could expire but then so would 'owned' project tools? =p
Colin F
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 4:08pm
You can't directly compare the PT license to a vB license, as the PT license belongs to a vBulletin license. Once you've ordered a PT license you can use it as long as you're allowed to use that vB license.
simsim
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 4:09pm
So... is the project tools an 'owned license' with a yearly renewal fee for members area updates?
So like what happens id you have a leased license and buy project tools. The leased license could expire but then so would 'owned' project tools? =p
Interesting point. The concept of a leased license is much more viable for a project management tool than for a bulletin board, as many projects usually have specific deadlines & lifetime.
Jose Amaral Rego
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 4:28pm
I seem to be blind at the moment, but where is the link to purchase Project Tools 1.0.0. I do not see any link in members area or pricing & ordering side?
It is release right, or is it another update on original announcement.
Floris
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 4:30pm
You can go into the members area and click on New Purchases on the bottom of the listed licenses, if your license is eligible for a PT purchase it will be listed there as an option.
PitchouneN64ngc
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 4:41pm
About renewing Project Tools...
As any user in the old Private Beta Test, I've the licence for 1 year until end May. But my vBulletin owned licence expires in Oct 29' 07.
When I'll renew my vBulletin licence, Project Tools will continue with the current expiry date or it will take the expiry date of the vBulletin licence after renew?
Jose Amaral Rego
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 4:44pm
What do I need to become 'eligible'? I have a few licenses and one was updated.. I just found it.. It was located under Upgrade/Renew and or by clicking on the [Countinue] button from Renewals / New Purchases
I thought I had to do cartwheels to get the link. :)
Thanks.
bmc
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 4:47pm
Congratulations to the entire vBulletin Team as well as all of the beta testers that I was able to work with - it was a pleasure and great fun! PT is very reasonably priced. :)
Onimua
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 4:49pm
About renewing Project Tools...
As any user in the old Private Beta Test, I've the licence for 1 year until end May. But my vBulletin owned licence expires in Oct 29' 07.
When I'll renew my vBulletin licence, Project Tools will continue with the current expiry date or it will take the expiry date of the vBulletin licence after renew?
Considering you have an owned vBulletin license, I would assume you'd be allowed to run Project Tools anyway. I think PT's expiration is mainly dependent on your vBulletin's active status.
Antivirus
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 5:36pm
woot! nice job jelsoft :)
theologyonline
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 5:45pm
I have a new project coming up and I was wondering if Project Tools would work for me.
I need to have a standardized set of tasks for every project and a project would be essentially one real estate property i.e.
PROJECT: 429 Johnson Street
Tasks...
- Remove toxic Chemicals
- Change locks
- Check water heater
- Turn off furnace
- Mow lawn
- Etc. (maybe three dozen or so tasks in each project)
I would like these tasks to be automatically associated with every project that is created.
Every project would have the same list of tasks but be assigned to a specific individual for completion. The individual would login and ONLY see the projects and they would fill in their progress etc.
Would Project Tools be a good choice for my needs? Since I am already familiar with vBulletin it would be great if Project Tools could fit my needs.
PitchouneN64ngc
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 6:29pm
Considering you have an owned vBulletin license, I would assume you'd be allowed to run Project Tools anyway. I think PT's expiration is mainly dependent on your vBulletin's active status.
I will see that end of October ;)
Onimua
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 6:53pm
I will see that end of October ;)
It's simple logic. You can't run vBulletin, you can't run Project Tools. :p
Dream
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 7:07pm
Nice good job all.
50 bucks huh... not sure if my members would use this... now if it was 30 bucks... I'll have to think about it.
PitchouneN64ngc
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 7:45pm
It's simple logic. You can't run vBulletin, you can't run Project Tools. :pSo, we have more than 1 year for Project Tools active licence (not needed to renew Project Tools when I renew vBulletin the next time) ? ;) Cool :D
DelphiVillage
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 7:51pm
I have no official information at this point about the impex software supporting third party data. I will ask our dev-staff although I think version 1.82 currently does not support third party software yet for the project tools.
I would be more then happy to provide a database dump from vS-BugTracker
/me pokes Jerry
DavidW
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 10:09pm
Floris,
Just purchased a license and installed on boostboards.com/project.php
Also have set it up as child forum type setup on the FORUMHOME.
Please let me know how I can make it more related to the niche of my forum. Like what else would I have to setup to show the progress of a Turbo/Supercharger build on a vehicle?
Your advice or anybody elses will be GREATLY appreciated. :)
MRGTB
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 10:34pm
Just purchased this product and installed it, nice product and a nice price.
But I have noticed something though that every other setting has in vBulletin by default, that's missing from this to new product to finish it off.
There are no "HELP" icons to explain each setting does, like the image below shows.
Onimua
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 10:36pm
Just purchased this product and installed it, nice product and a nice price.
But I have noticed something though that every other setting has in vBulletin has thats missing from this to new product to finish it off.
There are no "HELP" icons to explain each setting does, like the image below shows.
This was done on purpose. The idea was to ONLY have the help icon on things that would be thought of as needing clarification. If you look through the Project Tools, you'll note that most of the titles are self-explanatory. :) If you do need clarification or further explanation about something, you could always post in the forums.
MRGTB
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 10:38pm
still sooner see this as icons though that explain the settings from my own board, as thats the way every other setting works in vbulletin. I don't want to have to keep refering to the manual here to now what they do, thanks
Lets keep things as they already are in vbulletin eh
simsim
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 10:39pm
I wonder if Project Tools has a mechanism to inherit or adopt vBulletin's Plug-in & Product system so that modifications & add-ons can be developed for it.
Onimua
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 10:46pm
still sooner see this as icons though that explain the settings from my own board, as thats the way every other setting works in vbulletin. I don't want to have to keep refering to the manual here to now what they do, thanks
Lets keep things as they already are in vbulletin eh
It was brought up before. :p Thing is, the help icon should only be used when it's actually helpful, not redundant as it is in vBulletin. ;)
I wonder if Project Tools has a mechanism to inherit or adopt vBulletin's Plug-in & Product system so that modifications & add-ons can be developed for it.
Project Tools does have hooks to allow for plugins like vBulletin does if that's what you mean.
simsim
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 10:51pm
Project Tools does have hooks to allow for plugins like vBulletin does if that's what you mean.
Yes that what I mean. Being it an add-on itself, I was wondering how developing add-ons for it would be handled. Looks pretty straightforward, doesn't it?
MRGTB
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 10:53pm
Listen are you staff here or what, becuase your talking like you are. If you are using another member name. Why change things now, all because you don't think it's important matters not, other like me think it is to keep things the same way all the other settings are and work.
The last thing I want to do is come here to read about a setting in this product that could displayed on my own board via the little help icon.
Every other setting uses this method. So why start changing things around now just becuase YOU think it doesn't matter. How hard is it, to just put them back there in the next release.
and keep things the same way as they are in other settings, why start messing around leaving things out, and being different now. You might not be bothered about this, doesn't mean other arn't. Like me for example.
Onimua
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 10:53pm
Yes that what I mean. Being it an add-on itself, I was wondering how developing add-ons for it would be handled. Looks pretty straightforward, doesn't it?
It's the same process as making add-ons for vBulletin. :)
Listen are you staff here or what, becuase your talking like you are. If you are using another member name. Why change things now, all because you don't think it's important matters not, other like me think it is to keep things the same way all the other settings are and work.
The last thing I want to do is come here to read about a setting in this product that could displayed on my own board via the little help help icon.
Every other setting uses this method. So why start changing things around now just becuase YOU think it doesn't matter. How hard is it, to just put them back there in the next release.
and keep things the same way as they are in other settings, why start ebing different now. You might not be bothered about this, doesn't mean other arn't. Like me for example.
I was part of the private beta group, and much of the issues people are bring up now have been brought up in the private forums, and there has been discussion about it before. I'm not say I think it matters or not, but rather saying what was discussed in the private beta forums beforehand.
Dream
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 11:00pm
ok I bought it, because I like new toys, but maybe I made a mistake. :(
are users able to create new projects?
MRGTB
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 11:03pm
Well all I can say is this, I want them HELP icons in this product for reference on the settings, like all the other settings show, and if there not going to be added because the BETA testers say so. Just give me a refund back for this product ASAP.
Because to me, it's unfinished
Dream
Mon 2nd Jul '07, 11:20pm
ok this is bad, users can't create their own projects. I just threw 50 bucks away.
I'm really mad at me right now for not asking this first.
Milado
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 12:43am
I wonder if Project Tools has a mechanism to inherit or adopt vBulletin's Plug-in & Product system so that modifications & add-ons can be developed for it.
I had created the first hack for PT a while ago.
See it here http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=150082
It doesn't differ from creating of any another hack.
Wayne Luke
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 2:04am
Well all I can say is this, I want them HELP icons in this product for reference on the settings, like all the other settings show, and if there not going to be added because the BETA testers say so. Just give me a refund back for this product ASAP.
Because to me, it's unfinished
We actually feel that the inline help in the main vBulletin product was over done and most of it is just redundant text that is already in the option description or the option was already clarified that it really didn't need the help.
In Project Tools, the developers tried to draw a finer line so that the inline help was significant and not overbearing and difficult to maintain like it is in vBulletin. As it is, its like writing two manuals for vBulletin every time there is a release.
If you need something clarified, just ask and if we find that more inline help is needed then we will add it in the future.
captainslater
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 2:35am
I'm looking forward for the first costumer project's as I'm curious what else is possible with this system than 'simple bug tracking'.
zhaoke
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 5:56am
Congrats on the VB team for making such a superb product.
Talena
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 7:30am
I just have to say that I am very disappointed. vBulletin is not a cheap program. There are "OK" free alternatives. I chose vB because I like the control and the massive db of FREE mods. I don't run my forum for profit. It doesn't even pay for itself with member donations. I was excited when vB announced it would be doing it's own mods. Now I fear that this will just be a way that vb stops adding features to the already steep pricetag of the software (except just enough to make us keep paying to renew our license) while they charge first a fee, then a renewal fee for mods they develop. I obviously will not be purchasing vb.com produced mods. ESPECIALLY with the nice little "renewal" insult added to the injury.
Lizard King
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 7:48am
I just have to say that I am very disappointed. vBulletin is not a cheap program. There are "OK" free alternatives. I chose vB because I like the control and the massive db of FREE mods. I don't run my forum for profit. It doesn't even pay for itself with member donations. I was excited when vB announced it would be doing it's own mods. Now I fear that this will just be a way that vb stops adding features to the already steep pricetag of the software (except just enough to make us keep paying to renew our license) while they charge first a fee, then a renewal fee for mods they develop. I obviously will not be purchasing vb.com produced mods. ESPECIALLY with the nice little "renewal" insult added to the injury.
Project Tools or vBlog are never considered as default vBulletin software and releasing these addons never mean that vBulletin will stop developing main forum software. These are addons which you may purchase if you really find them usefull for your site. If you find them expensive and not usefull for your site don't buy. But don't come here and blame people with funny arguements.
ThorstenA
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 8:00am
Bought Project Tools and they are great to customize. Looking forward to put them life!
Floris
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 10:38am
Lizard, users are free to express their mind about our products and services and their pricing, as long as it comes with reasonable arguments.
Talena, you dont' have to worry about the main forum software not being developed any more, this will continue and there are no plans to stop adding features to it. The project tools and blogs are not features, these are too significant of a change to the system and more an additional section to the site that they're being offered at a reasonable and competitive price separate from the forum price. For example, the 'multi quote' is not reasonable to add as a paid official product and is made part of the core forum software.
ctrl-alt-del
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 11:54am
This add-on seems like I may be able to use it for something I have in mind. I have a few inquiries though. What is the advantage of this over Bugzilla aside from vB integration? I know it's version 1.0.0 so it may be too much to ask comparing it to a product that is already at version 3.x. Also, is it possible to create customized forms for project/bug entry?
Finally, the vBulletin team is awesome!! Keep it up!
More questions:
Can you track time spent? (ie. add 30 minutes for a task entry)
Can you create reports based on various parameters such as reporter, assignee, time spent?
nymyth
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 1:59pm
much props....looks great
wii
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 4:33pm
Great price, I hope the blog would be the same price.
Ba$im
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 9:28pm
hello where i can find it?
its not in member cp
DavidW
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 10:14pm
hello where i can find it?
its not in member cp
Upgrade/Renew Under your members area.
---MAD---
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 10:32pm
We had to give you something to comment about.
Hahaha. I love the humour the staff carry with them whilst on the job ;).
Whats everyone using PT for btw? Interesting to see what people are using it for :).
Reeve of Shinra
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 11:03pm
Whats everyone using PT for btw? Interesting to see what people are using it for .
I'd love to hear what others are using it for... I plan on using it to organize our sites development.
Onimua
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 11:41pm
I'd love to hear what others are using it for... I plan on using it to organize our sites development.
I'm doing that right now, actually. I set myself come tasks, while selected people are testing the site/design and then reporting back with bugs ad suggestions, while a few submit suggestions. :D
hornstar6969
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 11:44pm
I'm thinking of getting it to organise all my sites development.
Question can I make projects only show to certain usergroups or users?
Onimua
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 11:54pm
I'm thinking of getting it to organise all my sites development.
Question can I make projects only show to certain usergroups or users?
Yep. I have it set up so only staff and members of a particular usergroup can view/post in PT.
Dream
Tue 3rd Jul '07, 11:58pm
Unfortunately users can't create/manage their own projects, set project leaders and set % of the project completed like this mod (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?threadid=150812).
Maybe in a future version.
Wayne Luke
Wed 4th Jul '07, 1:03am
I'd love to hear what others are using it for... I plan on using it to organize our sites development.
I am using it for a couple of landscaping projects at my house. Will probably use it for a few other projects around the house as well.
Wayne Luke
Wed 4th Jul '07, 1:04am
Unfortunately users can't create/manage their own projects, set project leaders and set % of the project completed like this mod (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?threadid=150812).
Maybe in a future version.
I don't think that it was ever a design goal to have users create and manage their own projects.
Ba$im
Wed 4th Jul '07, 5:58am
Upgrade/Renew Under your members area.
thanks
what language availble to TP at this moment?
thanks in advance
PitchouneN64ngc
Wed 4th Jul '07, 7:40am
I've translated it in French, but don't know if I must to post it in the same location as vBulletin language files or there is a new forum especially for PT :)
Floris
Wed 4th Jul '07, 8:26am
Yes, you can submit it to the download submission forum, our staff will then review it and move it to the public forums for you.
PitchouneN64ngc
Wed 4th Jul '07, 9:18am
Yes, you can submit it to the download submission forum, our staff will then review it and move it to the public forums for you.
Ok, I'll do that, and hoping it will be available soon (I've submitted the French language file #13 for vBulletin the last June 9th, and it's not publicly available yet).
Floris
Wed 4th Jul '07, 9:46am
We have been very busy ;) (see announcement forum) and give priority to support tickets. Hopefully more staff will soon process a few of the pending submissions.
PitchouneN64ngc
Wed 4th Jul '07, 9:52am
I saw that ;)
ctrl-alt-del
Wed 4th Jul '07, 10:46am
This add-on seems like I may be able to use it for something I have in mind. I have a few inquiries though. What is the advantage of this over Bugzilla aside from vB integration? I know it's version 1.0.0 so it may be too much to ask comparing it to a product that is already at version 3.x. Also, is it possible to create customized forms for project/bug entry?
More questions:
Can you track time spent? (ie. add 30 minutes for a task entry)
Can you create reports based on various parameters such as reporter, assignee, time spent?
Anyone from the vB team care to take a crack at my questions?
Mike Sullivan
Wed 4th Jul '07, 10:56am
This add-on seems like I may be able to use it for something I have in mind. I have a few inquiries though. What is the advantage of this over Bugzilla aside from vB integration? I know it's version 1.0.0 so it may be too much to ask comparing it to a product that is already at version 3.x. Also, is it possible to create customized forms for project/bug entry?
Finally, the vBulletin team is awesome!! Keep it up!
More questions:
Can you track time spent? (ie. add 30 minutes for a task entry)
Can you create reports based on various parameters such as reporter, assignee, time spent?
While I am somewhat familiar with Bugzilla, I don't know the interworkings of it enough to comment on a direct comparison.
Fields are not customizable for issue entries, though you can disable some by virtue of not using them (eg, categories). Some normally optional fields can be made required.
No time tracking.
Reports are in, including grouping (eg, by assigned user). Just do a search and you'll have the option to save it as a report, which becomes available from the main page.
ragtek
Wed 4th Jul '07, 10:58am
time tracking would be great
Carnage-
Thu 5th Jul '07, 9:57am
cant see this being of much use on my forums atm - when you ar ethe sole dev on a project a notepad by the computer functions much better as a todo list :p however i would like to know if/when an admin demo will be avaliable as its something i'd consider for future project.
I'm also interested in the suggestion that this is tied to a single liscense... obviously if you only have 1 PT liscense you can only install it on one board at a time, but would it have to be installed on the same board its attached to or could you move it between several forums based on need?
Floris
Thu 5th Jul '07, 10:54am
An admin demo will be made available when we have a bit more time to update that system.
For any feature suggestions feel free to post them in the PT suggestion forum :)
Wayne Luke
Thu 5th Jul '07, 12:33pm
I'm also interested in the suggestion that this is tied to a single liscense... obviously if you only have 1 PT liscense you can only install it on one board at a time, but would it have to be installed on the same board its attached to or could you move it between several forums based on need?
It must be installed on the vBulletin license it is attached to.
I, Brian
Thu 5th Jul '07, 2:42pm
It would be nice to explain what Project Tools and how it enhances forums - I think all I've seen so far is that it helps Prject Management. And?
Come on - please sell us the benefits and uses of the project, because at present it's something of an unexplained quantity. :)
Wayne Luke
Thu 5th Jul '07, 2:43pm
Its a project management tool. It enhances websites by allowing the owners to manage multiple projects on their sites.
I, Brian
Thu 5th Jul '07, 6:25pm
Maybe I sound daft, but could we see further explanation of what it actually provides and what it covers? "Project management tool" sounds like a very vague concept. Any black and white feature benefit lists, please?
Wayne Luke
Thu 5th Jul '07, 6:35pm
http://www.vbulletin.com/features_project.php
I, Brian
Fri 6th Jul '07, 5:02am
I must be daft - I'm having difficulty understanding what Project Tools offers over simply creating a couple of boards to cover specific projects?
I guess I'm just not the target market, I suppose. :)
Floris
Fri 6th Jul '07, 9:40am
The project tools allows you to follow a timeline and assign issues to others, and have them accept issues, or flag them as completed, or rejected. It generates better
means for the project leader to oversee what's going on and for participants to follow what their specific tasks are. Whereas a thread, you have to keep an eye on to see if there's an update and read the content to figure out if someone is working on it or not, or has completed the task.
I use the project tools as "staff todo list" and on one site as "site feedback" and on another as "suggestion box" - keeping things organized and growing a history of changes, etc.
One can change the projects to whatever they want, even the button text like 'post bug' can be 'report an issue with our site'.
It's also a great tool for companies to have as bug report tool, and developer tasks, etc.
It has great potential, more then a thread. Surely there are users who can use this and surely there are users who don't.
ctrl-alt-del
Fri 6th Jul '07, 11:33am
Is it possible to create a task entry form from an anonymous user?
To elaborate a bit further, I want users to be able to submit bugs/tasks without actually being a member of the forums. As an example, someone could submit a change request with a customized form. Once submitted, this creates a task and processed to the proper group.
MJM
Fri 6th Jul '07, 11:49am
I'm having difficulty understanding what Project Tools offers over simply creating a couple of boards to cover specific projects?
The main disadvantage I see is that the Project Tools does not integrate well with the content management functionalities present in the forums.
If you want to have a distinctively separate place to deal with certain issues than this addon has uses.
But the first version in my opinion appears to be like a stripped down/lite version of what I am accustomed with at the forums. Obviously it should improve over time.
Meanwhile 'almost' everything, plus other things can be accomplished using the forums system.
I question why the extra 'bells and whistles' this addon provides were not just added to the existing forum functionalities - and then we wouldn't have lost some key management functions.
I will speculate that one reason is that addons like this have the potential for generating more revenue, more so than providing optional features and functionalities as part of the existing software.
But then ... I'm not a coder.
In a true sense, at the moment the Project Tools is an accessory, and fortunately not a neccessity ... or I'd be crying.
TBolley
Fri 6th Jul '07, 12:56pm
Support Project Tools attachemnts =? dont see any option for it
Floris
Fri 6th Jul '07, 1:06pm
Yes, it supports attachments.
jesusdlg
Sun 8th Jul '07, 11:42am
Hello everybody,
Can I use the project tool per forum?
Let me explain, I want to integrate this add on on a specific private category, so I can have on the same forums my public forums and 2 or 3 private forums with this add on running to get my projects with my team up to date.
Thanks in advance it looks like a great feature!
Floris
Sun 8th Jul '07, 11:50am
You can tell which projects you wish to show below a real forum (like a category)
So yes, you can create a category and then tell the projects to be listed below them.
ragtek
Sun 8th Jul '07, 1:41pm
grr
i want the project tools too :(
have to wait until it is in germany also available
Kaitlyn2004
Sun 8th Jul '07, 2:19pm
So it seems Project Tools is geared towards a development team? What if there is only a single developer, and random customers are the ones to submit bug reports/feature requests/etc?
Onimua
Sun 8th Jul '07, 3:44pm
So it seems Project Tools is geared towards a development team? What if there is only a single developer, and random customers are the ones to submit bug reports/feature requests/etc?
Not really; I use it on my site and I am the only developer working on the next version of the site. I do, however, have select users testing the site as it is developed and submit bugs and/or feature requests.
PT is flexible enough to accommodate a few developers or just one working on any given project.
Cobra SA
Mon 9th Jul '07, 8:43am
Hello,
I have a question please:
Is the bug tracker forum included in Project Tools?
peterska2
Mon 9th Jul '07, 9:25am
The system that we are using on this site for bug reporting is Project Tools, including the display of these in the forums listing.
ctrl-alt-del
Mon 9th Jul '07, 1:08pm
Is it possible to create a task entry form from an anonymous user?
To elaborate a bit further, I want users to be able to submit bugs/tasks without actually being a member of the forums. As an example, someone could submit a change request with a customized form. Once submitted, this creates a task and processed to the proper group.
vB team?
Mike Sullivan
Mon 9th Jul '07, 1:09pm
Yes, you can configure permissions to allow unregistered users to submit issues/post replies.
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