Does Winamp.com use vBulletin?

[Hexify]

Just wondering, since the new design the forum integration with their new layout is super. From the front end of it, it looks basically like vb, just wondering if in fact it actually was...

[Quillz]

I think they do use vBulletin, although I'm not sure if it's the latest version or not.

[ManagerJosh]

Yes. They are using the classic 2.x generation :)

[Hexify]

Thanks for the replies. So, is that version easier to customize/integrate? Wouldn't this version have numerous security flaws as well?

[Quillz]

Thanks for the replies. So, is that version easier to customize/integrate? Wouldn't this version have numerous security flaws as well?
No, it's not really any easier to use, but many large boards simply don't have the time or expense to upgrade.

[simsim]

No, it's not really any easier to use, but many large boards simply don't have the time or expense to upgrade.
Lazy webmasters. That's it.

[Dilly]

Lazy webmasters. That's it.
Uh, no. There are a number of reasons for it.

[simsim]

Which are?

[JakeS]

Lazy webmasters. That's it.When they upgrade its got to be a public forum and this being from 2.x it could cause errors and errors is the last thing they want, not only that they have to also re-theme it and then also re-mod it, that's a lot of work for a large forum and also would annoy the users.

[Quillz]

Which are?
Try running a board that has millions of threads, posts and members and try merely upgrading. Oh, and let's forget that all of these boards probably have a custom style and/or hacks. Yup, upgrading will be no problem whatsoever.

[simsim]

When they upgrade its got to be a public forum and this being from 2.x it could cause errors and errors is the last thing they want, not only that they have to also re-theme it and then also re-mod it, that's a lot of work for a large forum and also would annoy the users.
It's ABC of webmaster administration to do major site changes locally on development server(s), then move everything up to production server(s) that run the live site. The forum version they're running is more than 4 years old. Nothing IMHO justifies such a delay for a popular forum.

[simsim]

Try running a board that has millions of threads, posts and members and try merely upgrading. Oh, and let's forget that all of these boards probably have a custom style and/or hacks. Yup, upgrading will be no problem whatsoever.
I agree with you on all what you've mentioned, but isn't that all is just the job of a webmaster? Many large forums that outnumber Winamp's forum member & post counts had upgraded even to the latest 3.6 branch.

I even don't think WF is that much customized so that upgrading becomes an issue. The forum itself is almost plain-vanilla vBulletin.

[JakeS]

Simsimy, if you was on a forum and they was offline for like 12 hours and its a pretty popular forum, and if you were to visit it say 24-7 those 12 hour would make you want to find another forum thus leave that one.

[Dilly]

Which are?You obviously have never run a large website.

There are things that are more important to the day to day running of the site than upgrading to the newest piece of software out.

Patching and security is different, but so long as the software you are running is stable, it can take a lower priority.

[WurkAnimal]

I've been a member over there for a bit of time now, great community.

&.. nice skin

[RedTyger]

Which are?

If it works, don't fix it. Usually.

[JakeS]

If it works, don't fix it. Usually.If i was to get a brand new PC I would take it apart and add/remove something LOL.

[Andrew111888]

If I recall correctly I believe Kier has said there are communities that want to upgrade but can't for a variety of reasons out of their control.

[Mazinger]

If I recall correctly I believe Kier has said there are communities that want to upgrade but can't for a variety of reasons out of their control.
Yeah. I remember Kier recommending vb 2.x for large communities of companies.

[Dilly]

Yeah the datastore setup of vb3 is not feasible for some sites with a large number of forums.

[simsim]

There are things that are more important to the day to day running of the site than upgrading to the newest piece of software out.

Patching and security is different, but so long as the software you are running is stable, it can take a lower priority.
Upgrading is not a day to day task. Major upgrades are usually planned & scheduled semi-annually or anually, but here it has been almost 4 years.


If it works, don't fix it. Usually.
What about dedication towards users? Don't they deserve better forum features & experiences?


If I recall correctly I believe Kier has said there are communities that want to upgrade but can't for a variety of reasons out of their control.


Yeah. I remember Kier recommending vb 2.x for large communities of companies.


Yeah the datastore setup of vb3 is not feasible for some sites with a large number of forums.
Come on all you guys!

forums.winamp.com stats:
Registered Members: 227,551
Total Threads: 246,202 | Total Posts: 2,039,911

forums.offtopic.com stats:
Threads: 3,253,155, Posts: 78,889,237, Members: 170,787

Yet, OffTopic forums is running vB 3.6.7! And total number of its sub-forums outnumbers Winamp's by several multiples.

[Sarthek]

forums.offtopic.com stats:
Threads: 3,253,155, Posts: 78,889,237, Members: 170,787

I really find out interesting 78 Milions posts - but if you sum right column there are "only" few milion posts.

Is there really 78 M?

[Wayne Luke]

Really, it is the webmaster's and company's decision to upgrade or not. Even vBulletin 2.X has more features than most forums out there and many end-users do not care about the latest whizbang features available as long as the site works.

[Sarthek]

I really find out interesting 78 Milions posts - but if you sum right column there are "only" few milion posts.

Is there really 78 M?
Not to mention there are only few Viewings of forums, what are other 1600 "currently on-line" members doing?

[simsim]

Not to mention there are only few Viewings of forums, what are other 1600 "currently on-line" members doing?
Off Topic (1337 Viewing)
Welcome to the Internet.
Please maintain a good fellowship.

[WurkAnimal]

Really, it is the webmaster's and company's decision to upgrade or not. Even vBulletin 2.X has more features than most forums out there and many end-users do not care about the latest whizbang features available as long as the site works.

Word.

[JakeS]

Off Topic (http://%3Cb%3EOff%20Topic%3C/b%3E) (1337 Viewing)
Welcome to the Internet.
Please maintain a good fellowship.Yeah only 1336 more people viewing a single forum than all the people registered on my forum......:rolleyes:

[Sarthek]

Off Topic (http://%3Cb%3EOff%20Topic%3C/b%3E) (1337 Viewing)
Welcome to the Internet.
Please maintain a good fellowship.
What about 78 milions posts. Where are they?

Beside that I doubt 1337 are viewing 1 forum and 5 viewing few others :rolleyes:

[Hexify]

Wow, this thread got going quick. So have we come to any conclusions as to why they use it? How has the template design/mechanics changed from 2.x up until now?

[simsim]

What about 78 milions posts. Where are they?

Beside that I doubt 1337 are viewing 1 forum and 5 viewing few others :rolleyes:
Why do you think they're faking their stats? It's popular & one of the most HUGE vBulletins. 78 million posts are spread across forums & sub-forums. They may have other private forums that are not shown to guests.

[WurkAnimal]

I'm a member of OffTopic.com and have been since 2004, they don't fake their stats - trust me.

Contact the site owner, Fazle.

[Dilly]

Come on all you guys!

forums.winamp.com stats:
Registered Members: 227,551
Total Threads: 246,202 | Total Posts: 2,039,911

forums.offtopic.com stats:
Threads: 3,253,155, Posts: 78,889,237, Members: 170,787

Yet, OffTopic forums is running vB 3.6.7! And total number of its sub-forums outnumbers Winamp's by several multiples.
LOL. What relevance does that have?