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D1c3_GaM3
Fri 23rd Mar '07, 10:18pm
Hey guys,
I'm currently locked in a contract with Site5 till 08, although i'm looking to get out of the contract because their uptime is absolutely frustrating. My forum also has a website attached and i'd like to know any webhosters who offer large amounts of space and bandwidth with a guaranteed! 100% uptime!

If you guys could please help me out on a suitable host it will be much appreciated.

I will spend $15 American at most.

Thanks guys. :)

Gene Steinberg
Fri 23rd Mar '07, 11:13pm
Hey guys,
I'm currently locked in a contract with Site5 till 08, although i'm looking to get out of the contract because their uptime is absolutely frustrating. My forum also has a website attached and i'd like to know any webhosters who offer large amounts of space and bandwidth with a guaranteed! 100% uptime!

If you guys could please help me out on a suitable host it will be much appreciated.

I will spend $15 American at most.

Thanks guys. :)

You are asking for the impossible dream, my friend.

Nobody can deliver 100% uptime with a straight face. Servers have to be rebooted, updated, hard drives replaced, etc. Industry standard is 99.9% per year, and some boast 99.99%, although I suspect that's rarely achieved.

My experience is with Yahoo!, GoDaddy and DreamHost. The latter offers a higher amount of bandwidth and storage and isn't overbearing about using a little too much in terms of resources.

I have a medium-volume forum at DreamHost at www.theparacast.com/forums, if oyu want to check performance and such and see if they meet your needs.

Peace,
Gene

D1c3_GaM3
Sat 24th Mar '07, 12:52am
You are asking for the impossible dream, my friend.

Nobody can deliver 100% uptime with a straight face. Servers have to be rebooted, updated, hard drives replaced, etc. Industry standard is 99.9% per year, and some boast 99.99%, although I suspect that's rarely achieved.

My experience is with Yahoo!, GoDaddy and DreamHost. The latter offers a higher amount of bandwidth and storage and isn't overbearing about using a little too much in terms of resources.

I have a medium-volume forum at DreamHost at www.theparacast.com/forums (http://www.theparacast.com/forums), if oyu want to check performance and such and see if they meet your needs.

Peace,
Gene
Hey Gene,
I've actually been with Yahoo and i can safely say that there uptime is great - i was with them for about 7 months and it only ever went down once.

Although Site5 goes down everyday, sometimes more than once. Do other servers constantly go down on a daily bases?

e.g. Do you think Hostmonster is a safe option?

Gene Steinberg
Sat 24th Mar '07, 12:58am
Hey Gene,
I've actually been with Yahoo and i can safely say that there uptime is great - i was with them for about 7 months and it only ever went down once.

Although Site5 goes down everyday, sometimes more than once. Do other servers constantly go down on a daily bases?

e.g. Do you think Hostmonster is a safe option?

No, daily downtimes shouldn't be expected or tolerated.

I don't know about Hostmonster, but as with any host, you should check the online chatter and see what people say about it. Understand that there will be a horror story with almost every company, and people who don't like someone's services are more apt to complain. But with enough research, you should be able to get a fair indication of what you need.

As to Yahoo!, I agree they have good uptime, but I was plagued with slow performance more times than I wanted, and their customer support was pathetic. Also, I was able to get cbetter service for less money.

Peace,
Gene

D1c3_GaM3
Sat 24th Mar '07, 1:56am
No, daily downtimes shouldn't be expected or tolerated.

I don't know about Hostmonster, but as with any host, you should check the online chatter and see what people say about it. Understand that there will be a horror story with almost every company, and people who don't like someone's services are more apt to complain. But with enough research, you should be able to get a fair indication of what you need.

As to Yahoo!, I agree they have good uptime, but I was plagued with slow performance more times than I wanted, and their customer support was pathetic. Also, I was able to get cbetter service for less money.

Peace,
Gene
Yea, i agree Yahoo's customer Support is absolute garbage. I'll look around this forum. Thanks for your help.

Best Regards,
Tom

Jedito
Sun 25th Mar '07, 12:03pm
How much space and bandwidth do you want? and how much do you really need? :)
I suggest you to avoid those "super crazy deals" where you get 2394832498 GB of Space and 2983219038 of Bandwidth for $5 a month. That just can't happen, and to get a package like that is just looking for troubles.

encryption
Mon 26th Mar '07, 4:37pm
.... i'd like to know any webhosters who offer large amounts of space and bandwidth with a guaranteed! 100% uptime!

I will spend $15 American at most.

I dont mean to sound rude by a long shot, but space + bandwidth are potentially the 2 of the least important pieces of information to consider when shopping for forum hosting. Not to mention you're looking for a Ferrari when you've budgeted for a Ford.

In any event, What is the size of your database? What are the max number of members you have online at the same time ? How many mods are installed ?

Gene Steinberg
Mon 26th Mar '07, 4:51pm
I dont mean to sound rude by a long shot, but space + bandwidth are potentially the 2 of the least important pieces of information to consider when shopping for forum hosting. Not to mention you're looking for a Ferrari when you've budgeted for a Ford.

In any event, What is the size of your database? What are the max number of members you have online at the same time ? How many mods are installed ?

One more thing: There is no such thing as 100% uptime. Servers have to be updated, restarted, replaced, and network equipment requires maintenance as well. Even the cherished 99.9% uptime touted by many hosts is often a pipedream.

But, as is said here, you need to explain more of your needs, so people can see if you're being a little too unrealistic or not. Yes, you can get good results for $10-15 per month, but you'll have to consider the limits of shared hosting as well.

Peace,
Gene

medialayer
Mon 26th Mar '07, 8:26pm
100% uptime is non-existent as others have alludded to.

Furthermore, make sure that you do not go for hosts who oversell to an extreme, or in other words offer the world for nothing (like Site5), assuming you do not want to be frustrated with such downtime issues yet again.

Best,

Gene Steinberg
Mon 26th Mar '07, 8:32pm
100% uptime is non-existent as others have alludded to.

Furthermore, make sure that you do not go for hosts who oversell to an extreme, or in other words offer the world for nothing (like Site5), assuming you do not want to be frustrated with such downtime issues yet again.

Best,

All shared hosts oversell to one degree or another. This is just a pejorative used as an excuse for bad service. Bad service is another issue that has to be dealt with separately.

Peace,
Gene

encryption
Tue 27th Mar '07, 6:53pm
All shared hosts oversell to one degree or another. This is just a pejorative used as an excuse for bad service. Bad service is another issue that has to be dealt with separately.

Peace,
Gene

Thats a rather brave generalization..... there isn't a degree of overselling in my opinion. Your server slows down even a tad, you've oversold the box. Thats all there is to it. There is no set marker to define the rule other than how the server and the hosted sites are performing.

I personally dont oversell. Never have never will.

Gene Steinberg
Tue 27th Mar '07, 7:51pm
Thats a rather brave generalization..... there isn't a degree of overselling in my opinion. Your server slows down even a tad, you've oversold the box. Thats all there is to it. There is no set marker to define the rule other than how the server and the hosted sites are performing.

I personally dont oversell. Never have never will.

The general definition of overselling is that you offer high amounts of bandwidth and storage, knowing only a fraction of a percent of your users will ever need even close to that amount. However, if you pack your servers too much, that's bad business.

If you're not overselling in the first sense, you're overpriced, because you are selling capacity that is never used.

If you are not overselling in the second sense, that you try not to let your servers become overloaded, great.

Peace,
Gene

encryption
Tue 27th Mar '07, 11:42pm
The general definition of overselling is that you offer high amounts of bandwidth and storage, knowing only a fraction of a percent of your users will ever need even close to that amount. However, if you pack your servers too much, that's bad business.

If you're not overselling in the first sense, you're overpriced, because you are selling capacity that is never used.

If you are not overselling in the second sense, that you try not to let your servers become overloaded, great.

Peace,
Gene

You make a valid point about the general definition of overselling but in an era of CPU-Hungry site hosting, when I speak of "overselling", I'm not referring to overselling space and bandwidth to attract members. As I mentioned in another thread, those are probably the most irrelevant options to consider, especially if you have a fairly large forum.

The ONLY determinant for me is server load. I could dump 500 plain html sites on a server and if the server performs well, I haven't overloaded the machine at all. But if I have 5 large forums on a shared environment and all the sites are coming to a crawl, I've oversold the potential of the server.

Anyhow I feel I hijacked this thread and so apologies to the poster of this thread.