Grammer Mistake

[Mauu]

I may be mistaken, but I believe: "Create Permissions Based off of Usergroup:" should become "Create Permissions Based off Usergroup:" in the add new usergroup page. :)

[Quillz]

You misspelled "grammar."

[Andy]

You misspelled "grammar."

The period should be after the second quote. :D

[Mauu]

You misspelled "grammar."
Doh! I knew I would make a mistake like that. :-)

[Mike Sullivan]

The period should be after the second quote. :D
Actually, the conventions for that vary. Putting the punctuation for the sentence containing the quotation is the American method; at least it was what I was taught in school. Not that I agree with it. :)

[daemon]

I think it's more colloquial to say "off of" as people often use that construction in verbal speech. However, I do not know if it's grammatically correct to use it in written form.


The period should be after the second quote. :D
Actually, in American English, convention is to put the period inside the quotation mark (periods and commas go inside; dashes, semicolons, colons, exclamation marks, and question marks go outside) unless placing it there would lead to ambiguity of the sentence. This ambiguity generally occurs when writing documentation or when symbols are critical (like certain scientific and computing applications). But in this case, the period would indeed go inside the quotation mark if one were to conform to the American English rule.

Edit: Mike types faster than me :(.

[Andy]

Thanks for the clarification on the period placement. :)

[Marco van Herwaarden]

A strange rule that doesn't sound very logical to me. ;)

You use quotation marks to quote some text found somewhere else.

For me logic tells:
- If the quoted text contain a period, then this period belongs to the quote and should go inside the quotation marks.
- If the quotation is used inside a sentence, then you will have to en that sentence. A sentence is ended with a period, and should end the sentence and not the quotation, hence it should be outside.

Someone posted the text "Do not quote this.". <-- would be correct to my logic.

[---MAD---]

A strange rule that doesn't sound very logical to me. ;)

You use quotation marks to quote some text found somewhere else.

For me logic tells:
- If the quoted text contain a period, then this period belongs to the quote and should go inside the quotation marks.
- If the quotation is used inside a sentence, then you will have to en that sentence. A sentence is ended with a period, and should end the sentence and not the quotation, hence it should be outside.

Someone posted the text "Do not quote this.". <-- would be correct to my logic.
I see what you mean. This is like private lessons now LOL. Dont charge us :|

[Marco van Herwaarden]

I only posted what i would find logical. I didn't say that was also how grammar rules work.

Guess that is why i always had bad grades for grammar........it is not logical.

[feldon23]

I put the period outside the quote because it leads to ambiguity to do otherwise. I don't care what the English teachers say.

[peterska2]

In English English (as opposed to the American butchering of the English language) the correct way is to quote text "like this".

And back to the actual topic of the thread, the grammatically correct phrase would be "Create Permissions Based upon Usergroup:"

[daemon]

A strange rule that doesn't sound very logical to me. ;)

You use quotation marks to quote some text found somewhere else.

For me logic tells:
- If the quoted text contain a period, then this period belongs to the quote and should go inside the quotation marks.
- If the quotation is used inside a sentence, then you will have to en that sentence. A sentence is ended with a period, and should end the sentence and not the quotation, hence it should be outside.

Someone posted the text "Do not quote this.". <-- would be correct to my logic.
I think it could go either way, depending on context. If it were a manual, I think it would be perfectly fine to do this:

You will receive an error describing "Complete system failure.".

But, according to The Bedford Handbook by Diana Hacker (the book my school uses for all things grammar as it's just a friendly interface to the MLA style manual, which is essentially the definitive guide for American English), periods and commas always go inside regardless of the quoted material's use of them:

You will receive an error describing "Complete system failure."

[Onimua]

In English English (as opposed to the American butchering of the English language) the correct way is to quote text "like this".

And back to the actual topic of the thread, the grammatically correct phrase would be "Create Permissions Based upon Usergroup:"

It's all iffy to me, actually. I've seen the period used in places depending on how the sentence ends or is:

"For example, this is one sentence within a quote, so the period is in the quotation marks."

John said, "I'm putting the perioud OUTSIDE the quotation marks because it finishes the sentence as a whole".

[Mauu]

I have always been taught to put periods inside because of when you add foot notes. Example: Joe then said, "Let there be peace."[2]

I believe the idea is that the foot-note is not part of the sentence itself, but something extra.

[feldon23]

The period might not be part of the quote either. That's our point. :)

[Andy]

The thread title does not have a period in it, why would you want to add one if you are quoting it?