Vote for your favorite board - vBulletin Board of the Year - 2005!

[s.molinari]

Hi everyone,

Yep you've read it right! It's our first vBulletin Board of the Year! I'm so excited.:p:D

This will be a poll to pick the best of the best. The winning owner/admin will be able to choose from one of the following:

5 years of free renewals for his or her owned license
a new owned license
a free upgrade to an owned license for a leased license

The regular voting guide lines (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108202)apply as usual. The voting, however will go for 60 days as of today.

Take a good look at all the boards before casting your vote and may the best board win!:D

As always, have fun.

Scott

[Lizard King]

I voted for thekryptonian.com because i still love the design :)

[Floris]

I could not help but vote for my own site :)

[Mr. Brian]

Hmm.. No doubt. vBStyle.com will be my choice. :)

[derekivey]

I voted for vBStyle :).

[michaelbenson]

thenailgeek.com gets my vote ;)

[GamerzWorld]

thenailgeek.com gets my vote ;)

Same :)

[Skyline_GTR]

gamerzPlanet.net get my vote:D
hehe.

[phatguy88]

GZP got my vote

(Its Caveman)

[aljawariss]

thanks 4 all

I voted for vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71) .

alwafi

[smackLAN]

another great bunch of sites and difficult choices, but...gamerzPlanet takes my vote :)

[John Miller]

gamesforum.com is my choice

[mikaelweb]

No doubt. vBStyle.com

[shex]

vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71)
Developer

[hugh_]

I vote for talkwebhosts.com (http://www.talkwebhosts.com/) :)

hugh

[nasser71]

I vote for vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71) .

netzoner

[kawakb]

vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71)

[SHARGI]

i vote for vbulletinclub

[bsmat]

I voted for vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71)

[x_5]

http://www.vbulletinclub.com

[RED_LINE]

I vote for vbulletinclub.com :)
Best Regards,

[JMalik]

Hi There, I think the most GREATE STYLE I have seen until this moment is

vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71) :)

Wooooooow
Not Anything You see it Every day ! ..

[see7r]

thanks 4 all

I voted for vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71) .

alwafi
thanks

[Rayyani]

same here!

vbulletinclub.com

the leather style is something unbelievable!!

[alamuae]

vbulletinclub.com Got My Vote

[marsauae]

Isee vbulletinclub is the best, so im vote for vbulletinclub

[leenaid]

vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71)

[GamerzWorld]

Im confused... how is an foreign board the majority of us cant understand going to win a favourite board? I dont even know what it is about, and dont even rate the style compared to others on display. Guess thats just my personal view

[AWS]

It is a popular forum and there are many loyal vbulletin owners that support it.
Nice to see a community of sticking together to get their board elected.
Does it really matter if it is a non English board? No where in the rules does it say you have to be able to read it to qualify.

[GamerzWorld]

It is a popular forum and there are many loyal vbulletin owners that support it.
Nice to see a community of sticking together to get their board elected.
Does it really matter if it is a non English board? No where in the rules does it say you have to be able to read it to qualify.

But how can anyone not arabic make any form of assumption? Until you told me I had no idea of what it was. Just feels as if the board voting is more down to the board with the most vbulletin owners rather than the actual board's qualities itself

[SudaBest]

fine vBulletin style design is vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71) and I voted for it
best regard

[AWS]

But how can anyone not arabic make any form of assumption? Until you told me I had no idea of what it was. Just feels as if the board voting is more down to the board with the most vbulletin owners rather than the actual board's qualities itself
You under estimate how many non-English speaking people run forums. I voted for vbulletin club even though I can't read it. Although I voted for it for a different reason. I get tired of the same people winning all the time. There are people that had new sites nominated and win as soon as the site goes live because of who they are while others that have far bigger and better forums lose.

[sensimilla]

fine vBulletin style design is vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71) and I voted for it
best regard

give me a brake, its the worst design I have ever seen :confused: good taste? what taste..

[Colin Behr]

I do agree with those who say that it is nice to see someone different win. However, I would like to see someone win fairly.

I assume that rallying votes is not allowed? That was basically more than 30 votes in 24 hours. Now to me, that seems like someone is flouting the rules.

Edit: I'm not going to comment on the design because I believe that if you have nothing good to say, then don't say it at all....

[alduhmy]

vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71) is my choice

[DirectPixel]

The Nail Geek. :)

I'm biased.

[Dosa]

I voted for vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71) because i still love the design

[993ti]

Voted juicyduff.
I find it a bit awkward that vbulletinclub gets so many votes in a short time, especially from users who are arabic too.
I smell vote rallying.

[VB-STYLE]

vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71) :)

[SudaBest]

give me a brake, its the worst design I have ever seen :confused: good taste? what taste..
It's seem to me you do not have tasty view ;) ,, really vbulletinclube.com have fine touch in all there styles and u can check all there style from drop-down menu...
please keeep ur stranger opintion to urself
thanks
and vbulletinclube.com is the best I've voted for it will all my finger's :D

[blueuniverse]

I'll have to concur with a few other opinions here - it just seems a tad odd that a site well behind in the voting is suddenly up there with twice as many votes as second place. Especially the case with it only having 40,000 posts and being in Arabic - design is subjective so that's not really an area to comment on.

I mean, the whole second page is covered in new users voting for the site, obviously with no idea how this usually works. To me, there isn't really any question about it so I really hope you stick by your rules to maintain the general quality of the competition.

Anyway, I guess this is what you get when you offer a substantial prize, live and learn I guess.

[AWS]

When vbulletin club won for the month the same thing was said. It was investigated and found they did nothing wrong. They have a loyal userbase and most of them own vbulletin licenses and choose to vote for a forum they are familiar with. Thay have a right to vote for whoever they please.
I am sure if vbulletin Germany was allowed into the contest that the same thing would happen. While vbulletin club is not an official Jelsoft site they are in the eyes of Middle East forum owners. Use a translator to view the forum. You'll understand why the users are loyal.

[Steve Machol]

FWIW there are a lot of licensed Arabic sites. vBulletin is by far the leading BB system for Arabic sites.

[JMalik]

FWIW there are a lot of licensed Arabic sites. vBulletin is by far the leading BB system for Arabic sites.
That's right even more alot of arabic web sites is only for developing vBulletin, and that's why alot of arabic web sites use it.
i don't know why some members think vbulletinclub.com is not cool ! , any way they have there own reasons ;) .

[4hoste.com]

vote for vbulletinclub.com nice style man

[sadauae]

vbulletinclub.com

[AbdulAziz Nasser]

I voted for vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71)

nice style

[Abu Mshari]

vbulletinclub.com :)

[Steve Machol]

Note: The votes are audited and any votes from members that have not been registered at least 30 days will not be counted. Just an FYI.

[AWS]

Note: The votes are audited and any votes from members that have not been registered at least 30 days will not be counted. Just an FYI.
Thanks for clearing that up Steve.

[sarahk]

another vote for www.juicyduff.com (http://www.juicyduff.com), not quite my thing but I'm very impressed at the community, style and activity. I've been a member for a while now and my 8 year old forces me to take an active interest. It's a good site.

I have my own vBulletin ranking tool so I wanted to add all these sites to it however I require RSS to be turned on and I was surprised that so many don't take advantage of the technology that's inbuilt to vB.

And as for vbulletin-style. They have: Members: 7,425, Active Members: 125. Why the huge difference? Don't people want to hang about?
Can't comment on vbulletinclub.com as I'm woefully mono-lingual.

Sarah

[GamerzWorld]

I suppose congratulations, sooner or later people will stop bothering entering if its simply down to this kind of voting..

[JohnScott32]

I suppose congratulations, sooner or later people will stop bothering entering if its simply down to this kind of voting..

I definitely think they should be looking at where the votes are coming from on some of these.

[AWS]

I definitely think they should be looking at where the votes are coming from on some of these.
The votes are coming from their members who own vbulletin licenses. That site is an unofficial support site for Arabic vbulletin owners.
If you would take the time to read a little at vbulletin club with the help of a translator you would understand why their users are coming here to vote for the site they think is the best.
It is no different than when vbulletin.org or one of Floris vbulletin fan sites win. The users of the sites own licenses and support the site by voting for them.

[JohnScott32]

The votes are coming from their members who own vbulletin licenses. That site is an unofficial support site for Arabic vbulletin owners.
If you would take the time to read a little at vbulletin club with the help of a translator you would understand why their users are coming here to vote for the site they think is the best.
It is no different than when vbulletin.org or one of Floris vbulletin fan sites win. The users of the sites own licenses and support the site by voting for them.

That gives a gross advantage to vBulletin-centered forums. I'm guessing that a vBulletin centered community with 100 members could kick the snot out of any forum I put forth, even though I have forums with a total of over 30,000 members, but the discussion of those forums does not deal with vB.

I do not know how to rectify that, but it does seem wrong.

[AWS]

You're absolutely correct and larger more established comunitties have indeed been beaten by a startup vbulletin centered site. There are many good forums that make the poll every month and the contest is fair to all of them. The problem arises when one of these unofficial vbulletin fan sites or vbulletin centric sites get in the running. Then the winner is clearly known before the voting begins.

I don't think there is anything that can be done about it. Maybe the owners of these sites have to show more dicretion when it comes to nominating themselves.

[shellspeare]

It was a very tough decision as there's some fantastic boards up there but my vote finally went to www.gamerzplanet.net (http://www.gamerzplanet.net) because it has alot of everything, a great skin, fantastic atmosphere, loads to see and do and good management.

Well done :)

[s.molinari]

Hi,

Just my 2 cents. I just have one question. If you were to stop the possibilily of vB owners supporting a certain site that they frequently visit, and we actually had a list of criteria for basing votes on, what would that list be?

1. Good and original style
2. Good community activity
3. Good atmosphere in the community
4. Good support/ help for the users in the subject the board is based on
5. Good knowledge base
6. (may personal favorite) Good reason why vB is so good ;)

Doesn't vbulletinclub do well in all of these? It is obvious that the owner of vbulletinclub put a lot of work into his board. Just click through some of the styles he has and read some of the translated posts. So why shouldn't he be honored for supporting vBulletin and it's arabic community? Just because he has a lot of vBulletin owners on his site isn't a reason to knock him out of the contest, but rather a good reason to be happy he is winning. Our main goals in this contest are basically:

1. To honor the hard work of board owners and give them an opportunity to show it off
2. To find the best boards
3. To promote vBulletin

I do feel we are getting this done, no matter who wins. So please be happy with the results as they are. We cannot change the way the voting goes as it is. If we do see wrong doing (rallying, votes from non-owners), we will announce it at the end of the contest.

Scott

p.s. I will say, who ever wins, they will not be able to enter the vB BotM contest again for 5 years, since they won the top honors, it wouldn't be right to let them in the contest again. That way we can "make room" for other boards. Let me know what you think. Send me a PM (also if you have any other suggestions).

[siNix]

www.dmfnet.nl (http://www.dmfnet.nl) ? or am i again to late;)

[Kathy]

You're absolutely correct and larger more established comunitties have indeed been beaten by a startup vbulletin centered site. There are many good forums that make the poll every month and the contest is fair to all of them. The problem arises when one of these unofficial vbulletin fan sites or vbulletin centric sites get in the running. Then the winner is clearly known before the voting begins.

I don't think there is anything that can be done about it. Maybe the owners of these sites have to show more dicretion when it comes to nominating themselves.

Sad...because it means that well established, long term, excellent vb websites that deserve to win haven't a chance and will stop nominating themselves. :(

[Oliver Szczypka]

The outcomes of this contest seem to be a contradiction to the aims. It's an insult to other contestants who do things fairly and an even bigger insult to the wider vBulletin community when blatant cheating is awarded. Just how are we supposed to find the best boards when the contest is practically rigged from the start?

This thread is NOT full of contoversy because of vbulletin-club infringing the trademarks of vBulletin and Jaguar - I couldn't care less about that. Instead it's because the contest was running smoothly for a period of 1 month until suddenly in the space of a few days vbulletin-club went from 1 vote to 50+ votes!

Just how is it possible for a site which was losing to suddenly steal the number one spot and then have more votes than most of the contestants combined?!

[Steve Machol]

As I said before, any votes from members that have not been registered for more than 30 days are not counted.

Having said that, I'm frankly so discourraged by the constant complaining these votes generate that I would be in favor of dropping the entire program. Some people always find new ways to ruin what was supposed to be something good.

[smackLAN]

Having said that, I'm frankly so discourraged by the constant complaining these votes generate that I would be in favor of dropping the entire program. Some people always find new ways to ruin what was supposed to be something good.
Would be a shame if it came to that, but I can see your reasoning.

[MRGTB]

That gives a gross advantage to vBulletin-centered forums. I'm guessing that a vBulletin centered community with 100 members could kick the snot out of any forum I put forth, even though I have forums with a total of over 30,000 members, but the discussion of those forums does not deal with vB.

I do not know how to rectify that, but it does seem wrong.

I never thought about that, but it's a good point really. Seeing as vBulletin-club is mainly aimed at vBulletin licenced users who could come here and vote for it in mass numbers. Means it kind of throws this into confusion really. As other normal sites not run specificly around vbulletin licenced users will not have loads of members on there site like vBulletin-club who could come here voting in mass to make sure it hits number one spot.

I think that has been well spotted and brought up by JohnScott as a bit of a flaw in these comps.

[almarsaa.net]

i vote for vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71)

[5ial.com]

my vote for vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71)

it's very Good Forums

thanks vBulletin And you can check vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71) if inside it your links ...

5ial.com

[jree7]

I voted for vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71) . :)

[doooom.net]

vbulletinclub.com

[Arkham]

I could not help but vote for my own site :)

Also voted for yours.

While I'm glad my original suggestion of restricting votes to members over 30 days is being enforced, I still think post-counts should be taken into consideration. There should be a fair balance.

[alkahf]

Thank you!

Best regards 4 All! :)

alkahf

[zain jaffer]

Also voted for yours.

While I'm glad my original suggestion of restricting votes to members over 30 days is being enforced, I still think post-counts should be taken into consideration. There should be a fair balance.

Good suggestion.

Steve, this contest is for a period of 60 days. The 30 day rule is usually appropriate for normal contests, wouldn't it better to change the limit for this contest?

[Steve Machol]

Good suggestion.

Steve, this contest is for a period of 60 days. The 30 day rule is usually appropriate for normal contests, wouldn't it better to change the limit for this contest?
Makes sense to me.

[hollyboy]

thekryptonian.com (http://www.thekryptonian.com/forum.php)

amazing design

[jro7i]

vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71)

very best and very nice

[yhdf]

I voted for vbulletinclub.com .

[beebi]

to vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71)

[©™®B.R.H.O.M©™®]

vote vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71)

[Kathy]

.

That's quite a name you have there. :eek:

[Arkham]

That's quite a name you have there. :eek:

Yes, in fact I think I'll take it! ;)

[siNix]

how come that gamesforum is here for the seconde time?

[alkahf]

Best regards for all contributors and users of vBulletin allover the world.

Everyone who is watching this brand new competition will notice that most people subscribed in it are feeling frustrated & depressed about how it is going, and I may excuse him for that.
But if we view it with a broader and unbiased look, we will discover that in fact this is the logical result, maybe if it weren’t like that it would have been illogical and wrong. I have many reasonable reasons for what I am saying and will try to list them – fairly – forgetting that I am a competitor in this.

If we take a closer look, we will find this competition containing 12 subscribed forums, eleven of them are in English and only one is in Arabic, and the only Arabic forum won. Is it a logical result?? I simply say yes. The reason is very simple and it is that 90% of voters will find it difficult to cast their votes on a forum that they don’t understand and thereby can't judge. Then, naturally, all of them will vote for the one they do understand.
As the Arabic wisdom says: "Man hates what he don’t know!".

On the contrary, if we say that the 12 subscribed forums were all in Arabic except only one in English, this one forum would get most votes, and I believe no one would disagree with that. For the same simple reason and that we don’t leave any choice for English speaking people but to vote for the only forum they can understand.

Now, say 10 of them were in English, and 2 in Arabic. How would the result be? In this case I don’t think any of these 2 Arabic forums would win, because Arab users' votes will be split between those 2 forums. That would lead to decreasing the probability of them to win to the half, and increasing the probability of English forums to win to the double.

And also, if we say 3 forums were Arabic and 9 were English, I can say that the probability for any Arabic forum of them to win would be very small or equal to zero.

Someone would say: Where can we get 3 or 4 Arabic forums to join the competition and achieve that? How can this be done while the competition is between the winners of 12 monthly competitions during the year?
Then I smile J and say: This is not what I intended to reach, but I only wanted to simplify my idea with a clear example.

Now let us assume that the competitors' forums were as listed:

French forum.
German forum.
Italian forum.
British forum.
American forum.
Russian forum.
Chinese forum.
Japanese forum.
Arabic forum.
Indian forum.
Turkish forum.
Brazilian forum.Who can predict the result?
In this case only, I would say that predicting the winning forum will be very difficult. Exactly the opposite of what we saw in this competition, as many people expected the winner and even sometimes from the start of the competition.

At the same time, the door will be open for many participants of different languages and hence we'll definitely notice an increase in the number of votes that may exceed 1000 votes in contrast to the current rate which doesn’t exceed 200 votes.

It is unfortunate that this competition - which is about the biggest and most famous forum software allover the Internet – doesn’t have more than 200 votes while it is performed on a yearly basis (I underlined the word yearly) and it is allocated a prize that is valuable for a lot of people.

On contrast, let us take a look these polls:
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=634
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=105370
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=102998
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=100840

We will notice that votes are about 700+, while it is done monthly.

Frankly speaking, this comparison hits the reader with frustration and disappointment, and we should find the explanation for it, discover the bug (I say bug not error), and try to avoid it in the future, specially that monthly competitions here are included in this analysis and share similar frustrations.

Going back to my last example about the 12 different-nationality forums, I would consider the organizers of this competition - (Vote for your favorite Board - vB Board of the Month) – are responsible for this bug in the competition, and they should seek a solution for it, and since the yearly competition - (Vote for your favorite board - vBulletin Board of the Year) - is a result of the monthly one, bug discovery and solution should start from the monthly one.

One suggestion would be that the organizers of these competitions enhance their activities by frequently searching for vBulletin-license owners' websites of different nationalities and nominate some that qualify for the competition? Live Forums Click here (http://www.vbulletin.com/links.php)
If they did so, I am certain that the average number of voters in the monthly competition will rise 1000%, because forums of different nationalities, interests, and hobbies are included. And as a result, we will find that voting participation in the yearly competition rises more than 1000% for the same reason. Needless to say, this will also provide moral support to vBulletin-license owners who will feel JelSoft's concern about them and their websites.

I would also like to emphasize that I am not prejudice to a particular race, religion, country, or language, but the spread of vBulletin allover the world makes the organizers responsible for looking into the matter with a broader Universal look that would always keep vBulletin on the top of the race against its competitors.

After this abstract analysis, I turn to today's results to say:
Dear ladies and gentlemen, what is the common thing between us here in this forum? Isn’t it our love to vBulletin? Isn’t it vBulletin that gathers all of us here today? I may understand why someone would be annoyed if this competition is between several forum vendors, and another forum software other than vBulletin win the first place. However, I am very surprised that some people may show lack of tact. After-all, all of us are users of this distinguished software and we should be glad for the winner no matter what their name, approach or level.

Isn’t the success of one of us, is considered, at the end, success for all of us, because it eventually supports vBulletin's progress and makes it more stable at the world of internet.

Frankly, I look at this yearly competition with a different look. I see it like a honoring the 12 winning forums during the last year, all forums submitted to this competition are winning because they indeed won the monthly competition, and vBulletin's management honored them here… So, I don’t find any reason for any of us to exceed the limits of tact since everyone in this competition is winner at last, as this list is a testimony of what I have just said:
http://www.vbulletin.com/botm.php (http://www.vbulletin.com/botm.php)

And as a confirmation for my words, I announce my wish to share my prize with the top 5 forums in this competition, to be as follows:
· vBulletinClub.com: 1 year of free renewal for his or her owned license
· vBulletin-Style.com: 1 year of free renewal for his or her owned license
· juicyduff.com: 1 year of free renewal for his or her owned license
· GamesForum.com: 1 year of free renewal for his or her owned license
· TalkPanic.com: 1 year of free renewal for his or her owned license

At last, I am very glad that this is the second time for me to win a forum competition with vBulletin's support. My first winning competition was in November 2000 - Organized by a TV program in Abu Dhabi Satellite TV Channel - where 10 forums were submitted to the competition and ALKAHF Forum won the 1st place, and I was invited from Moscow to Abu Dhabi and hosted for one week by Abu Dhabi TV, and received the prize of $1000.00 and a Quality Certificate.


If anyone is interested to watch a recording of the TV program, they can obtain it from here: 1 (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/download/1.RM) 2 (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/download/4.RM) 3 (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/download/5.RM) 4 (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/download/6.RM) 5 (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/download/7.RM)
Back then, I was using vBulletin when it was introduced as a competitor and a very good solution to other silly bulletin board packages that were controlling the forums world before year 2000. Many thanks to vBulletin, in which we found all what we were looking for in a forum software, and I hope it always stays at the top.
I would also like to convey to all of you the best regards from ALKAHF's work team, including:

Dr. Samy Abdel Ghany - Manager of ALKAHF at the Middle East (Designer of Jaguar style).
Eng. Mostafa Abdel Latief.
Eng. Mahmoud Hussein.
Eng. Ahmed El Sayed Hamed.
Eng. Alaa Elewa Ali.
Eng. Khaled Hasan Ali.
Eng. Mostafa Jamal.
Eng. Amr Helmy – Maya specialist click here to see what Maya can do (http://www.alkahf.net/zico2/zico2.wmv)(right-click and save)
Dr. Salah Naanaa – Representative of ALKAHF at Riyadh – Saudia Arabia.
Mr. Abdel Rahman Mohammed Abdel Nafea - Representative of ALKAHF at Mekkah – Saudia Arabia.
Eng. Manar Qebawa - Representative of ALKAHF at Syria.
Eng. Mohammed Azraan - Representative of ALKAHF at Doha - Qatar.
Mr. Ahmed Mohammed Abd elKreem - Representative of ALKAHF at United Arab Emirates.
Author of this article: Emad El Deen and Mrs. Alsu – Founders of ALKAHF at Moscow.In this occasion, it is our pleasure to present you with the gift style "vBulletin Board of the Year – 2005!" as a PSD file which was designed in both English and Arabic:
Click to download "vBulletin Board of the Year – 2005!" style in Arabic (http://www.vbulletinclub.ae/attachment.php?attachmentid=4795&d=1143204089).
Click to download "vBulletin Board of the Year – 2005!" style in English (http://www.vbulletinclub.ae/attachment.php?attachmentid=4794&d=1143204089).

At the end, I would like to share with you some picture for our celebration of this occasion which happened to coincide for this day to be my 46th birthday.

[/URL] (http://www.vbulletinclub.ae/images/alkahfGruop.jpg) (http://www.vbulletinclub.ae/images/alkahfGruop2.jpg) (http://www.vbulletinclub.ae/images/alkahfGruop4.jpg) (http://www.vbulletinclub.ae/images/alkahfGruop6.jpg)

Best regards for all.
ALKAHF

[U]Note: This article is translated to Arabic and you can download the Arabic version in here.
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Note: I would suggest vBulletin's developers team to add a new option to the Admin Control Panel, when adding a new poll, which allows only people registered for X days (for example 30) to add their vote, it would be useful for vBulletin users especially after we needed it here suddenly.

[s.molinari]

Hi Everyone,

Before the discussion here gets too deep, I am waiting for Kier to check the script we use to analyze the votes. At the moment it isn't working for this poll and I do not know why. As soon as the script works, I will anounce the winner. Everyone will either have to be happy about it or just not take part in the contest. It's that simple.

Scott

[Floris]

If I win, I am going YAY and then give away my prize to runner up juicyduff.com (http://www.forum.juicyduff.com/) :) ktnxplz

[adb22791]

If I win, I am going YAY and then give away my prize to runner up juicyduff.com (http://www.forum.juicyduff.com/) :) ktnxplz
Wait... I don't get a prize? But... but... but... I voted! At least give me a sticker or something ;)

[Kathy]

If I win, I'm going to give my prize the prize to Floris for being such a nice guy. :D

Oh wait, I'm not in this competition :p

[AWS]

Hi Everyone,

Before the discussion here gets too deep, I am waiting for Kier to check the script we use to analyze the votes. At the moment it isn't working for this poll and I do not know why. As soon as the script works, I will anounce the winner. Everyone will either have to be happy about it or just not take part in the contest. It's that simple.

Scott
Humm.

[zain jaffer]

If I win, I am going YAY and then give away my prize to runner up juicyduff.com (http://www.forum.juicyduff.com/) :) ktnxplz

That's very kind of you Floris.

Our inspiration (Hilary Duff) is very charitable. Our community and team share the same values as Hilary Duff and for this reason we have decided that if we do win the vB owned license, we will not be accepting the prize and would like vBulletin to donate the cash equivalent to a charity which Hilary Duff supports called "Kids with a cause (http://www.kidswithacause.org/)".

[s.molinari]

Hi everyone,

Sorry this took so long.

The winner is, fair and square, vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71).

Congratulations!

@alkahf - Please send me a PM with your choice of prize. If you wish the 5 year license renewal, let me know either your license number (if you have more than one license) or your customer number.

As for the "unfairness" that was mentioned in this thread, I've thought long and hard on a way how to make everyone happy with this for the future, and unfortunately, I've decided to go the hard way. I've contemplated with the thought of not allowing any boards into the contest, which also indirectly support vBulletin customers. That would be, however, not pursuant to the goals of this contest. As I had mentioned earlier, this contest is also to support vBulletin, to market it. And if a board wins, because that board supports vBulletin even indirectly, then they are doing in my opinion exactly what vBulletin needs. Is it an advantage against other boards based on subjects other than vBulletin? yes. Is it unfair? No, at least not from my point of view it isn't.

As I said, this decision will not make everyone happy. It is a decision though, which I hope everyone can respect. vBulletinclub.com has won.

The vB BotM contest will continue and other good boards will win. Some will be based on the subject vBulletin, some will not. I'd think to say, any board even nominated for vB BotM is a winner in itself.

If you have comments or suggestions about my decision, please do let me know about them, but be fair, be objective and be positive.:) If you want to rant and rave, send me a PM.;)

Scott

[zain jaffer]

Hi everyone,

Sorry this took so long.

The winner is, fair and square, vbulletinclub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71).

Congratulations!



Congratulations Alkahf! - Don't worry about donating the prize you mentioned earlier to me, I'd rather you donated the cash equivalent to the charity mentioned in my previous post.

Scott, I respect your decision and I hope that others will do so too. I'm happy that we came in second place just 1 vote ahead of my old buddy Floris. Everyone who participated is a winner, congratulations to all of the contestants.

[Dean C]

It's interesting to see how this competition has evolved, and alas my thoughts have already been mentioned. I think it's extremely unfair to say the comeptition was biased towards the Arab voters. I think in this case it just happened to be that there are a lot of Arab vBulletin owners who wanted to support the community alkahf has developed for them. Had vBulletinClub not been in the running, I strongly thing Floris's forum would have won, simply because he has a lot of "supporters" within this forum.

Nevertheless, a big congratulations to alkahf and his community :) Keep up the good work in the Arab vBulletin world! :D

[BoYagoob]

Congratulations alkahf! :)

I am the one who usually get the vBulletin support from vBulletinClub.com

Keep it up the good work my brother .. :)

[alkahf]

Best Regards to Everyone,

I was afraid that the winner would be announced in April Fools' Day :). Fortunately, it was announced in the third day.
Congratulations to vBulletin ..
Congratulations to all the twelve contestants.
I wish that the prize could have been split among us all. I am still willing to split it between the top five winners in the poll as follows:
• vBulletinClub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71): 1 year of free renewal for his or her owned license
• juicyduff.com (http://www.forum.juicyduff.com/): 1 year of free renewal for his or her owned license
• vBulletin-Style.com (http://www.vbulletin-style.com/?styleid=2): 1 year of free renewal for his or her owned license
• GamesForum.com (http://www.gamesforum.com/): 1 year of free renewal for his or her owned license
• TalkPanic.com (http://www.talkpanic.com/): 1 year of free renewal for his or her owned license
I would also like to ask the administrators of the other four forums to send me PM including the license that they which to renew for one year, or send a PM directly to Scott and let me know that they did so.

Regarding donations as some suggested, I would rather make a separate donation without any announcement and continue with sharing the prize with the other winners. I believe that a secret donation would gain God's love.

I wanted to comment further on the contest but I will leave the debate to the near future. Again, I would like to thank everyone and convey my best wishes to everyone for better winning next time.

Best Regards,

Alkahf


تحياتي للجميع
كنت أخشى أن يتم إعلان الفائز في 1 أبريل :) و لكن لحسن الحظ تم الإعلان في اليوم الثالث من إبريل ...
هنيئاً فيبوليتين ... هنيئاً نادي فيبوليتين ... هنيئاً لكل المتسابقين الاثني عشر الذين دخلت منتدياتهم في هذه المسابقة و كم كنت أتمنى لو أن الجائزة كانت ممكنة التقسيم على 12 لقمت باقتسامها معكم جميعاً ، و لكن يبدو أنني سأقتسمها فقط بين الخمسة الذين حصدوا أكبر عدد من الأصوات في هذا التصويت .. لتصبح المكافأة على الشكل التالي :
• vBulletinClub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71): تمديد سنة واحدة لترخيص المنتدى
• juicyduff.com (http://www.forum.juicyduff.com/): تمديد سنة واحدة لترخيص المنتدى
• vBulletin-Style.com (http://www.vbulletin-style.com/?styleid=2): تمديد سنة واحدة لترخيص المنتدى
• GamesForum.com (http://www.gamesforum.com/): تمديد سنة واحدة لترخيص المنتدى
• TalkPanic.com (http://www.talkpanic.com/): تمديد سنة واحدة لترخيص المنتدى
فأتمنى من مدراء المنتديات الأربعة مراسلتي عبر قسم الرسائل الخاصة بإرسال رقم الرخصة المطلوب تمديدها لسنة جديدة ، أو إرسال رقم الرخصة برسالة خاصة إلى ( السيد سكوت ) و إبلاغي برسالة خاصة أخرى أنه تمت المراسلة .
وأما بخصوص التبرعات بالصدقات فلا أرى من المناسب أن نجعل غيرنا يسددها عن أي منا ، بل يمكننا التبرع بشكل مباشر و دون أي إعلان ليبقى الأجر و الثواب أكبر .
فـ صدقة السر تطفئ غضب الرب .
وسأترك النقاش في أمر المسابقة للمستقبل القريب .
أكرر شكري و أطيب تمنياتي للجميع .
و العقبى لكم بالفوز .

مع التحية
الكهف

[AWS]

Scott I ask you this. Is not community part of the contest? It sickens me to see a forum that is vbulletin centric win when they have less than 100 total threads while other more established communities lose to them.
How about a rule that disallows these new communities from entering until they are a little more established.

Congrats to vbulletin club. You deserved to win.

[smackLAN]

Congrats to vBulletinClub for a well deserved win and all those who participated!

[s.molinari]

Scott I ask you this. Is not community part of the contest? It sickens me to see a forum that is vbulletin centric win when they have less than 100 total threads while other more established communities lose to them.
How about a rule that disallows these new communities from entering until they are a little more established.

Congrats to vbulletin club. You deserved to win.Hi AWS,

I doubt that would happen. I do not want to put restrictions on who can enter and who not. I do believe a board similiar to your description would have a hard time passing the nomination thread. Also, since the beginning of this contest, there has never been a board in the contest that has won and was also scarcely populated with threads, posts and users. All the boards are well frequented. If what you think might happen, does happen though, I'll promise to take your suggestion into consideration.

Scott

[Floris]

It's interesting to see how this competition has evolved, and alas my thoughts have already been mentioned. I think it's extremely unfair to say the comeptition was biased towards the Arab voters. I think in this case it just happened to be that there are a lot of Arab vBulletin owners who wanted to support the community alkahf has developed for them. Had vBulletinClub not been in the running, I strongly thing Floris's forum would have won, simply because he has a lot of "supporters" within this forum.

Nevertheless, a big congratulations to alkahf and his community :) Keep up the good work in the Arab vBulletin world! :D
That's why I think it would only be fair to give my prize to the other community :)

[Floris]

Best Regards to Everyone,

I was afraid that the winner would be announced in April Fools' Day :). Fortunately, it was announced in the third day.
Congratulations to vBulletin ..
Congratulations to all the twelve contestants.
I wish that the prize could have been split among us all. I am still willing to split it between the top five winners in the poll as follows:
• vBulletinClub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71): 1 year of free renewal for his or her owned license
• juicyduff.com (http://www.forum.juicyduff.com/): 1 year of free renewal for his or her owned license
• vBulletin-Style.com (http://www.vbulletin-style.com/?styleid=2): 1 year of free renewal for his or her owned license
• GamesForum.com (http://www.gamesforum.com/): 1 year of free renewal for his or her owned license
• TalkPanic.com (http://www.talkpanic.com/): 1 year of free renewal for his or her owned license
I would also like to ask the administrators of the other four forums to send me PM including the license that they which to renew for one year, or send a PM directly to Scott and let me know that they did so.

Regarding donations as some suggested, I would rather make a separate donation without any announcement and continue with sharing the prize with the other winners. I believe that a secret donation would gain God's love.

I wanted to comment further on the contest but I will leave the debate to the near future. Again, I would like to thank everyone and convey my best wishes to everyone for better winning next time.

Best Regards,

Alkahf


تحياتي للجميع
كنت أخشى أن يتم إعلان الفائز في 1 أبريل :) و لكن لحسن الحظ تم الإعلان في اليوم الثالث من إبريل ...
هنيئاً فيبوليتين ... هنيئاً نادي فيبوليتين ... هنيئاً لكل المتسابقين الاثني عشر الذين دخلت منتدياتهم في هذه المسابقة و كم كنت أتمنى لو أن الجائزة كانت ممكنة التقسيم على 12 لقمت باقتسامها معكم جميعاً ، و لكن يبدو أنني سأقتسمها فقط بين الخمسة الذين حصدوا أكبر عدد من الأصوات في هذا التصويت .. لتصبح المكافأة على الشكل التالي :
• vBulletinClub.com (http://www.vbulletinclub.com/index.php?styleid=71): تمديد سنة واحدة لترخيص المنتدى
• juicyduff.com (http://www.forum.juicyduff.com/): تمديد سنة واحدة لترخيص المنتدى
• vBulletin-Style.com (http://www.vbulletin-style.com/?styleid=2): تمديد سنة واحدة لترخيص المنتدى
• GamesForum.com (http://www.gamesforum.com/): تمديد سنة واحدة لترخيص المنتدى
• TalkPanic.com (http://www.talkpanic.com/): تمديد سنة واحدة لترخيص المنتدى
فأتمنى من مدراء المنتديات الأربعة مراسلتي عبر قسم الرسائل الخاصة بإرسال رقم الرخصة المطلوب تمديدها لسنة جديدة ، أو إرسال رقم الرخصة برسالة خاصة إلى ( السيد سكوت ) و إبلاغي برسالة خاصة أخرى أنه تمت المراسلة .
وأما بخصوص التبرعات بالصدقات فلا أرى من المناسب أن نجعل غيرنا يسددها عن أي منا ، بل يمكننا التبرع بشكل مباشر و دون أي إعلان ليبقى الأجر و الثواب أكبر .
فـ صدقة السر تطفئ غضب الرب .
وسأترك النقاش في أمر المسابقة للمستقبل القريب .
أكرر شكري و أطيب تمنياتي للجميع .
و العقبى لكم بالفوز .

مع التحية
الكهف
Congrats on winning, and keep the prize :)

[Floris]

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