Chat integration

[Captain_Gossip]

Hi,

I know there are different chat scripts, but this script really integrates very nice with vbulletin: http://www.123flashchat.com/

If you want to see the integration have a look at our website: www.airlinecrew.net (http://www.airlinecrew.net) The chat link is integrated in the top navigation and the statistics can be seen integrated at the bottom of the page.

Since I am also very satisfied about the assistance I got from the makers, I thought why not share it with you. Hopefully you like it!

Paul

[feldon23]

Costs $200. More than vBulletin. What a joke.

[ChyK]

I just bought it last week for $5. Does work nice.

[Captain_Gossip]

Sorry, was just trying to share a nice script. I am sure a 5 dollar script does not integrate that nice. does not have auto-log-in, etc. etc. Thanks for your kind feedback!

[feldon23]

FlashChat from TuFat.com is $5 and integrates fantastically. It has auto log-in from vBulletin, etc. etc.

[Captain_Gossip]

Well, believe it or not, I am very satisfied with it. People are able to download the chat, avoiding firewall problems, They made all customizations for me and integration. Worth the money for me.

[Wayne Luke]

Moved... Not a suggestion for the vBulletin software.

[Jose Amaral Rego]

Well, believe it or not, I am very satisfied with it. People are able to download the chat, avoiding firewall problems, They made all customizations for me and integration. Worth the money for me.

http://www.123flashchat.com/buy.html
I see that you have very deep pocket? This software is far out of reach for most people here, plus all those addon's and other things are enough to place a down payment on a car? I will stick with tufat.com FlashChat as I think it has a Help Desk feeature unlike 123flashchat, which you need http://www.123livehelp.com/buy.html to make it work or you can use what your Host provides in free scripts. I see that it is only limited support and upgrades? I like the free upgrades for life at tufat.com. ;)

[Captain_Gossip]

It is not that I have deep pockets. Our members however make donations because they like our community. In return, I try to give them the best options like vbulletin and the chatroom I suggested.

You probably all like the other script better. Fine with me. I was just trying to make a suggestion and apparently it is not appreciated. will stop doing that in the future!

All the best.

[Scott MacVicar]

I appreciated it. It's always nice to see whats out there and what most people dont realise is scalability.

The solution you pointed to has a nice java server, it probably uses very little memory and can handle a few hundred more connections than the PHP solution people are using.

[Nitro_007]

I appreciated it. It's always nice to see whats out there and what most people dont realise is scalability.

The solution you pointed to has a nice java server, it probably uses very little memory and can handle a few hundred more connections than the PHP solution people are using.
Yes its nice to see whats out there, but that price is way out IMPO.

You could get yourself a huge iRCD shell for a lot less (1000 user on a good fast stable line is around 15-20 USD) and have far more functionality and control with it, build an integrated java client ie: PjiRC open source java client, into your site and members also have the option of their own choice clients. You have full control and its also very easy to have your website(s) and irc chat room(s) interact with each other and other websites aswell.

[Scott MacVicar]

The IRC servers have there own user database, it's not like they integrate with your current site very well.

Also explaining nickserv, chanserv and memoserv. The applets out there also have all these extra features that would probably cause more confusion to some of the more basic users. Not everyone has a technical grasp as most people here do.

[Nitro_007]

The IRC servers have there own user database, it's not like they integrate with your current site very well.

Also explaining nickserv, chanserv and memoserv. The applets out there also have all these extra features that would probably cause more confusion to some of the more basic users. Not everyone has a technical grasp as most people here do.
I did not say the ircd server integrates altho I am sure it could be made to, most ircd's have some form of mysql capability even if its via an extra module and most ircd delevopers are unlikely to charge anywhere near that for a custom userDB integration for mysql.

The java clients can very easily integrate with both your server/chatrooms and vbulletin. There are hordes of freely available scripts out there that can make an irc chatroom interact with your website and vice versa and thrid party websites. For an ircd server which uses password protection you would have no need to ever mention chanserv nickserv etc.
These extra terms are also really only needed by those who become regular irc visitors to your server/rooms and the extra terms will become natural to the member during the time spent in irc, if your server is publicly open that is.

I am also pretty sure a java server is also going to use a whole lot more memory compared to an iRCD package that is designed for the job and has been in development for far longer. iRCD's are also designed to link by means of Hubs and Slaves meaning if your membership is really succseful its no real issue to expand the irc capabiltiy and redundancy again with little expense.

I am not saying the product isnt good, however @ 1600 USD for a 1000 connection licence is rather a lot of dough when really its only advantage I can see is you can take it further by having videa chat integrated aswell. But I dont see that that one major feature really out weighs the 1000's of other features that can be freely added to an irc setup.

Of course its all about what you want, just impo there are still times even today when eye candy is less. I know which way I would spend my money.

I also question the legality of its inbuilt message history log system and privacy laws. I doubt many who install this 123flashchat would even consider stating to their members who enter that everything they type/say is recorded. It would only be the select few websites who would not breach privacy laws and had good reason to have all messages logged. As this is an advanced means of telecomunication im sure its required to state under the DPA that conersations are recorded, just as when you telephone any major company it is announced when its company practice to do so. Just like all premises that carry surveilance equipment in many countries today need to pay a DPA licence fee if that survielance system has recording capability and visitors msut be aware by means of prominent signs stating the fact.

[xjuliox]

What doesn't intergrate with me is the price of the chat program. I can bet that everything that program does. Flashchat does it as well like filesharing, 50 members per room, unlimited chat rooms and on...

[lilybony]

I also question the legality of its inbuilt message history log system and privacy laws. I doubt many who install this 123flashchat would even consider stating to their members who enter that everything they type/say is recorded. It would only be the select few websites who would not breach privacy laws and had good reason to have all messages logged. As this is an advanced means of telecomunication im sure its required to state under the DPA that conersations are recorded, just as when you telephone any major company it is announced when its company practice to do so. Just like all premises that carry surveilance equipment in many countries today need to pay a DPA licence fee if that survielance system has recording capability and visitors msut be aware by means of prominent signs stating the fact.

About the legality,thank you for your suggestion.
An idea come to my mind .I'm just wondering what can us do on the internet then ?? ?
when you open a website,it seems your IP might be recorded . when you enter a forum ,you registered and the forum have your name ,even password to be recorded, your email and somehting like that as well. Maybe you 'd like to use PM,it's private message,is it safe? sorry , your PM aslo can be viewed by the forum owener/admin/hacker///..........So I realize it's a common sense to know that your personal message might be recorded when you online. Not only the chat product itself.
And ,the point is 123 flash chat it's a compnay who do chat program to forum-owner/website-owner,not to end-line user, so if you have a site you 'd better to announce the private legality.Right?

[feldon23]

I also question the legality of its inbuilt message history log system and privacy laws. I doubt many who install this 123flashchat would even consider stating to their members who enter that everything they type/say is recorded. It would only be the select few websites who would not breach privacy laws and had good reason to have all messages logged. It's a good thing you're not a lawyer, cause you would have lost case after case.

There is no privacy on the Internet. If you post or chat on my website, there is no law that prevents me from saving what you posted/wrote. By typing in a chatroom, you are submitting text to my website, which I am now the legal owner of.

I save every chat log because A) I have a bad memory and B) If one of the main people associated with my website come online, I usually post chat logs with their comments along with the comments of everyone else in the chat. I certainly do not need their permission to do so. Such a law would be chilling and disastrous to forums and online chats.

Next time read up on the facts before posting such obvious B.S.

[HenrikHansen]

Captain Gossip, your chat looks great, congralutions.:cool:


The chat seems to be a natural part of the site and not a plugin.
In my opinion, worth any penny.

A large number of busy forums with a large number of members
can easily spend 200 dollars.

[feldon23]

This topic has clearly passed its sell by date.

[eSology]

I started out with Tufat $5 FlashChat. Integrated nicely with vBulletin; however, if you have a active community with many members coming and going Tufat sucks. I have a dedicated server with no other sites on it but vBulletin and chat. Besides myself I had other admins look into why FlashChat was bouncing members when we got 70+ in the room. FlashChat would crash, and (oh BTW) my bandwidth went through the roof because of the way FlashChat connects. $5 is nothing for what you get. Don't get me wrong, FlashChat is a nice piece of gear for a small chat room.

Then tried various other things to include SigmaChat, IRC, etc, etc. Firewall issues galore. Many of my members are behind firewalls that block 6667 and redirected ports. That is one are that was nice with FlashChat because almost everyone could get in. I then moved to RealChat which is Java server and Java Client. Stable, moderated chat, and it integrates very well. I do have some issues like heavy load on client side and lack of ability to scroll back far enough. The developer is great though and the price wasn't to bad at $699. With RealChat my bandwidth drop significantly and so did the load on mySql.

I did look at 123flashchat and may go back and look again. I also have been looking at userplane and digichat. I need something robust that can handle many clients under a heavy load. Who will the winner be? The jury is still out.

[Concrete Angel]

Ok, I'm gonna put my 2 cents in.


123FlashChat is nice and I like it alot, I have the demo of 123FlashChat, it has all the features but the only thing is the server resets every 10 mins.

Now I love DigiChat, its a little expensive but I like it.

Userplane Lags, cause it uses Macromedia FlashPlayer, so it lags heavily.


Now I know how DigiChat runs and its great. I Mod Gay Chat on a site, and I use 123FlashChat on my site.

Both of these chats are great and fully moderated. But if I had the money to get one of them, is woudl be DigiChat.:D

[Floris]

The plus about an ircd is that if the site is down the users can still be a community online :)

[Transverse Styles]

Please check out www.flasherize.com (http://www.flasherize.com) for the sleekest chat software. Integration with vBulletin is free and supported.

Version 2 will have dozens of more features and I'm almost done developing it.

Thanks for looking.

[feldon23]

Welcome, Guest. Currently you are not registered with us and therefore can not purchase any products. Click here to order! (http://www.flasherize.com/?act=purchase) Is that really the first message you want to display to first-time visitors to the site? I hate that sh*t. Making it harder to buy stuff is the quickest way to lose sales. People should feel welcomed and able to access every bit of information you're willing to share about the product without "Registering". Then the purchase process should have as few steps as possible.