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harmor
Sat 26th Nov '05, 3:01am
If I purchase a vbulletin can I use a nulled version?

I don't plan on doing this but I'm just asking as a "what if".

whitetigergrowl
Sat 26th Nov '05, 3:48am
That makes zero sense. Why would you want to use a nulled version after you have bought it?

And the answer to your question is no. You would need to download and overwrite the files with the bought version. Not to say it wouldn't possibly cause errors either. Of course the only reason I can see for this question is if you are already using a nulled version or know someone that is.

Using nulled software is a big gamble. Just because it says 'null', doesn't mean there isn't coding in it that doesn't give a backdoor to the site its being used on, to the people that nulled it in the first place. Not only is using nulled software a huge legal risk, it's a huge security risk as well.

Reeve of Shinra
Sat 26th Nov '05, 4:00am
I agree completely *nod*

ManagerJosh
Sat 26th Nov '05, 4:23am
You actually risk losing your license should it be discovered you are using a nulled version.

harmor
Sat 26th Nov '05, 6:26am
well thankyou

The question just came to mind and I thought I ask for the heck of it.

Acid Burn
Sat 26th Nov '05, 3:36pm
What if say the nulification was just the removalof the version checker in the admin cp so it loaded quicker? especially if vbulletin.com was down

ManagerJosh
Sat 26th Nov '05, 5:20pm
What if say the nulification was just the removalof the version checker in the admin cp so it loaded quicker? especially if vbulletin.com was down
That's not a nullification. That's just removing the call home.

KimmiKat
Sun 27th Nov '05, 3:24am
Adding to Manager Josh's comment, as long as you got a legit license. Some license holders will do that when they install a vB board on a intranet since the call-home thingy may get intercepted by the intranet's firewall.

What if say the nulification was just the removalof the version checker in the admin cp so it loaded quicker? especially if vbulletin.com was down

Reaktor7
Wed 30th Nov '05, 8:27am
From what i understand there is actually no problem with running a nullified version, yes it does seem rediculous but IIRC as long as you have a valid license and your domain is listed on the vb customer area thingo then I personally cant see why vb would have a problem

Not saying i would do it, and I haven't come across it in a while, but i can remember talking to the piratereports guy a while back and I think thats what he said - or maybe I misunderstood him.

Colin F
Wed 30th Nov '05, 11:27am
Technically you could run a nulled version if you have a license for it and have set the URL correctly in your members area.
Be advised though, that you won't receive vBulletin support if you aren't using the original files, some hosts check for nulled versions, and nulled versions are known to have security holes.

So I'd say the advantages of using the original files are rather big.

ismael66
Mon 7th Aug '06, 7:45am
Technically you could run a nulled version if you have a license for it and have set the URL correctly in your members area.
Be advised though, that you won't receive vBulletin support if you aren't using the original files, some hosts check for nulled versions, and nulled versions are known to have security holes.
So I'd say the advantages of using the original files are rather big.
But i think its elligal to use a nulled version of vbulletin...anyway its a big risk though!

Paul M
Mon 7th Aug '06, 8:08am
If you have a licence, and hence the proper files, why would you want to run a "nulled" version, it makes no sense at all.

ismael66
Mon 7th Aug '06, 8:43am
exactly...something goes wrong here

Colin F
Mon 7th Aug '06, 8:58am
This is quite old...

Some people chose to stay with their nulled files because they're hacked to bits and they don't want to redo that.
It seems I was mistaken though. Please only use the original files with each license.

bluecafe
Thu 11th Jan '07, 3:30am
if anyone don't buy the script and useing nulled version,there are any problem?

ManagerJosh
Thu 11th Jan '07, 3:38am
Put your URL here (http://www.vbulletin.com/piracy.php) to discover what will happen :)

bluecafe
Thu 11th Jan '07, 3:41am
but how i can know that a site is running in nulled version??and what you can do?:)

ManagerJosh
Thu 11th Jan '07, 3:47am
Again, put the URL in there to find out :)

bluecafe
Thu 11th Jan '07, 3:50am
bro have a question if anyone use 3.5.3 nulled version will you take anything to protect this?and if a hester who has deticated server and run nulled version on his server can you take any step to stop this...

thanks

Colin F
Thu 11th Jan '07, 4:22am
Yes, we can and will.

bluecafe
Thu 11th Jan '07, 4:31am
ok, i have sent some site name which have no licence(i think).but if anyone has deticated server(own)or hosting site on offshore hosting ...and run nulled version can you portect.don't think you can do...

Quillz
Thu 11th Jan '07, 6:33am
if anyone don't buy the script and useing nulled version,there are any problem?
I don't understand what you're asking. Are you asking if you can use a nulled version without a license? If so, the answer is no.

---MAD---
Thu 11th Jan '07, 7:05am
ok, i have sent some site name which have no licence(i think).but if anyone has deticated server(own)or hosting site on offshore hosting ...and run nulled version can you portect.don't think you can do...
Could take you to court :).

ComputerVitals
Thu 11th Jan '07, 1:14pm
Could Jelsoft take a person to court for using a nulled version?
I would assume so. But would they?
I guess it depends on the person/company and if it's worth the time and money to do so.

It's easier for Jelsoft to talk with the hosting company and have the site disabled and give that user a change to purchase a copy.

Andy Huang
Thu 11th Jan '07, 1:41pm
Here's a few facts:
1) You cannot use any version of the software without a license.
2) You void all your warranty and support by using ANY version of the software other than the one you obtained via members area here.
3) You void all your warranty and support by editing the version of the software you downloaded via members area.
4) Nulled version have a lot of known security issues which I will not outline. By using them (which is illegal in 99% of the case), you open your forum, and everything associated with it up to hackers and malicious users.
5) Your host may close your account (this applies to dedicated/colocated servers in datacenters) when they notice you are housing illegal software using their bandwidth, even if you are rightfully licensed.
6) Jelsoft can, have been, and always will take appropriate legal actions against those using vBulletin illegally.



Long story short? Avoid the hassle, buy a license, and use only the software you get via member's area. If you cannot afford it, there are other legal alternatives that are free/cheaper for you; because you definetly cannot afford the legal expenses that may incur.

Also, thread like this should be closed... because there is really no "if" or "but" in this situation... Just don't even think about it ;)

Tommy12345
Thu 11th Jan '07, 6:20pm
I do not see any bugs yet with vbulliten, give them the credit and buy it instead of downloading the free null version, they deserve credit for having a fine product and should be rewarded for their hard work to improve the board.

I bought a script a few years ago which was badly written, rip off, makes you want to get revenge..by.. They also later on, zend encript the admin section, i had bought an older version and took me along time to reverse engineer what they did to the new version. The script is called _ _ _ _ _ _ _

simsim
Fri 12th Jan '07, 3:22am
Reading some of the questions on this thread, now I completely understand those who use problematic encoders to protect their assets! Despite the moral side, if I was able to use a nulled version of vB & be 100% sure nobody will discover me, I'll just buy it as a reward for Jelsoft for making such a perfect software.

Quillz
Fri 12th Jan '07, 12:51pm
Could Jelsoft take a person to court for using a nulled version?
I would assume so. But would they?
I guess it depends on the person/company and if it's worth the time and money to do so.

It's easier for Jelsoft to talk with the hosting company and have the site disabled and give that user a change to purchase a copy.
Considering using a nulled version w/o a license is a breach of their intellectual property, they could take you to court. However, I doubt this has happened very often, as almost all potential court cases never actually go to trial, and are settled privately. Not to mention that many times, the people who are distributing nulled versions tend to be in countries where are little to no copyright enforcement laws.

JakeS
Fri 12th Jan '07, 3:19pm
That makes zero sense. Why would you want to use a nulled version after you have bought it?

And the answer to your question is no. You would need to download and overwrite the files with the bought version. Not to say it wouldn't possibly cause errors either. Of course the only reason I can see for this question is if you are already using a nulled version or know someone that is.

Using nulled software is a big gamble. Just because it says 'null', doesn't mean there isn't coding in it that doesn't give a backdoor to the site its being used on, to the people that nulled it in the first place. Not only is using nulled software a huge legal risk, it's a huge security risk as well.Not every null has this backdoor, most don't, besides even if you use a null theres one big fat way of telling if its a null.

Chousho
Fri 12th Jan '07, 6:46pm
Not every null has this backdoor, most don't, besides even if you use a null theres one big fat way of telling if its a null. Checking the JS? Umm, odd error just happened (instead of seeing line breaks, 2
tags just came up in the window.)

AnarkoPunx
Sat 10th Mar '07, 1:05pm
Could take you to court :).

vBulletin is not a ****ing multinational like Mcdonald or Wal-mart wtf they'd lose more money than they would gain taking millions of peoples to court. and if there was money to gain i don't think they would send you the nice and polite e-mail asking you to remove nulled vb.

best they can do is send a scary paper from a lawyer but it won't go farther. They could do it on a few cases in the USA but unless you have a big company with trademarks and all and you're using a pirated copy it might be rentable for them.

But ffs you guys seriously think vBulletin has 50 lawyers at their services and they send them to the four corner of the worlds to take peoples to court for a........ forum ? lol

Zachery
Sat 10th Mar '07, 1:08pm
vBulletin is not a ****ing multinational like Mcdonald or Wal-mart wtf they'd lose more money than they would gain taking millions of peoples to court. and if there was money to gain i don't think they would send you the nice and polite e-mail asking you to remove nulled vb.

best they can do is send a scary paper from a lawyer but it won't go farther. They could do it on a few cases in the USA but unless you have a big company with trademarks and all and you're using a pirated copy it might be rentable for them.

But ffs you guys seriously think vBulletin has 50 lawyers at their services and they send them to the four corner of the worlds to take peoples to court for a........ forum ? lol
So you are aware, vBulletin is a trademarked name and our software is Copyrighted, if you think as far as it goes is sending you an email you're abit off on that :)