vBulletin 2.0 RELEASE CANDIDATE 1 Released

[John]

Discuss away! We're nearly there!

Put questions/bugs/feedback in the correct forum please!

John

[eva2000]

this is great i'll upgrade as soon as i have a low user count on my vb for today :D

[klisis]

Phew. another smooth upgrade.

[eva2000]

yep upgrade went smoothly here as well.. no all i need to do is revert all templates and redo the customisation hehe :(

[Nicholas Brown]

Few things...

1. If you havent upgraded to RC1, what the hell not? :cool:

2. If you have upgraded but havent looked at the admin yet - get there - they've grooved it up.

3. You will love the new admin - its funkier :p

[klisis]

You know, I always have very hard time clicking on "Continue to next step". It'd kill me if a database error comes up. "If" of course :cool:

[Kier]

Took me all weekend to 'groove-up' the CP, but I think you'll agree it was worth it :)

[klisis]

Originally posted by Kier
Took me all weekend to 'groove-up' the CP, but I think you'll agree it was worth it :)

Oh my my, my dear, Kier. You work on Weekend? Did John force you to work? Tell us the turth! ;)

[MattR]

Excellent! When can we expect 2.1? :)

[eva2000]

Originally posted by mrogish
Excellent! When can we expect 2.1? :) LOL... matt give them a break j/k ;)

[MattR]

Originally posted by eva2000
LOL... matt give them a break j/k ;)

Hehehe -- I was just kidding.. I can't wait for 2.0 to go gold so I can play with it! :D

[Chris Schreiber]

Another smooth upgrade and kudos to all those involved!

[Menno]

it might be handy to post the error that came with the message (look at the source of the error message page)

[Jisung]

Error msg is same as eiko.



Database error in vBulletin Control Panel: Invalid SQL: ALTER TABLE pollvote ADD
INDEX (userid,pollid)
mysql error: Column 'userid' is used with UNIQUE or INDEX but is not defined as
NOT NULL
mysql error number: 1121
Date: Tuesday 17th of April 2001 05:31:54 PM
Script: /forums/admin/upgrade6.php?step=2

:(:confused:

[Jisung]

Just changed userid and pollid from Null to Not Null and upgrading performed well.
Any problem if I do so?

[s.molinari]

Originally posted by Jisung
Just changed userid and pollid from Null to Not Null and upgrading performed well.
Any problem if I do so?

Hello Jisung,

I suggest you ask your question in the vB2.0 questions forum. It will get answered faster there.

Scott

[Deaths_Calling]

NOOOO my ftp isnt working at the moment so i cant upload :( i feel like crying:( i supose ill have to wait again....

[klisis]

Originally posted by Deaths_Calling
NOOOO my ftp isnt working at the moment so i cant upload :( i feel like crying:( i supose ill have to wait again....

You know you could always use telnet or SSH.

[julius]

UPGRADE6

Altering Table Structure (pollvotes) ....
There seems to have been a slight problem with the database. Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser

Database error in vBulletin Control Panel: Invalid SQL: ALTER TABLE pollvote ADD INDEX (userid,pollid)
mysql error: Column 'userid' is used with UNIQUE or INDEX but is not defined as NOT NULL
mysql error number: 1121
Date: Tuesday 17th of April 2001 08:12:31 AM
Script: /bbbboards/admin/upgrade6.php?step=2

I changed the columns pollvote and pollid in NOT NULL, and all went well.

Was that I made correct?

[SNA]

PLEAAASE dont HARDCODE the width of the icons ... that damn width=15 height=15 is a pain when you have to remove it after each upgrade...

Everything else works PERFECTLY :)

[eiko]

I REALLY REALLY want a fix! (see earlier post in this thread please)

I'm dying here!

[Hooper]

This release fixed a few minor layered table loading problems that I was having. The update went off without a hitch. ( Didn't back up, oooooooh, living on the edge.)

Seems faster now that it is loading correctly with layered tables.

Jelsoft, I am floored with the new control panel. Most excellent.

Thank You,
GimmeTech

[GameGalaxy]

I ran into this same problem with the not null, I upgraded from beta 3 all the way.

But I used phpmyadmin to edit those 2 fields and it worked fine.

[MovieJeff]

Altering Table Structure (pollvotes) ....
There seems to have been a slight problem with the database. Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser

I'm upgrading from version 5 beta and have uploaded ALL the files in the "upload" directory after un-ziping it. Does anyone else get this and how do you fix it? Details please if anyone knows.

Thanks,

Jeff

[RobAC]

Jeff,

Check the 2.0 questions or suggestions Forums. Several other people have had this problem as well.

I upgraded but didn't have this problem.

[Fred]

Seems like no bug reports yet :). Just a bunch of people that are new to vBulletin having some problems upgrading, thats normal. Most newbies do have some minor issues setting up, but once familiar with it, are good.

Can't wait for the gold edition Jelsoft, I'll be upgrading within the first minute it comes out:).

[Brian]

Has this new version or recent versions addressed and reduced the rather large search engine index size caused by 2.0+ versions..

-Brian

[chrispadfield]

Originally posted by Brian
Has this new version or recent versions addressed and reduced the rather large search engine index size caused by 2.0+ versions..

-Brian

that is a feature not a bug.

[Brian]

lol if you can convince me thats a feature I bet you could sell ice cream in Alaska :)

[tubedogg]

it's a feature. You can't create an index of every word between mincharacters and maxcharacters without getting a huge table in the database. it's just not possible.

[Tom]

In order to benefit from these new features, it it strongly recommended that you revert as many of your custom templates back to the default and then re-customize them, or at least carefully study the default templates, and make the appropriate changes to your custom templates.I assume what you mean is that if we have made changes to any templates that those templates won't be updated. So the question is how do I revert my templates back to the defaults so that the upgrade will update them?

[Mike Sullivan]

Tom -- click the revert to original link next to the template name.

[tubedogg]

Simply click the "revert" link next to each of your customized templates.

[Hooper]

Anyone know how I would take a login link I made and have it not show once logged in? It's basically an anchor to the bottom of the page where you log in at. I would'nt mind if it vanished once logged on.

Love the release candidate 1. It works great.

GimmeTech

[Tom]

Originally posted by Ed Sullivan
Tom -- click the revert to original link next to the template name. Thanks!

[tubedogg]

If you are using RC1, it should say "Revert to original". If you are using beta 5, click Delete. Make sure you are not deleting any templates that you created - just reverting ones that came with vB. Ones that you created will appear at the top of the list.

[eiko]

Originally posted by Fred
Seems like no bug reports yet :). Just a bunch of people that are new to vBulletin having some problems upgrading, thats normal. Most newbies do have some minor issues setting up, but once familiar with it, are good.

Can't wait for the gold edition Jelsoft, I'll be upgrading within the first minute it comes out:).

Wow, must be great to be so experienced! I bow before you.

1) The prior beta installed and worked perfectly.
2) RC1 did not.
3) Many have posted the SAME problem.
4) "Minor" issues? Not.

Rather it's a bug or not, it's a real problem. I'm sure that Jelsoft will just blow-off all the "newbies" that are buying their product, in the comfort of knowing that Pro's like you can handle the install.

Dig the avatar... lay-off it a little before your next post.
(j/k!)

[Kier]

Originally posted by eiko
I'm sure that Jelsoft will just blow-off all the "newbies" that are buying their product, in the comfort of knowing that Pro's like you can handle the install.

You have made the point I was about to make perfectly. This is not a product that we have certified to be stable, secure or bug-free. If you want a version of vBulletin that is all of those, then you should have downloaded vBulletin 1.16.

'Newbies' and people without experience should not be attempting to install this software at this stage. This is made clear in the members' area.

After we declare vBulletin 2.0 to be complete and finalized, and stamp it with a 'stable' label, then you can come and shout at us when the installer fails.

[RobAC]

eiko,

kier pretty much said what I was going to say....if you do not have a fair amount of experience with php or mysql, then you shouldn't be installing a beta version of this software. By doing so, you are agreeing to the fact (which is clearly stated in the Members Area) that Jelsoft is under no obligation to give you a helping hand with the beta version of the software. However, they will help you with the stable released version which is currently 1.1.6

With that said, I have, on the other hand, found the Jelsoft staff and members that normally reside here, to be extremely helpful. Sometimes it takes a little while to get a response, but that's because everyone has a life outside vBulletin too. A simple "bump" or two, and you can at least be pointed in the right direction.

[GameGalaxy]

Jeeez

I posted just to let you know there was a problem with it for more then just one person.

It was a simple fix for me to change them to not null, but it might have saved people time who ran into it too.

I think all of us that run 2.0 right now understand there are small little things that crop up, but if we kept our mouths shut this would make it into the release.

[chrispadfield]

Originally posted by Brian
lol if you can convince me thats a feature I bet you could sell ice cream in Alaska :)

Well it is simple really, the searchindex speeds up performance of searches, there is not really much more to it. You have options;

i) as it is = faster
ii) as it was = slower

Yes it takes up a bit more diskspace to do it in the database, but diskspace is cheap (what 20GB for $200 and the search index probably takes up 5MB (i have no idea how much exactly)) so that is what ... $0.05 - um... or instead we can buy a bigger processor and more ram, for perhaps $500. Really there is not much more to it than that.

p.s. it also allows for more features in the search as well.

[MattR]

MySQL has some nifty full-text search algorithms they are working on. Perhaps when they get all the kinks worked out it could be something usefull?

[Chris Schreiber]

Originally posted by mrogish
MySQL has some nifty full-text search algorithms they are working on. Perhaps when they get all the kinks worked out it could be something usefull?

Actually Ed and I have already done some extensive testing of the FULL-TEXT indexes in MySQL 3.23, and the results were promising....

The test board was Me2Be's board, which is a Dual PIII 900 or so with 1GB of RAM. Full text index on (title,pagetext) on the post table containing 400,000 posts. Query to add full text index took 30 minutes to run.

Search returning 138 posts takes .02 seconds to run.
Search returning 100,000 posts takes 18.59 seconds to run.

"What kind of search would return 100,000 posts?"
A lot more than you think because full text search doesn't support boolean operators.
A search for "vbulletin forum" will *always* return *any* post containing vbulletin or forum.

Until MySQL 4.0, which supports boolean operators, I highly doubt you'll see a good version of the full text search integrated into vB.

You can read alot more about this search discussion here: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10566

[eiko]

Maybe I wasn't clear in my post... the quote about Jelsoft was NOT to indicate that more should be done than is. I fully understand this is beta, and simply posted an issue that I and others have run into.

My point was the shot at "Newbies" by another user with the large ego. I'm sure he took the same crap when he was a Newbie. How soon we forget.

My only issue with RC1 is that beta 2.05 installed and ran perfectly, therefore, I wanted to indicate that there is an issue with the installer in RC1, as others have. The member posts as if only newbies have this problem, which I doubt seriously.

Yes, I am looking for a fix that I can implement in the meantime (prior to gold code) so I can continue to evaluate Vb prior to moving my 7,000 member UBB.

Sorry for seeming impatiient, gotta get off the UBB, speed and the massive transfer each month (65 GIGS) is killing me.

[Brian]

Actually my search index and word file grew to about 150megs or so while the rest of my vb was about 30 megs :(

I really never saw any problems with the v1 search stuff? What were the problems with it?

-Brian

[tubedogg]

nm

[Freddie Bingham]

Please stop arguing over this as nothing is being accomplished.

There is a problem with certain versions of mysql refusing to place an index on a table defined as NULL. This has been fixed in the next versions, beit RC2 or the release.

[Raptor]

I still find that the table settings are incorrect around the footer

I still have to change the code in:

header
footer
forumdisplaybit
forumhome
showthread
standarderror

where the $footer requires

this: </td></tr></table> moving from about midway thru the code to just above $footer

This is only for boards with custom headers and footers that use tables

Ive seen others commenting on this since Beta 3 (everything previous to 2 was fine)

Shouldnt this be sorted by now ? my template editing would be virtually zero in future if this was sorted

[Sire]

ON SCREEN:
vBulletin Upgrade Script

(Note: Please be patient as some parts of this may take quite some time.)

We have detected that you have already tried to run the upgrade script. You will not be able to proceed unless you revert to a vB 1.1.5 database.



IN EMAIL:
Database error in vBulletin Upgrade: Invalid SQL: CREATE TABLE pollvote (
pollvoteid INT UNSIGNED NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
pollid INT UNSIGNED,
userid INT UNSIGNED,
votedate INT UNSIGNED,
voteoption INT UNSIGNED NOT NULL,
PRIMARY KEY (pollvoteid),
KEY userid (userid, pollid)
)
mysql error: Column 'userid' is used with UNIQUE or INDEX but is not defined as NOT NULL
mysql error number: 1121
Date: Wednesday 18th of April 2001 09:27:15 PM
Script: /admin/upgrade1.php?step=2

[Sire]

be sure you upgrade to the vb2.0 config, the config.php.new should replace the config.php from 1.1.x

[Sire]

I modified upgrade1.php pollvote table to add ' NOT NULL '. Upgrade completed without error then.

Next:
Emptied the Search Index as recommended in the admin. Re-Indexing began and mysql overloaded the server at some point during reindexing.

My server: 1 gig ram, 2 pentium iii 733mhz cpu's.

[Hooper]

I installed the RC1 and like it. It was an upgrade from beta 5. Now I have heard that it is applausable to revert to the default templates and then remake the customazations. Is this a necessity?

I mean, I have my site looking like I would like it too. Is there any fixes in the templates that would make it worth while to redo all of this for? Any fixes that actually fixed functions? If not, is there any reason for reverting to the default templates?

I have noticed that the time at the bottom of the forums is incorrect until I log in. Is this maybe a pass through problem that was corrected in the template upgrades or is the time supposed to show differrent until you log in?

Thank You!
Hooper

[tubedogg]

The time shows GMT if you are not logged in.

If you have customized templates that were customized before beta 4, you may want to consider reverting them. The templates underwent a massive redoing in beta 4, to make them HTML4 compliant and add a standard indenting system to make them easier to understand. Other than that, just the templates that have had changes made to them (listed in the threads where John or James announces a release) need to be looked on an individual basis.

[Hooper]

Hi Tube,

Well, I just bought vB. I started off with beta5. So, if there is no reason to upgrade my templates, I would rather not. Unless of course someone was to tell me that there were some variables not getting passed through and the templates actually fixed bugs. Otherwise, No need to redo all my hard work.

Hooper

[tubedogg]

There are four templates that really changed. Those four I would take a look at. (They are forumdisplay_announcementsdisplay, icq, posbit_attachmentimage, and postbit_attachment.)

Other than that, if you have a lot of Netscape visitors, you will want to consider looking at the templates. They apparently fixed some issues with Netscape borders and table widths. (To be quite honest, up until about two weeks ago I used Netscape exclusively, and I didn't notice any problem, but...) That would be the only "bug fixes" that you would get from reverting and recustomizing.

[Kier]

I would strongly advise everyone to revert to the RC1 templates and re-customize. They are dramatically better than the beta 4 templates, and are a good deal more flexible and easy to work with via the styles CP.

The changes to the RC1 templates are just as widespread as the beta3->beta4 template changes.

[Steve Machol]

FWIW I upgraded from beta5 to RCI, re-did my templates and check the board with Netscape 4.72. It was a dramatic improvement over how they looked with beta5. Very nice job!

[RobAC]

I agree with Kier. I went through all my templates tonight and reverted back to the originals (RC1) as the quality of coding/HTML is lightyears ahead from what it was before. I actually found that a lot of my own personal fixes and improvements in coding were already done by Jelsoft staff in the upgraded templates so I don't have to rehack much to keep my forums looking the way I want. In fact, I'm happy enough with how they are now that I'm going to wait till the final release before hacking anything else.

Nice job Jelsoft! I do have one small request though.......in forumhome.....replace valign="top" with valign="middle" for the on/off icon in the first left hand column. (It looks better IMHO) ;) ;)

[pauliu]

I don't have problem for the upgrade6.php, but when I do Update Thead Info, I got this warning message

[B]Warning: Using scalar variable $firstusername as an array or object in /home/pauliu/reefclub.org/forum/admin/misc.php on line 243[/B}

Is it nornal?

Paul

[Raptor]

holy crap what did you guys do to this ?

my server load is virtually zero and its lightening fast.

with 21,000 members and a million hits a month thats no small feat

WELL DONE !

[Hooper]

Ok, I reverted back and now I get this when I view with netsrcape.

"[GTForums » Powered by vBulletin version 2.0.0 Release Candidate 1 » Copyright ©2000, 2001, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.] GTForums > Lobby > GTLobby"

This is what I view in te forums. Waz up?

Hooper

[Kier]

Ack... that's stupid NS6 not being able to deal with this:


<img src="bla" alt="bla
bla
bla">

Edit your navbar template to remove the copyright text. Just make sure you leave it in the footer template.

I have already made the necessary modifications to the templates for the next release.

[Sire]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can keep the server from becoming overloaded at times (especially with pconnect) ? :(

Dual cpu 733mhz (pIII) - 1 GB ram

http://www.darkforum.com/status.php

[eva2000]

Originally posted by Sire
Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can keep the server from becoming overloaded at times (especially with pconnect) ? :(

Dual cpu 733mhz (pIII) - 1 GB ram

http://www.darkforum.com/status.php take this to the server config forum - http://vbulletin.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14 :)

[Sire]

Sorry, I'm new to this (obviously) and had just managed to upgrade to the vb2 where I started to notice the trouble. Thanks!

[Raptor]

Originally posted by Sire
Sorry, I'm new to this (obviously) and had just managed to upgrade to the vb2 where I started to notice the trouble. Thanks!

can you send me that status.php script please ?

raptor@psx.co.uk

[Sire]

vb2.0 RC1
Reply threads are not being counted. On main page it will show 'Hello..' thread, with 0 replies, but there are actually maybe 3 replies.

Not sure if this is a vb2.0 RC1 error, or a mysql corruption.

[Fred]

I think John or someone mentioned, if your new to vBulletin, DON'T set it up. It still has tweaking to do, and they would perfer users that have experience in vBulletin to use it instead.

[Sire]

Originally posted by Fred
I think John or someone mentioned, if your new to vBulletin, DON'T set it up. It still has tweaking to do, and they would perfer users that have experience in vBulletin to use it instead.

Clarification: I'm new to this forum. My apology was for posting in the wrong area. I'm not new to php or sql, and had been running v1.1.4 for a month until recently upgrading to the RC1. Additionally, I'd been following the vb2.0 beta's and waited until the RC to do the upgrade.

You've been very helpful, thank you.

[PaintballDude]

I upgraded and it was flawless.

BTW, how do I get this cool setup that you guys have here with the buttons and the smilies and the little thingies....laaaadyyy

(Jerry Lewis, for those who didnt get that...)

Thanks!

[RobAC]

I have to pass along more kudos to the vB dev. team for doing an outstanding job with the control panel. I remember back when I upgraded to the first 2.0 beta from 1.1.6, I was bummed that the control panel layout changed because I missed, and was used to, the simple layout of 1.1.6, but the new layout and features with RC1 are awesome!! Nice job!

[tiger100]

I can't wait for it. I am a mod on a number of VB's and I can't wait for new Mod powers:D

[Steve_S]

Nice work GEEKS :)

Did a new install and it was flawless.

About the only new feature I don't see is a "Wake Up Call"

</joke> :)

[thewitt]

Do a search. This one has been answered at least three times so far.

-t

[Linus]

Has any date been set for the final release of version 2.0 ??

I wanna purchase vBulletin but am waiting for the final and complete release ...

[Fred]

Why not purcahse it now? It should be out within the next week or so anyways.

[h4p3]

Perhaps he needs the UBB 6 import script ...

[mjames]

Originally posted by Linus
Has any date been set for the final release of version 2.0 ??

I wanna purchase vBulletin but am waiting for the final and complete release ...
The final version will be released very soon, it depends on if there are any new bugs found.

[Fred]

From what I've been reading over the forums, no new bugs have been found.

[slinky]

Originally posted by Linus
Has any date been set for the final release of version 2.0 ??

I wanna purchase vBulletin but am waiting for the final and complete release ...
I was thinking the same thing but then realized that I wanted to be familiar with the interface and make changes to templates so that when it is fully released I can upload and make all the edits immediately. It was a very good idea because I'm still not done with all the edits but will be able to get things up and running when it's released.... Just MHO.

[Linus]

Yeah well I realised no point getting it till the final version gets released, so I can work on all the hacks as well ...

curious but what's the next planned version ?
:D

[slinky]

Originally posted by Linus
Yeah well I realised no point getting it till the final version gets released, so I can work on all the hacks as well ...
:D

I'm talking about the basic customization, styles, etc. You can do all that without the hacks and will need to regardless of when you decide to install the hacks. It took me at least week to figure out where everything was, graphics I'd need to change, editing of some of the html which has little if anything to do with the hacks, etc. I figured that by the time I was done the release would be out. I'm right on schedule...

[Linus]

thanx for the info, will probably get it end of the wk

[MRaburn]

Our board is fairly large, averaging about 200 users online at a time. Twice now I have found that the DB has gotten rather large our server loads up quite often. Both times I pruned the DB a good bit and things seem to get better. Not sure if they are actually related, just an observation.

What I am wanting to know, is if there is a better way to choose forums to prune. We have about 20 forums or so and I have to either a. prune one at a time or b. prune all of them.

Because of all the new great features in VB, we have created some news Forums. Well these Forums I would really not want to prune ever. So I will forever be stuck with pruning one board at a time, and the pruning process is really slow. (When I pruned my board for the second time, it ran for 18 hours to clean it out, no joke.)

A feature suggestion:

Maybe have a Bullited list of the Forums you want pruned so you could check off each one you would like to do. That would make it really easy to see and work with pruning.

Thanks!
Mike
Stangnet.com

[nuno]

MRaburn:

what kinda host do i need to support all that??
200 users online!!!!!!!!
could you tell me your database size??
monthly transfer??
tx ;)

[MRaburn]

I use Dellhost.com. Its a dual 933 with 512MB RAM.

I transfer about 160gigs a month, 160K uniques a month and 5 Mil page views. its a pretty busy site. :)

Mike

[nuno]

wow!!!
thats $500 per month
i cant afford that :(

[pippo]

echo("Ciao!!");
www.altavista.com " onclick="alert('www.altavista.com');" :rolleyes:

[pippo]

www.altavista.comwww.altavista.com"

[pippo]

www.altavista.com

[tubedogg]

Hi Pippo :)

Please do your testing in [url=http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=15]this forum[url]. Thanks! :)