vBulletin 3.5 Beta Release Discussion

[Kier]

Please use this thread to discuss the release of the vBulletin 3.5 Betas.

Do not use this thread to post troubleshooting queries or bug reports. The vBulletin 3.5 Bug Tracker (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs35.php?) and vBulletin 3.5.0 forums (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=100) are available for that purpose.

[xmitchx]

Yesss! I'll try it out now :)

[Oblivion Knight]

Huzzah! Another beta down, several more to go.. ;)

[Weed]

So,

If I want to upgrade to 3.5 (once it's gold), I have to make all those template changes listed?

I might as well just revert every template and add the HTML back in again :cool:

Will there be any sort of work-around for all the template alterations? I suppose not, but worth a try. :) I know IPB (I'm not trying to *cause* anything) had a template feature where it updated existing templates for me in 1.3 (they have since removed that feature).

Any chance of that or not?

~Weed

[Zachery]

You can always compare the two templates or make the alterations that you need yourself.

[xmitchx]

I just upgrade from vB 3.5 Beta 1 using the upgrade script and it went flawlessly :)

[Nukey]

Great! I'll give it a try.

[vbcore]

Sweet :)

Thanks guys good work!

[Kusadasi-Guy]

trying to buy my second licence!
i will use 3.5b2 ;)

[Darkblade]

Good work. You guys are excellent. Now that Beta 2 is out, will there be any information on the Final (or Gold) release?

[Zachery]

When there is info, we will release it, but not a moment before :p now stop asking, please :)

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WOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

[Aros]

Nice work vBulletin, installing it now :)

[BoYagoob]

If I would like to upgrade from 3.0.7 >> 3.5.0 Gold ...

Must I do all these changes ocurred in Beta 1,2, ...etc. ?

[Zachery]

You will need to go though all of the upgrade steps, and you would need to compare your changes from 3.0.7 to the final templates.

[MGM]

Thanks for the new release Jelsoft :)

MGM out

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WOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for your purchase, enjoy installing vBulletin 3.5.0 beta 2 :)

Nice job Kier; and all the other devs. This beta release feels like a RC to me!

[Zachery]

Please post for support in the support forums. thanks

[Nukey]

Done :)

[StarBuG]

Nice One

Uploading it right now :D

StarBuG

[TTG]

Upgraded with no problems .. love the new speallcheaker :p

When I open a thread and view the quick reply box at the bottom, it has "null" already typed in there !?

[KpbICo6ou]

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[Ecron Daemon]

what? will there be a way to upgrade the 3.0.4 version of vb to a future 3.5 gold version? I mean: could I preserve only the contents of the post, the attachments, the users etc... but not the template or other modifications of the previous version?

[Zachery]

Ecron, you will be able to upgrade when you wish to vBulletin 3.5.0, to make your style work on 3.5.0 you will need to modifiy the templates or revert them.

[Jeramy]

awesome *goes to upgrade test forum*

[evssadmin]

*running upgrade from 3.5.0beta1 to 3.5.0beta2 now*
uploading files in progress..

[Mainer82]

Upgraded with no problems .. love the new speallcheaker :p

When I open a thread and view the quick reply box at the bottom, it has "null" already typed in there !?
Same for me.

[Brad.loo]

Thanks guys :)

[Floris]

Upgraded 3 of the 4 sites without a problem. Just one mysql issue with one site. Working on it :p Probably my fault. This new version is great! Good stuff :)

[AZone]

This beta release feels like a RC to me! Ahem. Does it mean the risk of getting troubles is low enough to perform production site update?

[BamaStangGuy]

Ahem. Does it mean the risk of getting troubles is low enough to perform production site update?
No its still Beta

[Nukey]

I also upgrade from Beta 1 without any problems. :) Everything seems to be running great.

One thing I did notice is that the Quick Reply box doesn't have the "switch editor mode" function like these forums.

[Mainer82]

I also upgrade from Beta 1 without any problems. :) Everything seems to be running great.

One thing I did notice is that the Quick Reply box doesn't have the "switch editor mode" function like these forums.
Did you reset all of your templates?

[Nukey]

I've reverted and updated templates..maybe it was taken out.

[Loony BoB]

I just noticed that vbulletin_quickreply.js has been changed to vbulletin_quick_reply.js, although this was not documented on the thread that states which files have been changed in the announcement thread. There is also no updated file for...
vbulletin_stdedit.js
vbulletin_wysiwyg.js
vbulletin_editor.js

Should we be deleting these files?

EDIT: Also vbulletin_moziwyg.js - however for some reason Supsect File Versions didn't even pick that one up! That's a bit odd...

[Mainer82]

I see it on my dev board. Did you clear your cache?

[Nukey]

Yeah.. how wierd. I'll post it Support Forum.

[Aerith_Freak]

I love the way this got released on a day when it's nice and sunny here in England and everyone was probably outside xD

Good stuffs.

[flstreetscene]

Is there an option for the members to choose between the two postbit styles (default and vertical)? Will the final release have such option?

[Steve Machol]

This is not a user option by default. However someone has posted a template modification that does this:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88171

[Toky0]

Good job Jelsoft. I'll upgrade to gold once it hits. Otherwise I'll stay on the 3.0.x series for now. =P

[Aerith_Freak]

I've reverted and updated templates..maybe it was taken out.

No you need to enable WYSIWYG for Quick Reply in the Admin CP, if it's set to Standard Editor - or the second Standard Editor mode, it won't show up. :)

Anyway upgrade was short and sweet and went smoothly. Good stuff.

[Darax The Good]

I can't wait for the hack integration stuff to be used by a lot of the customizer people-I can't put my board on 3.5 until this happens-I'm not installing hacks over and over again-But I'm putting the beta up on my test forum just to check it out.

[feldon23]

Ooooh. Ctrl-B, Ctrl-I, and Ctrl-U work in Quick Reply and light up depending upon context. *moan*

Now about that Quick Edit after Quick Reply. QEaQR (pronounced quaker).

[Floris]

Ahem. Does it mean the risk of getting troubles is low enough to perform production site update?
That depends per web site, I also upgraded all my production sites with it because I can afford to run the risk of being down an afternoon because of unknown bug. So far, it has always worked perfectly fine for me and any issue found was resolved within the hour (if not sooner). We do not recommend it, but it is up to you. Perhaps I also upgrade my production forum to find new bugs :p

[squall14716]

The only thing disappointing about this release is the fact that no new hooks have been added. Will more hooks be added for Beta 3?

[ianskate]

How on earth did I miss this? Either way, good job :)

Keep the beta's coming :D

[Onimua]

How on earth did I miss this? Either way, good job :)

Keep the beta's coming :D I missed this because I was sleeping. Just woke up... my first thought? "Man, it's Saturday... they wouldn't release vBulletin Beta 2 over a weekend..." :rolleyes:

I was wrong... *upgrades* :D I'm such a vB freak...

[Lurk]

Lol. Nice. I upgraded a few hours ago, but I just stopped by to reply to the discussion thread. Nice release! I like to keep up-to-date on all my software, so I check for updates frequently. It appears the improved WYSIWYG interface is the big thing here, right? :D

I wonder what's going to be in Beta 3...

[Mr_Butter]

hell yeah

[Kier]

I just noticed that vbulletin_quickreply.js has been changed to vbulletin_quick_reply.js, although this was not documented on the thread that states which files have been changed in the announcement thread. There is also no updated file for...
vbulletin_stdedit.js
vbulletin_wysiwyg.js
vbulletin_editor.js

Should we be deleting these files?

EDIT: Also vbulletin_moziwyg.js - however for some reason Supsect File Versions didn't even pick that one up! That's a bit odd...
We'll be removing those from the download package in due course.

[tinjon]

hey guys, is there any step by step upgrade guideline?
thanks.

also i think vb manual should be changed. :)

[colinmckinley]

They'll probably update the manual when 3.5 gold comes out.

[Rastus]

After going from Beta 1 to beta 2, AdminCP still shows it as being Beta 1. Is this normal?

[Kier]

After going from Beta 1 to beta 2, AdminCP still shows it as being Beta 1. Is this normal?
Hit F5 and see if it still says Beta 1. If it does, did you actually run the upgrade script, or did you just upload the Beta 2 files?

[Rastus]

I ran the upgrade script, hit F5 more than twice, still shows beta 1. actually after I saw it still said Beta 1, I went back and reran the upgrade script a second time. Same results.

[sleepyk]

ok for a decent active 100-200 post a day forum would u recomend this?


Also for the hacks i have installed they wont show with new one?

[Onimua]

ok for a decent active 100-200 post a day forum would u recomend this?


Also for the hacks i have installed they wont show with new one?
If I'm reading that right, they do not reccomend installing beta on a live forum.

[Kier]

I ran the upgrade script, hit F5 more than twice, still shows beta 1. actually after I saw it still said Beta 1, I went back and reran the upgrade script a second time. Same results.
Would you mind posting me a link to your forums via PM so I can take a look?

[sleepyk]

whoops i sewnt u a link Kier cuz i thought u ment me lol looked too fast lmao

[Rastus]

Would you mind posting me a link to your forums via PM so I can take a look?

PM sent

[Rastus]

I re-FTP'ed my files, re-ran the upgrade script and all is well now :cool:

[John Miller]

I feel beta2 is being little slower then beta1 ?
specially here on vbulletin.com forums

anyone else ?

[Zachery]

Slower how

[Shining Arcanine]

I'm uploading the files to upgrade my forums. :D

[Chroder]

I feel beta2 is being little slower then beta1 ?
specially here on vbulletin.com forums

anyone else ?
Fast as ever for me :)

[Shining Arcanine]

I haven't noticed a slow down. If anything I noticed a speed up.

[shex]

when will the final version release:)

[Onimua]

when will the final version release:)
Like what's been seed for the infinitieth time now: "When it's done."

[TCM]

Shweet. Time to upgrade. :)

[digitalpoint]

ok for a decent active 100-200 post a day forum would u recomend this?Technically it's not recommended for any production site. But I'm running it on mine (1,200+ posts/day) without any problems (other than a few outstanding minor bugs that have been confirmed in the bug tracker).


Also for the hacks i have installed they wont show with new one?Righto.

[xmitchx]

What about new hooks?

[squall14716]

What about new hooks?
There are none.

[xmitchx]

There are none.
... I see. Why? hahah Jelsoft?

[Darkblade]

What?! Beta 3 is in development now? Man I thought beta stages are done and that Beta 2 was a total bug-free version.

[noppid]

Nice job folks. Very nice improvements.

[Onimua]

Since when was anything ever bug-free? Keywords? "Beta."

[Hakkie]

What?! Beta 3 is in development now? Man I thought beta stages are done and that Beta 2 was a total bug-free version.
If it was a bugfree release, then it would have been a RC and probably even gold.

[poolking]

Ok lets spell it out for those who don't grasp the concept of a beta.

It is an unstable release that has been launched to the masses to iron out any bugs that may remain in the code, Jelsoft can only do so much testing, so may not pick every bug up, so they rely upon the masses of Jelsoft customers to test the software out as well and pick up anything that they have missed in a live environment.

So in no way shape or form are betas considered a stable release just because they've released it to the masses.

So to sum it up:

BETAS HAVE NEVER BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE STABLE RELEASES!!!!

Thank you for listening.

[AzhriaLilu]

Maybe jelsoft should put up a stickytopic explaining the term Beta :)

Beta 2 woohoo, we're getting there :D

[w4lh]

beta test

In software development, a beta test is the second phase of software testing in which a sampling of the intended audience tries the product out. (Beta is the second letter of the Greek alphabet.) Originally, the term alpha test meant the first phase of testing in a software development process. The first phase includes unit testing, component testing, and system testing. Beta testing can be considered "pre-release testing." Beta test versions of software are now distributed to a wide audience on the Web partly to give the program a "real-world" test and partly to provide a preview of the next release.

Noun1.beta software - pre-release software that has received an alpha test but still has more bugs than a regular release; "beta software is usually available only to particular users who will test it"

[mentalrz]

Great stuff :)

[joshx]

yeah but what's a beta? :D

nice work guys, looking forward to the final.

[Erwin]

What?! Beta 3 is in development now? Man I thought beta stages are done and that Beta 2 was a total bug-free version.
Read Kier's announcement about the release of Beta 2 - he said this:


Known issues exist within this version.

[Darkblade]

yeah but what's a beta? :D

nice work guys, looking forward to the final.

That's a good question you know. :D

[mentalrz]

every time i try to upgrade it takes me to vBulletin 3.0.0 Beta 3 Upgrade System


why :(?

[rambo8521]

ajax features are looking nice!

[Razasharp]

not sure if this has been asked (i did do a search for it!)

But will the final release of 3.5 be released in 'hack format' for those of us that have made many alterations to our boards? Phpbb do this with their release and I am hoping we'll get the same for vB 3.5... especially as it looks so good :-)

[Zachery]

Not sure what you mean... the changes between 3.0.x and 3.5.0 are ALL NEW FILES.

No way to do a line by line upgrade.

[southernlady]

But will the final release of 3.5 be released in 'hack format' for those of us that have made many alterations to our boards?

They won't ever release one THAT way since *officially* Jelsoft doesn't support hacks.

And to be honest, you don't want the current hacks you have in the format they are in for 3.0.7 now anyway...not for the 3.5.0 version. The hacks for the hooks/plugins are SO MUCH easier that you will be astonished. Just install on an unhacked board and go from there. Liz

[Razasharp]

Just install on an unhacked board and go from there. Liz

That means starting over :eek: some of us have spent ages modifying our boards :-(

I appreciate what you are saying Zach tho, all new files would mean it may not be possible to do it the 'hack' way...

[Hiall]

Can't wait for 3.5 gold. One step closer!

[Kaelon]

That means starting over :eek: some of us have spent ages modifying our boards :-(

I appreciate what you are saying Zach tho, all new files would mean it may not be possible to do it the 'hack' way...
Part of hacking up a vBulletin (and modifying its code) is knowing that every time there is a major revision of the software, you basically have to do it all over again. I think the hooks - while fairly limited - do wonders for the modification community in enabling those of us who want to have industry standard, stock vBulletins while also having some extra features here and there.

[Janice]

Still waiting for "Move to Folder..." in the Sent private messages. :)

[PGN]

Just wondering, does Jelsoft ever plan to change the Admin Demo to 3.5?

[digitalpoint]

*Ever*? Considering 3.5 is beta with "known issues", that doesn't seem like a really good idea to me.

[Steve Machol]

Just wondering, does Jelsoft ever plan to change the Admin Demo to 3.5?Yes, when vVB 3.5.0 final is released of course. No sense doing this with a Beta version. :)

[youradultworld]

While weeding through all of the questions and answers about when Jelsoft will do this, and when vbulletin will be able to do this, I realized I can not find easy instructions to upgrade from beta1 to beta2 of 3.5.0. I wouldn't imagine having to upgrade all of the files manually, I would hope that there is some sort of upgrade process that replaces the files that need to be replaced, but would I upload the upgrade.php, or upgrade_350b2.php and/or an .xml file?

Please just let me know the easiest way to go from beta 1 to beta 2.

Thanks,

ps. All I did was setup beta1, with myself as the admin, no other users as the software isn't really live, but now I want beta 2 which I've downloaded, but not sure what needs to be done, I don't want to overwrite all of the previous files if that isn't necessary, just a waste of time I would imagine since no changes have been made to any files.

-Chris

[digitalpoint]

You can upgrade from beta 1 to beta 2 without any problems... Just go to /install/upgrade.php (like any other version).

[mikaelweb]

upgrade from 3.0.7 to beta 2 is whit big db problems at this time to me whit all post can not be view only db error only thread can be view and i error mess like this


Database error in vBulletin 3.5.0 Beta 2:
Invalid SQL:
SELECT dateline, thumbnail_dateline, filename, filesize, visible, attachmentid, counter,
postid, IF(thumbnail_filesize > 0, 1, 0) AS hasthumbnail, thumbnail_filesize,
attachmenttype.thumbnail AS build_thumbnail, attachmenttype.newwindow
FROM attachment
LEFT JOIN attachmenttype AS attachmenttype USING (extension)
WHERE postid IN (-1,2238,2239,2240)
ORDER BY attachmentid;
MySQL Error : Unknown column 'attachmenttype.thumbnail' in 'field list'
Error Number : 1054
Date : Sunday, June 19th 2005 @ 09:07:07 PM

[Steve Machol]

Please start a new thread for troubleshooting issues.

[Drworthless]

I was wondering if I install hacks on a fresh 3.5 with the hooks system, once it goes gold I shouldn't need to reinstall any correct?

[edenx]

????????

[southernlady]

Back to the WYSIWYG discussion...what happened to the Guided Mode and Enhanced Mode buttons? And the ability to change the IMG link so that it would also ask for the text instead of assuming (and we ALL know what THAT spells) what we what a link called.

Is there a way to get that back in Beta 2? Liz

[Floris]

????????I 100% do not understand what you mean of course. You want to buy vBulletin? You can do so here: http://www.vBulletin.com/order/

[Gray Matter]

I was wondering if I install hacks on a fresh 3.5 with the hooks system, once it goes gold I shouldn't need to reinstall any correct?

I was wondering this as well... sort of.

Are our plugins all going to be saved as we upgrade, or is the point so that we can download them to a file and then re-upload once we've upgraded?

[Steve Machol]

Plugins are not overwritten when you upgrade. That is one of the advantage of Plugins over hacks.

[dreck]

Upgraded my test forum from beta1 to 2 with no problems, Thanks!

[XBit XT]

Thanks for all the hard work you guys and Gals (possibly there are some gals working at the Vbulletin development as well.) poured into making this new version a better all around softare package! I love the new Vbulletin, I backed up my forums and installed the beta on my live/running discussion communities with no problems at all so far.

[Drworthless]

I was wondering this as well... sort of.

Are our plugins all going to be saved as we upgrade, or is the point so that we can download them to a file and then re-upload once we've upgraded?

Thanks for the reply's, I assumed it would be this way (since that is the point of the hooks) but wanted to make sure no key elements of the system were gonna be changed before gold.

[advis0r]

Just wondering... You know how these smilies are listed on the right side... now, if you guys can fit this into your busy schedule of vB bug fixes, can you work it out so that it doesn't list smilies bigger than those ones on the right side automatically... I think I'm confusing myself, but I hope someone knows what I'm talking about. lol

Dunno, if you can't... that's fine. :rolleyes:

[Kwak]

This is very exciting! :cool:

[CMilne]

HUZZAH!

*dies*

[Darkblade]

There is one question to ask. Will there be a list of the changed templates in v3.5 because I have my own, custom skin created that needs to be running on v3.5 as well.

[ManagerJosh]

Preliminary List:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=884592&postcount=2
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=892551&postcount=2

[chaeberle]

Just wondering... You know how these smilies are listed on the right side... now, if you guys can fit this into your busy schedule of vB bug fixes, can you work it out so that it doesn't list smilies bigger than those ones on the right side automatically... I think I'm confusing myself, but I hope someone knows what I'm talking about. lol

Dunno, if you can't... that's fine. :rolleyes:
This belongs in the vB 3.5 suggestions/feedback forum.

[M1th]

Testing new quick edit.,


WOW, nice one guys! ;)

[Mainer82]

I'm not sure if I like the WYSIWYG editor being in the quick edit. Is this an optional feature?

I think I also liked the double clicking the post better then double clicking the edit button, that's more confusing to to ender users. Buttons are made to be click once.

[ManagerJosh]

i rather dislike clicking in the text. It was sometimes difficult to activate. Plus I've often accidently activated someone's post and modified it on the test boards I've been at

[Onimua]

Interesting with the new quick edit adjustment... and now I actually see the new editor in the quick edit.

[GamerzWorld]

Hmmm not sure about the new quick edit :/

[Onimua]

Hmmm not sure about the new quick edit :/ Seems a bit... awkward, in my way of describing it.

EDIT: Hey, now I can edit posts right after using the quick reply without refreshing. Just noticed that... :D

[southernlady]

Actually, I don't care for it at all. Liz

[sensimilla]

null ? in Quick reply window ?
and will new features work with Opera ?

[Floris]

The new quick edit is way cool. Hot stuff devs!

[GamerzWorld]

Seems a bit... awkward, in my way of describing it. EDIT: Hey, now I can edit posts right after using the quick reply without refreshing. Just noticed that... :D What do you mean? Edit : just cleared cache and i see now :) Prefer if we could simply click off rather than save

[mOdEtWo]

The new quick edit is way cool. Hot stuff devs!
Yeah, but they broke it for Opera (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs35.php?do=view&bugid=427). That'll be fixed tho (I hope :p )

So, the new system means WYSIWYG on the quick edit textbox, which can only be opened with a doubleclick on the edit button. Nice.

[Cole2026]

The new quick edit is awesome, just what I wanted. :)

3.5 is definantly coming along ;).

[BassX]

I read about a new feature last week that puts a separator between threads to show unread threads that were updated since your last visit - I can't seem to find where this was mentioned anymore and I was wondering if this is still working?

I have never had the separator show up for me.

[Zachery]

Do a search for newposts here, browse to the very last page, look at the top of the results returned.

[Chroder]

Yeah :D This new quick edit is insanely cool ;)

[BassX]

Do a search for newposts here, browse to the very last page, look at the top of the results returned.

Thanks for your suggestion Zachery, but I'm still having problems. I'm not sure what you meant by "here" (this thread or the forums) but I tried both.

When I searched this thread for "newposts" the only result I got back was the thread itself. When I searched the forum for "newposts" I went to the last page and the top of the results is a post about vB 2.0.

What am I doing wrong?

[Zachery]

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/search.php?do=getnew << CLICK THAT

Go to last page, look at the top of the search results.

[Darkblade]

The new quick edit is great. You should try it. :D lol

[Medar]

So far looks cool...but will have to follow along until 3.5 is officially released.

[WiBu]

Nice tightening of some of the code. The new editer is cool too... I don't see much of a difference though. One thing I don't like though is the new double click edit mode... I liked it the way it was before. I used it for quick edits... I don't feel the need for a full fledged editor especially if it increases the time the edit box takes to come up.

[uaexxx]

The new quick edit is cool, just what I was looking for :)

[youradultworld]

You can upgrade from beta 1 to beta 2 without any problems... Just go to /install/upgrade.php (like any other version).

Right, that's what I assumed, and that's what I did, but since the files are all from the beta1, after the successful upgrade according to admincp, everything remains beta1, with no differences or name changes, even after clearing the cache, etc.

Are you sure I don't have to upload any beta2 files at all? So in other words there was no point for me to download beta2 if I had beta1 installed all I had to do is run the install/upgrade.php script?

That completed successfully but as I said no changes noticed, including version.

Thanks in advance everyone..

-Chris

[C.Birch]

I liked just being able to click in the text area to load the quick editer, my users a abit thick when it comes to tech stuff so trying to tell them a 2 click opens a quick editer and 1 click opens the main editer will be hard work. could there not just be a quick edit button along with a edit one like with the reply buttons?

[C.Birch]

Right, that's what I assumed, and that's what I did, but since the files are all from the beta1, after the successful upgrade according to admincp, everything remains beta1, with no differences or name changes, even after clearing the cache, etc.

Are you sure I don't have to upload any beta2 files at all? So in other words there was no point for me to download beta2 if I had beta1 installed all I had to do is run the install/upgrade.php script?

That completed successfully but as I said no changes noticed, including version.

Thanks in advance everyone..

-Chris

To update you need to upload the beta2 files apart from your config file and then run the install/upgrade.php after you have fully run the upgrade and checked its worked fully remove the install folder.

[BassX]

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/search.php?do=getnew << CLICK THAT

Go to last page, look at the top of the search results.

Thanks! - I was thinking you were leading me to the post that talked about the feature, not the feature in action itself.

[WiBu]

Could we have an options for either double click the post or double click the edit?

Edit: Another thing, I've noticed a dramatic slowdown in the way the post is added when using a quick reply... it's almost as slow as it was without the ajax and with the redirect on a low ping server.

Edit 2: No, sorry ignore my first edit. Must have been having connection problems with vb.com :)

[Onimua]

Could we have an options for either double click the post or double click the edit?

Edit: Another thing, I've noticed a dramatic slowdown in the way the post is added when using a quick reply... it's almost as slow as it was without the ajax and with the redirect on a low ping server.

Edit 2: No, sorry ignore my first edit. Must have been having connection problems with vb.com :) Really? I haven't noticed that.

EDIT: Wait.. yeah, it seems a tad slower, but it's still faster than the old way.

[Zachery]

I've not noticed any slowdown :)

[le`shaq]

i also liked it better when double clicking the post text. but good job anyway. :)

[feldon23]

What?! Beta 3 is in development now? Man I thought beta stages are done and that Beta 2 was a total bug-free version.What software only goes through 2 betas?

I like how Quick Edit is done now.

[joshx]

the new quick edit is awesome. good work. :cool:

[Gray Matter]

What software only goes through 2 betas?

I like how Quick Edit is done now.

He was obviously being sarcastic. ;)

Good work on the new message editor. Does it comply with whatever editor the user has set in their CP? :)

[le`shaq]

Are these new features already implented in the download version? I'm speaking of the new editing behaviour.

greets

[Martin]

Are these new features already implented in the download version? I'm speaking of the new editing behaviour.

greets
No. They will be in the Beta 3.

[bchawla]

I like it :p

[bchawla]

its back in action!!

[Cole2026]

wha thappened to editing a thread by double clicking? :confused:

You now have to double click the edit icon. ;)

[Cowboysfan]

If I install the beta on my forums now, and take the time to edit the templates so my theme works, will I have to re-edit after each beta release, all the way to the final?

[whitetigergrowl]

I would say don't waste your time doing template edits until at least an RC version

[Cowboysfan]

I would say don't waste your time doing template edits until at least an RC version

Then, I am assuming that the templates would have to be edited on each update to keep my current theme intact? I want to install the beta tonight, but not if I am going to have to go to that work each time. (and since I never had to edit the templates once it was installed in 3.05 all the way through 3.07, I dont know how much work it would be to begin with)

The change in the quick reply alone is giving me the itch to upgrade, when I initially planned on waiting until the final release.

[Onimua]

There are template changes in from 3.0.7 > Beta 1, and then from Beta 1 > Beta 2 because of changes/add-ons they've been making.

If you're going to do major editing with the templates, it'd be best to wait until Gold. Reason 3.0.5 > 3.0.7 didn't have exmplate changes was because of the fact they were mainly security patches than anything else.

[whitetigergrowl]

Then, I am assuming that the templates would have to be edited on each update to keep my current theme intact? I want to install the beta tonight, but not if I am going to have to go to that work each time. (and since I never had to edit the templates once it was installed in 3.05 all the way through 3.07, I dont know how much work it would be to begin with)

The change in the quick reply alone is giving me the itch to upgrade, when I initially planned on waiting until the final release.

Some template errors have still cropped up, and as what was just stated above, there is still some modifying going on beta to beta. The betas are coming fast and furious, so patience will be of virtue. However, you can install the beta on a closed are of your site and start messing with it and the template system so when the stable versions start coming...not to much should have to be fixed or changed.

[noppid]

Some template errors have still cropped up, and as what was just stated above, there is still some modifying going on beta to beta. The betas are coming fast and furious, so patience will be of virtue. However, you can install the beta on a closed are of your site and start messing with it and the template system so when the stable versions start coming...not to much should have to be fixed or changed.

I agree, I waited for Gold last time and felt left out in the cold. Learn it now. The docs and how tos being published are really good.

[sully02]

Perhaps the editor could be an option, where you can choose to double click the post or the edit button?

[Cole2026]

Perhaps the editor could be an option, where you can choose to double click the post or the edit button?

It wouldn't be hard to switch back and forth, just changing an id from one place to another. ;)

[Erwin]

Let me see...

I see...

I think clicking on the text makes more sense... or double clicking on a separate button - most members won't know to click on the edit button twice... But a cool feature nonetheless.

[Mr. Brian]

Great work guys!

Thumbs up.

[Neutral Singh]

Let me see...

I see...

I think clicking on the text makes more sense... or double clicking on a separate button - most members won't know to click on the edit button twice... But a cool feature nonetheless.

Gr8 work indeed! BUT still i think unless and until the end-users cannot see a visual indicator to this facility, the utilization of this feature will be minimal as far as end users are concerned. The visual indicator can be designed in the same way as quick reply small button (on the right hand side of "Quote" button) works on a postbit template i.e. clicking the small button activates Quick Reply Box toawards the end of the thread. Similarly, by putting a small button for Quick Edit alongside "Quote" button (e.g left hand side of "Quote" button) would help end-users in easily finding out about the functionality (out of curiosity on seeing a new small button? ;))...

To make my point clear please have a look at the attachement.

Regards

[Cole2026]

Well, I am just going to make a couple videos to show my users how to use the AJAX functions. I would rather not have an extra button.

[Wayne Luke]

This has been changed to use a single click on the edit button. Read the announcements forum.

[greywolff]

oh perfect :) i was begining to tire of explaining how it worked

you Vb dev types rule

[Mainer82]

Devs, thank you, for giving us the option on whether which type of editor. :D

[Cole2026]

This has been changed to use a single click on the edit button. Read the announcements forum.


Awesome, this defiantly makes things easier.. ;)

[MJM]

Our site has a higher visiting readership though few post entries per day (10-20 max atm)
It appears when I go to other 3.5b2 live sites as a visiter that all is working smoothly.

My main concern about going live on our site with the new beta is that it not have bugs that affect the visiting readership - (members who don't post and unregistered visiters)

If visiters aren't affected I would consider going live and let our few posting members be part of the beta program.

Whadya think?

Mark

[feldon23]

If you're concerned, run a private test version of vB3.5.

[MJM]

Okay will do. Also I didn't mention that we have very few mods, but will test drive it first.

Thanks,
Mark

[digitalpoint]

Awesome... the new edit (single click) is perfect IMO.

[Erwin]

This has been changed to use a single click on the edit button. Read the announcements forum.
Cool... let's test...

Awesome!!!

Thanks for listening Jelsoft! You guys ARE THE BEST. :bow:

[Onimua]

Yep, definetly love the improvement. Things are getting better. :D

[PcCopat]

new wysiwyg is fantastic :D

[Neutral Singh]

About QE: I think, i'll take it finally !! :)

[Floris]

I've been playing a lot with the new Quick Edit, and I really feel this is a very big improvement. Great job and I can not wait to use it real time on my own sites to speed up posting and moderation.

[Darkblade]

This Quick Delete is great too! :D

[southernlady]

Hey, they're running Beta 3 now. Time 12:55PM EDT Liz

[gulldarek]

I wonder when Beta 3 will be available to download :)

Great work guys, each day vbulletin is more professional and powerfull :)

[southernlady]

If they run true to form, about a week -10 days from now. Liz

[BootsSiR]

This has probably already been posted but I can't read/search through a thousand pages of posts....

can I update 3.0.6 to 3.5.0 beta no problem?

Will my current styles/templates be ok? I understand I'll lose my hacks, thats no problem. I would like to maintain the forum color scheme/logos though :)

thanks for the input

[Shane]

just have to be carefull what you overwrite from the new templates that have the new features.

[BootsSiR]

just have to be carefull what you overwrite from the new templates that have the new features.

Sounds good. Probably give it a go tonight.

[zetetic]

I think the Quick Delete is an awesome addition, but I'm a little concerned with the fact that the delete button is in the lower right hand corner, since I think that's typically where someone might expect to find the save button.

[Onimua]

Haven't tried the new editor yet... lemme see...

EDIT: Okay, I think I like this now... I see your point about the delete button, but still, people should read before they click. If you don't, your fault. :p

[joshx]

pffft you still have to click the 'delete' radio button as well and then hit delete again, so it's not likely that people are gonna be accidentally deleting posts willy-nilly. :p

[zetetic]

pffft you still have to click the 'delete' radio button as well and then hit delete again, so it's not likely that people are gonna be accidentally deleting posts willy-nilly. :p
True, true. Actually when I posted that I had only looked at the screenshot in the announcement thread and so thought the default delete button was the giant "Delete this Message" in the lower right hand corner that only shows up after you click the smaller delete button. But still. :D

[Onimua]

.. I got bored today of having to click 'Go Advanced' to get to the delete post dialog...
Who else thinks Kier should get bored of doing other things on the site? :D Who knows what we could have next... :p

[Savoy]

i wounder when a debugged full verz will be up ? =]

[Electronic Punk]

Good stuff :)

[badblu01]

Good work

I like the new editor

[crash resistant]

testing. LOL jk

love it!

[badblu01]

VB keeps on getting better

[Dje]

Great job on the new release guys!

Edit: and the quick edit is great:)

[Electronic Punk]

I guess I will be installing beta3 this evening then? :p
Lots of template changes in this one? :s

[DogGunn]

Nice thanks.
Good update. !!

[darnoldy]

This Quick Delete is great too! :DI agree...
but i have a question.

"To delete this message, check the appropriate option below, then click the 'deleted this message' button."

What happens if I choose the "Do Not delete" option, then push the "Delete this message" button? Do I delete the message or not delete the message... And what happens if I, instead, hit the save button?

[Onimua]

I agree...
but i have a question.

"To delete this message, check the appropriate option below, then click the 'deleted this message' button."

What happens if I choose the "Do Not delete" option, then push the "Delete this message" button? Do I delete the message or not delete the message... And what happens if I, instead, hit the save button?
Just tested that out.

If you select "Do not delete this message," then lick "Delete this message," it get deleted.

However, if you click "Do not delete this message" and click save, nothing happens except quick edit closes.

Just tested this out in the Test forum.

[JasonG]

The beta is great! Can't wait for the final!

[Kier]

Just tested that out.

If you select "Do not delete this message," then lick "Delete this message," it get deleted.

However, if you click "Do not delete this message" and click save, nothing happens except quick edit closes.

Just tested this out in the Test forum.
I've just made a couple of edits so that if the 'Do not delete this message' radio button is checked, you can not submit the form.

[chaeberle]

If you select "Do not delete this message," then lick "Delete this message,"
Please stop licking your monitor. It's gross.





;)

[Darkblade]

Have you noticed that we're running on Beta 3? Well I didn't at the moment. :p

[Zonex]

it took 9 days to go from beta 1 to beta 2
if the trend holds, we are still a few days away

[uaexxx]

let's get it on ...

[Floris]

Please stop licking your monitor. It's gross.





;)
:D

Beta 2 has a few issues on my site but the bug tracker gave me solutions and glad to hear beta 3 is looking even more promising!

[tinjon]

oooohh! whats new in b-3?

[PitchouneN64ngc]

oooohh! whats new in b-3?
A lot of bugs fix and some new features in the new editor :)

[Onimua]

Please stop licking your monitor. It's gross.





;)
Pfft... my computer and I spend alot of quality time together. :D

I shouldn't post after 3 in the morning...

[sleepyk]

upgrade is no problems with database right? i kinda cant have the forum down..

[Floris]

upgrade is no problems with database right? i kinda cant have the forum down..
If you have no source code hacks installed that require database changes you should be able to upgrade from 3.0 to 3.5 with no problems. As per announcement: Make a backup of the database first.

[s1l3ncer]

Damm it I have look everywhere to where to download it but I cant seem to find it. any help please.

[Steve Machol]

If you have an active license you can download it from the Members Area just like any other vB version. :)

[feldon23]

upgrade is no problems with database right? i kinda cant have the forum down..
vBulletin 3.5 is beta software. If you are willing/interested in testing it out, feel free to download it. IF you absolutely must have a 100% stable forum, you might want to wait for 3.5 final.

[siNix]

Damm it I have look everywhere to where to download it but I cant seem to find it. any help please.


Renew your licence ;)

[zappsan]

When will be able to download beta 3?
How many betas are there usually released before the gold version is coming out?
Just wondering.

[feldon23]

There were 7 betas of vB3.

[Floris]

I doubt we will have 7 beta's for 3.5 :)

[zappsan]

I doubt we will have 7 beta's for 3.5 :)
Ok, how many do you expect us to have? More or less than 7?

[Floris]

With my comment I meant: I doubt we will as much as seven beta releases ..

Probably less :)

[Razasharp]

lol stop teasing! :p how many do you rekon??? :)

[poolking]

lol stop teasing! :p how many do you rekon??? :)

Unless you have a crystal ball, not a chance, you don't know how many bugs may still lie hidden.

So please give Jelsoft a break. :)

[Razasharp]

nobodys giving them a tough time :rolleyes: we're just excited :) And they have a much better idea on the state of the current release than any of us :cool:

[Floris]

nobodys giving them a tough time :rolleyes: we're just excited :) And they have a much better idea on the state of the current release than any of us :cool:
I've given you a reply and explained it. As beta 3 is obvious, at least 1 more. And as 7 is an assumption that it will be too much, you can pretty much do the math that it perhaps is 3,4,5,6 - (4)max.

There is no ETA on beta 3, and no information about future releases beyond that. Asking about it won't change that.

This thread is about the current beta 2 announcement, and not about beta 3 or anything beyond that.

[dreck]

nobodys giving them a tough time :rolleyes: we're just excited :) And they have a much better idea on the state of the current release than any of us :cool:hehe.. yeppers!

[Dominator]

When will we hear an announcement about beta 3 i am not looking to rush anyone

No offense, but seriously are you that blind, look two posts above :D
Dont rush them, or they might change there minds on releasing it at all ;)

[Darkblade]

When will we hear an announcement about beta 3 i am not looking to rush anyone

Oh god, haven't you read Floris' post already? http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=898428&postcount=226

[badblu01]

ok i am sorry i missed that

[feldon23]

Every time someone asks, they add 10 minutes. We're up to about August for beta 3. ;) :p

[dreck]

Every time someone asks, they add 10 minutes. We're up to about August for beta 3. ;) :plol..

I love the new "Quick Moderation". Very nice!
Be even nicer if it had a redirect removal. ;)

[Darkblade]

That would be worthless in my opinion.

[feldon23]

The ability to remove a Redirect is worthless?

[Dominator]

Yes, you could just move it

[somedudeer]

I really want to use the final, beta 3 is amazing. I wonder how amazaing the final will be!

[plazo]

Looks great (i think :rolleyes:)

[DelphiVillage]

I really want to use the final, beta 3 is amazing. I wonder how amazaing the final will be!

how do you know that if it's isn't released yet :rolleyes:

[Zonex]

how do you know that if it's isn't released yet :rolleyes:
we are posting here on vbulletin.com on beta 3 as of a couple of days ago :p
click edit post ;)

[Darkblade]

Man the Beta 3 is taking a while. :\

[Floris]

This thread is to discuss the beta 2 announcement. Not anticipate the beta 3 release.

[c0d3x]

great work guys! this vb 3.5 is really amazing! i love the plugins :p

what do you think to release the final version including a portal with downloads section? :-D

[Floris]

great work guys! this vb 3.5 is really amazing! i love the plugins :p

what do you think to release the final version including a portal with downloads section? :-D
We unfortunatly can't answer that question for you.

[dreck]

Maybe I have missed something? But I can't seem to copy & paste inside the "reply to Thread"?
I am not sure if their is a better way, but in past if I wanted to quote more than one user I would copy the first quote & then paste it into the next.
Be nice If we had a multiple user quote function.

[southernlady]

But I can't seem to copy & paste inside the "reply to Thread"?

You have to switch modes. You see the two A's over on the far right hand side of the box? One is for full wysiwyg mode and one is for limited mode (One allows me to use my copy and past button on my mouse, the other doesn't). In full wysiwyg mode, I have to go up to the edit bar and hit the copy and paste there or do something with the control button which I never remembered anyway. I HATE full wysiwyg mode.

I WISH I could keep MINE in limited mode all the time but the danged thing keeps switching back on me here. Liz

[AzhriaLilu]

In full wysiwyg mode, I have to go up to the edit bar and hit the copy and paste there or do something with the control button which I never remembered anyway.

Control C/Control V - copy/paste ;)

[dreck]

ah... So I was missing something. :)
Thanks..
Control C/Control V = ;)

I would still like to see a feature that would make quoting one than one user easier.

[Cole2026]

You have to switch modes. You see the two A's over on the far right hand side of the box? One is for full wysiwyg mode and one is for limited mode (One allows me to use my copy and past button on my mouse, the other doesn't). In full wysiwyg mode, I have to go up to the edit bar and hit the copy and paste there or do something with the control button which I never remembered anyway. I HATE full wysiwyg mode.

I WISH I could keep MINE in limited mode all the time but the danged thing keeps switching back on me here. Liz

Full mode does not allow copy and paste in Firefox because it is a security hazard, but to get around it, as the people said above me, you can still copy + paste using:

Ctrl+X for Cut
Ctrl+C for Copy
Ctrl+P for Paste

:)

[AzhriaLilu]

Ctrl+P for Paste

:)
Think you'll find Ctrl+P is print ;)

[Mainer82]

Right, it's cntrl+v for paste. ;)

[AzhriaLilu]

uh huh, as has been said twice already *grin*