vBulletin 3.5 Beta 1 Release Discussion

[Kier]

Please use this thread to discuss the release of vBulletin 3.5 Beta 1.

Do not use this thread to post troubleshooting queries or bug reports. The vBulletin 3.5 Bug Tracker (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs35.php?) and vBulletin 3.5.0 forums (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=100) are available for that purpose.

[daemon]

Nice release! I'm downloading now!

First post!

[Colin F]

Congratulations guys :)

[Brad.loo]

w00t!

[squall14716]

Yay! I don't have to kidnap anyone!

[Floris]

Nice job Kier & the rest of the staff!


*downloads*

[TheComputerGuy]

Awesome! I knew there was a reason there were so many members of staff in the chatroom!

[Breaker]

awesome

[Aros]

Awesome :) Have fun everybody!

[Ironhead]

Got it!

[Ken Iovino]

Thanks vBulletin! Great Work

[PitchouneN64ngc]

Downloaded and installing, many thanks to everybody ;)

[MidnightPyro]

Nice job everyone. I'm sorry for stalking all of you developers, and annoying all the staff members and everything :cool:

[mOdEtWo]

Wee. :)

[Floris]

Awesome! I knew there was a reason there were so many members of staff in the chatroom!Aren't you glad you joined our chat :) Man, 50+ people in there, and more then half the vBcom staff :)

[Tailfeathers]

Will be downloading soon... :) Nice job guys.

I have a question though: will a full list of all the new features (and bug fixes) in this release be posted today?

[thealtered]

w00t

* goes off to play with it

[ianskate]

Awesome. Uploading and installing now :)

Thanks for the awesome software folks :D

[Webnower]

Excellent job guys

[womensden]

Awesome! Thanks guys.

[Colin F]

I'm not sure that's possible. Bug fixes especially can mostly be looked up in the bugtracker...

[mOdEtWo]

Aren't you glad you joined our chat :) Man, 50+ people in there, and more then half the vBcom staff :)
Hmm, where's that chatroom?

[Floris]

Hmm, where's that chatroom?
irc.vbfans.com port 6667 channel #vBFans

[Floris]

Will be downloading soon... :) Nice job guys.

I have a question though: will a full list of all the new features (and bug fixes) in this release be posted today?

I hope so, but I think they're saving it for the 'stable' release.

[AzhriaLilu]

excellent stuff :D

Well done, guys!

[weirdpixels]

nice going to install now :)

[Ken Iovino]

I found a bug already lol made a new thread in the bugs area. Small and stupid but anoyying

[eXtremeTim]

Im going to have some fun today.

[BrandNIC]

Woohoo something to do today.
It's playtime.:D

[Aros]

Hmm, where's that chatroom?
irc://irc.vbulletin-fans.com/vbfans/ If you have mIRC or a client that supports it :) - irc.vbfans.com port 6667 channel #vbfans

[Tsukasa2k5]

Yeah, thank you, vB Team :)

awesome!

[Craigr]

Thanks. :)

[evssadmin]

Finally Here

[akex054]

Thank you so much, I test it asap.

[AZone]

Ready to pay $30 and download. However, following DEVs warning, won't install it on main site - will test on localhost until some later version is released. Thank you! :)

[sully02]

Excellent... Time to test!

[Chroder]

Wooo :D Thank you devs!

Very nice code, I'm having fun exploring it :D

[Vega]

nice one! :)

[Steve Moore]

Grrr, you guys waited till I was asleep. LOL

Downloaded and installing later this evening, got errands to run first. Great job guys, now I can't wait to transfer my hack over to 3.5

[Paul M]

What do you put in config.php now to turn debug mode on - it's not mentioned ?

[Brad.loo]

$config['Misc']['debug'] = true;

[Mr_Butter]

Aren't you glad you joined our chat :) Man, 50+ people in there, and more then half the vBcom staff :)

I'm glad i was there! I was "Butter"

[Paul M]

Thanks Brad.loo :)

[King Kovifor]

Great a new version! This one sounds like a great one (hack vB 3.0.7)... Now I gotta covert my changed settings to go with vB 3.0.5!

[belinea]

Und wir deutschen Kunden sind mal wieder die Dummen.

:mad: :( :mad: :( :mad: :( :mad: :( :mad: :(

Auf vbulletin-germany.com weiss man wohl anscheinend noch gar nicht dass es bereits die Beta1 gibt.

Schulnote 6- für Jelsfot.

[mikaelweb]

Yeah, thank you, vB Team

[BoYagoob]

Thanks ..

:)

[Kusadasi-Guy]

Great work!!
Thank You!

[Tailfeathers]

I hope so, but I think they're saving it for the 'stable' release.
Ah, I see. Thanks. :)

[Gantz]

Thanks a lot !

^_^

[Andy Huang]

Nice... now time to harass someone to start working on UTF-8 version :p

[Mike Sullivan]

Und wir deutschen Kunden sind mal wieder die Dummen.

:mad: :( :mad: :( :mad: :( :mad: :( :mad: :(

Auf vbulletin-germany.com weiss man wohl anscheinend noch gar nicht dass es bereits die Beta1 gibt.

Schulnote 6- für Jelsfot.
I'm going to assume this is abouet vB-Germany not having a beta released.

They have an English version available now.

[AFusion]

indeed it is...

but lol I thought the german grades system only goes to 5- :p

[Jose Amaral Rego]

I hope u ppl like the default style for awhile. That is until u make a pluggin version. I was wondering is their a demo admincp? I thought there was on for vB 3.0.7 in this forum.:confused:

[Stussi]

No, 6 ;)

great version :) *currently testing*

[axi]

hi,

i still using 3.0.7 and will probably move to 3.50 when it is final and ready complete.

Will it override any hacks, or will it do anything to the current hacks/modifications i got?

What is the updates with 3.50? I am not quite a 'coder' or php artist, i checked out the updates and seen some codes changes, but in general, whats the advantages about it because i am currently happy with 3.0.7 and would rather move to 3.50 if its going to benefit me further.. So I'm pretty happy with 3.0.7 and never come across much problems.

Any differences you can compare between 3.0.7 to 3.50. Other than the codes, any differences that users/members of vb3.50 will realise and like?

Cheers.!

[HenryG2]

Anyone else notice an error in the attachment window?

[Floris]

Against all suggestions, I've made a backup of my databases and upgraded my live-sites. No problems what so ever :)

[conqsoft]

Against all suggestions, I've made a backup of my databases and upgraded my live-sites. No problems what so ever :)

From: http://www.vbulletin-fans.com/

Fatal error: Please upgrade to vBulletin 3.5.0 or greater in /includes/init.php on line 163

:D

[eXtremeTim]

Now if only we had a way to add additional stuff to queries.

[aranthorn]

I'm pretty excited about this, but I'm gonna wait on a non-beta before converting over :D

[BrandNIC]

Took the plunge and converted a live site with no probs.
So far so good, Now i just need some members.

[Keyser Söze]

i just want to confirm this wont mess me up under the rules, i wont open this to anyone but staff, but if i use my current database to make a test forum, is that ok?

i just want to see it working under a large database

[belinea]

Warning: Unknown(./includes/functions_bbcodeparse.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /global.php(356) : eval()'d code on line 7

Fatal error: (null)(): Failed opening required './includes/functions_bbcodeparse.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/web1/vb3/global.php(356) : eval()'d code on line 7

:confused:

[Gtech]

Is it ok if i upload 3.5 to my server to have a look and then delete it as i cannot upgrade it just yet becasue of the portal system currently installled?

[Shane]

Downloading and now uploading in style.. :)

[Wayne Luke]

i just want to confirm this wont mess me up under the rules, i wont open this to anyone but staff, but if i use my current database to make a test forum, is that ok?

i just want to see it working under a large database

This is fine as long as it isn't open to the general public.

[Wayne Luke]

Warning: Unknown(./includes/functions_bbcodeparse.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /global.php(356) : eval()'d code on line 7

Fatal error: (null)(): Failed opening required './includes/functions_bbcodeparse.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/web1/vb3/global.php(356) : eval()'d code on line 7
:confused:

Make sure you uploaded all the files from vBulletin 3.5.0 and overwrote what you had.

[Wayne Luke]

Is it ok if i upload 3.5 to my server to have a look and then delete it as i cannot upgrade it just yet becasue of the portal system currently installled?

The license agreement allows you to have a private test installation of our software.

[Wayne Luke]

Will it override any hacks, or will it do anything to the current hacks/modifications i got?

Your hacks and modifications are not compatible with vBulletin 3.5.0. They will need to be upgraded by the person that created them.

[belinea]

Warning: Unknown(./includes/functions_bbcodeparse.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /global.php(356) : eval()'d code on line 7

Fatal error: (null)(): Failed opening required './includes/functions_bbcodeparse.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/web1/vb3/global.php(356) : eval()'d code on line 7

:confused:

Here is the solution:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142034

Many, many thanks to LiveWire.

[Floris]

From: http://www.vbulletin-fans.com/

Fatal error: Please upgrade to vBulletin 3.5.0 or greater in /includes/init.php on line 163

:DI think you were using cache: try http://www.vbulletin-fans.com/index.php?styleid=93

[lazorde]

Thanx for All Team vBulletin Nice Version

[ianskate]

Maybe this will help answer others questions as well, but, are there any readily available style templates other than the default one that this site is using? (So that we have something to base new creations on)

[lazorde]

Thanx for All Team vBulletin Nice Version

[patriotcow]

Oh no :(


Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /home/quack/public_html/chat/global.php(356) : eval()'d code on line 26

[lazorde]

Thanks for All Team vBulletin Nice Version

[belinea]

@patriotcow: Try this: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142034

[patriotcow]

Fixed thanks, but not happy about all the style changes. Like is all the php includes all changes and how to display how many members etc.. :o

Ok so how do I get includes to work again, I use that for all my styles for copyright.

[Jose Amaral Rego]

I was wondering if a demo admincp will be up and when? I seen there was on for vB 3.0.7 in this forum.:) Style/Skins are not pluggins ;)

[womensden]

ok, I upgraded with no problems.. but now avatars aren't showing up in posts. They are in profiles and everywhere else they are supposed to be, but just a broken image in posts.

[patriotcow]

ok, I upgraded with no problems.. but now avatars aren't showing up in posts. They are in profiles and everywhere else they are supposed to be, but just a broken image in posts.
Same here! It shows the path to the avatar as the url to that post :rolleyes:

[Gantz]

Same here!
it was the same till I revert all templates ...

[womensden]

my urls are fine, but the "image path" is just the link to my forums.

[flstreetscene]

So any estimates on how long 'till the stable release?

[patriotcow]

You need to change your avatars path to: $post[avatarurl]

[womensden]

fixed. Thanks... I actually missed one of my reverts.

[Floris]

I was wondering if a demo admincp will be up and when? I seen there was on for vB 3.0.7 in this forum.:) Style/Skins are not pluggins ;)When 3.5 goes stable, the admin demo will get updated.

[KanyeWest]

im not touchin till the full comes out

[patriotcow]

That pluggin feature looks pleasing :cool:

[Rocol]

I am loading it to a test forum for now, just to get the feel of things ;). Excellent work on the release Devs :cool:

[Nukey]

I have a test form running right now, I would make it live but I need vBAdvanced to be able to work :)

[TCM]

Downlaod! Install! Now!

[hollyboy]

Downlaod! Install! Now!
what are the templates changed?

[DJDarknez]

BLING BLING!

I'm all over this like a fat kid on a cupcake! :D

hmm......cupcakes..... *homer simpson drool*

[CMilne]

FRIGGIN HORRAY! YAY I'M SO HAPPY! FINALLY! THANKYOU JELSOFT!

* head explodes *

[Martin]

FRIGGIN HORRAY! YAY I'M SO HAPPY! FINALLY! THANKYOU JELSOFT!

* head explodes *
You're Welcome.

Love,
Jelsoft

[Wayne Luke]

what are the templates changed?
They are listed in the second post of the actual announcement thread.

[RagingPenguin]

Not sure if this is answerable but I'll ask anyway. Is there a set amount of beta revisions planned before final release? I know it's not like writing outlines where to have a 1 you automatically need a 2 to validate that level of branching, I'm just curious.

[Rocol]

Upgraded from vB3.0.7, everything went so very smoothly, nice one Guys .. now I can have a play with it ( The vB 3.5 Beta that is ) :D :cool:

[TCM]

Mhmm. Maybe this wasn't such a good idea.. :P

[Wayne Luke]

Not sure if this is answerable but I'll ask anyway. Is there a set amount of beta revisions planned before final release? I know it's not like writing outlines where to have a 1 you automatically need a 2 to validate that level of branching, I'm just curious.

No.. This beta process is planned to be "Quick Fire and Rapid Release". There could be a new release tomorrow if something significant is found or it could be the next release is next week. It depends on what is found, what is fixed, what needs to be refined and what hooks are asked for by modification developers.

[Fusion]

I like the rapid response plan.
Makes people more in-touch with the actual evolution and changes, although it may not be such a good plan for those who already used the beta with production forums. ;)

[RagingPenguin]

Thanks for the quick and accurate response Wayne. That's what I wanted to know. :)

[w4lh]

I am Not sure what happened but the install upgrade to 3.5 from 3.07 worked fine, but now the forum is missing everything, users, post, threads etc. It's like it is a new forum. Any suggestions to restore the users and posts, threads, settings etc would be appreciated.

[CreationNation]

Ok, so <takes breath> ... haha. I run http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum . I am very interested in most of the new features, from AJAX, Validating XHTML to fulltext searching. If you take a quick peak at my forum you'll see most of the band sub-forums have their own styles, most based off of one template.

Am I looking at some major work here to get everything up to par with the new features? This will be my first major upgrade with you guys so I haven't been hit with much except a 3.0 > 3.0.3 > 3.0.6 upgrade process. That was pretty effortless. I've learned a lot since using VB but am not 100% up on, for example, the set backs when I revert something, or even exactly what that does (reverting to previous version or.. ?

I just need some sort of idea of what I am looking at work wise, as I want to take advantage of all these new features, but don't want to go in thinking one day if it is going to take a week to edit styles etc. (most the band sub forums have custom header code). If it is major work, if someone could recommend the best way to go about this that would be awesome.

Thanks!

[Wayne Luke]

I am Not sure what happened but the install upgrade to 3.5 from 3.07 worked fine, but now the forum is missing everything, users, post, threads etc. It's like it is a new forum. Any suggestions to restore the users and posts, threads, settings etc would be appreciated.

You ran upgrade.php and not install.php correct?

Hopefully, you installed this on your test/development forum and not your live forum and made a backup before attempting the upgrade.

[PixelFX]

woot! thanks for all the hard work .. this will be fun :P

[w4lh]

I was foolish and brave and had confidence in VB team and did install it on a live forum. Yes I have a back up and yes I did run upgrade.php

I have upgraded many times and did not worry, but got tagged this time, just looking for the best solution out of this dilema... Thanks in advance

[Wayne Luke]

I just need some sort of idea of what I am looking at work wise, as I want to take advantage of all these new features, but don't want to go in thinking one day if it is going to take a week to edit styles etc. (most the band sub forums have custom header code). If it is major work, if someone could recommend the best way to go about this that would be awesome.

If it is based on one template, then you just have to make the changes listed in the announcement thread. If there are hacks or other changes, then you would have to wait until they are implemented for vBulletin 3.5. Without looking at the coding of your templates and the php code modifications that you have done, there is no way we can estimate what kind of work you have in store for you. For most people the upgrade will be easy and painless.

If you have specific questions, you can ask them in the vBulletin 3.5 How Do I forum. If you have questions about code changes you need to make for addons or hacks, ask them at vBulletin.org.

[Wayne Luke]

I was foolish and brave and had confidence in VB team and did install it on a live forum. Yes I have a back up and yes I did run upgrade.php

I have upgraded many times and did not worry, but got tagged this time, just looking for the best solution out of this dilema... Thanks in advance

If your data is gone, the only solution is to restore your 3.0.7 files and your database backup.

[w4lh]

Thanks I will get to work on it...kinda figured that was the route but wanted to ask anyway.


Thanks..

[Mainer82]

GD Font
Wow... VERY cool!

[Floris]

* points out: vBulletin 3.5.0 Beta Support (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142091)

[Vile]

Nice job :)

[el-safa]

when we can download this Version from Member Area ?

[Fusion]

when we can download this Version from Member Area ?
Now?

[thyster]

Is it possible to install a fresh clean copy of 3.5, then import all the data from your forum instead of upgrading? Thanks.

[Fusion]

There will be importers, yes

[Wayne Luke]

Is it possible to install a fresh clean copy of 3.5, then import all the data from your forum instead of upgrading? Thanks.

At this time, no this is not possible. You will have to perform an upgrade. When 3.5 is released as a stable version, an updated version of Impex will be available that will allow this.

[hotrod1]

Thanks alot. Great job and I can't wait to play around with it.

[belindaj]

Wow - love it! Can't WAIT for this to be stable!

[Marboosh.Net]

Me Too

[SaintStephen]

Thank you!

[Cole2026]

At this time, no this is not possible. You will have to perform an upgrade. When 3.5 is released as a stable version, an updated version of Impex will be available that will allow this.
And on top of it all, it would not be the best idea to start fresh on an unstable beta. :D

BTW, playing around with this on my localhost and development forum, plugins system is awesome. :p

[wbear]

Hmm...is this invite only (or am I blind)? I don't have a link to download in my members area...

[Steve Machol]

You have to have an active license. If you do, then the link is there.

[wbear]

I have 2, and it doesn't seem to be?

[edit: blind after all. Followed the normal download link, finally spotted the drop down menu.] :rolleyes:

[greywolff]

Now bring on the CMS :)

[jimmyboy]

it's very buggy

[ManagerJosh]

Wooot! Nice! :d

[AZone]

it's very buggy That's why it's called "beta 1 (unstable)" ;)

[Steve Moore]

question: the plugin system I see asks for the php and what it effects, lets say a hack effects to certain php files, how would you install it then? My hack specifically effects showgroups.php and memberlist.php

[Aerith_Freak]

Looking good. :)

[Wayne Luke]

question: the plugin system I see asks for the php and what it effects, lets say a hack effects to certain php files, how would you install it then? My hack specifically effects showgroups.php and memberlist.php
There are tutorials on how to use the plugin system at vBulletin.org in the vBulletin 3.5 section.

[Steve Moore]

thanks

[Silviu]

What mySQL and PHP versions we should use ?

[Electronic Punk]

Will be installing this over the weekend I hope :)

[ManagerJosh]

Just what is the projected beta period for vB3.5? Three years? :D

[JPT62089]

I upgraded my live forums w/o any problems :)

Now I am in love with the plugin system :)

[Cap'n Steve]

With the hooks and all the new 0bject-oriented stuff, it would seem that 3.5 would be a lot less efficient than 3.0.7. Does anyone notice any difference in the way it performs?

[ThorstenA]

With the hooks and all the new 0bject-oriented stuff, it would seem that 3.5 would be a lot less efficient than 3.0.7. Does anyone notice any difference in the way it performs?

It performs great now ... :D

[Bro_Joey_Gowdy]

/me Rowdy likes !!

[Darkblade]

Excellent, vB 3.50 Beta has been finally released. Although, I really don't know whether to upgrade my forums or not as many bugs still exist. :rolleyes:

[MrNase]

Iam a bit disappointed by this release.. The templates haven't been cleaned up and there are still so many feature which didn't made it into vB 3.5 :(

I don't see the point in the Plugin-System.. Queries still have to be edited manually..

[Jimmy Kane]

we upgraded our 300k post testboard without a problem.
Ill upgrade a copy of the live board sometime later today (1million posts).
So far this is a good release, just having the odd niggle here and there.

[Christine]

Great news -- thanks for all the hard work!! :D

I am happy to hear that you all are going for xhtml-transitional. I have an increasing number of people reading the board via their cell phones.

I just checked the announcement thread for kicks though -- and it is reporting a block line element inside an inline tag for showthread. Glanced at the source, but didn't have time to go through it all to see where this is happening.

Validation Results (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vbulletin.com%2Fforum%2 Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D142024)

Looking forward to giving this a test drive.

Thanks muchly!!

[Neutral Singh]

Just upgraded my 10000 posts test board without a noticable hitch !! Gr8 Job Team Jelsoft !! Once some of the Hacks are ported over to current version, this beauty is gonna rockkkkkkk !!!

Just a query: As an admin would i be able to edit forum heading directly from the forumshome? That would save an admin a considerable time in maintenance.

Thanks

[Jerry]

Excellent, vB 3.50 Beta has been finally released. Although, I really don't know whether to upgrade my forums or not as many bugs still exist. :rolleyes:

Remember, its a beta release.


With the hooks and all the new 0bject-oriented stuff, it would seem that 3.5 would be a lot less efficient than 3.0.7. Does anyone notice any difference in the way it performs?

OO dosn't mean slower at all, we tested the speed of common actions a lot.


What mySQL and PHP versions we should use ?

Most of the dev servers are PHP 5.0.4 and MySQL 4.1 I belive.

[H@K@N]

Getting following Errors, while upgrading from 3.0.3 > 3.5 beta 1

3.0.3 > 3.0.4 > 3.0.5 > 3.0.6 > 3.0.7 done, than he upgrade script shows the installtion of vb3.5 but in the error he shows still 3.0.7 ?




Database error in vBulletin 3.0.7:

Invalid SQL:
ALTER TABLE userban ADD reason VARCHAR(250) DEFAULT '' NOT NULL;

MySQL Error : Duplicate column name 'reason'
Error Number : 1060



after hitting refresh




Database error in vBulletin 3.0.7:

Invalid SQL:
ALTER TABLE session ADD languageid SMALLINT UNSIGNED NOT NULL;

MySQL Error : Duplicate column name 'languageid'
Error Number : 1060
Date : Friday, June 10th 2005 @ 02:02:42 PM



should i post this to the bug tracker ?


gr33tz

[Marula]

I am in the members download area and can't find the beta 1 download???

[Wayne Luke]

Getting following Errors, while upgrading from 3.0.3 > 3.5 beta 1

3.0.3 > 3.0.4 > 3.0.5 > 3.0.6 > 3.0.7 done, than he upgrade script shows the installtion of vb3.5 but in the error he shows still 3.0.7 ?




Database error in vBulletin 3.0.7:

Invalid SQL:
ALTER TABLE userban ADD reason VARCHAR(250) DEFAULT '' NOT NULL;

MySQL Error : Duplicate column name 'reason'
Error Number : 1060


after hitting refresh




Database error in vBulletin 3.0.7:

Invalid SQL:
ALTER TABLE session ADD languageid SMALLINT UNSIGNED NOT NULL;

MySQL Error : Duplicate column name 'languageid'
Error Number : 1060
Date : Friday, June 10th 2005 @ 02:02:42 PM


should i post this to the bug tracker ?


gr33tz

No... this error is most likely due to a hack that you installed on your previous version. You will have to remove hacks from your 3.0.3 board to properly upgrade.

[weirdpixels]

Getting following Errors, while upgrading from 3.0.3 > 3.5 beta 1

3.0.3 > 3.0.4 > 3.0.5 > 3.0.6 > 3.0.7 done, than he upgrade script shows the installtion of vb3.5 but in the error he shows still 3.0.7 ?




Database error in vBulletin 3.0.7:

Invalid SQL:
ALTER TABLE userban ADD reason VARCHAR(250) DEFAULT '' NOT NULL;

MySQL Error : Duplicate column name 'reason'
Error Number : 1060



after hitting refresh




Database error in vBulletin 3.0.7:

Invalid SQL:
ALTER TABLE session ADD languageid SMALLINT UNSIGNED NOT NULL;

MySQL Error : Duplicate column name 'languageid'
Error Number : 1060
Date : Friday, June 10th 2005 @ 02:02:42 PM



should i post this to the bug tracker ?


gr33tz
I got the same sql errors as you are getting.

See the post I made about this.

Hopfully this will fix the problem you are having
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142067

[Darkblade]

Remember, its a beta release.
Yeah I know, is there any information on the Final version so far?

[H@K@N]

I got the same sql errors as you are getting.

See the post I made about this.

Hopfully this will fix the problem you are having
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142067

th@nks weirdpixels, have also fixed now my problem, seems to be coming from the AWS-Hack ...

gr33tz

[Marula]

Nevermind, I renewed my license


I am in the members download area and can't find the beta 1 download???

[mpadc]

congratulations guys! Love it

If Vbulletin software was a women id marry it :D

gonna install it 2nite

[belinea]

Is there a "vBulletin 3 white fixed"-Style für Beta1 available?

[Jerry]

I'm getting a few requests for a 3.0.7 to 3.5 importer, this will be released with 3.5 stable.

In the mean time if you really want/need to use an import to move your data (if you have a very hacked board etc), import to a default 3.0.7 then upgrade that to 3.5.

[weirdpixels]

th@nks weirdpixels, have also fixed now my problem, seems to be coming from the AWS-Hack ...

gr33tz
no problem and yea I have that hack installed too

[Fusion]

These errors are symptomatic that the upgrade script needs some sort of semi-intelligent error checking, eg, don't try to add new columns if the exact same column already exists. Just a note to the Devs... I had the same thing happen on my test-board when a glitch caused the DNS-entry to come back invalid, and it responded to my browser with a server not found. Seems the script still executed its step and when I re-ran it to make sure, there errors were all over the place.

[Creepshow]

NICE!!
Thank you, Jelsoft! :):D

[YoungCoder]

I would like to say a big thankyou to the devlopers on impex, i know it doesn't work for vb 3.5.0 yet, but it's still a great tool :)

[Jerry]

I would like to say a big thankyou to the devlopers on impex, i know it doesn't work for vb 3.5.0 yet, but it's still a great tool :)

Cheers :)

[Alex Older]

do i need the whole package?

I like the beta images from vb3.0.0 much better than the current vb3 images.

[Mainer82]

I have a question about the Fulltext Search... I'm a little unclear on this. Currently, the default vB search is enabled in the search index is ~3MB. When I enable fulltext search, that index moves up to 9MB.

Is this normal?

[Freddie Bingham]

I have a question about the Fulltext Search... I'm a little unclear on this. Currently, the default vB search is enabled in the search index is ~3MB. When I enable fulltext search, that index moves up to 9MB.

Is this normal?
Which index? You can empty the postindex and word tables once you enable Fulltext - I believe that option is presented to you when you make the switch.

[Mainer82]

Hi, this:

Index Usage: 8.91 MB

[Freddie Bingham]

Yes that is correct. You've create a Fulltext index, which is going to noticeably increase that value as it has indexed the text of all of your posts.

[GamerzWorld]

Going to wait for impex to come out for live boards i think :) My sql table is amess and therefore i need to extract the needed files >.< Just put it on my test board and seems im going to have fun with my style as well lol. Anyway n1 on release vbulletin :)

[Creepshow]

:eek: After seeing some of the problems that have been occuring with this Beta release, I think I'm going to wait for a stable 3.5.0 release before upgrading my vB board.

Way too risky at the moment. Yikes...

[Tavogfb]

thanks

[Mainer82]

Ah, I was under the impression that it would take up LESS space since it's using MySQL search features. It won't find everything that the vB search table found, such as PHP, HDD, MB, etc.

Do I need to reindex for fulltext?

[Steve Machol]

Do I need to reindex for fulltext?No. Fulltext does not use the postindex and consequently the db will be smalller.

[Freddie Bingham]

The database may not be smaller, just depends on if the fulltext index happens to be larger or smaller than our postindex table was. MySQL will not find any words shorter than 3 characters by default. vB won't find 'MB' either unless you changed the minimum words length to 2. You can also do that with MySQL, but I believe it requires a compile time setting to achieve. If you are using the boolean.

The fulltext search will definately find the word 'PHP' but this is where you have to really consider the needs of your site and the size of the community. If your site is like this one, then the word 'PHP' is going to appear in a lot of posts. Using the boolean search for 'PHP' is going to be resource intensive for such a site. That is why there is also the Natural Language option. It is going to find the posts that it thinks are most relevant with the word PHP - mostly those with the word appearing the most times. It is also going to do it while expending much less resources than the boolean search.

There is no magic bullet when it comes to searching. If you have a large forum then you will probably find the best balance of search features and load stability is going to come from allowing the majority of your users to only use the Natural Language search. They aren't going to get a return of every single post that contains the word but you will still be able to allow them to search instead of needing to disable searches altogether.

We still have the old search code in place if you find that it works best for you, which it may very well do for smaller forums.

[Mainer82]

So far I have found that boleen has returned the best results. Thanks for the explaination Freddie.

[Tailfeathers]

I upgraded my board and my bf's board (both live and active) to 3.5 from 3.0.7 and other than a small upgrading issue I had with my board, everything is working fine. The bugs are minor and everyone is enjoying the new features... even though it's a beta it went smoothly for the both of us. :)

[sleepyk]

is this good enough for a 300 member 8000 post active site or should i wait?

[VaaKo]

I just wanna know 1 thing..
when I download it, it said "unstable"
what's unstable in it ??

and how can I upgrade from 3.0.7 ?

will my hacks be lost ?

[Gri]

I just wanna know 1 thing..
when I download it, it said "unstable"
what's unstable in it ??

and how can I upgrade from 3.0.7 ?

will my hacks be lost ?
If you installed hacks depend on file editings, yes, they will be lost until you edit files again...

[VaaKo]

shoot!

what about the other questions ?

[fraghappy]

When do you guys expect that Beta 2 will be released? I've been very impressed with the changes so far, I'm just eager to see a stable release of this out as soon as possible. You guys have done some great work! You should really be proud.

[iardon]

It looks like the devs are plowing through the bugs rather quickly so hopefully a stable release is just around the corner and then I can finally join the vb family. :cool:

[zappsan]

meh, I downloaded it and tried to install: the language file is too big
I shortened it and it let me install. AJAX doesn't work for me. The forum still looks like a 3.0.6 for me o.o
I hate my damn host...

[zetetic]

meh, I downloaded it and tried to install: the language file is too big
I shortened it and it let me install. AJAX doesn't work for me. The forum still looks like a 3.0.6 for me o.o
I hate my damn host...
You might want to look at this thread (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?p=886143#post886143) about that language file error.

[zappsan]

You might want to look at this thread (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?p=886143#post886143) about that language file error.
Nope, I'm quite sure it's my host.
The error is differnt.
My host doesn't allow files over a size of 1,1MB, so I shortened it.
Now not only the phrases are missing, there is still a "vBulletin 3.0.6." thing on the bottom.

Thanks for the help,but I think I can't do anything other than find anew host.

[aseer]

Wow Nice ..

Thank You

[Neutral Singh]

How did you shortened the language file ?? Do you have SSH root access to your hosting server? In the members area, there are a number of options while downloading vBulletin... you can download only the xml files... this would reduce you downloaded filesize to below 1.1 mb... if you have SSH access available then try downloading compressed file with tar.gz extenstion. The file size is considerably small and you can then upload the single file into your server using ftp and upcompress it directly on your server through SSH root access... this process is 1000 times faster than uploading all those files using ftp.

You can know more about tar.gz files from the following link --> http://www.hostlibrary.com/easy_domain_migration_new_unix_server.html

I hope it helps.

Enjoy !!

[Dave#]

<hasn't read full thread>

Is there any performance improvements in this branch?

Any issues going from 2 > 3.5?

[rambo8521]

nice one! now all i need to do is buy that liscence!

Test AJAX too!

[Blindspot]

perhaps we need a thank you vbb3.5 team thread and a discussion thread, not alot of discussion going on here...

[xb_]

I can't access the source anymore to review, but i'm sure it is an improvement with previous versions.

I have only one question, this hooks system for plugins, is this the first step towards a pre compiled/encoded php distribution (like plesk tends to do) ?

[ultranerds]

Hi,

I can't seem to download :/ (latest version I see, if 3.0.7). I was hoping to write some plugins today :|

TIA

Andy

[WiBu]

It's there, latest unstable version. Top of the list.

[nexialys]

for development, my question is simple:

do you plan further development of the actual 3.5b1 structure, or wecan start recoding our hacks right now ?!

because i would not like to have to rebuild them later if you decide to reconstruct other parts of the system...

i'm happy with the actual release 3.5b1, don't see too much troubles with it, and i want my hacks to be upgraded for later uses... i hope that 3.5b2 or higher will not have structure changes...!!

[Grover]

do i need the whole package?

I like the beta images from vb3.0.0 much better than the current vb3 images. You are not alone on this. I am still hoping the default graphics get changed to more fitting images in VB 3.5.x

[majed15]

thank you :D

[AZone]

I am still hoping the default graphics get changed to more fitting images in VB 3.5.x Why don't you make graphics you like by yourself?

[c0bra]

for development, my question is simple:

do you plan further development of the actual 3.5b1 structure, or wecan start recoding our hacks right now ?!

because i would not like to have to rebuild them later if you decide to reconstruct other parts of the system...

i'm happy with the actual release 3.5b1, don't see too much troubles with it, and i want my hacks to be upgraded for later uses... i hope that 3.5b2 or higher will not have structure changes...!!

I doubt they plan anything significant in terms of structural changes to code seeing as this out there in beta testing now. I may have dreamed the following (I know they hate putting timetables on anything after 3.0 delays) but I'm sure one of the devs said they were hoping to have 3.5 out as the stable release within a matter of weeks with releatively few beta releases.

[1kether1]

Are the fixes for issues that are being addressed in the bug tracker being applied to the Beta 1 release (meaning, if we re-download Beta 1, those issues are now corrected), or will the fixes only be applied in Beta 2?

[daemon]

Are the fixes for issues that are being addressed in the bug tracker being applied to the Beta 1 release (meaning, if we re-download Beta 1, those issues are now corrected), or will the fixes only be applied in Beta 2?
The Beta 1 code you download from the members' area does not contain bug fixes. The next release of 3.5 will have all the bug fixes from Beta 1. So, no, the bug fixes are not applied live to the Beta 1 download package.

[Darkblade]

Is there any information on Beta 2 you could provide to us so far?

[1kether1]

The Beta 1 code you download from the members' area does not contain bug fixes. The next release of 3.5 will have all the bug fixes from Beta 1. So, no, the bug fixes are not applied live to the Beta 1 download package.
Thank you, daemon.

[digitalpoint]

Is there any information on Beta 2 you could provide to us so far?It should have a bunch of bug fixes. :)

[Creepshow]

Has anyone upgraded to vBulletin 3.5.0 Beta 1 and had no problems whatsoever? Or very little problems?

I'm desparate to upgrade, but don't wanna f*** up my forums.... :(

[Onimua]

Has anyone upgraded to vBulletin 3.5.0 Beta 1 and had no problems whatsoever? Or very little problems?

I'm desparate to upgrade, but don't wanna f*** up my forums.... :(

I have, and had no problems at all. :cool:

[feldon23]

I just wanna know 1 thing..
when I download it, it said "unstable"
what's unstable in it ??

and how can I upgrade from 3.0.7 ?

will my hacks be lost ? Anybody with these kinds of questions is NOT a candidate for vBulletin 3.5 Beta.

Nothing mean-spirited intended, but if you have hacks, modifications, etc. you should not be Beta-testing. There will be new versions of vB3.5 every few days.

[feldon23]

I can't access the source anymore to review, but i'm sure it is an improvement with previous versions.

I have only one question, this hooks system for plugins, is this the first step towards a pre compiled/encoded php distribution (like plesk tends to do) ?
I know they say "never say never", but it is EXTREMELY unlikely that vB will go the way of compiled/encrypted PHP.

[feldon23]

Is there any information on Beta 2 you could provide to us so far?
It will come out when there are either enough bugs found and fixed in Beta 1 to warrant it OR 1 major/critical bug found and fixed in Beta 1.

Jelsoft wisely does NOT publish release dates.

[zappsan]

How did you shortened the language file ?? Do you have SSH root access to your hosting server? In the members area, there are a number of options while downloading vBulletin... you can download only the xml files... this would reduce you downloaded filesize to below 1.1 mb... if you have SSH access available then try downloading compressed file with tar.gz extenstion. The file size is considerably small and you can then upload the single file into your server using ftp and upcompress it directly on your server through SSH root access... this process is 1000 times faster than uploading all those files using ftp.

You can know more about tar.gz files from the following link --> http://www.hostlibrary.com/easy_domain_migration_new_unix_server.html

I hope it helps.

Enjoy !!
Thanks for the help, but I already found out that it was my mistake.
because of the language file which was too big, my FTP porgramm stoppped uploading. I only uploaded a shortened version of the language file ( I shortened it), but there were still some other file which hadn't been uploaded...
well, I just found out and the installation worked :)

but this happened to me...
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs35.php?do=view&bugid=281
strange...

[beano33]

I have way to many hacks to consider installing before it's out of beta, but I'm interested in how 3.5 beta 1 has affected server load with those that have installed. I certainly can't afford to take on additional load, and if this release decreases load it will be most welcome. Thanks!

[tamarian]

What will be the official "minimum requirements" for vB 3.5 (Apache, PHP and MySQL)? And what will be the "recommended" versions?

[whitetigergrowl]

Installed and upgraded no problem. Smmmooooothhh installing. Although I see a few minor differences in the admin panel....it looks mostly the same. And I have found a few minor bugs, but will wait to see if they get fixed in the next few upgrades first.

And damn if the graphics don't need an upgrade too. I feel like I'm looking at a default template from a board in the late 1990's or something. At least button wise. Dang. Otherwise its all good. And I'm digging some of the new features. Can't wait for Gold...whenever that'll be.

[Onimua]

Installed and upgraded no problem. Smmmooooothhh installing. Although I see a few minor differences in the admin panel....it looks mostly the same. And I have found a few minor bugs, but will wait to see if they get fixed in the next few upgrades first.

And damn if the graphics don't need an upgrade too. I feel like I'm looking at a default template from a board in the late 1990's or something. At least button wise. Dang. Otherwise its all good.

Just a rumor, but I had heard that for 3.5.0 Gold there was going to be a new template. Not sure of if there's any solidness to it, but it's nice to think of something different. :)

[Weed]

Just a rumor, but I had heard that for 3.5.0 Gold there was going to be a new template. Not sure of if there's any solidness to it, but it's nice to think of something different. :)

I doubt it. What they have right now is really nice. At the most they may make minor improvements just to show a real new version (kind of the way IPB did from 1.0 to 1.1 to 1.2)

~Weed

[Lurk]

Oh? What did IPB do? For example, what kind of changes? I'm curious now that you mention it... :(

[whitetigergrowl]

Oh? What did IPB do? For example, what kind of changes? I'm curious now that you mention it... :(

Wouldn't it be easier to just go there and find out yourself?

[Grover]

Why don't you make graphics you like by yourself?
Good question, but my view is that a package which I pay for should provide me with graphics that at least FIT the overall style.

I may or may not like the total style (colours, layout, graphics), but at least provide a layout with graphics that suite it. I completely agree with all the people who have stated that the VB2 series had better fitting graphics. You might not like the brilliant :p purple colours back then, but at least the overall style was pretty good. It all fitted.

(text below is meant as tongue-in-cheek)

[ meant-to-be-humor-mode-on ]

To me, VB3 is like ordering/buying a great looking BMW. It has this fantastic engine and great overall style. You order this car, just to find out on delivery-day at the garage that it comes with a Pink bumber, an Ultra-purple left/right door-mirror and a Bright yellow door-handle..... would you feel comfortable riding this car? Well.... not really. And then imagine your salesman and technician saying to you: 'well..... if you don't like it, you can paint those parts over by yourself'.

:D

[ / meant-to-be-humor-mode-off ]

You see my point? I still strongly believe that the default graphics have much room for improvement, according to how they fit in the overall style.

Just my thoughts.

I am very pleased with the VB3 product and service, just a few things that I want to remark on:

- The default graphics don't fit the overall style. Hopefully new/alternative and especially usefull sets will be released. By Jelsoft themselves. I haven´t discovered any usefull graphics-sets by third parties. Apart from the great "Bad Bunny" Emoticons v1 (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81781) smiley-set.

- I was a little disappointed to discover that VB 3.5 didn't have much improved functionality at the user end (although I understand the reasons now more or less). I find waiting for more then a year for much needed new and improved functionality rather a long time. I hope this process can be speeded up for future releases, now we have the basis to support those new features : VB 3.5

Keep up the great work!

[pwaring]

Quick question: I already have a vBulletin license for 3.0.x for a particular domain, but am I allowed to try the beta on a different domain (or subdomain) to give it a test run and see how it works? I don't want to run something that's going to be constantly changing for a while on my main site but at the same time I would like to have a play with the 3.5 betas.

[Onimua]

Quick question: I already have a vBulletin license for 3.0.x for a particular domain, but am I allowed to try the beta on a different domain (or subdomain) to give it a test run and see how it works? I don't want to run something that's going to be constantly changing for a while on my main site but at the same time I would like to have a play with the 3.5 betas.
Yes, you can have one extra forum installation (provided it's not accessible to the public) on your domain. You would have to purchase another license if you want to have a board on another domain. :)

[CMilne]

I've already upgraded my live forums to 3.5.0, having no regrets so far. The only way it can be properly tested, is by being thrown straight into a big usage environment.

[KoC]

I´ve installed Vbulletin 3.5 Beta 1 on my local Server. It´s wunderfull:eek::eek:

I´am shocked:rolleyes:

[Neocorteqz]

Thanks for the realease. :)

[Floris]

Oh? What did IPB do? For example, what kind of changes? I'm curious now that you mention it... :(
This thread is not for IPB discussions, please take the conversation private ;) Thank you.


I have way to many hacks to consider installing before it's out of beta, but I'm interested in how 3.5 beta 1 has affected server load with those that have installed. I certainly can't afford to take on additional load, and if this release decreases load it will be most welcome. Thanks!
Server load did not increase on my sites. And actually, I've noticed a drop. But have to wait for a longer period of time to really have a good average.


Has anyone upgraded to vBulletin 3.5.0 Beta 1 and had no problems whatsoever? Or very little problems?

I'm desparate to upgrade, but don't wanna f*** up my forums.... :(
No need to swear.

Yes, I have upgraded all my forums and they're all working great.

No, I have not experienced any showstoppers and users did not complain.

Note: you can test on your localhost with a backup of your live- database to see if upgrade would give you any problems.


It should have a bunch of bug fixes. :)
It will at least have the fixed bugs. ;)

[Lurk]

Yeah, I run vB 3.5 beta 1, and there are only minor bugs.. And also, it's on the features that some members don't even know about.

[Zachery]

The thread was moderated, please take the moderators suggestions of keeping your language on topic and if you need to discuss your objections please use the pm system.

[Electronic Punk]

All installed with no issues :)

[Khaleel]

WELL EXCITIED!!!! Runs to downloads! Thankgod im licenced!:cool:

[Reverend]

Upgraded from 3.0.7.

No probs so far.

[Blootix.com]

Do styles for vB 3.0.x work for 3.5?

Also, I need some advice on when to upgrade to the latest version. I have around 30 hacks installed for 3.0.7... do those just get erased automatically?

[Onimua]

Do styles for vB 3.0.x work for 3.5?

Also, I need some advice on when to upgrade to the latest version. I have around 30 hacks installed for 3.0.7... do those just get erased automatically?

Yep, since every file is completely overwritten to accomodate the new changes. You're going to either reinstall them (and probably edit them to work wit hthe new code) or wait for a Plugin version.

As for styles... they work for the most part. You have to edit some templated here and there to get them to work fully, but for the most part they work. :)

[Nukey]

I've upgraded my live forums to 3.5.0 without any major problems. There are a few bugs here and there but nothing major.

[Blootix.com]

What about the hacks that edit database? What happens to the hack tables, edited columns? Do they get erased or transferred?

[IPB User]

Also. Will there be an easier skinning system. Thats why im still with IPB because my designer wants to charge me like 30$ more to skin for vB because its too hard. Thanks!:D

[TruthElixirX]

I tried the IPB skinning and it seemed much mreo difficult to me. Maybe mroe extensive or easier for heavily gfx people. But yeah..you mgiht wanna look into that urself ot be a mreo educated consumer.

[IPB User]

No all my friends say the same thing. IPB is alot easier and vB is extremely hard do to a bad template bit layout and stuff. I forget what else they said.

[FASherman]

But yeah..you mgiht wanna look into that urself ot be a mreo educated consumer.

:eek:

[IPB User]

If more than 10 people tell me the same thing about something im going to go with it.

[FASherman]

If more than 10 people tell me the same thing about something im going to go with it.

Good plan. Saves you the trouble of thinking for yourself. What exactly do your comments have to do with this beta release again? I can do without the IPB infomercial.

[IPB User]

Im suggesting an easier template system so that I can switch to vB and my designer wont charge me alot of extra money for the the "hard to work with template system" that ive been talking about.

[FASherman]

Define 'easier'. I use both and don't find VB3 to be any harder to work with or understand. Its just different. Maybe the problem is your designer doesn't want to learn a second system. Most of us design our own styles. Say it with me now... STYLES... not skins.

[Onimua]

... how "hard" is it? You're not necessarily missing with direct CSS from scratch, and the templating system is rediculously easy. I would pay more to have a design done in IPB than vBulletin.

But this thread is not about discussing IPB, now is it? I would say take it into a private thread, or mention this in the 3.5.0 Feedback and Suggestion forum.

[IPB User]

Thats ok. Im making a new topic now.:D

[TruthElixirX]

:eek:


die. :p. My typing skills suck. I know. I can spell better..I just never spell check unless its soemthing important..;_;....I'm sorry..forgivem e.

Heh..see thats a perfect example.

[FASherman]

die. :p. My typing skills suck. I know. I can spell better..I just never spell check unless its soemthing important..;_;....I'm sorry..forgivem e.

Heh..see thats a perfect example.

Let he who is without stones cast the first sin.

[ImportPassion.com]

so am I to assume that ppl that do not use the default skin are SOL? How are we supposed to figure out what needs to be changed in templates if we don't use the original? We just need to wait and hope the makers of the skin release an upgraded version of their skin for 3.5?

[TruthElixirX]

If you do not use the default skin try makngi your own. It isn't that tough really..just takes about an hour to make a decent one.

I wil lbe re-releasing my two public skins for free whenever vb 3.5.0 final is released. (The 2.0 versions should be shiny sicne we're gongi to try soem new stuyff.;)) Not that anyone really uses mine right now.

[Ace]

Not entirely SOL...I have released Steel Blue for 3.5 BETA.

Currently it is sitting in the submission queue here, but it's available from vbt... http://www.vbulletintemplates.com/mods/showthread.php?t=8113

[Forum-Style]

If more than 10 people tell me the same thing about something im going to go with it.


Well i can give you around 30 :) We have staff that own vB and IPB, and they all use vB now on there main site, and make styles for our databases. And ourselfs..... well we must have been the 2nd most know site for IPB styles online, and we also can say that vb is just as easy, the differece your designer is having is that items are called different parts, and there more to style, as there is so much more extra on vB.

Its NOT harder, just different :)

[sabret00the]

yay :)