vBulletin 3.5 Beta 1 Release Discussion [Archive] - Page 2

Mainer82

Mon 13th Jun '05, 7:41am

In my experience with all of the other alternatives, the vB 3.x template systme is the best. It's so easy to edit a template. It's improved even more now with the template compare system.

I have used all other software and am not biased in this reguard.

ultranerds

Mon 13th Jun '05, 7:49am

It's there, latest unstable version. Top of the list.
Thanks for the reply. I still don't see it though :/ I've attached an image of what I see in the "download" select box. Basically, I can only see 3.0.7 as the latest version still :|

TIA

Andy

Boxy

Mon 13th Jun '05, 9:00am

If your Members' Area download access has expired you will only be able to download the versions that were available before your license or download access expired.

To be able to download newer versions and updates you will need to renew your access.

ForYou

Mon 13th Jun '05, 9:22am

Hello ,

I was install the vBulletin Version 3.5.0 Beta 1 without any problem and evry thing is OK ,

but my qustion now ,

when i need to edit some post there is no problem and i can edit it when i click on it , now why we can't do edit on the sig like the post , it's realy very nice if it is ,

I mean of all , why there is no quick edit on Signature ,

Regards
With my regards for all vBulletin Team ,

Mainer82

Mon 13th Jun '05, 10:58am

I think that would be too much to be able to Quick edit the signature. It's not really an important feature to add.

TruthElixirX

Mon 13th Jun '05, 10:58am

I'd suggest maknig a suggestion thread.

shex

Mon 13th Jun '05, 11:28am

greeeeeeeeeeeeeeat

Transverse Styles

Mon 13th Jun '05, 11:56am

how come this AJAX works here, but not in the test?

edit: nevermind. i see that i have to double click. cool.

Zonex

Mon 13th Jun '05, 7:56pm

153 fixed bugs as of this posting
looks like beta2 is gonna be a while and should be much much better

Aerith_Freak

Mon 13th Jun '05, 10:40pm

Roll on Beta 2 I say, Beta 1 has been giving me no end of hassle lately.

Onimua

Mon 13th Jun '05, 10:53pm

I've ran into a couple of minor problems, but noticed they've been fixed in CVS, so that's good news.

I thought there would be updates frequently given the fact that this was a "rapid-fire" beta process. Like every 100 bugs or so, an update would be released. Prevents a ton of duplicate bugs being reported, as well as a more stable version growing quickly, and any new bugs could be spotted right away.

Just one of my random thoughts.

dennis-sp

Tue 14th Jun '05, 1:35am

Great work!:)

ultranerds

Tue 14th Jun '05, 3:33am

Hi Boxy,

Thanks for your reply. I see what you mean now +) I'll get our accounts to put a new renewal through for that licence (I can download it for our other sites, which are still activly licensed at the moment). Thanks for letting me know what to do http://images.vbulletin.com/images_vb3/smilies/smile.gif

Cheers

Andy

Deviant++

Tue 14th Jun '05, 3:56am

I wonder if it'll be possible to extract just the user db and their settings along with all posts / threads and import into a fresh install of 3.5 in the coming days.

Colin F

Tue 14th Jun '05, 4:51am

That could be done with ImpEx, but the ImpEx module for vB 3.5 won't be released until 3.5 Gold comes out...

DelphiVillage

Tue 14th Jun '05, 8:07am

hi jelsoft,

i installed this in my /testvb/ it is awesome nice nice good one there the only question i have is when this becomes stable how do i upgrade it on my live site WITHOUT losing all my data (posts threads users (and there preferences) will there be a "howto" when this becomes stable ?

PageUp

Tue 14th Jun '05, 9:09am

It took 9 months (Jun 14th 2003 - Mar 24th 2004) for vB3 to go Gold, after the first public Beta release. 9 months??? Will vB 3.5 Gold take that long too?

9 months is a LOT of time...

feldon23

Tue 14th Jun '05, 9:14am

The language system had to be gutted and rebuilt AFTER vB3 entered beta. vB3 entered beta way too early.

chaeberle

Tue 14th Jun '05, 9:18am

It took 9 months (Jun 14th 2003 - Mar 24th 2004) for vB3 to go Gold, after the first public Beta release. 9 months??? Will vB 3.5 Gold take that long too?

9 months is a LOT of time...
Let it.

Look, anyone who's a gamer here knows what happens when a software company lets itself get pressured into releasing early. Whether its the publisher or the customers pushing for release, its ALWAYS a mistake.

vBulletin, you take as long as you NEED to get vB 3.5.0 to where its really ready to be released. We aren't going anywhere and our end users aren't going to be happy if we end up upgrading to a 3.5.0 that doesn't work right.

PageUp

Tue 14th Jun '05, 10:32am

I understand that. I'm just saying that 9 months is a long time. If devs could give us some indication how long (in months) will this take, that would be great. I mean, they are not doing this for the first time. This way I would know if it's worth making modifications on the current version, or should I wait for 3.5.0.

And BTW, I like 3.5.0, especially how it's trying to be more SE friendly. Development is going in the right direction IMO.

TruthElixirX

Tue 14th Jun '05, 12:00pm

Revanza

Tue 14th Jun '05, 12:52pm

Let it.

Look, anyone who's a gamer here knows what happens when a software company lets itself get pressured into releasing early. Whether its the publisher or the customers pushing for release, its ALWAYS a mistake.

vBulletin, you take as long as you NEED to get vB 3.5.0 to where its really ready to be released. We aren't going anywhere and our end users aren't going to be happy if we end up upgrading to a 3.5.0 that doesn't work right.You wouldn't happen to be a Knights of the Old Republic II gamer, would you? That quote reminded me of 90 % of the population of the Obsidian forums ;)

chaeberle

Tue 14th Jun '05, 1:47pm

No - after KOTOR II came out, I heard it wasn't so hot and didn't buy it.

But it just goes to show that gamers have been learning from the mistakes of game companies. When a game releases a really buggy crap-fest because they rushed it out to meet some arbitrary deadline (like Christmas), the game (and the game company) suffers badly.

Several of Atari's last big releases are huge examples of this.

feldon23

Tue 14th Jun '05, 3:16pm

I understand that. I'm just saying that 9 months is a long time. If devs could give us some indication how long (in months) will this take, that would be great. NO RELEASE DATES. EVER. PERIOD.

Why can't people take NO for an answer?

3.0.7 is rock solid. Actually, whether people set up their site for 3.0.7 or wait for 3.5 is clearer than it's ever been. Since all hacks are, or will be rewritten (which,

It's not like we're all sitting around using Quark XPress 3.3 (which was antiquated when it came out) for 4 years waiting for an update.

chaeberle

Tue 14th Jun '05, 3:22pm

No no - I think there SHOULD be a Release Date.

And the release date should be announced when they're ready to release it. :)

southernlady

Tue 14th Jun '05, 3:56pm

3.0.7 is rock solid.

Actually, if you look at the number of bugs still being reports THERE I'm not sure you'd say that. LOL But it's far more solid than 3.5.0. But it's like saying XP is rock solid...I wouldn't go that far...just because it's been around for Lord knows how many years, doesn't mean it's all fixed. Liz

Cole2026

Tue 14th Jun '05, 4:04pm

I doubt 3.5 wil ltake 9 months to go gold. vb 3.0 was a full re-write of the code. This is adding soem features and changing some coding. It will take a long time; I'm not saying htat. But it sohuldn't take as lnog for 3.5.

3.5 was just about a full rewrite of the code(at least I am pretty sure.) Almost all of the PHP was rewritten in 3.5 as OOP code. (But the templates changed minimally.) I would say 3 months for it to go gold (but a stable release maybe sometime July.) :)

ShadyNight

Tue 14th Jun '05, 5:43pm

Aww come on now guys. It takes nine months to cook a baby up, why not software. ;)

YES nine months of pregancy is damned long time once you get to the last month.
Seriously though, I do agree with the whole "let's not rush this" statment. I'd rather have a nice stable final than something that is shackey just because folks demanded it.

advis0r

Tue 14th Jun '05, 8:34pm

Thank you for continously upgrading a script that lets me be a lazy arse.

^ Hats off!

DJDarknez

Tue 14th Jun '05, 11:47pm

I searched for it real quick, but didn't see anything.

When we upgrade our forums (i.e. 3.0.6 -> 3.0.7) we have to reinstall all the hacks and whatnot, yes? (i've only run 3.0.7, so I'm not positive)

With this new plugin system, will that change? We will no longer have to reinstall when we go from 3.5.0 to, say, 3.5.1?

feldon23

Wed 15th Jun '05, 12:30am

That's what we're going to find out during this Beta period... Just how many hacks or what percent of hacks can be done with the new techniques that Jelsoft has added. I think we'll all still be doing some "open showthread.php and find this" and "replace it with this" but maybe to a lesser degree. If they can save us 10 minutes, that's 10 minutes x however many versions we go through.

The Bad News:
The original hope that hacks would carry over from, say, 3.5.0 to 3.5.1 with NO effort has been dashed.

The new plugin system does not address template changes necessary for each plugin. Truthfully, template changes are often the most time-consuming and befuddling part of installing and maintaining hacks.

I cannot reiterate enough. When installing a hack, add comment tags such as:



The Good News
vB3.5 now has a built-in template comparison feature as well as a template history viewer which should both help considerably.

Plugins will be able to add themselves to the AdminCP with no file editing on our parts. Hopefully we'll see better, more customizable plugins in that regard.

Plugins can now add code to the core functionality of vB without modifying PHP files, which should make add-on module development a snap. What remains a problem is all of the plugins which extend or tweak existing functionality in vB.

DJDarknez

Wed 15th Jun '05, 1:20pm

Feldon -

So, to summarize, we'll still have to re-install "hacks" even if they're plugins. Oh well, I guess nothings that easy :rolleyes:

And oh yeah, those template changes are very time consuming! I certainly don't mind editing the files, but when you have to do it to 8 different styles....

ForYou

Wed 15th Jun '05, 2:00pm

Hello ,

I need to ask is the empty folder im private message have a Bug , becuase when i need to empty folder and click on it there is no message delete and evry thing still and not delete ,

sorry for my english but all the problem in the empty folder that in private message ,

regards

feldon23

Wed 15th Jun '05, 2:03pm

What I proposed in another thread is to borrow from Mambo.

Allow hack developers to package a PHP "setup.php" file, and XML files for admincp, plugin, phrases, and usergroup permissions all into a single ZIP file.

You upload the ZIP file through the AdminCP, it places the files where they are supposed to go, and then executes setup.php.

Now what would be even cooler is if the instructions for plugins that ADD functionality (instead of modifying existing functionality) included going into your templates and adding lines like:



etc.

(The last number corresponds to the # of changes in a template.)

Then you upload the ZIP file, it places the XML files in the correct places, and setup.php searches through all your templates for the lines above and adds the correct code.

Does this save any time or complexity?

Theoretically, when a new version of vB comes out, you could either hide the plugins in the templates or uninstall the plugin altogether. Then you'd be comparing apples to apples.

House_of_Crazed

Wed 15th Jun '05, 7:57pm

Um... No, Feldon! lol

It adds MORE complexity... Because most of the vbulletin software out there has been customized to hell and back...

ANd I'm sure there's some kind of security issue associated with t hat...

Onimua

Wed 15th Jun '05, 9:14pm

*blink* I just now noticed vBulletin's now running on vBulltin 3.5.0 Beta 2. o.0;

Andreas

Wed 15th Jun '05, 9:15pm

*blink* I just now noticed vBulletin's now running on vBulltin 3.5.0 Beta 2. o.0;
Yep, /me noticed that too

greywolff

Wed 15th Jun '05, 9:16pm

shesh if you hadn't of said something i would have totallymissed it :)

M1th

Wed 15th Jun '05, 9:17pm

wow, this looks awesome!

timmed

Wed 15th Jun '05, 9:32pm

this is looking nice :D

Floris

Wed 15th Jun '05, 9:34pm

Check out the announcement regarding the new editors which you will get in beta 2, and feel free to comment on beta 2 (anticipation) in this thread: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142953

Onimua

Wed 15th Jun '05, 9:40pm

Mephisteus

Wed 15th Jun '05, 9:41pm

Noticing nothing new :p

Its a ripoff!

*awaiting 3.5.0 final eagerly :)*

House_of_Crazed

Wed 15th Jun '05, 9:56pm

Hmmm.... Interesting changes...

And the link that Floris gave, don't work...

QUESTION (regarding the ieSpell thing) ... Will it be configurable permissions-wise?? For who can use it and who cannot? :)

Please say yes :p lol

Onimua

Wed 15th Jun '05, 9:58pm

Floris

Wed 15th Jun '05, 9:59pm

Kier

Wed 15th Jun '05, 10:38pm

ieSpell uses no server resources at all, and we will not be providing tools to control who can or can not use it, as anyone can download ieSpell and use it to spell check their posts to your board, regardless or whether they invoke it by clicking a button you provide or not.

AZone

Wed 15th Jun '05, 11:51pm

I see Beta 2 on top of the forum, or is it hallucination?

Onimua

Wed 15th Jun '05, 11:53pm

It's real. :D I'm guessing we'll get our copies any time within the next few days I'm hoping...

Aeolian

Thu 16th Jun '05, 1:11am

ahhh!!!
vB all the way!!
eagerly waiting for the next BIG release in forum history..
:)

Neutral Singh

Thu 16th Jun '05, 1:17am

Quick Reply Box has been revolutionized in Beta 2... Beta 2 here i come !!

Neutral Singh

Thu 16th Jun '05, 1:20am

** self-edited **

Bad_i_BILL

Thu 16th Jun '05, 1:22am

** self-edited **

Too much sugar is BAD!

KanyeWest

Thu 16th Jun '05, 1:33am

weshould make a new thread for vBulletin 3.5.0 Beta 2

Neutral Singh

Thu 16th Jun '05, 1:34am

Lol yeah, actually the QR box did not refresh first time around so posted the same message again... And I agree too much sugar is BAD! but appreciating a good job done is GOOD!! Right? It does not take away much from myside. :)

Colin F

Thu 16th Jun '05, 2:56am

Who can tell me for what the little arrow next to the attachment link in the WYSIWYG is?

Mayers

Thu 16th Jun '05, 3:13am

Hmm this new quick reply in Beta 2 looks fun.

Onimua

Thu 16th Jun '05, 3:18am

Hmm this new quick reply in Beta 2 looks fun.
That's because it is fun. :D

AzhriaLilu

Thu 16th Jun '05, 3:28am

Oh my, this is getting tastier by the day!

CMilne

Thu 16th Jun '05, 3:54am

Quick Reply Box has been revolutionized in Beta 2... Beta 2 here i come !!
Don't forget who pointed out the error that made jelsoft think about implementing it a LITTLE bit sooner :p

I so cant wait for 3.5 Beta 2!

* and * it isn't just the qr box, check out make post, it has the new WYSIWYG editor!

MrNase

Thu 16th Jun '05, 4:02am

It's not a quick reply anymore..

It's a nice quick reply ;)
Well done, can't wait till beta 2 is out :)

GamerzWorld

Thu 16th Jun '05, 6:21am

So whats new in beta 2 apart from bug fixes and the new message formating options? I noticed something about a post seperator on that link to the discussion on its announcement

Aerith_Freak

Thu 16th Jun '05, 7:03am

Well the thing up the top says BETA 2. Just need to wait for it in the Members Area now.

greywolff

Thu 16th Jun '05, 7:09am

this release keeps getting better and better :) i cant wait to see what the cms has to hold :)

mentalrz

Thu 16th Jun '05, 7:23am

Very cool!!!!!!!!!

DelphiVillage

Thu 16th Jun '05, 7:57am

hmmmmm at the bottom of this site it says

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.0 Beta 2
Copyright ©2000 - 2005, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

current realease is beta 1 am i missing something here ??

Aerith_Freak

Thu 16th Jun '05, 8:07am

hmmmmm at the bottom of this site it says

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.0 Beta 2
Copyright ©2000 - 2005, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

current realease is beta 1 am i missing something here ??

This means that BETA2 will most likely be released sometime today.

Jerry

Thu 16th Jun '05, 8:07am

hmmmmm at the bottom of this site it says

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.0 Beta 2
Copyright ©2000 - 2005, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

current realease is beta 1 am i missing something here ??

vbulletin.com is running beta 2, though its not released yet.

DelphiVillage

Thu 16th Jun '05, 8:15am

vbulletin.com is running beta 2, though its not released yet.

okay i can't wait to play with it i love the new image verification in sendmessage.php and the pluginsystem nice one jelsoft !

Floris

Thu 16th Jun '05, 8:43am

ahhh!!!
vB all the way!!
eagerly waiting for the next BIG release in forum history..
:)
We do so time after time! :)

Aerith_Freak

Thu 16th Jun '05, 8:56am

It's coming. I know this because my members area download section has suddenly screwed up on me. xD

southernlady

Thu 16th Jun '05, 9:17am

Yeah, bad screwed up...I just went there...now mine is good thru May 06! And I just got THIS message!

This license has expired.
If you believe this should not have happened, please contact us (../contact.php).

BIG OOPS, guess I better wait a bit, see if it fixes itself and if not, contact them. Liz

ianskate

Thu 16th Jun '05, 9:22am

The new WYSIWYG is so sweet!

Forum-Style

Thu 16th Jun '05, 9:34am

Yeah, bad screwed up...I just went there...now mine is good thru May 06! And I just got THIS message!

BIG OOPS, guess I better wait a bit, see if it fixes itself and if not, contact them. Liz

Ditto there, showing same for me GASP!! NOOOOOO i want it :P I got months left hehe, /me starts to think damn time flys a year already gone..... Checkes date, nope it not...... hehe

Hmmm could that be a bug ?, as in one this post, i quoted the above that had a quote in it already and it missed that part when i posted it.....

Anyone else confirm this as a bug ?

mentalrz

Thu 16th Jun '05, 9:35am

PLEASE TELL ME BETA 2 IS STABLE! I want to update RaGEZONE.com so bad on this new system!

Can any mod or staff give some confirmation if its stable or not:eek:

edit -- also says my licience expired lol

Forum-Style

Thu 16th Jun '05, 9:38am

Ditto there, showing same for me GASP!! NOOOOOO i want it :P I got months left hehe, /me starts to think damn time flys a year already gone..... Checkes date, nope it not...... hehe

Hmmm could that be a bug ?, as in one this post, i quoted the above that had a quote in it already and it missed that part when i posted it.....

Anyone else confirm this as a bug ?

Test Quote 3rd quote impression for BUG test :P

And yes be great if stable, thou unlikely yet. Not that i am in a rush, i got 4 months to play with it before we use it on a live forum :)

Mike Sullivan

Thu 16th Jun '05, 9:46am

badblu01

Thu 16th Jun '05, 9:48am

its good to see more goodies in beta 2 hopefully by the time the 3.5 gold is released we will have more goodies in VB

feldon23

Thu 16th Jun '05, 9:51am

its good to see more goodies in beta 2 hopefully by the time the 3.5 gold is released we will have more goodies in VB
I always have mixed feelings when Betas keep adding new features.

I love the new features, but the testing cycle for those new features is shorter.

Kier

Thu 16th Jun '05, 9:55am

Technically these aren't new features being added between betas - they've all been in development for some time, we just remove those bits we felt need more internal testing from the public release versions.

feldon23

Thu 16th Jun '05, 9:57am

Ah cool. Well it's all very exciting. No question about that.

southernlady

Thu 16th Jun '05, 10:22am

Yeah, it's fixed now...Geeze...scare a woman on her birthday no less! Liz

digitalhome

Thu 16th Jun '05, 10:23am

Great work folks, I'm looking forward to the stable version.

For me the critical part is the upgrade and the documentation which explains how to upgrade so IMHO please take an extra day before release to review the docs!

Aerith_Freak

Thu 16th Jun '05, 10:40am

I'm excited at the prospect of BETA 2 today, already itching to upgrade to it. The new additions seem good and the bug fixes will be welcome.

GamerzWorld

Thu 16th Jun '05, 11:05am

Mainer82

Thu 16th Jun '05, 12:05pm

Just wondering if there's an option to disable the IE Spellcheck and switch between standard and WYSIWYG buttons?

floleb7

Thu 16th Jun '05, 12:22pm

pm as thread could be in 3.X or only for 4.X ? or never :D

(if this option/feature is still under consideration for later)

AZone

Thu 16th Jun '05, 1:27pm

Is it possible that Beta 2 won't be public and the next public version will be Beta 3 or whatever?

Oblivion Knight

Thu 16th Jun '05, 1:39pm

Is it possible that Beta 2 won't be public and the next public version will be Beta 3 or whatever?I doubt it.. Give it a day or so and I'm sure we'll see Beta 2 released to the public.

Lumina

Thu 16th Jun '05, 1:40pm

In other words: when will be Beta 2? :D

belindaj

Thu 16th Jun '05, 1:45pm

(currently refreshing the members area for the ten thousandth time hoping to see a beta 2 release for download ...) :D

Man oh man these improvements are just exceptional! Can't wait!

feldon23

Thu 16th Jun '05, 1:46pm

Spellcheck is a button which triggers an added function in IE. It's just a button. Spellcheck can be done even if the button is absent. Why do you want to remove the button/disable it?

Giray

Thu 16th Jun '05, 2:01pm

Will future versions of 3.5 have support for Safari in the "Reply to Thread" dialogue? I'm so frustrated at having to create links etc. in the javascript pop up window :(

Colin F

Thu 16th Jun '05, 2:05pm

Seeing this post (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=890647&postcount=32), I think that's a Safari problem, so you'd have to wait until they produce a fix.

digitalpoint

Thu 16th Jun '05, 3:06pm

PLEASE TELL ME BETA 2 IS STABLE!If it was stable it wouldn't be beta, would it? :)

BamaStangGuy

Thu 16th Jun '05, 3:10pm

PLEASE TELL ME BETA 2 IS STABLE! [/b]

Oh my god please tell me your joking

Jerry

Thu 16th Jun '05, 4:20pm

Oh my god please tell me your joking

I was going to say the same thing though I thought it must be a joke.

MrZeropage

Thu 16th Jun '05, 4:25pm

According to the announcement about the new editor (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142935) I missed any information that tables are finally possible, like seen at WYSIWYG Pro (http://www.wysiwygpro.com/demos.htm)

Kier

Thu 16th Jun '05, 4:49pm

The new editor it technically capable of producing tables, however it will not do so, as there is no bbcode tag that represents a table or tabular data, so it would be pointless at this time.

Mainer82

Thu 16th Jun '05, 6:03pm

Spellcheck is a button which triggers an added function in IE. It's just a button. Spellcheck can be done even if the button is absent. Why do you want to remove the button/disable it?
Becuase I do not want to require my users to download an add-on, that's why.

ShadyNight

Thu 16th Jun '05, 6:43pm

I think the spell checker (even if an add on) will have quite a few of my "spelling & grammar Nazi's" (their terms ;) ) switching back to IE, or at the very least, heckling others into doing so.

VERY nice addition. Thanks!

(and which I have already put to use for this post. ;) )

Cole2026

Thu 16th Jun '05, 6:55pm

The spelling add-on is nice, but I would rather my users not download a 3rd party app to do so(And I like them better on FF)

Floris

Thu 16th Jun '05, 7:23pm

The grey editor looks sweety :B~

GreggH

Thu 16th Jun '05, 8:11pm

The spelling add-on is nice, but I would rather my users not download a 3rd party app to do so(And I like them better on FF)

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142935&highlight=spellbound

"Support for other browsers will be implemented as soon as tools with sufficient web-integration systems become available. (Nudge nudge to SpellBound developers)."

-- I don't see what's wrong with having users download a 3rd party app. I'd rather it be done on the client side since it won't use the site's resources.

PtP

Thu 16th Jun '05, 8:26pm

Switch editor mode is fabulous, this will be an invaluable tool, well done guys..

mentalrz

Thu 16th Jun '05, 10:20pm

Oh my god please tell me your jokingWhy would i ask such a question if my intent was being a joke?

Onimua

Thu 16th Jun '05, 10:55pm

Why would i ask such a question if my intent was being a joke?
You were being serious? The only version that are stable are Gold versions...

whitetigergrowl

Thu 16th Jun '05, 11:10pm

Why would i ask such a question if my intent was being a joke?

Welcome newb.... to the world of the internet. Where no Betas are ever considered stable. Ever. And if you're lucky you'll get Betas 3,4,5, and maybe 6 before being considered stable. And lets not forget those little things called 'RC'.

Aerith_Freak

Fri 17th Jun '05, 12:17am

Why would i ask such a question if my intent was being a joke?

Because I think the fact that it's BETA would pretty much imply that it's not stable?

MrZeropage

Fri 17th Jun '05, 2:02am

The new editor it technically capable of producing tables, however it will not do so, as there is no bbcode tag that represents a table or tabular data, so it would be pointless at this time.Well, easy to create the needed tags [table] [tr] [td] ...

It would be fantastic to have tables in postings

Neutral Singh

Fri 17th Jun '05, 2:16am

Yes, Being able to add tables in posts would invaluable addition.

Onimua

Fri 17th Jun '05, 2:42am

Well, easy to create the needed tags [table] [tr] [td] ...

It would be fantastic to have tables in postings
Can't that be done with custom BBcode?

poolking

Fri 17th Jun '05, 2:48am

Welcome newb.... to the world of the internet. Where no Betas are ever considered stable. Ever. And if you're lucky you'll get Betas 3,4,5, and maybe 6 before being considered stable. And lets not forget those little things called 'RC'.

I'd take a look in the mirror before commenting on what others say on here judging by your past efforts.

Network

Fri 17th Jun '05, 6:10am

Great news!

MrZeropage

Fri 17th Jun '05, 6:58am

Can't that be done with custom BBcode?Yes, it's no Problem to do [table] [tr] [td] ect. with BBcode, but I think it is much efford for users to insert that tags manually.

So in implementation in WYSIWYG-editor would be fantastic - this demo (http://www.wysiwygpro.com/demos/demo1.php) shows how to easily insert tables ...

Kier

Fri 17th Jun '05, 10:28am

There are no plans to add support for WYSIWYG editing of tables, or the addition of [table] bbcode tags at this time.

welo

Fri 17th Jun '05, 10:36am

Was sure hoping this version would finally have the ability to file sent PMs to a specified folder... ;)

(Oh, and what happened to the submit button directly under message previews?)

ForYou

Fri 17th Jun '05, 12:58pm

Hello Kier ,

I need to ask about when we can download the Beta2 from Memeber control panel becuse i hope the beta 2 fix the problem what is was in beta 1 , please let us know exactly when ,

Regards

Aeolian

Fri 17th Jun '05, 1:08pm

If u edit ur post with 'Ajax' feature, its not visible unless u refreash the page..
when ur done editing, u just click anywhere outside the edit box.. is it so?

editing..

AZone

Fri 17th Jun '05, 1:22pm

when ur done editing, u just click anywhere outside the edit box.. is it so? I press Tab key and see updated post instantly without refreshing.

Zachery

Fri 17th Jun '05, 1:42pm

Works fine for me, what browser are you using

Amiga

Fri 17th Jun '05, 1:56pm

Looks great. Im really looking forward to the final version of it. The plug-in system sounds great.

I just hope it can live up to expectations.

I have a test board currently installed and working perfectly, we're playing with the styles on it so that we don't have any time where our forum is without the styles it needs after we fully upgrade.

:)

mentalrz

Fri 17th Jun '05, 3:28pm

Because I think the fact that it's BETA would pretty much imply that it's not stable? Well considering its in beta 2 and is more or less functional as we can see here and the forum is still running, im quite sure you can say its stable..

None the less if a newbie is what you brand me, a newbie is what i shall be.

;)

digitalpoint

Fri 17th Jun '05, 3:38pm

Functional and stable are not the same thing. :) It's definitely functional enough to run a forum. Mine is running beta 1 with 200,000+ posts, few hundred people online at any time. But there are definitely some annoyances with it that have all been fixed according to the bug tracker (except for one) for beta 2.

Aeolian

Fri 17th Jun '05, 5:36pm

I press Tab key and see updated post instantly without refreshing.
thanx.. it works just fine if u press tab :)

Zachery.. it works now.. i use IE 6..

Onimua

Fri 17th Jun '05, 9:07pm

Still want to know what happened to the whole "rapid fire" update/release part... :rolleyes:

whitetigergrowl

Fri 17th Jun '05, 9:22pm

I'd take a look in the mirror before commenting on what others say on here judging by your past efforts.

Show my past efforts. Please. I'm not exactly asking about a stable release being available during Beta am I? And none of my past questions have been so obviously newbish. Take a look yourself. Because obviously you didn't the first time. :rolleyes:

GreggH

Fri 17th Jun '05, 9:27pm

Still want to know what happened to the whole "rapid fire" update/release part... :rolleyes:

Yeah, its been a whole 8 days since Beta 1 release. :rolleyes: I think a new release even every few weeks would still qualify as rapid fire.

Aerith_Freak

Fri 17th Jun '05, 11:03pm

Well considering its in beta 2 and is more or less functional as we can see here and the forum is still running, im quite sure you can say its stable..

None the less if a newbie is what you brand me, a newbie is what i shall be.

;)

If it was stable it wouldn't be called a BETA version. It'd just be called 3.5.0.

Yes it might be functional, doesn't mean it's completely stable though.

poolking

Sat 18th Jun '05, 12:43am

Show my past efforts. Please. I'm not exactly asking about a stable release being available during Beta am I? And none of my past questions have been so obviously newbish. Take a look yourself. Because obviously you didn't the first time. :rolleyes:
I can't be bothered to list them seeing as you appear to be in denial and this really isn't the place to go into this, so continue posting rubbish and be-littling people and I'll continue pointing it out. Think about what you post and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Now back on topic...

whitetigergrowl

Sat 18th Jun '05, 1:05am

I can't be bothered to list them seeing as you appear to be in denial and this really isn't the place to go into this, so continue posting rubbish and be-littling people and I'll continue pointing it out. Think about what you post and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Now back on topic...

LOL Good job not pointing anything out. You make claims then don't back them up? Wow...thanks for pointing out stuff you can't point out.:rolleyes: Next time, back up what you claim, or don't post at all. Now...back on topic.

ultranerds

Sat 18th Jun '05, 3:17am

Yeah, its been a whole 8 days since Beta 1 release. :rolleyes: I think a new release even every few weeks would still qualify as rapid fire. Doesn't seem so fast, when you're as desperate as me, to give the RC version a go :p

poolking

Sat 18th Jun '05, 3:50am

LOL Good job not pointing anything out. You make claims then don't back them up? Wow...thanks for pointing out stuff you can't point out.:rolleyes: Next time, back up what you claim, or don't post at all. Now...back on topic.

Man,

I have a life, I don't want to spend hours listing all of your rubbish, now go away and play little man.

Floris

Sat 18th Jun '05, 5:01am

Hi everybody,

if we can not post here on topic and start personal attacks towards others, I will start to moderate posts or close this thread. Play nice!

Thank you.

VaaKo

Sat 18th Jun '05, 5:22am

Onimua

Sat 18th Jun '05, 5:32am

I just 2 questions...when is the 3.5 will be officially released ??and im getting in the status bar "done but with errors"I can't quick reply, when I click on the quick reply button, the text area doesn't unlock..what's wrong ?

Not for a while, really. That, and there's no release date "until it's done." Seems to be standard style here on vB.com.

As for why the text editor's not working for you... refresh/clear your cache and it should work are it should. :)

feldon23

Sat 18th Jun '05, 9:14am

I just 2 questions...when is the 3.5 will be officially released
Release dates are not published by vBulletin/Jelsoft.

and im getting in the status bar "done but with errors"I can't quick reply, when I click on the quick reply button, the text area doesn't unlock..what's wrong ?
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