vBulletin Development Update Discussion

[xmitchx]

I lost my internet access for 2 weeks and I was sad because I thought id miss 3.5 beta because they said itd be released sometime last week, but im back and apparently i havent missed anything :rolleyes: Typical. So We'll wait... days... oooh. :P

[Electronic Punk]

Not tonight please guys, I wanna play World of Warcraft :D and won't be able to do anything other than vBulletin if it does get released :o

[ianskate]

Oh man, I'd take 3.5 over WoW any day ;)

[Kusadasi-Guy]

guys, they said early june. but they didnt say "early june of 2005" :eek:

[ianskate]

guys, they said early june. but they didnt say "early june of 2005" :eek:
Fine, come back next year and check this thread. :D


The rest of us will be here waiting :rolleyes:

[MidnightPyro]

Read the announcements :confused: That just shot my enthusiasm for a release today in the foot.

[YoungCoder]

Read the announcements :confused: That just shot my enthusiasm for a release today in the foot.

They could probably fix that pretty quick :p (they are professionals ;) )

[MidnightPyro]

True, but their release mojo might've been thrown off :p

[Jerry]

I can't belive a thread lest then a month old can have 1,408 replys and 57,284 views. Sick

Hmmm, how about more info at 100,000 views ? :D

[Jimmy Kane]

Hmmm, how about more info at 100,000 views ? :D
Is this a promise?

[MidnightPyro]

vB 3.5 will probably be released before we get to 100,000 pageviews ;)

[Jerry]

Is this a promise?

Nope sorry :)

[Jimmy Kane]

Nope sorry :)
http://0xtc.com/blog/images/hypnotoad.gif
All glory to the Hypnotoad! You WILL tell us the vB 3.5 relaease date!

[Ken Iovino]

I saw Kier made a new post in the annoucments forum, and i got all excited. Stupid bug

[MidnightPyro]

It's fixed now though. Maybe the developers can get their release mojo back on. Here's to a release today! :D

[Ghostsuit]

You know when it comes out it will come out. I've put the coffee away recently and cut down the caffine and I'm much less twitch about things coming out.





Who the hell am I kidding I can't wait to play with new toys :D.

[vbcore]

I saw Kier made a new post in the annoucments forum, and i got all excited. Stupid bug
Same here, i nearly creamed myself then i was like nooooooooooo

[diades]

You know when it comes out it will come out. I've put the coffee away recently and cut down the caffine and I'm much less twitch about things coming out.
Who the hell am I kidding I can't wait to play with new toys :D.
Summer is here, go cut some grass, so calming:)

[Flexo]

Summer is here, go cut some grass, so calming:)

No option. Gives me hayfever.

[Floris]

I understand you all want to speculate, but everybody who just wants to read about the dev status things .. have to crrrraawl through many pages of 'today/tomorrow/never' stuff that is not getting anywhere anyway until it is actually released.

The dev announcement has a lot of features listed, did you all try those yet (where possible)? And there are even more features you can find out about like the PM name suggestions (which is also on advanced search btw) and getnew showing 0 results will link to getdaily as additional option. And double clicking on a post will allow you to edit and many more little things. There is a test forum where you can try all that out, and browse around and find more fun changes.

[Cloud Strife]

Well they've fixed that bug now... Hopefully it will be out soon :D

[dwh]

If you want 3.50 early, just change the copyright notice at the bottom :)

[Aerith_Freak]

So since vB2 only made it to 2.3.6 (?), any plans for vB4? What version did 1.x get up to, for that matter.

2.3.7*

I can't remember the 1 series but I don't think it ever made 1.5

I think they're doing this big a version jump because although there is all the new AJAX and hooks/plug-ins and everything it still maintains a lot of the 3 series core, however the changes are halfway to warranting a full version jump xD

Hence the 3.5.x'ness of it all.

Any plans for vB4? Christ let them finish 3.5 first. You lot don't half like to work them with your "where's my 3.5/CMS/whatever!!? I want it now!" xD

[MidnightPyro]

3.5 will definatly be awesome, and I predict it'll be out by the end of the week - hopefully :cool:

[Darkblade]

You guys are just trying to be impatient. :p

[Arkham]

Well they said days last week, not weeks. If it's not out tonight then you can classify it as weeks.... I think. :|

No, they would technically have until just before the 2-week mark. 13 days is still "days" not "weeks". ;)

[bglynn]

Stupid question, but coming from 3.03 with several hacks (I honestly can't even remember which ones I have, they were all installed to solve specific problems at the time), will I be able to upgrade to 3.5?

[Bad_i_BILL]

Where do we KNOW???

What I mean is I am growing tired of the runaway topic & checking it repeatidly. :(
Specifically where can the members look to see when 3.5.0 is availiable to DL?
Will we recieve an email?

THank You
BILL

[Aerith_Freak]

Stupid question, but coming from 3.03 with several hacks (I honestly can't even remember which ones I have, they were all installed to solve specific problems at the time), will I be able to upgrade to 3.5?

Yes, but the hacks will most likely be incompatible with 3.5 and might need some reworking. Though it is probably likely that you'll have to run all the upgrade scripts to upgrade to 3.0.7 and then on to 3.5.0

Specifically where can the members look to see when 3.5.0 is availiable to DL?
Will we recieve an email?

The thing in the top right hand corner that says 3.5.0 Preview should change to 3.5.0 BETA, then you can go into your members area and go to the download vBulletin section and it will be there for download.

I daresay Jelsoft will e-mail all customers when it's released but until then all you can do is check back every so often to see whether it's available or not.

[Ken Iovino]

This forum requires that you wait 20 seconds before submitting another search. You have 15 seconds to wait before another search will be allowed.


I love that it tells you how long you got left, i hated counted it in my head...

[Dean C]

I love that it tells you how long you got left, i hated counted it in my head...

I wish it'd do that when replying to a post!

[Janice]

Just a suggestion... since you have fixed the Sent PM issue so now we can move our Sent PM's to a folder, is there anyway you could add in to sort with a click. I seem to remember in vB2 I could do that. Right now I have 984 PMs in my Sent box just waiting to go into the proper folders, (I keep everything), so I thought I might ask if that is a possibility. Thanks. :)

[FASherman]

I daresay Jelsoft will e-mail all customers when it's released but until then all you can do is check back every so often to see whether it's available or not.

They've never emailed customers for a beta release before, only the final release that I can recall - so you probably will not get an email.

[Wayne Luke]

I daresay Jelsoft will e-mail all customers when it's released but until then all you can do is check back every so often to see whether it's available or not.
Not for a Beta Release. If you want email notification of when it is released, subscribe to the daily digest of the Announcements forum. However, that won't be immediate notification.

[Aerith_Freak]

Not for a Beta Release. If you want email notification of when it is released, subscribe to the daily digest of the Announcements forum. However, that won't be immediate notification.

Yes I meant it for the full stable non-beta version an e-mail would be sent, I realise I hadn't specified that though, cheers for both you and FASherman for clarifying.

[MidnightPyro]

Not for a Beta Release. If you want email notification of when it is released, subscribe to the daily digest of the Announcements forum. However, that won't be immediate notification.

You could make our lives easier by just telling us when it'll be released :rolleyes:

[womensden]

You could make our lives easier by just telling us when it'll be released :rolleyes:

or at least a "not today"

[Webnower]

or at least a "not today"
Amen to that :P

[Floris]

It won't be released on tuesday. Sorry everybody.

Now, please talk about what is posted, and not the release date? Thank you.

[womensden]

It won't be released on tuesday. Sorry everybody.

Now, please talk about what is posted, and not the release date? Thank you.

Well, that is a good thing since today is Wednesday. ;)

[BrandNIC]

Well, that is a good thing since today is Wednesday. ;)

LOL :D

[flstreetscene]

ok so it's going to go.. 3.5.0 BETA > 3.5.0 Final? Or are there going to be gold versions like with 3.0?

[Wayne Luke]

Gold is something that people have assigned to final releases. It comes from manufacturers like Microsoft and IBM, placing their software on gold plated CDs for release to manufacturing. Final Release = Gold... There is no step between the two.

[fraghappy]

It won't be released on tuesday. Sorry everybody.

Now, please talk about what is posted, and not the release date? Thank you.

I predict that it won't be released on Wednesday before 4:23 PM either. :rolleyes:

[lightbox]

I predict that it won't be released on Wednesday before 4:23 PM either. :rolleyes:

I can ensure you that it WILL be released before Wednesday 4:23 PM. ;)

[dwh]

It won't be released on tuesday. Sorry everybody.

Now, please talk about what is posted, and not the release date? Thank you.

At the risk of pissing people off, I'd suggest in these threads after a prominent notice on the first post saying what type of comments are ok and what would be deleted, that a moderator then deletes all irrelevant posts. 32 Pages of when will it be released is unmanageable and a waste of time. I'm sure if you delete the first bunch less and less people would write those time wasters.

[eXtremeTim]

This is getting crazy. What are you all accomplishing? Your all going nuts while im off working with what I have and not going crazy anymore. Maybe you should all find something to do for now. ;)

[Janice]

With all the time questions and comments, I'm afraid my PM sorting question got overlooked. :( I'm just so happy to be able to sort the Sent PMs soon, it would save me a heck of a lot of time by being able to sort them by name. If not, there's always the future. :)

[greywolff]

hey now im getting a good chuckle off of all the desperation. Its almost like listening to a bunch of addicts needing a new fix. I dont get to many laughs these days :)

[Regs]

LOL!

Replies like "Soon. Sooner than you think" and "It won't be posted on Tuesday" certainly didn't help keep the discussion on topic (what is the exact topic to be discussed? Kier made an announcement?) :D

For Jelsoft, those posting about when every 10 minutes creates a definite sense of anticipation - probably why posts haven't been deleted or this thread shut down :D

I know it's keep me coming back way more than usual :D

Cheers,

~Regs.

[RagingPenguin]

Too much anticipation can make for a bad experience if things do not live up to your expectations or do not function the way you envisioned. Do what I do (except for this post), read occasionally, and get it when it IS released. Out...

[kuruemeru]

nice features! yay^^

[Tailfeathers]

Calm your horses everyone! :p

By the looks of the bug tracker, it seems to me like they're letting other vb sites like vb.org test it out for a while first to iron out admin panel bugs and such that we haven't had access to before releasing.

[womensden]

blah blah blah.....

Can't wait (how's that?). Looking forward to it.

Edited original post.............

[Ace]

well, I do have to agree that saying "early june" and "days not weeks", then saying "sooner than you think"... doesn't make people any less ancy to get it.

Just what do you expect? If you dont want people to get ancy about it, dont say SOON and dont even give an estimate of when it might be out. It seems that everytime there is an iminent release, this exactly thing happens, you let everyone down and then when it does come out everyone is already over the anticipation.

I guess I am starting to doubt a release anytime soon...
The thing is though, this is the Development Discussion thread, not the Release Date Theorising thread.

We are all (apparently) Forum Admins here. Could we not just respect the fact that the vb devs have given us this tasty preview and discuss its development? Continually pestering them to release it (or confirm a release date) isn't nice, and isn't what this thread is designed for.

[arab_flash]

Looking forward to the beta :) :)

[Steve Moore]

*steps in and pushes everyone aside* Sorry but I have a real question now, will 3.5 have a style plugin system or is the plugin system for hacks the only type of plugin system that will be in this version?

I ask cuz if it won't exist then I plan to make a hack that will do just that. Will take time but hopefully it will be worth it.

[ianskate]

*steps in and pushes everyone aside* Sorry but I have a real question now, will 3.5 have a style plugin system or is the plugin system for hacks the only type of plugin system that will be in this version?

I guess I have a somewhat related question, as well. When applying a hack, will modifications to the templates still be necessary, or will everything be done through the plugin system?

[feldon23]

*steps in and pushes everyone aside* Sorry but I have a real question now, will 3.5 have a style plugin system or is the plugin system for hacks the only type of plugin system that will be in this version?
You can upload a Style by uploading an XML file. If the style is created properly, then you can upload a folder /style####_images/ with a 4 digit ID for the style and all the subfolders under that.

[Wayne Luke]

*steps in and pushes everyone aside* Sorry but I have a real question now, will 3.5 have a style plugin system or is the plugin system for hacks the only type of plugin system that will be in this version?

Meaning you can include new custom templates into an existing template without altering the template code?

No... It will not.

[Wayne Luke]

I guess I have a somewhat related question, as well. When applying a hack, will modifications to the templates still be necessary, or will everything be done through the plugin system?
Depends on the hack/plugin but I would assume that most will require template modifications to show the results of what you are adding.

This shouldn't be an issue though as templates are not overwritten during upgrade and there is an inline compare feature as well as being able to store template drafts or revisions.

[Steve Moore]

Thanks Wayne. Can't wait to play with the new plugin system.

What about the banning system? Still the same or will you have an option to display to the public all those that are banned?

*pats self on the back for real questions*

[Flexo]

This shouldn't be an issue though as templates are not overwritten during upgrade and there is an inline compare feature as well as being able to store template drafts or revisions.

Will there be an option to restore earlier versions of the templates or will it be done by hand and by comparing the code?

[Wayne Luke]

The banning system hasn't changed in this version as far as I am aware. I haven't seen anything if it has.

[Wayne Luke]

Will there be an option to restore earlier versions of the templates or will it be done by hand and by comparing the code?
I don't see that in there... I might have missed it. If it isn't shouldn't be a very difficult thing to add in later.

[womensden]

*raises hand*

I noticed with the tachy goes coventry (in 3.0.7), some usergroups can see the "the administrator has decided that this user should be quiet" message. Will this be changed to where only certain usergroups can see this? I dont know if it has been mentioned before, but users who were on this list before have found out from other users. I would rather them not know. I was actually using that feature instead of banning until someone mentioned that they could see it.

[Steve Moore]

Thanks Wayne

[TCM]

Man. This wait is killen me. I would like to be the server admin checkin the downoald stats after they finally release it.

I can picture **** and staff logging into stats screen with a big ol grin :D

It would be cool if they could post a hits tracker that was veiwable to the public. I would be interested in seeing the distrobution rate results.

>> Download vBulletin 3.5 Beta << (http://localhost)
This file has been downloaded: 604,322 times and counting...

EDIT: It would even amuse me just to see how many of you try to click on the fake link above. lol

Man... Just used the new URL button with the Hyperlink drop down options in the WYSIWYG editor... thats pretty nifty!Damnit! I clicked on that. :rofl:


Darn, hurry up! :P I want to upgrade my board!

[KanyeWest]

Darn, hurry up! :P I want to upgrade my board!

im with you

[ABLady]

But, have to admit...

This is a great marketing tactic! :p

[bfoot045]

Wow up to 1570+ replies, at 1600 they have to release it. :)

This topic has really outlived the questions about the software part, now people just want it, now.

[squall14716]

But, have to admit...

This is a great marketing tactic! :p
No, it's not. It's something that drives me up the wall pissed off.

[Omega Prime]

Not sure if this has been asked, and if so, disregard:

Will there be any significant changes between the beta and RC/Gold releases? I mean.. I remember ages ago when vB3 was still in beta, it looked a bit similar to vB2, but as we got to the RC stage, the current style was in place, along with other features. While I don't expect too much in terms of how future versions may look, I was curious on whether or not we'll see any changes (other than bug fixes and whatnot) between the beta and RC/Gold releases ;)

[FASherman]

Damnit! I clicked on that. :rofl:


Darn, hurry up! :P I want to upgrade my board!

You're nuts if you plan on installing beta software on a live site. :eek:

[Webnower]

I've installed XAMPP and a test version of a forum I help run on my computer (freaking mysql command line crap took me forever)... Waiting patiently to change it over and play with it :)

To the devs: What do you imagine the learning curve to be as far as plugins/addons for people who are used to the current way of doing things?

[squall14716]

You're nuts if you plan on installing beta software on a live site. :eek:
I'd use it on a live site - noting the risks and taking a backup beforehand.

[adguru]

And now I can understand that why Jelsoft never tells about what it is working on. :p

[TCM]

You're nuts if you plan on installing beta software on a live site. :eek:Maybe. But that's how I run my site. I make all my changes live. My community is pretty fixed, so it's hard to gain or lose members. Me crashing the boards when I'm trying to do something is what makes my site what it is. =P

I've started keeping daily backups, but I didn't used to.

[MissKalunji]

does that mean we gon need new skin for the 3.5 or are we gon be able to use the current one for 3.0.7?

[poolking]

You're nuts if you plan on installing beta software on a live site. :eek:

How else are you going to find any bugs? You can only test it so much.

[Onimua]

does that mean we gon need new skin for the 3.5 or are we gon be able to use the current one for 3.0.7?

It's already been said that certain templates need to be reverted in order to include new changes. :)

[Semere Liif]

Okay this may be a stupid question... Why doesn't vbulletin pass more information on their rss feed like other forums? I mean in rssreader I only get the topic and poster but no preview of the thread. Will there be any upgraded support for rss2 any time soon? I think the coding is already there it is just a matter of setting up the output link.

[Semere Liif]

Nevermind I figured it all out and feel dumb now.

[CMilne]

OMFG! I Love the quick reply is posting text when you post a quick reply, HOW AWESOME! Keep up the good work guys!

[CompuJon]

Can't wait for the new version! :)

[bjornstrom]

How many features will be using AJAX?

[allwin]

Can absolutely understand why VB refuses to talk about release dates

[Onimua]

Can absolutely understand why VB refuses to talk about release dates

... because nothing is concrete? Today (techincally yesterday), they could have been releasing it, but then they discovered the login/out bug, and thus had to find the error, repair ir, implement it into the site, test to make sure it works, and then update any/all files that need it. So... another delay.

I'd be happy if a dev just came on and said "sorry for the delay, but we're working on getting out before <date here of this week, hopefully>". That way we have general idea of what's going on, and know a rough time when to expect it.

[Brad.loo]

... because nothing is concrete? Today (techincally yesterday), they could have been releasing it, but then they discovered the login/out bug, and thus had to find the error, repair ir, implement it into the site, test to make sure it works, and then update any/all files that need it. So... another delay.

I'd be happy if a dev just came on and said "sorry for the delay, but we're working on getting out before <date here of this week, hopefully>". That way we have general idea of what's going on, and know a rough time when to expect it.
Then if they miss that date more customers get angry. This is why they always say it'll come out 'when it's done'.

[Onimua]

Then if they miss that date more customers get angry. This is why they always say it'll come out 'when it's done'.
That's why I noted that there should be a general date, or some timeframe, they're amining for. Nothing concrete.

[pieman666]

Will there be a clear upgrade from the beta to the final version?

[Jerry]

That's why I noted that there should be a general date, or some timeframe, they're amining for. Nothing concrete.

There is, in the announcement.

And Then The Big Question...

So naturally you want to know when you can have all these goodies running on your own server?

If our current schedules pan out, we are hoping to have vBulletin 3.5 running the vBulletin.com forums next week, and if that goes well, we will release vBulletin 3.5 to public beta by early June.

That is a general timeframe.


... because nothing is concrete? Today (techincally yesterday), they could have been releasing it, but then they discovered the login/out bug, and thus had to find the error, repair ir, implement it into the site, test to make sure it works, and then update any/all files that need it. So... another delay.

Could off ? the login/out isn't the only thing being worked on, that just came out of the blue as bugs do. Did Kier say it was being released yesterday ?

I'd be happy if a dev just came on and said "sorry for the delay, but we're working on getting out before <date here of this week, hopefully>". That way we have general idea of what's going on, and know a rough time when to expect it.

This is a beta not a final release, Kier has given the estimate.

[Jerry]

Thanks Wayne. Can't wait to play with the new plugin system.

What about the banning system? Still the same or will you have an option to display to the public all those that are banned?

*pats self on the back for real questions*

You can set a reason that will be shown to the banned user so they can see why they have been banned now.

[Jerry]

The thing is though, this is the Development Discussion thread, not the Release Date Theorising thread.

Indeed !

[bfoot045]

... because nothing is concrete? Today (techincally yesterday), they could have been releasing it, but then they discovered the login/out bug, and thus had to find the error, repair ir, implement it into the site, test to make sure it works, and then update any/all files that need it. So... another delay.

I'd be happy if a dev just came on and said "sorry for the delay, but we're working on getting out before <date here of this week, hopefully>". That way we have general idea of what's going on, and know a rough time when to expect it.

Well, seeing as how they said "Early June", they did not break any promises, they are still under their deadline. :rolleyes:

[l0fty]

but y wud they release it in the mid week, if anything it wud prob be friday or weekend

[Tailfeathers]

You can set a reason that will be shown to the banned user so they can see why they have been banned now.
Oh that has been requested a lot...great feature!

[Electronic Punk]

but y wud they release it in the mid week, if anything it wud prob be friday or weekend

So they then have to fix any critical bugs in the important 24 hours after the release at the weekend? Interesting logic there.

[C.Birch]

Kier has been posting a topic in the announcement forums for about 30 min so im gussing its 3.5 with how long its taking :)

[Dean C]

Kier has been posting a topic in the announcement forums for about 30 min so im gussing its 3.5 with how long its taking :)

Or he's just giving everyone an update perhaps?

[StarBuG]

Or he is prepairing the announcement of the release of vB 3.5 :D
Get ready folks and hold your breath hahaha

[C.Birch]

nar i think it will be 3.5 because all the info he has to post will take him this long where has a update would only take a few me :)

[l0fty]

well for how long its taking him to post im not gonna hold mine, ill pass out :p

[Dean C]

nar i think it will be 3.5 because all the info he has to post will take him this long where has a update would only take a few me :)

There's still bugs unfixed in the bug-tracker. I sincerely doubt it :)

[pieman666]

If i had a long post to do I'd just type it up in word and copy and paste it in :)

[C.Birch]

its a beta theres going be bugs in it. eg the idea of having betas but has i say im just guessing.

[PitchouneN64ngc]

What's doing Kier at this time?

Creating Thread vBulletin Announcements (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=1)

Maybe vB 3.5 for now :D

[WiBu]

Cool, *WiBu decides to hang around a little longer carefully watching kiers profile*

[AFusion]

Or maybe he clicked New Thread and left while laughing at the people constantly refreshing his profile :D

[womensden]

He is probably just teasing us... sitting there with that window open and not typing ANYTHING. :D

I dont think it's 3.5

[weirdpixels]

well he is offline now :(

[C.Birch]

well he is offline now :(

who's online will have timed him out has he's not reloaded a page for ages, dont mean he's gone ;)

[AFusion]

So either he really is evil (I know I would) or it's taking him reeeeaaal long to type the announcement.

I wonder how much time the previous announcements took him...

[AzhriaLilu]

He is probably just teasing us... sitting there with that window open and not typing ANYTHING. :D

I dont think it's 3.5

That's what I'd be doing :D with the amount of speculation going on in this thread, it would be impossible to resist the temptation to tease :p

[C.Birch]

So either he really is evil (I know I would) or it's taking him reeeeaaal long to type the announcement.

I wonder how much time the previous announcements took him...

well he's got to post saying about the new stuff in it and then list all the files and temp's that have been edited and if you need to reset them or not so taking in mind its a big update is post will be very big also due to the number of edits.

[AFusion]

Well yea I know that but I guess all we can do is hope... and prepare our.. umm.. tools in case of a tease :D

[C.Birch]

guess you mean fizzy pop and loads of choc snacks to keep you going why updating :p

[AFusion]

Well yea ofcourse... What else... *hides pointy object*

[Floris]

I don't know what is going on, but I just came back home and turned on my monitor and checked out my chat channel .. all the staff is there! What the hell!

14539

Kier, Steve, Mike, Jerry, Jo, Ashley, etc, etc, ..




irc.vbfans.com (irc://irc.vbfans.com/vbfans) port 6667 channel #vbfans (http://www.vBulletin-Fans.com/chat.php)

[StarBuG]

Nice "trick" to get people to join the chat ;)

[PitchouneN64ngc]

irc.vbfans.com (irc://irc.vbfans.com/vbfans) port 6667 channel #vbfans (http://www.vbulletin-fans.com/chat.php)

/me joins :p but the channel is full :(

Edit: it's ok now :)

[iardon]

I'm trying to join but the channel is full. :-(

[Breaker]

should be able to join now :D

[arab_flash]

how can I join ?

[Ken Iovino]

IRC irc.vbfans.com port 6667 channel #vbfans

[Aros]

irc://irc.vbulletin-fans.com/vbfans/ If you have mIRC or a client that supports it :)

[Floris]

This is why they were online I guess ;)

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142024

[MissKalunji]

It's already been said that certain templates need to be reverted in order to include new changes. :)

im sorry.............i didnt see it....

[red_baron2000]

I hope you all like my little video :)


video? where?

[cmiller1014]

I thought beta releases would be churned out daily? That doesn't seem to be the case here.

[StarBuG]

I thought beta releases would be churned out daily? That doesn't seem to be the case here.

than you had to daily update your forum.
They try to fix as much bugs as possible for the next beta release not for every bugfix a new beta ;)

[Paul M]

I thought beta releases would be churned out daily? That doesn't seem to be the case here.I think daily is a bit much ;), but I was hoping for a weekly update. :cool:

[Ogden2k]

Weekley would be nice...

[Aerith_Freak]

Beta 3 by the end of the month wouldn't go amiss.

[C.Birch]

I thought beta releases would be churned out daily? That doesn't seem to be the case here.

where not the like other forums, the team here fix things right what saves the need to have 100's of beta like some other software.

[Lumina]

video? where?
http://files.vbulletin.com/3.5/ajax.html

[Kier]

Let's continue the discussion here.