vBulletin Development Update Discussion

[Floris]

hi when it be available in members area???????????
Some time in June is my estimation.

[Steve Moore]

Is there a link for us licensed members to download and test it out on every aspect?

[Bad_i_BILL]

Is there a link for us licensed members to download and test it out on every aspect?

It is NOT June yet

[Steve Moore]

I know that is for a full version I mean the preview version that they are using here, right now.

[daemon]

No, there's no downloads available. If you read the announcement, Kier stated that there will be a beta version hopefully in June. Until then nobody gets the code.

[fire27]

No, there's no downloads available. If you read the announcement, Kier stated that there will be a beta version hopefully in June. Until then nobody gets the code.
except the vb devs (of course)

[tHe Rk]

Some time in June is my estimation.
Getting tired of answering that question yet? :p

[sv1cec]

I am sorry if this has been asked and answered before, but will hack authors be able to have a pre-release version of 3.5 so that we can test the compatibility of our code (or the necessary steps to make our code compatible)?

If not, will there be some sort of detailed document, explaining the differences between 3.0.7 and 3.5, in a detailed manner, from which we will be able to come up with new code for our hacks?

Tnx and regards

[Colin F]

I don't assume so, unless you regard the beta in that manner.

[Mr. Tech]

Sorry if this has already been asked but how will 3.5 support custom forum templates? From reading the thread about VB 3.5, it said that it has improved the moderating functions etc. Will we have to do any major changes to the code in the templates for it to work?

[akex054]

I am sorry if this has been asked and answered before, but will hack authors be able to have a pre-release version of 3.5 so that we can test the compatibility of our code (or the necessary steps to make our code compatible)?

If not, will there be some sort of detailed document, explaining the differences between 3.0.7 and 3.5, in a detailed manner, from which we will be able to come up with new code for our hacks?

Tnx and regards

I think you will have enough time to adjust your code as vbulletin.org won't allow vb3.5 hacks before a stable version is released :).

[alkahf]

AJAX Integration

AJAX (Asynchronous Javascript and XML) allows your browser to send data to and receive data from a server without reloading the current page. This technology, whose use is being pioneered by Google, allows developers to create rich, fast-responding interactive pages.

For example, in vBulletin 3.5 moderators can simply click on the status icon for a thread in the forumdisplay page to toggle its open/closed status, or double click in the table cell of a thread title to instantly edit the thread title without having to navigate away to a dedicated editing page.

Floris has put together a short video showing some of our AJAX and inline moderation tools in action:
http://files.vbulletin.com/3.5/ajax.html

No doubt the template editors amongst you will be curious to know how much we have had to modify the templates in order to allow these features, and the good news is hardly at all. When the release comes we will detail exactly how to get the AJAX features into your customized templates. It usually involves just adding an id attribute to a few elements in the templates.

More good news is that AJAX tools are very quick and easy to implement, so you will see more of them popping up in various places in vBulletin in due course.
Very nice But I have important question:
Have you tested AJAX with the Arabic language?
I have heard that its Arabic supports only UTF-8 encoding but not windows-1256.

Regards
alkahf

[Marco van Herwaarden]

I think you will have enough time to adjust your code as vbulletin.org won't allow vb3.5 hacks before a stable version is released :).Policy about releasing hacks during the vB3.5 Beta is not published yet. I doubt that we will have a stop for vB3.5 hacks.

[space_vb3]

:) nice jop

good luck :D

[KanyeWest]

whens it comin out?

[Flexo]

Scroll to the top of the page.

[DogGunn]

whens it comin out?
lol:mad:

[Ace]

whens it comin out?
When it's ready.

[Floris]

Getting tired of answering that question yet? :p
Nope, I'm good :)

[MidnightPyro]

Hey floris, when's it coming out? :D

[Sephiroth]

Hey floris, when's it coming out? :D
Scroll to the top of the page. :p

[KanyeWest]

Scroll to the top of the page. :p

ITS CALLED sarcasim :p

[Colin F]

It's *actually* called sarcasm...

[tHe Rk]

Nope, I'm good :)
Good! In that case, when is the Beta gonna be release?!?!??!? :p

[YoungCoder]

Good! In that case, when is the Beta gonna be release?!?!??!? :p

Not only has this been asked lots of times, but the joke has also been repeated lots of times, and the question of whether people are bored of answering the question has been repeated lots of times. So how about we all act like responsible, mature vBulletin administrators and stop tormenting the people that work so hard to provide us with a great product.

[ojay]

are there api's for the 3.5 authentication and session management routines to ease some things like the site wide usage of vb's user system? in general, will the original code in parts make use of the plugin system itself or is it only meant for hacks?

[Fusion]

are there api's for the 3.5 authentication and session management routines to ease some things like the site wide usage of vb's user system? in general, will the original code in parts make use of the plugin system itself or is it only meant for hacks?What he said.. Excellent question...

[tHe Rk]

Not only has this been asked lots of times, but the joke has also been repeated lots of times, and the question of whether people are bored of answering the question has been repeated lots of times. So how about we all act like responsible, mature vBulletin administrators and stop tormenting the people that work so hard to provide us with a great product.
Or how about we all lighten up a bit? It wouldn't kill most vB Bulletin Board Admins to lighten up. We all know its coming soon, most of the discussion is played out in this thread already anyway, so whats wrong with a little playful banter as we wait? I mean really.

[YoungCoder]

Or how about we all lighten up a bit? It wouldn't kill most vB Bulletin Board Admins to lighten up. We all know its coming soon, most of the discussion is played out in this thread already anyway, so whats wrong with a little playful banter as we wait? I mean really.

I would agree if we were discussing the release of a computer game, however it is these little jokes and "friendly banter" that streches this thread 69 pages long so that when somebody tries to find the answer to a question, they have to flick through many pages, which of course leads them to re-ask a question.

[zetetic]

I would agree if we were discussing the release of a computer game, however it is these little jokes and "friendly banter" that streches this thread 69 pages long so that when somebody tries to find the answer to a question, they have to flick through many pages, which of course leads them to re-ask a question. With all due respect, the way to keep a thread on-topic is to refrain from posting things that are off-topic. Your last two posts and the responses to them (like this one) are as much of a derailment as any of the friendly banter here. ;)

[zetetic]

You can use your current hacks as they are but there have been changes to the database class, GPC variable initialization and $vboptions that will require updating.
I asked this before but it got overlooked...

I don't really know exactly what this comment means, but does anyone know if it's likely to impact whether we can successfully migrate data from old hacks to vB 3.5?

[PitchouneN64ngc]

For 111 bugs reported, there is 59 bugs fixed (closed). I think we don't find any other bug for now, so I hope the first beta will be release soon :)

[Wayne Luke]

Actually.... of 111 bugs reported there are only 9 open bugs at this time. The others have been closed for different reasons.

[squall14716]

Actually.... of 111 bugs reported there are only 9 open bugs at this time. The others have been closed for different reasons.
If you include Awaiting Feedback, there are 12. ;)

[BootsSiR]

It's June 1st as of 3 mins ago here in Nova Scotia... where can I download 3.5.0 ? :p

[Steve Moore]

I'm still on May 31st for the next 1 hour and 13 minutes. It would be nice if the beta got released June 1st but that is wishful thinking.

[Breaker]

I'm still on May 31st for the next 1 hour and 13 minutes. It would be nice if the beta got released June 1st but that is wishful thinking.
if it does get released June 1st i'll be damn suprised :P

[CMilne]

I'm sure it's June 1st everywhere in the world now, so where is vBulletin 3.5.0?!?!?!?! :p :p :p

[mikaelweb]

When is the Beta gonna be release

[ojay]

are there api's for the 3.5 authentication and session management routines to ease some things like the site wide usage of vb's user system? in general, will the original code in parts make use of the plugin system itself or is it only meant for hacks?

it'd be great if some team member could answer this question. i think this would really be a great and long awaited enhancement for lots of big site community admins. not that it was impossible with older versions, but not elegant to use and not ressource sparing at all.

[Kier]

We're still working through a few issues that we know about internally (and aren't in the bugtracker) - there's little point in releasing a beta for public testing if we know it has some issues. On the bright side, most of these things are just trivial issues and should be fixed soon. Expect the beta in days, not weeks.

Regarding a question earlier in this thread about the plugin system - vBulletin itself does not use the plugin system, as we can simply edit the code to do what we need it to do. However, any additional products we release will use the plugin system extensively.

[weirdpixels]

Expect the beta in days, not weeks.

Great news Kier, thanks for the update :D

[Electronic Punk]

Additional products? :)

[badblu01]

Additional products?

Could they mean a CMS in the near future :)

[weirdpixels]

maybe, lets hope so :)

[Jimmy Kane]

We're still working through a few issues that we know about internally (and aren't in the bugtracker) - there's little point in releasing a beta for public testing if we know it has some issues. On the bright side, most of these things are just trivial issues and should be fixed soon. Expect the beta in days, not weeks.

Regarding a question earlier in this thread about the plugin system - vBulletin itself does not use the plugin system, as we can simply edit the code to do what we need it to do. However, any additional products we release will use the plugin system extensively.
The bug tracker?

[ojay]

We're still working through a few issues that we know about internally (and aren't in the bugtracker) - there's little point in releasing a beta for public testing if we know it has some issues. On the bright side, most of these things are just trivial issues and should be fixed soon. Expect the beta in days, not weeks.

Regarding a question earlier in this thread about the plugin system - vBulletin itself does not use the plugin system, as we can simply edit the code to do what we need it to do. However, any additional products we release will use the plugin system extensively.

ok, and what about api's for user authentication and session management? do/will they exist?

[weirdpixels]

The bug tracker?
you can find the bug tracker for vbulletin 3.5 here http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs35.php

[Tailfeathers]

Thanks for the update. :)

[le`shaq]

you can find the bug tracker for vbulletin 3.5 here http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs35.php

he was speaking of the "additional" software, kier mentioned.

[Floris]

Additional software ...


3.5 comes with a hook/plugin system ...


Soon everybody can ejoy the coffee_machine_hook($cappuchino[1]); :)

[phenxor]

Any word on that Preview/Beta release for clients?

[zetetic]

Any word on that Preview/Beta release for clients?
Posted by Kier earlier this morning:

We're still working through a few issues that we know about internally (and aren't in the bugtracker) - there's little point in releasing a beta for public testing if we know it has some issues. On the bright side, most of these things are just trivial issues and should be fixed soon. Expect the beta in days, not weeks.

[phenxor]

tanks

[Weapon-x]

When 3.5.0 is released this june is it a BETA or is it the final version?

[Steve Machol]

As per the announcement this will be a Beta release.

[Darkblade]

My answer would be a BETA version. It is too early for the Final version to be released I guess.

[jcline]

wow this thread is huge!
I am really excited about the new option for unread posts. I have been waiting for this since vb3 first came out!!!

I am hoping that it will also mark a post as read to you if your the last one to post in it. (hint hint if it doesn't already!)

I like VB a lot, and this was one of the last things that I liked better in phpbb2!!!

You guys are doing a great job though! Keep up the good work!

[YoungCoder]

wow this thread is huge!
I am really excited about the new option for unread posts. I have been waiting for this since vb3 first came out!!!

I am hoping that it will also mark a post as read to you if your the last one to post in it. (hint hint if it doesn't already!)

I like VB a lot, and this was one of the last things that I liked better in phpbb2!!!

You guys are doing a great job though! Keep up the good work!

I too cannot wait, and will be investing in a new style to match the new version :)

[Jimmy Kane]

he was speaking of the "additional" software, kier mentioned.Thats correct. They were going to release it.
I hope they still do!

[Floris]

As per the announcement this will be a Bata release.

Powered by: vBulletin 3.5 bata - the typo-release :D

[Lurk]

I can't wait for the beta... :D A few days and not weeks... :)

[CMilne]

Additional products? :) Hopefully not Expensive additional products :P

[Keyser Söze]

wow this thread is huge!
I am really excited about the new option for unread posts. I have been waiting for this since vb3 first came out!!!

I am hoping that it will also mark a post as read to you if your the last one to post in it. (hint hint if it doesn't already!)

I like VB a lot, and this was one of the last things that I liked better in phpbb2!!!

You guys are doing a great job though! Keep up the good work!

hate to say it, but i was right ;p to all the ones that were annoyed by my thread requesting this type info

giving sneak peks gets ppl excited and talking about it, and more interested in the software

which will of course lead to more profit for the makers :D

i look forward to the beta release, i hope the things i am interested in are included

[Floris]

New feature?

navbar> QuickLinks> Mark Forums Read
navbar> Get New Posts> No new posts!
(but wait, is that a link to getdaily? w00t)

[Keyser Söze]

well floris i guess these arent new features, just small improvements, i was hoping for PM attachment, and PM quick reply (that is just like the forum thread quick reply)

also update to the ban system, ban reason, "show ban reason, banned by who, and for how long on forum display (when banned), when i say forum display i mean, instead of the standard error page


any chance of those?

[Tailfeathers]

With the beta coming out in a few days, probably not in this release, but those are really good suggestions. :) I like them.

[The eyes lover]

It's June 1st as of 3 mins ago here in Nova Scotia... where can I download 3.5.0 ? :p

Same thing :D
i hope we can dowanload it:cool:

[zetetic]

well floris i guess these arent new features, just small improvements, i was hoping for PM attachment, and PM quick reply (that is just like the forum thread quick reply)
I know you're talking about 3.5, but in case you or anyone else didn't know it there's a nice hack (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=59999) that provides PM quick reply functionality.

[Arkham]

It's *actually* called sarcasm...

Maybe he was being fasishus. ;)

[Keyser Söze]

I know you're talking about 3.5, but in case you or anyone else didn't know it there's a nice hack (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=59999) that provides PM quick reply functionality.

i dont like that hack, it is not like the normal quick reply (in postbit) or like the hack from vb2 pm quick reply (which was a great hack, by firefly if i recall)

but this isnt the forum for hack discussion, and i dont want to have to hack my forum just to get features i think should already be included :)

[welo]

One thing I find myself wondering is if there is any way to set the expire time on read marking. Far as I can see, just exiting the board and coming back later doesn't reset unread threads anymore and you must use "Mark Forums Read" to reset the board.

In a way I can see the logic behind persistent (non?) read marking, but the fact is there are an awful lot of threads on every board users can safely ignore. Am at least hoping this is an admin and or enduser settable option.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Yes this is an admin option. By default it is set to 3 weeks i think.

[chaeberle]

I am *THRILLED* that vBulletin 3.5.0 is offering a more persistant means of thread read status - but I would also suggest a couple of enchancements to how those threads get listed, since now you can have threads from several days ago show up in your new posts list.

1) Sorting options at the top of the list. Default sort order by display order as seen on forum index page, then by last post date descending.

2) A "Mark thread read" button and a "Mark forum read" button for each thread and each forum group, so that individual threads or a whole forum can be cleared from the list w/o actually reading it or w/o going into that forum to find the mark read button.

Those two enhancements would make this perfect as far as I'm concerned. :)

[Freddie Bingham]

Something I think might be helpful, is an indicator on search results that is on every thread that had its lastpost before your last visit. This way you could quickly see at which point threads were last updated before your last visit and can better consider if you wish to go into them or just mark forums read.

.. but I do agree some tweaking of the interface does need to be looked at.

[Xia]

would it be smart to use this beta already (once it comes out) on a public site? I need to modify vbulletin a bit to work with the rest of my site, but would much rather make the modifications on this new release!

[Fusion]

That's what the test-forum you're allowed to setup is for, Xia. :p
Duplicate your entire site in a protected (non-public) location and tweak your heart out.

[Bro_Joey_Gowdy]

Will the Inferno RPG World system be a part of the intergration ?

[Zachery]

The Inferno RPG World System is not a Jelsoft product, you'd need to contact who ever makes it :)

[Ogden2k]

@Devs: Will there be an option for a per User Group setting to specify how many chars can go into that groups signature?

[YoungCoder]

With a non-public test version, are you allowed to link to it for your members to see? I ask this because I shall be having a new style implimented on the test board and would like members to know what it looks like and suggest improvments :p

[Steve Machol]

Technicallly - no. The test forum cannnot be publicly accessible. If you want to have a few of your staff have a look, that's fine though.

[Ace]

Technicallly - no. The test forum cannnot be publicly accessible. If you want to have a few of your staff have a look, that's fine though.
Thanks for that Steve, it is good to have that officially answered.

[patriotcow]

Where is the 3.5 test version:confused:

[Ace]

It's all around you. :)

(the only 3.5 is running here, on vB.com)

[CMilne]

i want it i want it i want it i want it i want it i want it!!!!!!!!!!

WAIT! I HAVE AN IDEA!
Dont report ANY more bugs until we have a beta, that way, they will think what they are releasing has less bugs, but we'll just report them once we HAVE a beta! Think about it, they wont release a beta, until they think they have all of the main bugs out of the way!

[l0fty]

i want it i want it i want it i want it i want it i want it!!!!!!!!!!

WAIT! I HAVE AN IDEA!
Dont report ANY more bugs until we have a beta, that way, they will think what they are releasing has less bugs, but we'll just report them once we HAVE a beta! Think about it, they wont release a beta, until they think they have all of the main bugs out of the way!

that is not actually very clever

[YoungCoder]

i want it i want it i want it i want it i want it i want it!!!!!!!!!!

WAIT! I HAVE AN IDEA!
Dont report ANY more bugs until we have a beta, that way, they will think what they are releasing has less bugs, but we'll just report them once we HAVE a beta! Think about it, they wont release a beta, until they think they have all of the main bugs out of the way!

BAD IDEA! I would rather wait a few days than have my forum destroyed by some bloodthirsty worm.

[CMilne]

No, bugs like a small quick reply bug, or, a page view bug that comes up once every million views! C'MON PEOPLE! DONT YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT MAGIC LIES IN 3.5.0 ADMIN?!

[Ace]

No, bugs like a small quick reply bug, or, a page view bug that comes up once every million views! C'MON PEOPLE! DONT YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT MAGIC LIES IN 3.5.0 ADMIN?!
Quite happy to wait till it's 'ready'. :)

[CMilne]

Not me, i'm just anxious to get it up on my vbpreview dir and check it out! Password protected of coarse :P

[Razz]

Technicallly - no. The test forum cannnot be publicly accessible. If you want to have a few of your staff have a look, that's fine though.

Steve, does this mean it couldn't be used to demonstrate something publically even if posting was disabled and it was purely for demonstration only?

[Steve Machol]

Steve, does this mean it couldn't be used to demonstrate something publically even if posting was disabled and it was purely for demonstration only?
No, sorry. The idea is that access should be limited to a few staff. If it was publicly accessible, - even without posting - this would violate the license agreement.

[bfoot045]

No, bugs like a small quick reply bug, or, a page view bug that comes up once every million views! C'MON PEOPLE! DONT YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT MAGIC LIES IN 3.5.0 ADMIN?!

I can wait.:)

The more bugs we submit, the faster they will be fixed, the faster the beta will be released, the faster the final version will be released.

[Onimua]

BAD IDEA! I would rather wait a few days than have my forum destroyed by some bloodthirsty worm.

That's why you have a test board and not putting it on a Live board. :p

[Hastin]

Give it time guys. I'm sure Jelsoft won't dissapoint. ;)

[CMilne]

Give it time guys. I'm sure Jelsoft won't dissapoint. ;) They sure wont ..... IF .... they release 3.5.0 within the next 5 days! :p

[StarBuG]

Hi

I have a question about a "Test" Forum.
I am going to make the 3.5 a clean install.
I will make a fresh start because my db is kinda messed up with old hacks I find it difficult to remove because I don´t have mysql knowledge.
Therefor I need to repost the most important threads to the new forum.
I want to give access to the test forum to my designer, and 2-4 people that help me repost threads that are important from the old forum.
The forum will be protected by .htaccess so no other member can access it.
Would that be ok or concidered a violation?

StarBuG

[Marco van Herwaarden]

As long as only a few staff members can access, i don't think it will be considered as a violation.

Have you looked into using ImpEx to get your database free from hacks?

[Darkblade]

Questions. So the Beta will have minor or major bugs in this version? And when is the release date for the Final version?

[Floris]

Hi

I have a question about a "Test" Forum.
I am going to make the 3.5 a clean install.
I will make a fresh start because my db is kinda messed up with old hacks I find it difficult to remove because I don´t have mysql knowledge.
Therefor I need to repost the most important threads to the new forum.
I want to give access to the test forum to my designer, and 2-4 people that help me repost threads that are important from the old forum.
The forum will be protected by .htaccess so no other member can access it.
Would that be ok or concidered a violation?

StarBuG

That should be fine :)
It sounds like a temporary private test setup, so :)

[Colin F]

There's currently no release date for 3.5 Final, but I expect this beta period to be rather short with hopefully only minor bugs.

Then again you never know...

[Floris]

Questions. So the Beta will have minor or major bugs in this version? And when is the release date for the Final version?
All the known bugs will be fixed I believe, but it is just impossible to find them all. With thousends of customers giving the beta a try, a lot more different situations and server setups will discover more bugs.

[chaeberle]

No, sorry. The idea is that access should be limited to a few staff. If it was publicly accessible, - even without posting - this would violate the license agreement.
Would a small handful of users who aren't necessarily mods or admins but are hand selected as part of a beta-testing group be within the limits?

[chaeberle]

Would a small handful of users who aren't necessarily mods or admins but are hand selected as part of a beta-testing group be within the limits?
Never mind I see you answered a similar question already. :)

[Weapon-x]

Hey when or where do we summit bugs for 3.5.0 I think I found one

[Wayne Luke]

Hey when or where do we summit bugs for 3.5.0 I think I found one
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs35.php?do=new

[Darkblade]

All the known bugs will be fixed I believe, but it is just impossible to find them all. With thousends of customers giving the beta a try, a lot more different situations and server setups will discover more bugs.
Well spoken there.

[James Kojiro]

It's early june - can I have my new version of vB now?

[le`shaq]

read the announcements (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=138544) ;)

[Floris]

It's early june - can I have my new version of vB now?
It is early June tomorrow too.

[mharmon]

If I have a customized template set -- I'm going to have to reprogram them to work with 3.5 correct?

[Floris]

Example:

Some templates have been updated to they can use AJAX or other new features, options.
If you have those templates customized then you can probably still use them, but you can't use the new stuff. You have to revert that template and re-apply the customizations.

[zappsan]

whoah, I can't wait^^
I hope it's going to be released as soon as possible :)

[Keyser Söze]

Example:

Some templates have been updated to they can use AJAX or other new features, options.
If you have those templates customized then you can probably still use them, but you can't use the new stuff. You have to revert that template and re-apply the customizations.

so what ur saying is, if i have the template right now changed, when i upgrade i will need to go in and click "revert template" then reapply changes?

or when i upgrade will it overwrite templates automatically

[Floris]

vBulletin template system won't touch customized templates. Any 'stock' template will be updated.

[WiBu]

It is early June tomorrow too.

Is that some hidden hint there floris? Oh well, I just got my test board up and running so I'm ready to test the upgrade process as soon as possible.

[Keyser Söze]

vBulletin template system won't touch customized templates. Any 'stock' template will be updated.

will there be a list of what templates were modified so ppl can know what to update and what not to?

[Zachery]

Yes. As with every other release.

[Floris]

Is that some hidden hint there floris? Oh well, I just got my test board up and running so I'm ready to test the upgrade process as soon as possible.
No, just showing that yesterday, today and tomorrow, and a few days later .. all counts as early June.

[Onimua]

No, just showing that yesterday, today and tomorrow, and a few days later .. all counts as early June.

Such a tease... :p :rolleyes:

[Fusion]

Such a tease... :p :rolleyes:
You know.. Thwy all attend in-house courses to learn to be like this. Really, they do. :p

[Floris]

You know.. Thwy all attend in-house courses to learn to be like this. Really, they do. :p
I am being honest :)


[lets get back on topic now]

[Onimua]

Just remembered something I wanted to ask:

Are there AJACX features in the Admin CP iteself? Or is everyone out on the board?

[AZone]

Will we be able to move post(s) from one thread directly into another?

[Floris]

Will we be able to move post(s) from one thread directly into another?Yes.

[edit]
Oh wait, I am not sure. (misread your question)...


[goes check!]

[Floris]

Yes.

[edit]
Oh wait, I am not sure. (misread your question)...


[goes check!]

You can select posts from one or more threads, and then click on 'move posts' and it gives you a few options :) You'll see!

[Floris]

Just remembered something I wanted to ask:

Are there AJACX features in the Admin CP iteself? Or is everyone out on the board?

A full feature list will be published (and hopefully we don't forget some options) with the public beta announcement.

[AZone]

You can select posts from one or more threads, and then click on 'move posts' and it gives you a few options :) You'll see! That's just wonderful. Thank you.

[Tailfeathers]

It seems like bug fixing has slowed down as the bug tracker has had few bugs these past few days be closed (and plenty aren't even confirmed or anything yet)... how are things going?

[Floris]

It seems like bug fixing has slowed down as the bug tracker has had few bugs these past few days be closed (and plenty aren't even confirmed or anything yet)... how are things going?
That doesn't mean anything; could be the weekend; could be someone is sick; could be someone had car trouble; could be the devs are working on a new feature, could be anything ..

[Freddie Bingham]

You shouldn't expect anything to happen over the weekend.

[Floris]

You shouldn't expect anything to happen over the weekend.Ah, then I can go to my party on Saturday :)

[TalkMilitary]

You shouldn't expect anything to happen over the weekend.

Thanks Freddie. Updates like that are very welcome.

[bfoot045]

Thanks Freddie. Updates like that are very welcome.

He could mean that it may be released tonight(so then there wouldn't be anything happening over the weekend. It would be nice, because I am sitting at home doing nothing this friday. And I am incredibly bored. :cool:

[TalkMilitary]

He could mean that it may be released tonight(so then there wouldn't be anything happening over the weekend. It would be nice, because I am sitting at home doing nothing this friday. And I am incredibly bored. :cool:

What? I take it to mean there will likely be no release this week-end, so no sense sitting here refreshing the page. I could be wrong.... but I doubt it.

Either way, life goes on, and vB will release it when they fell comfortable enough to release a quality product. I can wait.... but I am also anxious to play with the new release. But Patience is a virtue. :)

[CMilne]

Question ... do you guys get pleasure from my pain, my TERRIBLE TERRIBLEPAIN?!

I beg of you, I beg PLEASE try and have the first beta released by this coming friday! PLEASE! You will make me happy

......

well until you announce 4.0.0 anyway

[Floris]

Question ... do you guys get pleasure from my pain, my TERRIBLE TERRIBLEPAIN?!

I beg of you, I beg PLEASE try and have the first beta released by this coming friday! PLEASE! You will make me happy

......

well until you announce 4.0.0 anyway
A bit over the top there, but ok..

Now that we know it probably won't be this weekend, you can all have a relaxing few days and speculate from monday morning again. haha. (instead of just enjoying the current version and silently looking forward :p)

[Floris]

A bit over the top there, but ok..

Now that we know it probably won't be this weekend, you can all have a relaxing few days and speculate from monday morning again. haha. (instead of just enjoying the current version and silently looking forward :p)
Did you guys notice what changed in the what's going on box > statistics?

[Sephiroth]

Did you guys notice what changed in the what's going on box > statistics?
It lists the # of active members of the forum.. Nice job. :)

[Floris]

It lists the # of active members of the forum.. Nice job. :)
Even better .. hover your mouse over the number :)

[AZone]

Even better .. hover your mouse over the number :) Very cool feature! Can we change the period of time? For example, Active Users within 1 week, or 6 months..?

[Floris]

Very cool feature! Can we change the period of time? For example, Active Users within 1 week, or 6 months..?
I don't know the final code, so I do not know.

[Steve Machol]

Very cool feature! Can we change the period of time? For example, Active Users within 1 week, or 6 months..?
Yes it is. I just checked the Admin CP:

Active Members Time Cut-Off
Enter a number of days here that represents a threshold for 'active' members. If a user has visited the board within the past number of days you specify, they are considered 'active'.

Enter '0' to treat all members as 'active'.

[AZone]

Yes it is. I just checked the Admin CP:

Active Members Time Cut-Off
Enter a number of days here that represents a threshold for 'active' members. If a user has visited the board within the past number of days you specify, they are considered 'active'.

Enter '0' to treat all members as 'active'.
I'm in childlike gleefulness. :p Is it normal for my age? :eek: :D

[cmiller1014]

This software is rediculous. This is the only thing I can think of that makes a grown man feel like a kid on christmas eve.

It's like electronic crack

[CMilne]

This software is rediculous. This is the only thing I can think of that makes a grown man feel like a kid on christmas eve.

It's like electronic crack
Oooo, electronic crack, yeah sounds like it :P

This electronic crack is so good, and makes you feal so great, that electronic crack would be worth ( if it where REAL drugs ) 4 Million Dollars per gram!

Mmmm, i CANT WAIT! Btw, i really dont want this to turn out like Windows Longhorn / The Sims 2, where they announced it for a good release date, and then end up taking several months, even years longer to finally produce it!

[Onimua]

Oooo, electronic crack, yeah sounds like it :P

This electronic crack is so good, and makes you feal so great, that electronic crack would be worth ( if it where REAL drugs ) 4 Million Dollars per gram!

Mmmm, i CANT WAIT! Btw, i really dont want this to turn out like Windows Longhorn / The Sims 2, where they announced it for a good release date, and then end up taking several months, even years longer to finally produce it!

Actually, I think electronic crack would be measured in bytes rather than grams. ;)

This makes me more excited even. I just wish they'd stop adding things so that we could get Beta already...

... on second thought, no. Keep adding stuff. :p

[CMilne]

Actually, I think electronic crack would be measured in bytes rather than grams. ;)

This makes me more excited even. I just wish they'd stop adding things so that we could get Beta already...

... on second thought, no. Keep adding stuff. :p on third thought, YES! But, give us a temporary bug filled version, so we can enjoy it, THEN release the proper beta.

Just give us a beta cantidate!

[cmiller1014]

Does anyone in the vbulletin.org community have access to the new code so they can start rewriting hacks for the new plug in system!

My fear is that I will get this new version and then still have to wait months for my favorite hacks to be released. Any thoughts on this? I wonder how hard hacks will be to port over to the new system? I just dont want to have to hack files anymore.

[CMilne]

Nobody but jelsoft would have it, if the 3.5.0 source was handed out to modders, it would be all over the place before jelsoft knew what had happened, friends would give it to friends, who'd give it to friends, it would end up everywhere.

[C.Birch]

on third thought, YES! But, give us a temporary bug filled version, so we can enjoy it, THEN release the proper beta.

Just give us a beta cantidate!

I dont see the point in people crying to have the new beta 3.5 before its ready, lets hang on for it be ready and have a few betas after to we get to the full 3.5 then lets have it now when its clearly not ready and spend months having loads of betas to fix bugs and us having to update every week.

Unlike other companys that give out a very bug filled item we know that even know 3.5 will be a beta they be hardly anything up with it even on a live site.

[CMilne]

I dont see the point in people crying to have the new beta 3.5 before its ready, lets hang on for it be ready and have a few betas after to we get to the full 3.5 then lets have it now when its clearly not ready and spend months having loads of betas to fix bugs and us having to update every week.

Unlike other companys that give out a very bug filled item we know that even know 3.5 will be a beta they be hardly anything up with it even on a live site.
OMFG, i dont mean a production beta you silly goose!!!!!!!!! I mean, i want them to release a pre-beta version, so we can put it up on temporary password protected dir's so we can have a bit of fun with them, check out some of the new features, before the actual system is released.

[C.Birch]

OMFG, i dont mean a production beta you silly goose!!!!!!!!! I mean, i want them to release a pre-beta version, so we can put it up on temporary password protected dir's so we can have a bit of fun with them, check out some of the new features, before the actual system is released.

I still think it would be pointless use of time. its already been said that a beta will be out in a matter of days then weeks so let the devs do there work.

[Marula]

I am soooo looking forward to this release!!!

[poolking]

They sure wont ..... IF .... they release 3.5.0 within the next 5 days! :p

So months last 9 days where you live then? :D

[Wayne Luke]

Nobody but jelsoft would have it, if the 3.5.0 source was handed out to modders, it would be all over the place before jelsoft knew what had happened, friends would give it to friends, who'd give it to friends, it would end up everywhere.

If that happened then the people who did so would lose their licenses. Redistribution is specifically against the license agreement. ;)

[Hiall]

If that happened then the people who did so would lose their licenses. Redistribution is specifically against the license agreement. ;)
Still happens though wayne.

[fire27]

good i'm glad 3.5 isnt out in any form it gives me more time to party

[welo]

One thing I find myself wondering is if there is any way to set the expire time on read marking. Far as I can see, just exiting the board and coming back later doesn't reset unread threads anymore and you must use "Mark Forums Read" to reset the board. ... Am at least hoping this is an admin and or enduser settable option.
Yes this is an admin option. By default it is set to 3 weeks i think.
Good to know. I could see setting it anywhere from 3 days to a week. Much beyond that could get confusing, I think. Would be especially nice if you could set read marking timeout parameters per forum. Regardless, thanks for answering :).

[zappsan]

Did you guys notice what changed in the what's going on box > statistics?
What changed?
I don't see anything new o.o

[Dean C]

What changed?
I don't see anything new o.o

It now shows active members :)

[ChipTz]

Can't see that :D

[Floris]

Can't see that :D

here it is, hover mouse over 'active members: number' part

[Keyser Söze]

Can't see that :D

im just a member, and i can see it fine, so u dont have to be staff to see it, FYI

[Floris]

Here is another feature :P
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=880483&postcount=226

[belinea]

GREAT Feature :p

[BoYagoob]

Here is another feature :P
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=880483&postcount=226


will the attachment be saved on the forum's database or not?

[Steve Machol]

The atttachment is saved like any other attachment - in the db or the file system depending on how you have this set up.

[Darkblade]

Nice feature people. :D

[Floris]

Breadcrumb > Quick Links > Mark Forums Read .. Now click on 'Get New', it will tell you there are of course no new posts.. But looky there, a link to getdaily to get the posts from the last 24 hours. How cool is that! :)

[YoungCoder]

Breadcrumb > Quick Links > Mark Forums Read .. Now click on 'Get New', it will tell you there are of course no new posts.. But looky there, a link to getdaily to get the posts from the last 24 hours. How cool is that! :)

That is definately something I have wanted before, especially when you have an introduction forum that gets loads of new posts everyday :rolleyes:
Normally I would click "new posts" and it would be hard to distinguish between new threads that day, or threads that have just been replied to that day.
Good job! Thankyou! :D

[Kusadasi-Guy]

i think there is no bug left. this new week will be so cool with new actions. cant wait to buy new license.

[Floris]

Did anybody notice yet what happens when you enter a message that is too short? (current limit is 3 characters) .. (Try in testing area forum hehe)

" Okay "

Example: [space] smilie [space]

;)

[Kusadasi-Guy]

Did anybody notice yet what happens when you enter a message that is too short? (current limit is 3 characters) .. (Try in testing area forum hehe)

" Okay "

Example: [space] smilie [space]

;)
when can i use that feature in my forums? :rolleyes:
2moz maybe? ;)

[Floris]

when can i use that feature in my forums? :rolleyes:
2moz maybe? ;)
Perhaps tonight,
perhaps tomorrow,
perhaps tuesday,
perhaps wednesday,
..

We'll see. I don't know when Kier and the others have a) time, b) finished the code so it is stable enough as a beta and c) when they tell me the exact date :)

[darnoldy]

<g>

[Aerith_Freak]

Well this is looking impressive. Anyway forgive me if this has been asked before but I got bored after I got to about Page 10.

When is the estimated stable release? I know that the BETA is due out this month, but are there any semi-concrete dates for a stable release as I'm currently looking at finally porting over from vB2 and completely rehauling, but if this release is going to be rather imminent I'll wait instead of having to upgrade to 3.0.7 and then again to 3.5.0 and have to re-make hacks all over again.

Cheers.

[Bad_i_BILL]

Beta Release=Anyday now...

[zetetic]

[...] but are there any semi-concrete dates for a stable release [...] For some odd reason I've read every post in this thread, and the developers haven't even made a guess at any timeframe beyond the "early June" estimate for the release of the public beta.

[Steve Machol]

Also, try clicking on Thread Tools before the page finishes loading.

[Wayne Luke]

Also, try clicking on Thread Tools before the page finishes loading.
Boy, that is hard to do... I have my options set to show 100 posts per page and I cannot click on Thread Tools before a page is finished loading on this site.

[Chroder]

For some odd reason I've read every post in this thread, and the developers haven't even made a guess at any timeframe beyond the "early June" estimate for the release of the public beta.
So, combining "early June" with the post made by Kier (quoted in Steve's post (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=878220&postcount=4)): Expect the beta in days, not weeks.

So you could probably conclude that it will be released within the next 7 days (at most, I'd say).

[Tailfeathers]

Boy, that is hard to do... I have my options set to show 100 posts per page and I cannot click on Thread Tools before a page is finished loading on this site.
Hehe...somehow at default posts per page I managed to do it on the first try. It says (in an alert): Please wait for the page to finish loading

[Chroder]

Hehe...somehow at default posts per page I managed to do it on the first try. It says (in an alert): Please wait for the page to finish loading And it brings you down to the bottom of the page, and shows you static (ie: not 'menus') controls ;)

[Tailfeathers]

Didn't do that with me... the only times I've ever seen those controls on a page were when a browser didn't have the capabilities to use those menus (otherwise they were not on the page at all, so I wouldn't be able to be taken to them). It just gave me the alert where the page was and stayed there.

[Marboosh.Net]

Also, try clicking on Thread Tools before the page finishes loading.
Coooooool
i like this thing.

Very nice version.

[Floris]

Kier; what you just added .. *magic* Nice job buddy.

Quick Edit, Inline Post Edit .. whatever it is called ;)

[vbcore]

OoOoO Very nice Kier, I like it :)

[Ogden2k]

Inline editing.... VERY nice! I had to clear my cache for it to work which is normal.

Edit: it's not working here for me... only in the support sections.

edit 2: Ok, after I edited my post I could actually edit inline... strange.

[Aerith_Freak]

So, combining "early June" with the post made by Kier (quoted in Steve's post (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=878220&postcount=4)):

So you could probably conclude that it will be released within the next 7 days (at most, I'd say).

I meant the actual stable full release, not the public BETA.

TEST

[WhSox21]

There's a bug with the inline post edit I believe. Before I report it can anyone else confirm they can do the same. I cleared my cache by the way. Double clicking on the text after the textarea has appeared will create another text area below. You can do this numerous times too.

[PitchouneN64ngc]

I can't confirm.

If you have this bug, report in the Bug Tracker (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs35.php) even if you are the only one to have this.

[Dean C]

There's a bug with the inline post edit I believe. Before I report it can anyone else confirm they can do the same. I cleared my cache by the way. Double clicking on the text after the textarea has appeared will create another text area below. You can do this numerous times too.

Yep same happens to me too :)

[daemon]

It works in Safari, too. And now thread title editing works as well.

*bows down to the JavaScript overlords of vB*

And WhSox21, I can confirm this too.

[WhSox21]

I'm reporting this now.

[Floris]

Inline editing.... VERY nice! I had to clear my cache for it to work which is normal.

Edit: it's not working here for me... only in the support sections.

edit 2: Ok, after I edited my post I could actually edit inline... strange.

Perhaps the AJAX quick reply post .. isn't editable.

[daemon]

Perhaps the AJAX quick reply post .. isn't editable.
Probably for the same reasons that the vB menus don't show up on instant replies...

[Ogden2k]

Probably for the same reasons that the vB menus don't show up on instant replies...
Oh... that's strange. I wonder if that will be fixed?

Edit: The menus actually work for me after a QR.

[CMilne]

oooohh, thats nice, when can we have 3.5.0 again?

[Marboosh.Net]

oh my god

i like every things here , i can't wait.

every moment there is a new tool

it's wonderful.

[Floris]

oooohh, thats nice, when can we have 3.5.0 again?
Soon.

[Tailfeathers]

Still not tired of the question yet Floris? :p

[Floris]

Still not tired of the question yet Floris? :p
Nope, answering every customer's question with the same motivation :)

[Tailfeathers]

Hehe, nice.

[Ogden2k]

When is there going to be support for the WYSIWYG editor in Opera? I don't use Opera, but I know some of my staff do.

[Marboosh.Net]

Nope, answering every customer's question with the same motivation :)
what is the specific time to get the new version ? :D

[squall14716]

what is the specific time to get the new version ? :D
I'll save Floris from this one.

Soon.

[vbcore]

Soon.

Floris. Remember what i told you *looks for broom*

[TosaInu]

oh my god

i like every things here , i can't wait.

every moment there is a new tool

it's wonderful.

I'm trying for weeks to discover anything. I noted 3.5.0 preview, and that's it. ???

[Floris]

what is the specific time to get the new version ? :DWhenever it is ready, no need to ask the obvious. I am not a developer :)

[Reimer]

When is there going to be support for the WYSIWYG editor in Opera? I don't use Opera, but I know some of my staff do.

As long as Opera does not add a few Javascript features, which are needed, never.

[ChargedCards]

The exact time of release is a minute after the minute before its released.

[darnoldy]

what works?

--don

[mOdEtWo]

Can't wait. :)

[Floris]

what works?

--don
You can now edit your own posts by double clicking on the content.

[spongebobrox128]

Where do I report bugs?

[Jerry]

Where do I report bugs?

For 3.5 http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs35.php?

[DJDarknez]

It's still early June until the 14th :D

Why is everybody is such a rush? I mean, don't get me wrong, it's great that another version is going to be released, but:

1) I think pretty much every hack written for 3.0.7 will have to be re-written for 3.5.0
2) Any styles / skins might have to be changed too

If I read correctly, the authors of said hacks / styles have to wait just like the rest of us....going to take some time.

Calm yerselves! :)

[squall14716]

It's still early June until the 14th :D

Why is everybody is such a rush? I mean, don't get me wrong, it's great that another version is going to be released, but:

1) I think pretty much every hack written for 3.0.7 will have to be re-written for 3.5.0
2) Any styles / skins might have to be changed too

If I read correctly, the authors of said hacks / styles have to wait just like the rest of us....going to take some time.

Calm yerselves! :)
That's the main reason I am in a rush! ;)

[Tailfeathers]

Makes it a bit easier on those of us who don't really use hacks, hehe.

[Forum-Style]

wow some lovely features coming in here, great work all :)

[Blaminator]

Oooh i like the thread tools thing


wooow, just discovered inline post editing, i love it


give us vb3.5

*Kidnaps a staff member and holds him ransom*

[darnoldy]

You can now edit your own posts by double clicking on the content.No I can't! I thought that's what he was talking about, but it doesn't work for me. Double-clicking on one of my messages only highlights a word--doesn't allow me to edit it.

--don

p.s. this thread is taking minutes to display. I think it really needs to be split into a few separate topics.

[ShadyNight]

Okay, my turn to finally chime in. ;)

I have to admit, this IS going to be a sweet version. And well *hangs head in shame* Even I am tempted to pester, but I am refraining, though barely. LOL

Thanks for all your hard work guys! (and umm maybe gals??? ;) )

[sully02]

No I can't! I thought that's what he was talking about, but it doesn't work for me. Double-clicking on one of my messages only highlights a word--doesn't allow me to edit it.

--don

p.s. this thread is taking minutes to display. I think it really needs to be split into a few separate topics. I just tried it out in the testing area and it worked just fine for me. I'll make sure it works in here by trying to edit this post.

Nope. Doesn't work in here, but I do like the AJAX quick reply!

*Edit - Just tried it on here after waiting a while, and was able to double-click and edit!

[Fusion]

Still not tired of the question yet Floris? :p
He probably gets paid on a per-word basis. :p

[weirdpixels]

the new quick edit feature is great, well done vb :)

[TCM]

The inline editing thing is awesome, but the edited by message isn't showing up. What's up?

And can the size of the editing textbox be controled?

Oh, and you guys rock.

[Hawkbizkit]

wow i can't believe my eyes this new version looks to be super awsome i can't wait just like the rest of us here.

Edit: this inline edit feature is awsome too. :D

[FASherman]

Oooh i like the thread tools thing


wooow, just discovered inline post editing, i love it


give us vb3.5

*Kidnaps a staff member and holds him ransom*

Now if we could just double click on our sigs and edit those too...;)

[Gearloose]

Great feature, but... is it just me who gets confused to have a "hand" cursor all over the post? :confused:

I'd prefer to use a button instead, or to have to double click only in the posts title, or... something but not in the whole post's area.

[TCM]

Great feature, but... is it just me who gets confused to have a "hand" cursor all over the post? :confused:

I'd prefer to use a button instead, or to have to double click only in the posts title, or... something but not in the whole post's area.It is just you. ;)

[babolo]

It is just you. ;)

Ya its just you.

edit: Lol I just noticed it the feature.

[Onimua]

wow i can't believe my eyes this new version looks to be super awsome i can't wait just like the rest of us here.

Edit: this inline edit feature is awsome too. :D

I wanna see a screen shot of that. :p

[Jagged Tooth]

Can't wait for all those new features.

--Jagged Tooth--

[timmed]

Now if we could just double click on our sigs and edit those too...;)

I'll second that, especially since I require my members to have a specific format for signatures.

I hope this comes out soon, can't wait:)

[RMS-Chef]

Great feature, but... is it just me who gets confused to have a "hand" cursor all over the post? :confused:

I'd prefer to use a button instead, or to have to double click only in the posts title, or... something but not in the whole post's area.
I am sure you will be able to disable the feature. :)
I will also toss in my support for the sig editing the same way. I would use it more often than title and content editing combined I think.

[Bryan Ex]

I hope the calendar gets a minor update while vB is at it. Currently it dates back 5 years but ends in December 2006.

[uaexxx]

vB rocks, can't wait no more :(

[poolking]

The inline editing thing is awesome, but the edited by message isn't showing up. What's up?


Because it might be disabled.

[C.Birch]

I hope the calendar gets a minor update while vB is at it. Currently it dates back 5 years but ends in December 2006.

Admin CP - Calendars & Moderators - Calendar Manager - Pick Edit

Options Date Range Beginning and ending years in the format of:
Example: 2002-2008

Enter Your Date Range in the box

Save

[mixx941]

New features look cool. Inline editing looks nice, but what I've really been waiting for is db based post read tracking!

Everytime with my vBulletin 3.0.3 I view a post and want to go back to the index, it always shows new posts in that forum even though there are none. From my testing on this 3.5.0 Preview board, that seems to be working how it should.

Now I just gotta find some $$ to renew my subscription :(

[AZone]

Now I just gotta find some $$ to renew my subscription :( Hmm, $30.00/year ~ $3.00/month ~ $0.10/day. Is it too much for you? :confused:

[iJag]

vB 3.5 is looking really great, I've renewed my subscription and am anxiously awaiting the release. :D

[CMilne]

I haven't been this impatient since the week before HL2 came out! GIVE US VB 3.5!

[Breaker]

Hmm, $30.00/year ~ $3.00/month ~ $0.10/day. Is it too much for you? :confused:
good calculations if there were only 10 months and 30 days in them all :P

can't wait to test this all, good going guys

[Onimua]

I haven't been this impatient since the week before HL2 came out! GIVE US VB 3.5!

It will be Monday soon enough.

Though, I'm just working from what the devs said somewhere (or was it Floris?) that there was nothing happening over the weekend. I'm assuming somewhere around Monday-Wednesday at the latest... I hope.

[WhSox21]

good calculations if there were only 10 months and 30 days in them all :P

can't wait to test this all, good going guys
That's what I would assume the ~ are for to represent an approximate sign. To be honest, what he left out would only make it cheaper / day. Although he did leave out the original purchasing price. :)

[Bryan Ex]

Admin CP - Calendars & Moderators - Calendar Manager - Pick Edit
Doh! An option I hadn't seen since first setting up vB way back when. Much appreciated C.Birch.