Copies Sold?

[GUI]

I was just wondering if anybody knows about how many copies of the vBulletin, they've sold.

Thanks,

-GUI

[werehere]

I believe James said before that it was more than a hundred within like 2 weeks after releasing, so I am sure that number is much greater now. :)

[Pilot]

The number of users registered here must offer a clue. I assume most purchasers and indeed potential purchasers will register here.

I think what will happen is once a really good stable release is available (with a free version to test) the sales will take off.

Some people may wait and see what is in UBB 6. After all at the present time VB 1.1.3 does not have much more than UBB 5.45 - it would be unfortunate to find UBB 6 comes out with more features before VB xx with even more.

[wandrer]

After all at the present time VB 1.1.3 does not have much more than UBB 5.45 - it would be unfortunate to find UBB 6 comes out with more features before VB xx with even more.

I would guess that this comment was made by someone who hasn't purchased vbulletin. I can say that vbulletin has FAR, FAR more features than ubb 5.x or 6.x will - but that knowledge comes from owning it and modifying it to my needs. Its speed, flexability, coding are far better than ubb could ever hope to be.

[UserName]

If vB and UBB had exactly the same features I would buy vB for twice the price of UBB simply because of the flexibility that MySQL/PHP offers. Then we get into performance issues and the value of vB just keeps going up. I have a very high traffic site and vB has been my savior.

I don't want this thread to turn into another war between vB and UBB, but vB is far better for *my* needs. Your results may vary.

[Pilot]

Although (and perhaps because) I earn my living as an IT
specialist, I do not want to code hacks to get the features
I want.

When VB provides significantly more OUT OF THE BOX than UBB and looks stable then I will almost certainly switch.

However I may wait to see UBB 6 - BECAUSE as I have said before - whilst there is a route from UBB to VB without losing data - there IS NO WAY BACK (and there should be really to encourage sites to make the move to VB).

Taking a one-way leap requires confidence - it's not there yet. Keep going Jelsoft, but give users a real leap in built-in facilities to justify the change over.

[Shaman]

The biggest thing about VBulletin isn't its MySQL support - though that is *great* because it's also quick for this style of application, and it's cheap.

The big thing is PHP4. If you run PHP4 with the optimizer module, your web site will spit pages out like mad, for relatively low requirements. MOD_PERL is quickly going in the bitbucket on most hosting co's because PERL is so heavyweight and its execution is comparatively low. CGI's overhead is so high that only novices or stuck-in-a-rut developers are going to use it (admittedly, there are some CGI tasks that require CGI, and those don't really fit into that statement).

PHP also has a lot of built-in functionality and a lot of very nice features upcoming.

Think, for instance, when the compiler is released for PHP4 - your server will get a 4x speed increase immediately, because the code will never go through the optimizer loop, and the loops etc. will already be resolved!

[Edited by Shaman on 06-25-2000 at 10:48 AM]