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Kier
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 12:16pm
Please use this thread to discuss the release of vBulletin 3.0.2.

Do not use this thread to report bugs, as it's likely they will be missed. If you believe you have found a bug, please file a report in the Bug Tracker (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php).

Have fun.

Lurk
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 12:54pm
:) Finally!!!

Zachery
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 12:55pm
Downloaded :D

Vega
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 12:55pm
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaa! :) Nice one!

Electronic Punk
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 12:56pm
It's time to burn!!! :D

Lurk
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 12:58pm
there are some errors with your links in the announcement. It goes to http://bugs.php

2darkpark
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:04pm
I know this is a silly question, but I am hoping someone could help me. In the past (with vb2) I would normally skip updates like these considering all of the hacks/addons/template changes I would make. However, due to a bad 'incident' I would really like to stay updated.

My question: Is there a GOOD/SMART way to go about updating so that hacks/addons/template changes are not wiped? I would really hate to start all over, especially considering my current knowledge of coding being minimal(and the amount of time it took me to make all the changes I wanted to make)?

Zachery
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:05pm
No, its really best to start over every time, while this is more time consuming, its much more secure.

Your templates and database changes will remain intact, just changes to the files need to be repeated

Kier
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:06pm
there are some errors with your links in the announcement. It goes to http://bugs.php
Fixed that now, thanks.

2darkpark
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:08pm
Your templates and database changes will remain intact, just changes to the files need to be repeated
Changes to the templates will remain, however, changes to the FILES (such as the .php files I uploaded to my server) will be altered, correct(I know I basically restated what you said, I apologize. Just want to make sure this is what you mean. hehe)? If that is the case, that might not be too bad in my case (I only have a few edited files at this moment).

So updates do NOT alter any template files? At all?

Jimmy Kane
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:08pm
good timing!
What code changes are going to be needed for the fulltext mySQL search?

Kier
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:09pm
Updates do not touch your customized templates at all.

You should look through the list of changed templates to see if you will need to update any of your customized templates.

Zachery
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:09pm
Nope, vBulletin never updates customized templates, however, you do need to check the release announcments to check to make sure to update any customized templates, that require an update :)

Yes, you will only have to reapply file changes, maybe a template or two

2darkpark
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:11pm
Thanks Kier and Zachery. Definitely would like to avoid any future 'incidents'! Take care.

Ryan Ashbrook
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:16pm
Great, I've got something to look forward to then. ^_^

2darkpark
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:20pm
One last question: Vbphrases and custom bb codes are not wiped, correct?

Kier
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:20pm
Translated phrases are treated in the same way as customized templates.

Snowy
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:26pm
Ok i see its that time again, hope that stupid bug i reported HERE (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&bugid=3057) has been sorted, and before someone starts it is a bug as it should revert to the minimum value allowed as not to cause the effects.

Anyway i will do it over the weekend but will fix the WYSIWYG security issue now.

bahbah
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:27pm
Can you please confirm that these are the changes required in includes/mail.php to use SMTP mail rather than the php mail function ?

var $smtpHost = "mymailserver.com";
var $smtpPort = 25;
var $smtpUser = 'myaccount@mymailserver.com';
var $smtpPass = 'mypassword';
var $smtpSocket = null;

conqsoft
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:29pm
Why is it that after I do the upgrade, then Find All Updated Templates, it only shows a very few? During the upgrade process does it automatically update all the templates that have not been changed by the user (me), then leaves those for you to change on your own?

Thanks

Zachery
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:31pm
Any uncustomized templates, are just templates that are pulled directly from the master style.

If you dont customize them, they will be updated when you upgrade, only customized templates will need to be checked to see if thye need to be altered / reverted

conqsoft
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:33pm
Uprade went fine. I store my attachments in the File System, so I am rebuilding the thumbnails as instructed. It keeps erroring out everytime it encounters a .GIF attachment. Using GD 2+. It shows GIFs as link attachments and not thumbnails anyway, so why would it try to rebuild the thumbnail for those?

Kier
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:41pm
Why is it that after I do the upgrade, then Find All Updated Templates, it only shows a very few? During the upgrade process does it automatically update all the templates that have not been changed by the user (me), then leaves those for you to change on your own?

Thanks
Absolutely correct :)

Zachery
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:41pm
This is not a support thread, if your having problems please start a thread in the correct forums. Thanks :)

conqsoft
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:41pm
This is not a support thread, if your having problems please start a thread in the correct forums. Thanks :)


Oops. Forgot. Will post it there.

Kier
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:43pm
Can you please confirm that these are the changes required in includes/mail.php to use SMTP mail rather than the php mail function ?

var $smtpHost = "mymailserver.com";
var $smtpPort = 25;
var $smtpUser = 'myaccount@mymailserver.com';
var $smtpPass = 'mypassword';
var $smtpSocket = null;
Please bear in mind that these functions are coded to be turned off in vB 3.0.2 for a reason - they are still in a testing phase, and by altering the PHP code to enable SMTP mail you are effectively hacking your PHP files.

SMTP mail and fullltext searching are not officially supported in vBulletin 3.0.2.

Pascal_S
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:43pm
I became an Error at Step 6 of Upgradin from 3.0.1 to 3.0.2

XML Error: junk after document element in Zeile 9823

Many THX for supporting

gorman
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:44pm
Some questions:

1) Where do I find upgrade instructions from 3.0.1 to 3.0.2?

2) How do I activate the Full Text search option?

Shadow Duelist
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:49pm
Oh this is freaqin awesom

Oblivion Knight
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:52pm
Thanks, will work on the upgrade on my test forum.. :)

Zachery
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:53pm
I became an Error at Step 6 of Upgradin from 3.0.1 to 3.0.2

XML Error: junk after document element in Zeile 9823

Many THX for supporting
Please create a support thread in the correct area of the forums, this thread is not for support.

Thansk

Chroder
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:54pm
Oh man, upgrading my (semi)forum is going to be harrrrd. But still great nonetheless :D

2darkpark
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 1:55pm
Final question (sorry. Thanks again for the quick support): Exactly what program would you recommend I use to edit my files? I have always been meaning to ask this, but have just resorted to wordpad. Just curious!

Shining Arcanine
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:01pm
How do you turn on fulltext searching?

Shadow Duelist
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:02pm
I would like to know the same thing.

Dean C
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:07pm
Just a question. You advertise the mysql fulltext search as "Full-text searching for MySQL 4.0 users.". Yet according to the MySQL manual fulltext support was added in 3.23.23.



As of MySQL 3.23.23, MySQL has support for full-text indexing and searching.


You may want to make it clear that this version has compatibility as there's a lot of users running an up to date version of MySQL 3 that can benefit from it ;)

Shining Arcanine
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:14pm
I just discovered that there is a new feature in vBulletin 3.0.2. Admin notes. :D

Zachery
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:16pm
Yeap :D fun stuff

Freddie Bingham
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:16pm
Just a question. You advertise the mysql fulltext search as "Full-text searching for MySQL 4.0 users.". Yet according to the MySQL manual fulltext support was added in 3.23.23.



You may want to make it clear that this version has compatibility as there's a lot of users running an up to date version of MySQL 3 that can benefit from it ;)The current fulltext search only uses IN BOOLEAN MODE which is only supported on 4.0.1+ and actually to search for phrases, you may need 4.0.2+

gorman
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:16pm
Just a question. You advertise the mysql fulltext search as "Full-text searching for MySQL 4.0 users.". Yet according to the MySQL manual fulltext support was added in 3.23.23.



You may want to make it clear that this version has compatibility as there's a lot of users running an up to date version of MySQL 3 that can benefit from it ;)It's been stated repeatedly that mySQL 3.x.x does not offer the full functionality needed for the job.

Jimmy Kane
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:17pm
The current fulltext search only uses IN BOOLEAN MODE which is only supported on 4.0.1+ and actually to search for phrases, you may need 4.0.2+
so how you enable it?

thanks you :)

Shining Arcanine
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:20pm
Hey, Freddie, would you tell us how to enable fulltext searching?

Freddie Bingham
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:20pm
It is not supported. You'll either have to figure it out or go to vbulletin.org and seek help.

Jimmy Kane
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:26pm
That is just mean! how can you take away something so sweet from us all! :p

Zachery
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:29pm
Try searching at vBulletin.org :)

cirisme
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:31pm
So I presume that the only items stored in datastore_cache.php are vboptions, forumcache, usergroupcache, and style cache?

Everything else remains in the db?

Jimmy Kane
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:34pm
you are wonderful Zach, Thank you!

gorman
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:35pm
The current fulltext search only uses IN BOOLEAN MODE which is only supported on 4.0.1+ and actually to search for phrases, you may need 4.0.2+Ok, but now could you tell us how to activate it? :p

Zachery
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:36pm
Go look at vBulletin.org ;)

Electronic Punk
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:44pm
Ack, me database stored attachment thumbnails are not working :o

Electronic Punk
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:49pm
Hmm, new ones are, but old ones aren't

I will keep playing with it tho :s

JimpsEd
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:50pm
Nor mine, I got a Syntax error with SQL when moving thumbs to DB, but I had one thumb so I just deleted it hehe.

Jimpsed == Cheat

JimpsEd
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:52pm
Well, i'm upgraded and all.

But, it went too smoothly. Heck, I didnt even need to edit my templates and my style IS a pretty heavily customised one.

So, I come to the conclusion that nothing on a computer can be so smooth (except the aforementioned thumbs thing).

So what now? Will it explode a year down the line? :D

Freddie Bingham
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:54pm
After upgrading to 3.0.2 everyone must rebuild thumbnails. In order to do that you need to make sure you read this post (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=696866&postcount=4). If you downloaded the zip before 10:17 PST you'll need to replace a file.

noppid
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:56pm
Where's the thread with the files and templates changed list?

EDIT: Found it. Nice job. Easy upgrade.

Electronic Punk
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 2:58pm
Yeah, I am rebuilding the thumbnails at the moment.
So I will wait until after that has completed.

Another 1500 or so to go tho :)

Wayne Luke
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 3:11pm
Just a question. You advertise the mysql fulltext search as "Full-text searching for MySQL 4.0 users.". Yet according to the MySQL manual fulltext support was added in 3.23.23.

You may want to make it clear that this version has compatibility as there's a lot of users running an up to date version of MySQL 3 that can benefit from it ;)
MySQL 3.23.23 does not support Boolean Full Text Search which is what vBulletin will be using therefore, the minimum required version of MySQL would be 4.0.1. ;)

Mainer82
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 3:21pm
Woa, I like the Admin notes. Excellent addition!

How do I enable the new search features?

Dean C
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 3:29pm
MySQL 3.23.23 does not support Boolean Full Text Search which is what vBulletin will be using therefore, the minimum required version of MySQL would be 4.0.1. ;)
Ah right - thanks for the info ;)

Electronic Punk
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 4:14pm
Ok thumbnails are pretty much sorted, dunno if the first misc.php was the problem, but apart from that fairly painless...

Now to get me hacks back on :)

Mainer82
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 4:15pm
Woa, I like the Admin notes. Excellent addition!

How do I enable the new search features?
It seems as though each admin can only see their own Admin notes, correct? I still cannot figure out how to enable the new search features.

Wayne Luke
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 4:21pm
I still cannot figure out how to enable the new search features.
Fulltext Search is a technology preview at this time and requires modifying files in the code. You will have to check at vBulletin.org.

Eventually, it will be controlled through the ACP.

Merjawy
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 4:22pm
heres a bigger question :)

one of my licenses expired few days ago.. (I am going to renew it shortly) but... what if I didn't want to renew it.. and as you stated this is security update to the real version (3.0) what can I do now? revert to 2.3.5? :) or disable WYSISWYG?.. or use functions_editor.php from another license? not fair.. I think a lic should allow me to download all security fixes and update as long they are under the real version.. like in 3.0.1 or 3.0.2 are just fixes for 3.0 which was paid for right? :)

This is not 4.0 or 3.1 this is (3.0.1/3.0.2)


maybe like in Owned License. cases?????


Thanks

Sam FT
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 4:29pm
I see that the footer was changed because the privacy statement? I have custom system and I my footer template is modified so I like to know what was added so I can add the new code.
Thanks

Shining Arcanine
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 4:30pm
The terms of your owned license is that you get 1 year of free upgrades and after that you have to pay for another year if you want to download new versions from the members area. It is fair.

By the way, I believe getting the updated file from another license is illegal.

Zachery
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 4:32pm
Yes it is, you can only use files from your own licesne, for THAT site.

edeab220
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 4:33pm
Oh...what are the "PDA Enhancements"? I run a PDA Forum so I would love to know this answer :D.

Wayne Luke
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 4:34pm
heres a bigger question :)

one of my licenses expired few days ago.. (I am going to renew it shortly) but... what if I didn't want to renew it.. and as you stated this is security update to the real version (3.0) what can I do now? revert to 2.3.5? :) or disable WYSISWYG?.. or use functions_editor.php from another license? not fair.. I think a lic should allow me to download all security fixes and update as long they are under the real version.. like in 3.0.1 or 3.0.2 are just fixes for 3.0 which was paid for right? :)

This is not 4.0 or 3.1 this is (3.0.1/3.0.2)


maybe like in Owned License. cases?????


Thanks
The security fix you are looking for is here:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=696147&postcount=132

There is a lot more to this release than a security fix.

Zachery
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 4:35pm
If you are on a PDA go into the Archive and give it a try ;)

Wayne Luke
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 4:35pm
Oh...what are the "PDA Enhancements"? I run a PDA Forum so I would love to know this answer :D.
Use your PDA and point it at your forums Archive. You will get a low-bandwidth version you can use there. Offer's logging in but posting and searching is coming I believe.

Merjawy
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 4:36pm
The terms of your owned license is that you get 1 year of free upgrades and after that you have to pay for another year if you want to download new versions from the members area. It is fair.

I know all that and I understand it.. but look at the word you used, "New versions"

this is not a new verion, this is just update and more so its a security update !!




By the way, I believe getting the updated file from another license is illegal.

again, I know that, it is illegal according to Jelsoft licence agreement, I am just stating the only options left to do



Thanx for your comment mate :)

Merjawy
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 4:40pm
The security fix you are looking for is here:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=696147&postcount=132

There is a lot more to this release than a security fix.Now that is more like it.. :)

this is what I am talking about.. you see I am not asking to update/upgrade my forum for the sake of enhancement or what have you.. this is a security update for a verion I already paid for..


Thanks Wayne.. thats the way :)

Shining Arcanine
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 4:58pm
I know all that and I understand it.. but look at the word you used, "New versions"

this is not a new verion, this is just update and more so its a security update !!
Actually, this file is different than the file that you downloaded in 3.0.1, therefore it is a new version.

Tailfeathers
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 5:23pm
Upgraded without any problems. Thanks, vB!

Mr. HillBilly
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 5:44pm
I love the admin notes :)

sabret00the
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 5:59pm
seems like a major amount of files have changed oh well, good work guys, can't wait to play with it.

Daveh
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 6:05pm
We just upgraded (http://www.ttlg.com/forums) from 3.0.1 - everything we nice and smoothly, very pleased :)

Tailfeathers
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 6:21pm
I took the oppertunity to remove a couple hacks I had installed when upgrading too. ;) Now I only have one small hack (spellcheck) besides Fulltext.

TTG
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 6:30pm
After reading all the problems that folks are having with the upgrade to 3.0.2 ... I think I'll wait a couple of months until all the bugs are ironed out ;)

Great work BTW .. 3.0.1 works well enough :)

Zachery
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 6:31pm
What bugs?
The one major bug was fixed within 5 min of it being found.

Freddie Bingham
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 6:32pm
People are having problems because they have hacked their forums.

Blackbeard
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 6:34pm
Where do i find which templates have changed

Zachery
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 6:35pm
Where do i find which templates have changed
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=696714&postcount=2

Ratchet
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 6:58pm
The upgrade went painlessly on our forums as well. Moslty because we don't have any hacks installed I suspect.

The Admins Notes system would be a much more useful feature if all Admins could see notes from other Admins, not just their own.

sabret00the
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 7:06pm
seems plans are already in motion to remove the mod cp and have one big cp full of conditionals :eek:

Ichneumon
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 7:14pm
The Admins Notes system would be a much more useful feature if all Admins could see notes from other Admins, not just their own.
I'll second that. Hope for it in a new version. :)

PitchouneN64ngc
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 7:16pm
Forum updated ;)

Floris
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 7:17pm
Upgraded vBulletin Netherlands Forums in a matter of minutes without any problem.

Wayne Luke
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 7:30pm
seems plans are already in motion to remove the mod cp and have one big cp full of conditionals :eek:
Not conditionals but permissions based...

As it is the Mod CP is currently superfluous as pretty much everything that can be done there can be done in the ACP. Just needs additional security so you can allow a MOD to work on one forum, or one style or one usergoup instead of all of them.

Freddie Bingham
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 7:33pm
The upgrade went painlessly on our forums as well. Moslty because we don't have any hacks installed I suspect.

The Admins Notes system would be a much more useful feature if all Admins could see notes from other Admins, not just their own.
Wouldn't you call that a forum with access just for Administrators?

Ichneumon
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 7:38pm
Wouldn't you call that a forum with access just for Administrators?Certainly we have that... but now with a notes capability right in the admincp home page, can leave quick/useful notes..

Like for example...
*Don't turn on WYSIWYG Editor due to known security flaw! Wait until 3.0.2 upgrade*

Wouldn't it be nice to have that right when one of my admin underlings logs in instead of having to go make sure they read some specific thread about not making a change?

sabret00the
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 7:52pm
Not conditionals but permissions based...

As it is the Mod CP is currently superfluous as pretty much everything that can be done there can be done in the ACP. Just needs additional security so you can allow a MOD to work on one forum, or one style or one usergoup instead of all of them.
sounds awesome, i feel a tad stupid as i meant conditionals based on usergroups but i guess permissions would've been more sensible. any idea on what version (i won't ask date) this is likely o be the case? i.e. how many released before we can delete the mod directory?

Wayne Luke
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 8:22pm
sounds awesome, i feel a tad stupid as i meant conditionals based on usergroups but i guess permissions would've been more sensible. any idea on what version (i won't ask date) this is likely o be the case? i.e. how many released before we can delete the mod directory?
It will probably be a slow transition over the 3.X series.

Ace
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 8:23pm
Looking at the readme.html files in the root of the download, why isn't there a freshinstall_readme.html?

(Or a 3.0.1_readme.html)?

edeab220
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 9:28pm
Use your PDA and point it at your forums Archive. You will get a low-bandwidth version you can use there. Offer's logging in but posting and searching is coming I believe. That's cool :). I wonder when posting and searching will come...

ok...now I feel stupid. How do we get into the archive? :o

gorman
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 9:36pm
That's cool :). I wonder when posting and searching will come...

ok...now I feel stupid. How do we get into the archive? :o
If you have enabled it, look at the very bottom of the page, on the right. On every page, basically.

edeab220
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 9:41pm
If you have enabled it, look at the very bottom of the page, on the right. On every page, basically. Thanks :).

Rocol
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 10:40pm
Nice one guys .. downloaded and will be updating soon .. cheers ;)

jw791
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 10:45pm
I've done 11 upgrades since 2.3.2 to 3.0.2.

Never once did it not work on the 1st try. Thanks!

webstar
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 10:50pm
Did the multiple PayPal IPN enhancement make it into 3.0.2 as per http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=662781&postcount=5?

cinq
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 11:27pm
Hi , has this been addressed ?

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107040

It was mentioned it will be added in this new revision, but I couldn't find it in the updated features/fixes/bugs lists.
Would appreciate a reply on this.

jw791
Fri 2nd Jul '04, 11:52pm
I don't know if this is the appropriate place to post this, but after upgrading to 3.0.2 I found out that a person's age is displayed (at least in the legacy postbit) by default on each post on the left-hand user info part.

IMO "display age" should default to "no". I found out how to fix this but I think a person's age should not be displayed on every post by default (my board is mostly age 20-50 females and I don't think that age needs to be called out with each post)

Otherwise, everything went well w/the upgrade.

Tailfeathers
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 12:37am
I guess I didn't have many problems because of my lack of hacks too. I had a few but nothing too major that I couldn't just redo in a few minutes after upgrading (and like I said, I ended up getting rid of a few). 100% smooth transition here. :)

Trigunflame
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 1:39am
Thumbs up Wayne,Freddie,Scott,Kier the MySQL 4 integration seems to be working flawlessly so far.

pinfo
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 3:13am
I don't know if this is the appropriate place to post this, but after upgrading to 3.0.2 I found out that a person's age is displayed (at least in the legacy postbit) by default on each post on the left-hand user info part.

IMO "display age" should default to "no". I found out how to fix this but I think a person's age should not be displayed on every post by default (my board is mostly age 20-50 females and I don't think that age needs to be called out with each post)

Otherwise, everything went well w/the upgrade.
Same problem here. Somehow it automatically shows age on my legacy postbit. That template was customized prior to the update so I thought that it wasn't supposed to be changed?

pinfo
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 3:19am
Why is it that after I do the upgrade, then Find All Updated Templates, it only shows a very few? During the upgrade process does it automatically update all the templates that have not been changed by the user (me), then leaves those for you to change on your own?
Thanks

Any uncustomized templates, are just templates that are pulled directly from the master style.

If you dont customize them, they will be updated when you upgrade, only customized templates will need to be checked to see if thye need to be altered / reverted
Conqsoft noticed the same thing I did posted here: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109269

I am seeing that there are templates that were customized, that were also listed as being updated, but do not show up under "find updated templates".

This leaves us with the problem of going through each separately, and it is also a problem for those people who only use "find updated templates" thinking it's working properly... because chances are they do have customized templates that were customized that need to be changed with this update, but they won't see that because they're not showing up under "find updated templates".

Steve Machol
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 3:19am
Admin CP -> vBulletin Options -> Thread Display Options (showthread) -> Post Elements -> Display Age -> uncheck

kyk0
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 4:26am
Hehe nice release, I have to buy members area access again so I can download it. :)

I think I will just buy another owned license though. :)

mtha
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 6:00am
Improvements Since 3.0.1
A custom profile field can now be set to allow modification only at registration.
I'm wondering HOW this one work? what should it do?

What should it be different if you create a custom field, and set the "Field Required = No", but display at registration. this field will definitely be "Editable by User" at registration, isnt it?



ACP/User Profile Field/User Profile Field Manager/

Field Required: Yes / No / No, but display at registration
Field Editable by User: Yes / No / Only at registration


or it should mean, you can either set "Field Required = yes", and only editable at registration? How ever, if the field is required, it have to be editable at registration already, then ... it's not an improvement.

:confused:



New Reputation Usergroup Permissions (Can Leave Negative Feedback, Can Use Reputation, Can Hide Reputation, Can See Own Reputation)

what is "Cab leave negative feedback"? how can we use it?

I've turn it on and off for Register User group, but I didnt see the difference when giving someone some reputation

Carter876
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 6:11am
Just upgraded, all works fine for me :)

Good Job Devs ;)

Regards

RaptoR|PuF
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 7:20am
Upgrade itself worked, but rebuilding attachments seems to take forever, and hangs after the first few attachments. Also, the thumbs that it does process don't display properly (example: http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showpost.php?p=1124842&postcount=31).

This is for a large board with a 1.5GB attachment table (storing attachments in the DB, obviously).

Anders P
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 7:42am
Upgrade itself worked, ....
Also, the thumbs that it does process don't display properly (example: http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showpost.php?p=1124842&postcount=31).

I have the same problem.

Se also this post (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?p=697412#post697412)

/Anders

Electronic Punk
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 8:30am
Told you how I fixed the thumbnails in the above thread.

2darkpark
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 8:45am
This is from another thread, but I meant to post it here.


Actually, I do have another question.

In the template changes, this is listed...

modifyusergroups_memberbit

Changed $isleader to $show['isleader']

Requires revert? Yes

Now, if I change this manually, does it still need a revert??? The instructions weren't as clear. This was only an example, but applies to all templates where Revert is stated as being required. Another example, I was the one who reported the redundant TD's (or at least one of them). Those are already fixed. Do I still need to revert that template?I have the exact same question! If I make the mentioned changes, do I still need to revert? I would assume not. Also, can you specify what the changes were made to postbit_legacy so I could do them manually? The block for it was not very specific and I would like to fix the announcement problem. Here is what was in the thread:

postbit_legacy

Altered conditional so that announcement dates span two columns rather than wrapping in the first column. Also deprecated the $show['start_until_end'] conditional in favor of $show['announcement']. Either can be used though.

Freddie Bingham
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 12:31pm
If Editable by User is set to "Only at registration" then that means what it says - the user will only be able to edit it when registering. This means you have to set "Field Required" to either "Yes" or "No, but display at registration" since if you don't show it, then they won't have a way to edit it. It is all a bit obtuse I agree and needs some thought to better wording but that is what tends to happen when we offer so many little options like this.

As for reputation, if you set "Can leave negative rep" to No then the user should only see the positive option when leaving reputation. I've just checked the reputation template and the conditional that hides the negative option is missing. At any rate, you still can't leave negative reputation, if you don't have that permission, as the code won't allow it, try it and you'll see. I'll post a fix in the bug tracker for hiding the negative option.
I'm wondering HOW this one work? what should it do?

What should it be different if you create a custom field, and set the "Field Required = No", but display at registration. this field will definitely be "Editable by User" at registration, isnt it?



ACP/User Profile Field/User Profile Field Manager/

Field Required: Yes / No / No, but display at registration
Field Editable by User: Yes / No / Only at registration


or it should mean, you can either set "Field Required = yes", and only editable at registration? How ever, if the field is required, it have to be editable at registration already, then ... it's not an improvement.

:confused:


what is "Cab leave negative feedback"? how can we use it?

I've turn it on and off for Register User group, but I didnt see the difference when giving someone some reputation

webstar
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 12:57pm
Did the multiple PayPal IPN enhancement make it into 3.0.2 as per http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=662781&postcount=5?

I realise that this isn't on the top of everyone elses priority list, but I would appreciate an official reply to this as this is one feature that I would particularly find useful.

Multiple PayPal IPN URLs were said to be scheduled for the next release, but I don't see it mentioned in the changelog.

If I should be raising this elsewhere please let me know where.

Thanks

pank
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 1:44pm
Yes, I'm curious to know what

Altered conditional so that announcement dates span two columns rather than wrapping in the first column. does exactly to. When updating my skins last night I wanted to test it but couldn't. Is this something to do with "reminders"?

ap0c
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 2:14pm
think I'll wait on the upgrade for a few more versions, but thanks for releasing the security fix

Nitemare
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 2:30pm
Why are SOME people with hacks having problems? Is it a database problem (such as queries ran), template, or PHP?

Just wondering.

Thunderfall
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 4:02pm
After upgrading to 3.0.2 everyone must rebuild thumbnails. In order to do that you need to make sure you read this post (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=696866&postcount=4).
Even for forums that don't have thumbnails enabled? :confused:

Zachery
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 4:03pm
If you dont use thumbnails, i dont think you need to worry about it :)

Freddie Bingham
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 5:22pm
Even for forums that don't have thumbnails enabled? :confused:
No.

hIBEES
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 7:26pm
will the upgrade effect a recently installed vbportal :confused:

Steve Machol
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 7:39pm
Upgrading always overwrites hacked files. For support with this you should ask at the vBPortal forums.

hIBEES
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 7:40pm
Upgrading always overwrites hacked files. For support with this you should ask at the vBPortal forums.
no problem,thanks

Ocean
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 8:07pm
The post regarding misc.php was changed from its original version. Originally, it stated that you only needed to replace misc.php if you downloaded the entire package prior to a particular date/time.


Now, it just states to replace misc.php.

I noticed that the vB 3.02 package had been updated (as of 7/2/2004 12:16pm) - but the misc.php included is still different from the one listed in the Announcement.


So, can someone explain what exactly is going on? Does misc.php need to be replaced no matter what?

If so, how long until the entire package is updated so that it includes the updated file(s)?

ImportPassion.com
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 8:17pm
can we get the english translation? :P


There is an issue rebuilding thumbnails in that you may receive an error if you have the in the FS or you'll receive broken images if you have them in the database

ZiRu$
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 8:53pm
Exactly what program would you recommend I use to edit my files?
Edit Plus is the best in my opinion.

www.editplus.com (http://www.editplus.com)



Good work everyone, been waiting on this!

wential
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 9:01pm
I like www.winsyntax.com (http://www.winsyntax.com) for editing PHP files and it's FREE!

Freddie Bingham
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 9:01pm
You need to use the misc.php that I posted in the announcements forum until I say otherwise. I can not update the download at this time. I removed the original post since it was no longer relevant.

Ocean
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 10:01pm
You need to use the misc.php that I posted in the announcements forum until I say otherwise. I can not update the download at this time. I removed the original post since it was no longer relevant.




Okay, thanks Freddie! :)

Ocean
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 10:22pm
Another issue regarding the removal of titles when a subscription finishes has been reported. If you receive a database error regarding this please upload the attached file to the includes folder.


Can someone give more information as to what is going on with this bug? I couldn't find it anywhere.

Also...


1. If we encounter this problem - where exactly would this database error occur?

2. Should we replace the older version of this file in the vB 3.02 package with this newer one before uploading everything and running upgrade.php? Or should it only be used if an error is encountered?

cinq
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 10:26pm
Hi , has this been addressed ?

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107040

It was mentioned it will be added in this new revision, but I couldn't find it in the updated features/fixes/bugs lists.
Would appreciate a reply on this.

Hi guys, would like to know if this has been addressed ?

PitchouneN64ngc
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 10:26pm
For the second point, you must to upload the file only if you have subscriptions on your forums (if an error is encountered with subscriptions).

Steve Machol
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 10:26pm
I would just replace the files with the new ones posted in the announcement. These are the latest ones.

goyo
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 11:19pm
Upgrade itself worked, but rebuilding attachments seems to take forever, and hangs after the first few attachments.
...
This is for a large board with a 1.5GB attachment table (storing attachments in the DB, obviously).Must be a problem on you side...

We have around 251.000 attachments (80 GB) and the thumbnail rebuilding going great (it's running for 2 hours...now processing the 87.000th thumbnail...)

Martin22
Sat 3rd Jul '04, 11:39pm
Upgrade went off without a hitch (woohoo!) and I have the updated misc.php and functions_subscriptions.php files in place, too. Just making sure I have my bases covered.

The one thing I'm unsure of is:


postbit_legacy

Altered conditional so that announcement dates span two columns rather than wrapping in the first column. Also deprecated the $show['start_until_end'] conditional in favor of $show['announcement']. Either can be used though.

This is the only edited template I've got in place, but unlike all the others listed, it doesn't say whether it has to be reverted or not. Does it?

If yes, I have an extensively edited postbit_legacy for one skin for use in a forum I never use announcements in. Is it worth the headache?

ImportPassion.com
Sun 4th Jul '04, 12:16am
is there anyway to get exact changes to the templates? like replaced this with this, or added this before this etc?

Steve Machol
Sun 4th Jul '04, 12:18am
Sorry but that info is not available.

Erwin
Sun 4th Jul '04, 12:45am
I assume that if I download the ZIP AFTER the 2 new updated files were posted in the Announcement thread, that the 2 new files are in the ZIP. Yes? :)

Steve Machol
Sun 4th Jul '04, 12:50am
I believe Freddie stated he does not have access to change the zip files so his fixed is not in it yet. Not sure about Scott's.

Erwin
Sun 4th Jul '04, 12:56am
Mmm... in that case, this should be made clear for people downloading the ZIP. :) Most users should be able to assume that all fixes would be added to the ZIP once they are announced.

Anyway, I best download the fixes manually as well then.

House_of_Crazed
Sun 4th Jul '04, 1:18am
Not conditionals but permissions based...

As it is the Mod CP is currently superfluous as pretty much everything that can be done there can be done in the ACP. Just needs additional security so you can allow a MOD to work on one forum, or one style or one usergoup instead of all of them.
I am interested in knowing more about this. :)

Either it's me, or I'm just plain stupid, LOL cuz I can't seem to see anything in relation to this in the admincp or modcp

HoC

Wayne Luke
Sun 4th Jul '04, 1:21am
It is a process that will occur over time. It is not in place yet.

House_of_Crazed
Sun 4th Jul '04, 1:23am
Oh, in other words, I'm stupid?? *laughs* No sweat :)

HoC

Ian Gordon
Sun 4th Jul '04, 3:08am
Do you think it would be possible to offer this release with a style with no images? I am trying to get rid of all the images but its a long tedious process, can the developers offer a graphic-less release?

Marc Smith
Sun 4th Jul '04, 3:32am
is there anyway to get exact changes to the templates? like replaced this with this, or added this before this etc?I use bbedit and copy the 'pre-change- templates' and then revert the template and copy that to a second file and compare the two. I do that on my test board as I do upgrades there first. That way it's a matter of uploading all the files, doing the upgrade, reverting templates (I only have a few customized) and pasting in the one which came from the comparison on my test board.

My upgrade went very well except fot 6 'bad' attachments and a small problem I just did identify on my production board with the More Smilies popup box. The box comes up but just says:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: can_administer() in /usr/local/www/data-dist/Forums/misc.php on line 33

I started a thread on the Smilies issue.

Erwin
Sun 4th Jul '04, 9:55am
You may have uploaded the misc.php posted by Scott into the forum directory instead of the admincp - I did that too by mistake. :) Upload Scott's misc.php into the admincp instead.

Marc Smith
Sun 4th Jul '04, 10:24am
Yeah - I did exactly that - This morning I updated the thread I started yesterday about the 'problem' and detailed my mistake. Sooner or later I'll learn to read the fine print...

cybermomcafe
Sun 4th Jul '04, 11:05am
I upgraded my testboard lastnight and it all went fine, but now I'm doing my live board and when I try to go to the /forum/install/upgrade.php file, it redirects me to my ACP... ?

DOH! nevermind ;)

forgot to change the entries in config.php when I uploaded everything to the live forums folder... :D

cirisme
Sun 4th Jul '04, 12:19pm
I redownloaded the vBulletin zip the other day when Freddie said to and rebuilt thumbnails yesterday based on those instructions, too. Now I need to upload the attached misc.php... do I have to rebuild thumbnails again, or what?

And why do we need to rebuild thumbnails?

jw791
Sun 4th Jul '04, 1:45pm
Admin CP -> vBulletin Options -> Thread Display Options (showthread) -> Post Elements -> Display Age -> uncheck
Yeah, a minor inconveniece, easily fixable like you posted. But for future releases can we get the default set to no? I'd hate to make the same change each upgrade.

Wayne Luke
Sun 4th Jul '04, 1:56pm
Yeah, a minor inconveniece, easily fixable like you posted. But for future releases can we get the default set to no? I'd hate to make the same change each upgrade.
You should never have to reset this option with a new upgrade. Options are not overwritten. Only new options have a default set.

Beth
Sun 4th Jul '04, 2:02pm
vBulletin 3.0.2 Released - Discuss It's great. A credit to you guys and gals.
I love the automatic query thingie.

Chroder
Sun 4th Jul '04, 2:14pm
What automatic query thingie :eek:

Beth
Sun 4th Jul '04, 2:24pm
Admin CP -> Import & Maintenance -> Execute SQL Query -> Automatic Query

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101925

Ocean
Sun 4th Jul '04, 3:46pm
The members' area package now contains the patched files listed above.




The download portion of the Member's Area still shows that the package was last updated on 7/2/2004.

So, has the package been fully updated yet? Or is that to happen later today?

Mystics
Sun 4th Jul '04, 4:50pm
So, has the package been fully updated yet? Or is that to happen later today?
The package is up-to-date, the message not ;)

Tailfeathers
Sun 4th Jul '04, 5:22pm
You should never have to reset this option with a new upgrade.
I had to do a reset as well. I had it set to no before the upgrade but it went to yes after the upgrade...had to go back and change it to no again.

The upgrade went 100% smoothly, by the way, so it's no biggie. :)

jw791
Sun 4th Jul '04, 9:26pm
You should never have to reset this option with a new upgrade. Options are not overwritten. Only new options have a default set.
Wayne, I was trying to be very polite and point out a bug in the upgrade. All I know is that since I've been on vbulletin since 2.2.9, and using the legacy postbit since 3.0 early RCs, age has never showed up in the display. Frankly I was unaware it was even an option until I upgraded from 3.0.1 to 3.0.2 and had to debug it and turn it off. At least 2 others have reported the same thing in this thread.

It is very, very minor and easily fixable, but upgrading every 3 months takes time and it is just one less step I would like to deal with. But please don't toss aside my feedback like I messed up my configuration beforehand. Vb is a great product and since I keep it upgraded all the time I would like to see the process as painless as possible.

Freddie Bingham
Sun 4th Jul '04, 10:00pm
The age showed up because the option was deleted and replaced with an option that controlled more than one thing, Age and Reputation power. In the future I will place more items in there for easy on/off control. I set the default option to have the Age on and that is why it popped on. I've sinced turned it off but that is only going to effect those that upgrade from 3.0.1 to 3.0.3. Everyone else will need to turn it off.

Also if you weren't aware, anyone can see the age of someone if they simply look at their profile, assuming the person put in a year of birth.

jw791
Sun 4th Jul '04, 10:24pm
The age showed up because the option was deleted and replaced with an option that controlled more than one thing, Age and Reputation power. In the future I will place more items in there for easy on/off control. I set the default option to have the Age on and that is why it popped on. I've sinced turned it off but that is only going to effect those that upgrade from 3.0.1 to 3.0.3. Everyone else will need to turn it off.

Also if you weren't aware, anyone can see the age of someone if they simply look at their profile, assuming the person put in a year of birth.
Thanks for the explanation. Yeah, age is visibile in the user profile and I have it in my TOS that optional info may be publically viewable. I like location and postcount in the legacy postbit left, but just felt uncomfortable with age being displayed on every post under a person's screen name.

Again, kudos on a smooth upgrade - look forward to 3.0.3.

Tailfeathers
Sun 4th Jul '04, 11:11pm
Thanks, Freddie -- that makes sense. :)

cinq
Sun 4th Jul '04, 11:11pm
Hi , has this been addressed ?

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107040

It was mentioned it will be added in this new revision, but I couldn't find it in the updated features/fixes/bugs lists.
Would appreciate a reply on this.


just a simple yes or no ...

Erwin
Sun 4th Jul '04, 11:41pm
I notice that the option to set No-Cache Headers is always reset to Yes after each upgrade. I assume this is intentional to update new templates - is that right?

Tailfeathers
Mon 5th Jul '04, 12:19am
:eek:

I just noticed that. I've now set it to no agian, yet I still have no cache headers on my board...weird.

Kier
Mon 5th Jul '04, 12:40am
vBulletin 3.0.3 Released - Discuss (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109435)

Seeing as we released 3.0.2 only a couple of days ago, I will allow this thread to stay open and use it as the joint discussion for 3.0.2 and 3.0.3.

noppid
Mon 5th Jul '04, 12:57am
vBulletin 3.0.3 Released - Discuss (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109435)

Seeing as we released 3.0.2 only a couple of days ago, I will allow this thread to stay open and use it as the joint discussion for 3.0.2 and 3.0.3.

Wow guys...This is not cool. :rolleyes:

Kier
Mon 5th Jul '04, 1:02am
The vast majority of our customers won't have downloaded 3.0.2 yet, having been away for various weekend activities. I therefore made the decision to release 3.0.3 now so that the various fixes would reach our customers as soon as possible.

My apologies to those who have already upgraded to 3.0.2, but I'm thinking of the greater good here.

cybermomcafe
Mon 5th Jul '04, 1:10am
oh :/ Just got done too... LOL

c0bra
Mon 5th Jul '04, 1:18am
Wow guys...This is not cool. :rolleyes:
Agreed. Unfortunately, I forgot the lessons of the past when several releases of vBulletin were knocked out in a very short space of time. Based on those experiences, I would hold off upgrading again for awhile because we might see another release very soon. ;)

Snowy
Mon 5th Jul '04, 1:35am
ok.

eoc_Jason
Mon 5th Jul '04, 1:36am
lol, and I thought I waited long enough too before upgrading to 3.0.2 (I remember before when updates were rolled out pretty quick too).

Oh well, thankfully I only have a few modified files and templates. The bulk of the time from the 3.0.2 update was rebuilding thumbnails (my forum had nearly 40,000 I think)

But ranting aside, I actually had a constructive comment which I don't know if anyone has suggested before. Would it be possible to include a plain txt (or even a HTML) changlog file with the downloaded zip basically stating the info that is in release thread? I find myself copying it to a text file anyhow so I can print it out and go through a "checklist" to make sure all the files & templates get updated that need to be. Just a thought, no huge deal if you laugh at me and call me crazy. ;)

Tailfeathers
Mon 5th Jul '04, 2:03am
Upgraded smoothly from 3.0.2 to 3.0.3 (user above -- don't forget to run the upgrade script /install/upgrade.php). Thanks for the bug fixes, vB staff!

ogetbilo
Mon 5th Jul '04, 2:10am
I just upgraded to 3.0.2 which took me a lot of time. Everytime I upgrade I have to do all my code modifications over.

My question is, is there going to be a 3.0.4 release soon? I don't want to go into that mess one more time if there will be another release soon.

maggie
Mon 5th Jul '04, 2:18am
Guys, I know ya'll are working hard to get bug fixes to us as quickly as possible, but is it possible to just put out a patch (or group of patches), and email the member list, when there's a decent chance that there's another upgrade in the immediate future? Two days apart isn't cool... a lot of people go to a lot of trouble to upgrade...
I really do understand that you're working hard to get bugs taken care of as quickly as possible, just seems like there should be an easier way to do this...

MrNase
Mon 5th Jul '04, 2:25am
lol

Let me quote what i said in the chat yesterday:



<nase_> OMG, just upgraded and now are 2 patched files available.
<nase_> 3.0.3 would suck, i don't want to upgrade again. :(
<nase_> hm, the next version is far away...

maggie
Mon 5th Jul '04, 2:29am
MrNase, does this mean we shouldn't pick you as our prognosticator? ;)

pank
Mon 5th Jul '04, 2:41am
Yes, I'm curious to know what

Altered conditional so that announcement dates span two columns rather than wrapping in the first column.

does exactly to. When updating my skins last night I wanted to test it but couldn't. Is this something to do with "reminders"?

bump???

pank
Mon 5th Jul '04, 2:42am
Not sure why I got a double post... Ignore this one.

Ryan Ashbrook
Mon 5th Jul '04, 2:48am
The vast majority of our customers won't have downloaded 3.0.2 yet, having been away for various weekend activities. I therefore made the decision to release 3.0.3 now so that the various fixes would reach our customers as soon as possible.

My apologies to those who have already upgraded to 3.0.2, but I'm thinking of the greater good here.
I'd have to agree with Kier here, I'd much rather have to upgrade twice in a week, then run a message board software with more bugs in it then it should have.

House_of_Crazed
Mon 5th Jul '04, 2:49am
Pank -

Be patient.

It's 10:45pm PST over here. And it's July 4th, majority of people are out celebrating July 4'th around here.

Kier -

*glares* Couldn't you have waited it out over a couple days? *laughs* I just got finished modifying 3.0.2... *sigh*

HoC

wential
Mon 5th Jul '04, 2:56am
So what exactly did 3.0.3 fix over 3.0.2?

Steve Machol
Mon 5th Jul '04, 2:59am
Read the announcement for what was changed and fixed.

Erwin
Mon 5th Jul '04, 3:15am
Egads...

I should have waited...

Guess I'm going to wait a few more days this time just in case 3.0.4 comes out too.

MegaHertz
Mon 5th Jul '04, 3:22am
Egads...

I should have waited...

Guess I'm going to wait a few more days this time just in case 3.0.4 comes out too.
Agreed ;) :D

Techguy1
Mon 5th Jul '04, 3:29am
i hear that...

IIstix
Mon 5th Jul '04, 3:44am
I'm doing a clean install this week and can hold off if we're going to see one or more immediate upgrades hot on the heels of 3.0.3.

What's the product roadmap look like for 3.0.4's release and beyond?

I don't want to have to go through an upgrade immediately after going through installing and configuring a new site.

Please advise.

Thanks!



The vast majority of our customers won't have downloaded 3.0.2 yet, having been away for various weekend activities. I therefore made the decision to release 3.0.3 now so that the various fixes would reach our customers as soon as possible.

My apologies to those who have already upgraded to 3.0.2, but I'm thinking of the greater good here.

Steve Machol
Mon 5th Jul '04, 3:52am
There are no plans to release 3.0.4 immediately, just as there were no plans to release 3.0.3 this soon. Sometimes stuff happens. :)

Erwin
Mon 5th Jul '04, 4:08am
I understand. :) I try to resist, but the urge to upgrade is always stronger than my patience to wait just in case... plus 3.0.2 had a security fix, hence the urgency. :) With 3.0.3, it should fix my email which is stuffed, so I do have to do it, but there is the option of replacing a couple of files only I supposed.

House_of_Crazed
Mon 5th Jul '04, 4:20am
I'm tempting too, *laughs*

*thinks about it*

HoC

Hooded One
Mon 5th Jul '04, 4:21am
A question about the thumbnails -- I upgraded to vB 3.0.2 with the original misc.php and rebuilt my thumbnails immediately afterward (with attachments stored in the filesystem). I had no problems during the process and all my thumnails appear to be working properly. Is there any reason I would have to rebuild them again after upgrading to 3.0.3? I would assume that I don't need to, but the "You must rebuild thumbnails" admonition is worded so that I thought I'd ask to be safe.

House_of_Crazed
Mon 5th Jul '04, 4:23am
Nope, according to Kier, you do not have to if you already rebuilt it in 3.0.2.

HoC

Thomas2485
Mon 5th Jul '04, 4:49am
Oh bah, I upgraded my four boards (all hacked) to 3.0.2 yesterday, and that took me six hours. Ah well, back to work... :(

House_of_Crazed
Mon 5th Jul '04, 4:55am
heh, I sort of cheated... :|

I ran a file comparison & checked for which files had more than 2 differences and checked those and modified what needed to be modified. LOL

*whistles*

HoC

adhari_com
Mon 5th Jul '04, 5:02am
Oh shoot !

Get it going Devs :)

minx
Mon 5th Jul '04, 5:03am
i only just 302'd :) i like the 303 version number though ;)

-M

Floris
Mon 5th Jul '04, 5:06am
I remember everybody complaining that it took so long for the next version. I think we caught up quite nicely now :p

It is just a matter of uploading the files and running upgrade.php - a matter of a minute.

scotty
Mon 5th Jul '04, 5:06am
It is just a matter of uploading the files and running upgrade.php - a matter of a minute.
shure - without hacks... :(

squall14716
Mon 5th Jul '04, 5:30am
Lucky me, I knew there was a reason I didn't complete the upgrade to 3.0.2 last night besides laziness.

Upgraded to 3.0.3 without any problems on a pretty hacked up board. :)

Brad.loo
Mon 5th Jul '04, 5:40am
Upgraded from 3.0.1 to 3.0.3 without any trouble :)

House_of_Crazed
Mon 5th Jul '04, 5:52am
Heh, all my files've (for 3.0.3)'ve been modified with the various code I added in not 24 hours ago in less than a hour.

Upgrade is complete, upload is in progress for the hacked files. *waits*

HoC

gorman
Mon 5th Jul '04, 5:56am
Still running 3.0.2 here. I noticed that no-cache headers were activated and I deactivated it.

But I still get this in my source:


<!-- no cache headers -->
<meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache" />
<meta http-equiv="Expires" content="-1" />
<meta http-equiv="Cache-Control" content="no-cache" />
<!-- end no cache headers -->

This even after an hard refresh (CTRL+F5).

scotty
Mon 5th Jul '04, 5:59am
Heh, all my files've (for 3.0.3)'ve been modified with the various code I added in not 24 hours ago in less than a hour.
do you use an code comparison tool? which one?

gorman
Mon 5th Jul '04, 6:09am
do you use an code comparison tool? which one?
I suggest Beyond Compare.

House_of_Crazed
Mon 5th Jul '04, 6:12am
I use Araxis Merge ...

I just downloaded Beyond Compare which I will test with the next upgrade.

I think I broke my navbar with this one, *laughs* no drop-downs, so not sure what's happening. Taking a glance at the code right now.

EDIT: Oh, and odd, lol, can't even get into the templates to edit, *laughs* I screwed up, didn't I?? *sigh*

HoC

Natch
Mon 5th Jul '04, 6:51am
If you r dropdowns are missing, then you have removed / disabled the javascript vbulletin_init at the bottom of your footer tempalte ...

If you r login inat working, you need to make sure you have no login files related to 3.0.1 - the login has changed dramatically since 3.0.1

gorman
Mon 5th Jul '04, 7:03am
Could somebody check if they are able to deactivate the no-cache headers?

SaN-DeeP
Mon 5th Jul '04, 7:18am
Could somebody check if they are able to deactivate the no-cache headers?
no-cache is disabled on my end too, but i still get the content posted by you above
:S

PixelFX
Mon 5th Jul '04, 7:19am
I'm happy I didn't go hack crazy last few days, thanks for the fast update though :) ..

*PixelFX Watches pank run through vb hq with a machine gun*

and just when you thought you had your styles updated .....

gorman
Mon 5th Jul '04, 7:20am
no-cache is disabled on my end too, but i still get the content posted by you above
:S
I seem to be getting it on home page only. Could you check that?

The funny thing is that I seem to be getting it on home page only whether I activate it or not.
Activated: no-cache headers on home page only
Deactivated: no-cache headers on home page only
:confused:

Erwin
Mon 5th Jul '04, 8:12am
It's because that HTML code is also in the forumhome template. Take it out if you want from the template.

Erwin
Mon 5th Jul '04, 8:14am
I upgraded a heavily hacked vB from 3.0.2 to 3.0.3 in 15 minutes. :)

It's all thanks to Kier posting a nice list of PHP files changed, and templates affected.

Everything working well - thanks! :D Well done.

PitchouneN64ngc
Mon 5th Jul '04, 8:35am
My apologies to those who have already upgraded to 3.0.2, but I'm thinking of the greater good here.
No problem ;)

Updating... And thanks for this release ;)

gorman
Mon 5th Jul '04, 8:55am
It's because that HTML code is also in the forumhome template. Take it out if you want from the template.Fine, but why does the setting seem not to affect anything, then? If I have it on it there are no-cache headers on home page only. If I have it off, exactly the same. Is this normal?

Getox
Mon 5th Jul '04, 10:20am
just come to see what was new after upgrading to 302 i see 303 and i was like oh what
Well ill upgrade when i have time..

SmasherMaster
Mon 5th Jul '04, 10:38am
I have 3.0.0 and now i'm gonna upgrade to 3.0.3 and there's a quick question I want to ask...Do I need to revert all the templates put in the announcements from 3.0.1 to 3.0.3?

Also...is it wise to just wipe my forums DIR clean and then reuplaod, as there's a ton of files that are never used and I would like it to be much tidier...But i'm concerned if I might lose something from the database and all. If I do this, will I have to reinstall vB as well? :(

cybermomcafe
Mon 5th Jul '04, 11:17am
upgrade went super easy! :)

Arkham
Mon 5th Jul '04, 11:42am
I became an Error at Step 6 of Upgradin from 3.0.1 to 3.0.2

XML Error: junk after document element in Zeile 9823

Many THX for supporting
You signature is trying to set an ad tracking cookie here. I don't think an ad signature is allowe here, is it?

Ocean
Mon 5th Jul '04, 11:53am
Wow guys...This is not cool. :rolleyes:




Agreed. Unfortunately, I forgot the lessons of the past when several releases of vBulletin were knocked out in a very short space of time. Based on those experiences, I would hold off upgrading again for awhile because we might see another release very soon. ;)


To both of you, as well as anyone else who has a problem with this - honestly, if you don't like it, just don't upgrade!

Just stay where you are at 3.0.2 - you will be in exactly the same position you would have been if they had never released 3.0.3.


Don't give the Devs flack because they released a new patched version. You're complaining as if it's a bad thing that they put it out - but the new release fixes bugs, so how can that be bad?


Sure, you might argue that the bugs should have been caught before 3.0.2 was released - but that fact is that they didn't. Once we reached that point, they made the very wise decision to release 3.0.3.


If you don't want it, don't install it. But please don't stand in the way of everyone else who does want those bug fixes.

pinfo
Mon 5th Jul '04, 11:58am
Could anyone with a file comparison tool tell me what was changed in SUBSCRIBE?

I had that edited prior to upgrade, and for the life of me, I cannot figure out what I edited on that file, there for if I revert it, I won't know what to change back to get my original edit...

If I know what was changed, I can just change that as well as keep my original edits.

Also, are there any files that should be deleted for security reasons after an upgrade? I know that after a new installation there are files that should be deleted, but is there anything that should be deleted after an upgrade? (instal and config were not uploaded, so anything besides that.)

Thanks.

pinfo
Mon 5th Jul '04, 12:15pm
Could somebody check if they are able to deactivate the no-cache headers?
What are the pros and cons of having that deactivated VS activated?

Mainer82
Mon 5th Jul '04, 12:24pm
To both of you, as well as anyone else who has a problem with this - honestly, if you don't like it, just don't upgrade!

Just stay where you are at 3.0.2 - you will be in exactly the same position you would have been if they had never released 3.0.3.


Don't give the Devs flack because they released a new patched version. You're complaining as if it's a bad thing that they put it out - but the new release fixes bugs, so how can that be bad?


Sure, you might argue that the bugs should have been caught before 3.0.2 was released - but that fact is that they didn't. Once we reached that point, they made the very wise decision to release 3.0.3.


If you don't want it, don't install it. But please don't stand in the way of everyone else who does want those bug fixes.
I agree, if you don't like the upgrades then don't upgrade. I for one, do not mind upgrading at all.

Deaconxgp
Mon 5th Jul '04, 12:41pm
in the functions_showthread.php there used to be a line like this


// ###################### Start getreputationimage #######################


what happened to it and what was it replaced with?

Joe Gronlund
Mon 5th Jul '04, 12:43pm
My problem is not with the usage after upgrading, It was with upgrading, I received Duplicate column name 'notes' DB errors, but was able to bypass them by changing step=4 to step=5 on upgrade13.php.

Other than that, everything seemed ok.. :confused:

Mystics
Mon 5th Jul '04, 12:43pm
in the functions_showthread.php there used to be a line like this


// ###################### Start getreputationimage #######################


what happened to it and what was it replaced with?It's in the new file functions_reputation.php.

Lurk
Mon 5th Jul '04, 12:57pm
:mad: this is a little too soon... oh well, i like to have things up to date :)

pank
Mon 5th Jul '04, 1:22pm
Pank -

Be patient.

It's 10:45pm PST over here. And it's July 4th, majority of people are out celebrating July 4'th around here.

Kier -

*glares* Couldn't you have waited it out over a couple days? *laughs* I just got finished modifying 3.0.2... *sigh*

HoC

Ummm. I am very patient. I just saw a lot of posts by staff after my post and still did not see an answer.

MJM
Mon 5th Jul '04, 1:50pm
I subscribed to this thread, and every time I visit these forums I get another email notification from this thread...even though I haven't visited this thread.

Is this correct that to `reactivate' a thread subscription, that visiting the site is all that is required, that it's not necessary to click on the subscribed thread first?

As this is the only `active' thread I am subscribed to, I noticed this here, so I write in here to see if this is normal or something different with vB3.0.3

This is something I will need to explain to my members.

Thanks,
Mark

Freddie Bingham
Mon 5th Jul '04, 1:55pm
I subscribed to this thread, and every time I visit these forums I get another email notification from this thread...even though I haven't visited this thread.

Is this correct that to `reactivate' a thread subscription, that visiting the site is all that is required, that it's not necessary to click on the subscribed thread first?

As this is the only `active' thread I am subscribed to, I noticed this here, so I write in here to see if this is normal or something different with vB3.0.3

This is something I will need to explain to my members.

Thanks,
Mark
Yes that is correct.

Marc Smith
Mon 5th Jul '04, 1:56pm
I suggest Beyond Compare. I'm on a Mac and use bbedit.

I compared the files and made neccessary changes for hacks to several. Tested on my Mac and upgrade went well. Files are uploaded to a 'holding' directory on my production server. Late tonight I'll shut the board down, back up the database, change the directory names of my running forum directory and the 'holding' directory, run the upgrade script and be back online within 10 minutes.

Luckily none of my custom templates are affected.


I upgraded a heavily hacked vB from 3.0.2 to 3.0.3 in 15 minutes. :)

It's all thanks to Kier posting a nice list of PHP files changed, and templates affected.

Everything working well - thanks! :D Well done. Did you re-upload all the php files or just the ones changed as noted in the announcement thread?

MJM
Mon 5th Jul '04, 2:53pm
Yes that is correct.
Thanks! Well I guess it's been this way all along.
As admin, set to receive all emails, I've been oblivious, and I usually revisit (vB) sites back through the link in the email notification.
It took a faster moving thread like this one to show it up (I visited this site 5 times in one day, and received 5 email notifications to the same thread, even though I hadn't opened them)

Here is a draft to my members...
Receiving email notifications from subscribed posts
If you subscribe to a thread you will receive an email notification with the next reply.
There may be other replies also, but you will not receive any more notifications until you visit the forum again.

Visiting the forums is all that is required to `reactivate' a thread subscription. (a subscribed thread that you have already received an email notification from).
Then if another message is posted to your subscribed threads, you will receive an email notification of the post.
Note:It is not necessary to go to each subscribed thread to reactivate email notification.

Mark

Daveh
Mon 5th Jul '04, 2:53pm
Upgraded from a slightly hacked forum (reordered sticky threads is the main one) using vB3.0.2 to vB3.0.3 in four minutes - three of which were backing up! :D

isaiah33
Mon 5th Jul '04, 2:58pm
I just upload vb 3.0.2 and i hacked it a lot and put many hrs into is there anyway i can just upload some files from 3.0.2 to fix the rest of the fixes

Oblivion Knight
Mon 5th Jul '04, 3:35pm
Hmm.. Think I'll wait a couple of weeks to see if 3.0.4 is released.!

Heh, just kidding - thanks to the devs for their continued work on a fine product.

wential
Mon 5th Jul '04, 3:43pm
The mail.php option is the best thing that ever happened to VB!!! Great work guys!

Tim Wheatley
Mon 5th Jul '04, 3:44pm
Oh man. :( :( :( :( :(

*sigh* I spent 20 hours (almost solid) from midnight saturday night to sunday night editing my board, and was going to continue tonight now I'm back from 'real work'... damn it... :(

functions.php carries loads of hacks...

I guess I can go download beyond compare and hack the update into my functions.php though... Ick...

Bryan Ex
Mon 5th Jul '04, 4:32pm
When a bug is identified, confirmed, and ultimately repaired is the fix specific to that bug not posted anywhere? I look at the bug tracker and all it indicates is "fixed". That's great... but how? A full upgrade of a heavily modified board seems like a lot of effort just to obtain a single fix you might be after.

Tim Wheatley
Mon 5th Jul '04, 5:01pm
Upgraded... I suggest Beyond Compare... :)

adhari_com
Mon 5th Jul '04, 5:05pm
Smoothly upgraded to 303 with vBadvanced and v3Arcade and couple of minor hacks, took me an hour tho ;)

pretty well structured new coding, I used the GPL WinMerge ..
http://winmerge.sourceforge.net/

I guess it's the best free tool.

My Regards,,

Mainer82
Mon 5th Jul '04, 5:08pm
I don't use any software to upgrade. I don't trust it.

Electronic Punk
Mon 5th Jul '04, 5:41pm
Just when you thought it was safe to think you have completely upgraded :)

Wayne Luke
Mon 5th Jul '04, 5:44pm
I don't use any software to upgrade. I don't trust it.
All software like Beyond Compare does is compares two files and highlights the changes made and tells you whether it is a new line, missing line, or edited line. You have to actually make the changes yourself.

Wayne Luke
Mon 5th Jul '04, 5:46pm
When a bug is identified, confirmed, and ultimately repaired is the fix specific to that bug not posted anywhere? I look at the bug tracker and all it indicates is "fixed". That's great... but how? A full upgrade of a heavily modified board seems like a lot of effort just to obtain a single fix you might be after.
If the developers think the bug is worth posting, it will usually be in the bug report itself. If the bug is critical, the patched file is posted in the announcements forum. Otherwise it is included in an interim bug release.

ProgScan
Mon 5th Jul '04, 6:23pm
I see a hacked version of 3.0.3 has already dropped. :(

cirisme
Mon 5th Jul '04, 6:30pm
Upgrade the other day to 3.0.2, and now today 3.0.3. Glad I had a day off today. ;)

Good work team.

slix
Mon 5th Jul '04, 7:47pm
I upgraded to 3.0.1 the other day. Then when 3.0.2 was released, I just replaced the wiziwyg file thingy rather than doing a complete update.

So does 3.0.3 mainly address bugs in 3.0.2 or in all releases to date? In other words, what will I gain now by updating from 3.0.1 to 3.0.3?


--------- Updates can really be a pain in the ar*e! :mad:

Trigunflame
Mon 5th Jul '04, 8:47pm
Jesus christ, what did you devs do.

http://narutotalk.com/
http://narutotalk.com/login.php

My entire forum is screwed, just by uploading the files themselves.

House_of_Crazed
Mon 5th Jul '04, 8:52pm
Trigunflame - You'll need to be more specific than that, LOL

slix - I know. The file comparison failed on me yesterday, so I had to reinstall ALL hacks which works fine now. *mutters* I need to learn something called patience.

HoC

Trigunflame
Mon 5th Jul '04, 8:56pm
Ok its fine now oO, reuploaded the files again and it cleared the situation, been with Vbb along time and never seen something that crazy. Lol