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steven
Sun 11th Jun '00, 6:23am
I am in need of a cheap web host that supports this php/mysql format. I was just wondering if any of you have heard of this company, and are they good/reliable. I'm just starting out a web site, and truthfully I don't where to begin. So I thought a good web host would be a good start. Thanks for all the help in advance.
Steven
Freddie Bingham
Sun 11th Jun '00, 7:02am
A good company that is rather cheap is
http://www.your-site.com
For $5 a month (if you pay for one year, else it is $7 a month)
You can buy each thing you need for your site on a per item basis. They host my website in my sig.
steven
Sun 11th Jun '00, 7:39am
Thanks for the reply rangersfan, I was just wondering how long the installation of your forums took, and was it relatively easy or not? Do you have any programming experience, or did you have a web designer help you out. Sorry for all the questions, but I like to know what I'm getting myself into. Thanks again!!!
Freddie Bingham
Sun 11th Jun '00, 8:35am
It only took me about a day to get everything set up but I do have alot of unix experience but with vbulletin, the setup script will do everything for you. It is not very difficult so don't be afraid as you can ask about any problems you have on here.
werehere
Sun 11th Jun '00, 8:39am
If everything is set up properly, it *should* be really easy.
steven
Sun 11th Jun '00, 9:47am
So if i go with this web hosting company, which supports the php/mysql formats, then I should be okay right?
Here is the info. on their site
For $9.95 a month, you get the following:
http://www.yourname.com domain hosting(for those who have a
registered domain name - see note) yourname.phpwebhosting.com hosting(for those without a
domain name)
unlimited subdomains (yourchoice.yourname.com)
Un-metered disk space
Un-metered Transfer
Flexible DNS settings for alternate MX record(to use webmail
systems, etc.)
Wildcard DNS settings (*.yourname.com)
Full .htaccess usage(which includes...)
...Password Protected Directories
...Custom 404 Error pages
...and more
Telnet Access 24 hours a day
SSH Access 24 hours a day
FTP Access 24 hours a day
Access to Pine email program
(note: we do not offer newsgroup access)
It's finally here! Un-metered pop3 mailboxes!
unlimited name@yourdomain.com email aliases
unlimited email forwards
unlimited mailing lists
unlimited auto-responders
1 MySQL Database
Additional MySQL databases as needed(no extra charge)
Use of php4 (compiled into apache as a module)
Use of SSI(server side includes)
Your own CGI-BIN directory and ability to run your own scripts
Use of Perl programming language
Use of all standard Unix utilities
Access to raw access_log(combined format - includes referrer
field)
Access to raw error_log
Analog Stats Log file analysis
Webalizer log file analysis
Access to web-based control panel
Use of SSL(with our certificate or yours)
If you have more questions or need more specific information, please
contact us
To sign up, click here. Remember: we offer a full 30-day, 100%
money-back guarantee. You have nothing to lose by giving us a try!
Important Note:
Your $9.95 a month includes hosting of http://www.yourname.com. It does
not include the actual registration of the name. This is a separate
process and unfortunately involves separate fees(none of which are
paid to our company).
For most domains(.com, .net, .org) registration costs $35 per year.
For new registrations, the first two years must be paid for in
advance. We have partnered with register.com to offer our clients
domain registration.
If you need more information about the domain name registration
process, click here.
To transfer your existing domain to our servers, a transfer request
will need to be made with Internic. We can make this request for
you. If you would like to make the request yourself, here is the
relevant information:
Freddie Bingham
Sun 11th Jun '00, 10:00am
Unlimited transfer AND disk space for only $9.95 a month? I would be very wary of such an offer as it seems to good to be true and you know what that means. Research them on dejanews.com before comitting. Also you can register domain names for $20 and less. Domainmonger.com does it for $17 and others do it for less.
Freddie Bingham
Sun 11th Jun '00, 10:20am
Oh here is the catch
Q. You say that diskspace and transfer are unmetered, but is there any limit to the amount I can use?
A. Though we do not have any pre-set limits, you will not be allowed to consistently use more then a couple of hundred MB of diskspace and/or over two GB of bandwidth/month. If you use more than this only occasionally, then that is fine.
They define unlimted transfer as occasionally being able to exceed 2 gigs a month? I would stay far away from this outfit.
Q. What kind of servers do you have?
A. We have Pentium 400+ servers that run Redhat Linux 6.1. Depending on the current market, servers will be faster then Pentium 400's. But we do guarantee at least a P400 server.
OUCH these are going to be shared pentium 400's.
Q. You say "un-metered" POP3 accounts. How many can I really have?
A. A general limit would be 10 or 15. The main limits are that you can not for instance set up a service where anybody on the net can get a free POP3 through you, etc. The goal of the un-metered POP3's is to allow you to set up however many are needed for your company, group, etc. Like most of our other offerings, we do not want to place any hard limits on the number of POP3's that you may create. However we do ask that you keep your demands with-in reason. Also keep in mind the number of messages that each account will be receiving each day. For example, 50 POP3's that only receive a few messages a day would be acceptable while 50 POP3's that each receive hundreds of messages a day would not.
Un-Metered Pop3 all of a sudden becomes 10-15? This company has serious issues and I advise you to avoid them. They can't even put in stone what you can or can't do. They also do not have a phone number where you can actually call them on the phone.
[Edited by rangersfan on 06-11-2000 at 10:54 PM]
steven
Sun 11th Jun '00, 10:42am
Rangersfan-
Thank you very much for all of your help, I really appreciate it. I was 10 min away from setting up shop with them. So you recommend http://www.your-site.com. Is there any other php web hosts that are comparable, and if so who are they? Once again thank you very much.
Steven
Freddie Bingham
Sun 11th Jun '00, 10:49am
Well if you pay monthly and get 1 mysql database the charge will be about $11 a month at your-site. You get 6 gigs transfer a month and 50 megs space. The MySQL databse usage does not count against your 50 megs of web space. There is a $20 setup fee but they register your domain for free and it is only $10 to re-new it each year. I recommend them to anybody starting out since you don't know what you will need in the future when it comes to transfer and disk space. If you get to the size of were-here.com or martin's forums then you probably want to move to a dedicated server anyway.
WildWayz
Sun 11th Jun '00, 2:45pm
Hi ya
I was had by a few webhosts recently. Vikmar.com I had problems with, and they offered me my own dedicated server for no extra cost. BUT in the two weeks I have had it, they have not set it up to a running standard, so I am ditching them.
Pagecreators.net - well, their servers often fall over, and they NEVER reply to my tech support questions. To top it off, when I try to fax them my cancellation, their answerphone doesn't kick in.
I am currently with http://www.wantsomegetsom.net - They are speedy, fast and I have had NO problems with them. They only offer a shared MySQL server, but that is ok - just have to make the database names different from the others ;)
http://www.moose-shack.org.uk and http://www.satriani.org.uk are hosted on them :)
--James
(Oh, and once u have the MySQL database name and password, then installing vBulletin takes no time at all)
Martin
Sun 11th Jun '00, 3:38pm
if you haven't already decided, try a search at http://hostsearch.com
they have a pretty comprehensive database of hosting services out there and they allow people to rate their experinces with them.
You can search for hosts that offer specific features, prices, etc...
steven
Mon 12th Jun '00, 1:43am
Martin-
Thanks for the link. Just wondering if people have heard of tera-byte web hosting, and if so do they have good support,etc. And if I wanted Vbulletin to install the program on my server how long would that take after you received payment?
Steven
WildWayz
Mon 12th Jun '00, 2:06am
well, for me I signed up, then a few moments later I got 2 emails - one an invoice, the other the access details to the members area.
From there, I was new to PHP and had MySQL not setup etc. As soon as I grasped what I was doing (with help from on here) and my MySQL database was created, it was litterally a case of uploading the files, editing config.php, then running
http://www.domain.com/<vbulletin dir>/admin/install.php
Then... it is just click the next links, enter some details ie your name etc and et voila - bing bang bong works.
--James
Shaman
Mon 12th Jun '00, 2:09am
Our company does the hosting of PHP and MySQL apps. However, cheap doesn't really enter into it. We do about $30 per month (Canadian) and that allows 5MB space and 1GB of transfer.
But... really, that's huge if you do the setup right. And speed isn't a problem.
Whenever you buy cheap you also buy slow, it seems. ;)
WildWayz
Mon 12th Jun '00, 2:14am
I can't believe u plugged your own service!
And 5MB space with 1GB transfer limit??
OMG
Please tell me you are taking the pish (I think swearing is dissallowed here ;) )
http://www.wantsomegetsome.net do it for about $17US a month, and they are fast, stable and very good.
I have two domains hosted there.
Oh, and that's unlimited space/transfer etc.
Yes, there are two options, one with a 15gb transfer limite etc.
--James
Shaman
Mon 12th Jun '00, 3:08am
Well hey. I honestly can't do anything but lose money on those types of accounts, so I'm not after them.
Your milage may vary. :)
Martin
Mon 12th Jun '00, 3:31am
those prices are a little steep Shaman, especially if youre wanting to host a forum.
my forum, mid-sized at best, uses about 2Gb/day in tranfer and a 30 day prune on my DB is about 250 Mb. I would shudder to think what you might charge me or anyone else with an established forum. I'm glad I have my own server.
I have an account with Dreamhost where I get 160 Mb and 44 Gb/transfer for about $70/month. Dreamhost is nothing if not fast and reliable and the tech support is the same.
WildWayz
Mon 12th Jun '00, 4:11am
call me dense, but free web hosts offer better deals than that.
Now, if it was 50-100mb then it would be feasible.
Anyway, each to their own :)
--WildWayz
Shaman
Mon 12th Jun '00, 4:45am
Like it or not, I can't buy bandwidth that cheap, and I have an OC-3 line. I have no idea how they're doing it, so I leave it to those hosting companies that can.
That's just the fact.
steven
Mon 12th Jun '00, 2:57pm
Alright I have narrowed it down to two hosts, but after reading numerous posts about which web host is better, I still cannot decide. I m leaning toward tera-byte because I think they offer more bang for the buck, so if anyone has any sort of feedback about this company, please respond!! The other company is your-site.com
wayne
Tue 13th Jun '00, 7:40am
Originally posted by Martin
I have an account with Dreamhost where I get 160 Mb and 44 Gb/transfer for about $70/month. Dreamhost is nothing if not fast and reliable and the tech support is the same.
Are you serious? That's an awesome bargain! I crossed them off my list after reading their terms and conditions. Do they not enforce it something?
The term "unmonitored bandwidth" on some of the plans means that within reason, users will not be charged for bandwidth use with that plan. Within reason extends to a total use per month of 2GB..
I'm currently at pair (http://www.pair.com) who I'm happy with but I'm running up against their bandwidth limits.
Martin
Wed 14th Jun '00, 3:09am
Wayne, we have about 5 domains there and we have resold about 15 accounts, so I'm sure they cut us a lot of slack. We have had almost 1 Gb stored there and they never flinched.
They really are a great host and they will not strictly and rigidly enforce their bandwidth limits. They didn't really say anything to us at all until we started using about 1.5 Gb/day at one of our domains.
If you are thinking about them, please put "wanders" as your refferer? We could use all the help we can get :)
wayne
Wed 14th Jun '00, 5:20am
I sent DreamHost sales an email (incredibly friendly and fast reply!):
The bandwidth charges come to $15/GB, though if and when you are up to 50-100 GB per month we'll be able to give you a discounted rate.
30 gigs/month * $15/gig = $450/month
They may not enforce it like you say, Martin, but I don't want to chance it. Moving sites is a pain and I'd feel more comfortable with something in writing.
I'm probably doomed to going dedicated, which actually shouldn't be that bad. I was going to go with Interland until I stumbled upon the pages and pages (and pages) of people complaining about them. DigitalNation (http://www.dn.net) and Rackspace (http://www.rackspace.com) both looks great though and I'm thinking about going with one of them.
Has anyone heard anything about Alpha Network (http://www.alphanetwork.com) or tried one of those Cobalt things? They give 50 gigs/month for $200 on a RaQ2 w/16Meg 4.3HD.
In any case, thanks for the recommendation, Martin.
steven
Sun 18th Jun '00, 3:30pm
Thanks guys for all replies!!! I went with tera-byte, as they offer the most bang for the buck. I got a great package for less than $10/month, and I installed the trial version of this board successfully. I can't wait to install the new version as I just bought it, unfortunately it won't let me access the members area, cause the link is down.
ey143
Mon 26th Jun '00, 5:07am
SOrry folks, I dont know if I missed the boat here to tell you lot.
I joined with http://www.jumpline.com a few weeks ago for my small company business, and they have MySQL, just so fortunate as I am now thinking of buying vB and using it on there.
As for whether the 50 megs are included in their MySQL I dont know. But I pay $14.95 a month and get a whole host of features, including unlimited pop accounts, auto responders and more.
check em out and let me know what you think.
ey143
Mon 26th Jun '00, 5:40am
You might also want to check out this one for $30 a month, u get 400 megs disc space and 10 gig transfer.
http://www.findahost.com/details.cfm?PlanID=1455
[Edited by ey143 on 06-26-2000 at 05:41 PM]
Mafukie
Mon 26th Jun '00, 3:52pm
*jumps in*
http://www.site5.com = awsome!
bye
php3hosting
Sat 1st Jul '00, 2:55pm
Hi
We offer PHP/MySQL hosting. We allow each user to have their own instance of MySQL meaning they get root access to their databases.
http://www.php3hosting.com/
Hosting starts from under $5 per month and includes MySQL/PHP without any set-up fees
Regards
Darren
ey143
Sat 1st Jul '00, 7:49pm
I still think jumpline offers more features and pricewise that are better too.
I mean, 10 megs is really not enough, and neither is 250 meg bandwidth for that price. A simple BB like this will eat into that price fairly quickly.
php3hosting
Sun 2nd Jul '00, 3:59am
You would be surprised. We have about 500 customers that have the smallest account.
We have never billed anyone any extra for bandwidth or disk space.
The smallest account is aimed at developers then next one up would take most sites without a problem. Winmysql.com is hosting with us and they are happy.
You only have to ask some of our customers, most of our existing customers have recommended us to friends and they have joined or have ended up moving other hosting across. It speaks for itself.
Darren
Philipp
Sun 2nd Jul '00, 9:21am
I signed up last week an account at http://www.tera-byte.com
They offer on Plan 4:
99MB diskspace, 20GB Transfer/month, 99 POP3 Accounts, CGI/PHP/ASP/MySQL/Access, Frontpage extensions, Control Panel, Raw log files etc. for only $9.25/month.
Even the tech support is fast. I send yesterday a support ticket to the provider and received 25 minutes later an answer.
php3hosting
Sun 2nd Jul '00, 9:25am
Thats good and fast, there is nothing worse then sending a support e-mail only to be answered a week later
Darren
http://www.php3hosting.com/
Comtech
Fri 17th Dec '04, 5:42pm
Register domain names for $20 and less?? $17 is expensive!
But I do remember the old days when I first registered around 3 domain names, at 70 bucks for 2 years, per domain... now you can get those 2 years for around 16 bucks.
Do not buy a domain name for any more than $9 per year... anything more is rediculaous.
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